User talk:Jcday

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Image question
Hi, I notice that on 8 June 2008 you uploaded this image of Roman brooches found in Mellor, Greater Manchester. You claim that the copyright is yours and you release it into the public domain. However, I notice that the exact same image is on page 61 of. Are you certain the image was taken by you? Forgive my scepticism, but Dr John Day does not appear to be credited in the book. Nev1 (talk) 18:13, 12 May 2009 (UTC)


 * You also uploaded a photo of a pot that you claimed was the Mellor pot (File:Mellorpot.jpg). It is in fact from Shaw Cairn in Mellor. I've deleted the file on here and have uploaded it to commons with the correct description and a more appropriate name. Nev1 (talk) 00:52, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

File source problem with File:Mellor.jpg
Thank you for uploading File:Mellor.jpg. I noticed that the file's description page currently doesn't specify who created the content, so the copyright status is unclear. If you did not create this file yourself, you will need to specify the owner of the copyright. If you obtained it from a website, please add a link to the website from which it was taken, together with a brief restatement of that website's terms of use of its content. However, if the copyright holder is a party unaffiliated from the website's publisher, that copyright should also be acknowledged.

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Sadly I didn't notice this in time. The part that bugs me about this deletion is that I was the photographer for the Mellor photo and I'm damn sure it had been tagged correctly at the time of uploading. However, it's always possible that I missed something that needed doing and I'll chalk it up to that.

Regardless, I'm continuing my self-imposed moratorium on contributing, as this is the second claim against something I'd uploaded. I have no desire to have that as a reputation. Those articles I'd written (particularly the Mellor archaeological page) were popular with the academics I'd checked it against but it got replaced with something I'm not convinced is as accurate but which is much more popular with Wikipedians and far more compliant with the intended standards.

This isn't any criticism of Wikipedia, or indeed of my writing, but rather to say that there is a mismatch that I have not been able to resolve. Which is infuriating, as Wikipedia is a superb idea (I'd been wanting a "collaborative textbook" for close to a decade prior to Wikipedia's founding) and I am furious (mostly with myself) that I cannot be an effective or useful contributor as things stand. The best I've been able to do is perform CPR on topics that interest me but few others so that the topics don't die of viewer starvation until the medics arrive.

Jcday (talk) 22:22, 18 March 2011 (UTC)

File permission problem with File:MellorCelticHead.jpg
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File permission problem with File:MellorFlintDagger.jpg
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File permission problem with File:MellorReplicaRoundhouse.jpg
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Possibly unfree File:MellorReplicaRoundhouse.jpg
A file that you uploaded or altered, File:MellorReplicaRoundhouse.jpg, has been listed at Possibly unfree files because its copyright status is unclear or disputed. If the file's copyright status cannot be verified, it may be deleted. You may find more information on the file description page. You are welcome to add comments to its entry at if you object to the listing for any reason. Thank you. Kelly hi! 16:50, 23 October 2014 (UTC)

Possibly unfree File:MellorFlintDagger.jpg
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Further information request File:MellorCelticHead.jpg.
Do you have any more information about the subject of this image? You state what it is the subject of academic debate, Are there any published papers that could be cited? ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 13:05, 8 July 2018 (UTC)

The owner of the house is a family friend, as are several of the local antiquarians (although they hate being called that). What I know is this.

It was originally located in about 1950 in Mill Brow at a location marked on maps as an ancient well. In fact, just across the road from where it is now. The stone was recovered and incorporated into the house. According to the owners, it has been examined by archaeologists from the University of Manchester who have verified it is genuine. This is where it gets somewhat contentious. The archaeologists there aren't terribly good at publishing, for one thing, so nothing official and peer-reviewed seems to exist. For another, Celtic heads are extremely rare outside of Yorkshire.

Local antiquarian Ann Hearle was able to prove the existence of an iron age settlement in the area in 1998. Previously, it had been assumed no such settlement existed in the area, which had added to the problems of the head. It is theorized that the settlement found is Brigante mostly on the strength of the head, as they were the ones primarily interested in depicting that in isolation. There are problems with that, not least the fact that Mellor is a Celtic word from a different tribe in the opposite direction.

I am trying to pester one of the archaeologists involved in Mellor to publish something official on the head, but until then all I can say is that it's easier herding kittens and that all I can find - published or verbal - are allegations. Nobody is willing to commit. Jcday (talk) 21:12, 10 July 2018 (UTC)

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