User talk:Jeanne boleyn/Archive 6

You have to see this!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QAsUfWvIiXY LOL. -- Jack1755 (talk) 22:58, 12 March 2010 (UTC)

Dave Snowden
Hiya Jeanne!

I notice that you reverted my recent edits to the Dave Snowden article. The language you reinstated indicates that Snowden "returned" to Wales at the age of three. Do we have any verification that he lived there previously? Based on the talk page comment that seems to be our only source for all of this it seems clear that while his parents "returned" to Wales, Dave Snowden himself was moving there for the first time. He subsequently returned to England, where he was born and previously lived, to attend university. Irvine22 (talk) 16:24, 16 March 2010 (UTC)

Irish history articles
Hi Jeanne. There is a discussion going on here on the History of Ireland talk page about the best way to organise or re-organise Irish history articles. It's largely centered on medieval history, so I thought you might like to get involved. Scolaire (talk) 07:32, 17 March 2010 (UTC)

P.S. I haven't forgotten my Geraldines project. If this discussion turns into a major article improvement drive, it might be just the spur I need. Scolaire (talk) 07:32, 17 March 2010 (UTC)

French versus Canadien
The two are not the same. From the middle of the 17th century, Canadiens had already become very different to Frenchmen. Even during the seven years war, the Canadien Governor Vaudreuil did not get along with the French General Montcalm, who did not like Canadiens, and who often did not want to use them in battle. Then came the French revolution, and they became very different, more different than a German versus a Frenchman. The language also changed, because the Revolutionary guards did not want to continue speaking the language of the beheaded King and Marie Antoinette. To this day, Canadiens and Frenchmen do not like each other that much. As for your statement that Canadiens came from Normandy and Brittany but they are still French, that is not correct. Britans are celtic people that came to Brittany when the Anglo-Saxons invaded the British isles. They have the same descendants as the Welch. Only in 1532 did they become part of France. France in those days was a Kingdom and the people there considered themselves to be Bretons or Normans or Picards, etc. Normans came from Norway and Denmark as Northmen or Vikings, and settled in northern France, Normandy. It was only after the French revolution that France became a republic and the French identity came into play. So, to say Canadiens are the same as Frenchmen is incorrect. The Canadiens that immigrated to the United States between 1860 and 1930, are very different then the Frenchmen that immigrated as French Huguenots or as Frenchmen during or after the French Revolution. More than one million Canadiens immigrated to the United States from Canada versus only about 250,000 during the same period from France. It's if you were saying all Americans came from England because they are English speaking. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.169.118.147 (talk) 03:45, 22 March 2010 (UTC)
 * I think a lot of French people would strongly disagree with you that there was no French identity until after the Revolution!!!!!! Have you a source that backs up that statement? If Bretons and Normans are not the real French, who are? Gauls? But they are also a Celtic people. Franks? Parisians? Provençals? Picards? Burgundians? Gascons? Poitevans? Angevins? When my French ancestors immigrated to the New World they were known as French, not Normans, Picards, Poitevans, Parisians, etc.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 06:39, 22 March 2010 (UTC)

The other problem that exists dear Jeanne, which use to be my Grandmother's name by the way, is the fact that the Canadians and Acadians who remained in America after the Seven year's war. (called French and Indian war in the US), felt abandoned by the mother country. It's like a husband who abandons you and who preferred another woman but you. Let me make it clearer. When the Seven years war broke out for the Ohio valley, at first, the Canadiens or French Canadians were successful against the Virginians, who started this war for the Ohio Valley. (George Washington killed 31 Canadiens when they were sleeping during the early morning hours. See Jumonville affair) Okay, the first 3 years, Canadiens were successful in defending their territory against the Virginians. But in 1757, William Pitt became Prime-Minister of England and sent 60,000 soldiers to defeat the Canadiens. France sent only 6,000. At the Treaty of Paris in 1763, the British, realizing their mistake, (No Canada meant that the 13 British colonies no longer needed the British to defend them) offered Canada back to France in exchange for Martinique and Guadeloupe. The French chose the later, thus abandoning Canadiens and Acadians altogether. Twenty years later, they helped the 13 British colonies gain their independence by sending 46,000 men, the entire French fleet, a gift of the first US war ship, the Bonhomme Richard, and an accumulated debt of 26 million dollars, which indebted France and led to the French Revolution. During the same time, Canadiens in Louisiana, since it was Canadiens Pierre Lemoyne d'Iberville and his brother Lemoyne de Bienville who founded Louisiana, demanded independence for Louisiana from Spain. France, after 10 months of negociations, refused to recognise a free Louisiana. (Wow, the husband who doesn't care about his own children!)  Later because of US independence, Canada would lose the 5 midwestern states, Ohio, Indiana, Michigan, Illinois, Wisconsin, and half of Minnesota. To make matters worst, Napoleon would wrest Louisiana from Spain, and sell it along with New Orleans, for a mere 5 million dollars, without ever asking a vote by the French government, since he knew they would have refused. The territory of the United States more than doubled, and the rest is history. So you see dear Jeanne, there is reason for the animosity! Have a nice day!--142.169.118.147 (talk) 13:20, 23 March 2010 (UTC)

Did you know...
...that in June 2009 an article in Bergensavisen was illustrated with a photo by Jeanne Boleyn ? Finn Rindahl (talk) 20:38, 23 March 2010 (UTC)
 * I was not aware of that. Thank you Finn for drawing my attention to it. I took that photo on a trip to Omagh back in 2001.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 07:28, 24 March 2010 (UTC)

The horror!
Jeanne, if you had left that image on GoodDays talk page he would have had a heart attack! I know I nearly did. Jack forbes (talk) 11:44, 22 March 2010 (UTC)
 * LOL. I didn't mean to put it there; I was trying to link the hideous thing. I almost died when that full-size image materialised on his talk page. Just as well my server didn't fail as I was deleting it!!!!!--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 12:16, 22 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Just as well! I was laughing out loud at the thought of GoodDay logging on and seeing that on his talk page. Jack forbes (talk) 12:21, 22 March 2010 (UTC)
 * LOL LOL LOL. Have you seen that guy's other photos?!!!!! As I was deleting, I was hoping the server wouldn't disappear. If you had seen how much that image dominated GoodDay's page! It was hilarious, but I wasn't going to let it stay there. I had been trying to link the image for him, but I accidentally uploaded it to his page.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 12:27, 22 March 2010 (UTC)
 * I was actually logged on at the time you posted it. I thought to myself, what the heck is Jeanne doing! Has she gone mad! It was funny though. Gave me a good laugh anyway. :) Jack forbes (talk) 12:31, 22 March 2010 (UTC)
 * He also has a photo called File:Smoothy.jpg I notice it's a candidate being considered for Commons. You can find it at the bottom of this article.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 12:34, 22 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Hi Jeanne. First, what is the "that image" to which Jack refers? Second, regarding the pic at the bottom of the article, which did you mean (see thumbs)?  If the latter, I am far too polite to comment, let alone ask! Thirdly, Apocalypse Now – a great movie (at least, for the first two hours) but IMO a poor interpretation of Heart of Darkness (which, so legend has it, Brando refused to read). Andy F (talk) 14:08, 22 March 2010 (UTC)
 * You would have to check the history on GoodDays talk page. The image took up most of the page. I've never read Heart of Darkness so I can't compare the book with the film. I saw the film when it first came out and thought it was great. Just a shame about Brando's shambolic performance at the end of the movie. I seem to remember he got paid a million dollars. Money not well spent I'm afraid. Jack forbes (talk) 14:29, 22 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Jack, that's what I meant by Brando having not read the novella (despite Coppola insisting he should do so). The film is good-verging-on-great up to the point when Sheen's character (Willard) arrives at Brando's (Kurtz's) encampment – from then on it disintegrates IMO (except, perhaps, for Hopper's performance as the photographer and Kurtz acolyte). Andy F (talk) 14:47, 22 March 2010 (UTC)
 * BTW, was it the image "Exhibitionboy.jpg" you guys meant? Andy F (talk) 14:52, 22 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Could be, Andy, could be. Suffice to say I won't be double checking it. Jack forbes (talk) 15:00, 22 March 2010 (UTC)
 * A wise decision, Jack :-) Andy F (talk) 15:27, 22 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes Andy, that's the photo I am referring to. It's been years since I had such a good laugh. Does this bloke think he's sexy? He's obviously on a Rod Stewart fantasy.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 16:11, 22 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Jeanne, if he thinks that then he is sadly deluded! Y'know, I bet that guy doesn't have hordes of panting women beating down his door. At least Rod has a voice, chutzpah and spiky hair. Andy F (talk) 17:00, 22 March 2010 (UTC)
 * If Rod's tackle were in any way like this guy's, the news would already have been spread along the groupie grapevine as in the case of Marilyn Manson and Midge Ure.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 17:04, 22 March 2010 (UTC)

<< Outdent <<   Hey! What inside info have you got on Mssrs Manson and Ure, Jeanne? Not first-hand info, we hope!!! :-) Andy F (talk) 17:19, 22 March 2010 (UTC)
 * The word has long been out on the groupie grapevine about both of them. Believe me, I've no firsthand info!--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 17:34, 22 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Hygiene! Sarah777 (talk) 21:43, 22 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Sorry. Been at a receptiony thingmebob and am a bit giddy. Breaking my cardinal rule here. You look so young! Sarah777 (talk) 21:46, 22 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Ah Sarah, welcome to WikiBlitz! What will you have to drink? Our resident bartender, Jack forbes makes divine cocktails.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 15:48, 23 March 2010 (UTC)
 * It would be the hair of the dog you would be looking for, Sarah. I suggest two quick shorts to get you up and running again. I don't drink myself but do know what works for others. ;) Jack forbes (talk) 16:56, 24 March 2010 (UTC)

Parenthood
Have a look at this, Jeanne. Nothing to do with wiki, but thought I'd show you it anyway. This guy is a father and a half. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJMbk9dtpdY Jack forbes (talk) 11:47, 25 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Thank you for sending me this, Jack. There is hope for the world after all.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 11:39, 25 March 2010 (UTC)

'Conversions' at History of Ireland
Regarding this revert, I suppose its a subjective issue as to what constitutes 'success'. There can be little doubt that there were significant conversions to Protestantism, most controversially during the Great Famine (Ireland). (See Souperism). Best. RashersTierney (talk) 11:42, 27 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes, but up to this day, and outside the Province of Ulster, Catholicism remained the dominant religion in Ireland.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 13:40, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

Yardbirds
The answer to the question "Who was the better Yardbirds guitarist? Jeff Beck or Jimmy Page?" is very simple to answer. It was Eric Clapton. Andy F (talk) 13:09, 28 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Ahhhh, I had forgotten about Clapton having played with them. Now, don't jump on me after reading this, but can I be allowed to offer the opinion that Eric Clapton is just slightly overrated? I personally prefer Beck out of the lot; he plays with a steady, streamlined, understated style without the frills of Clapton and flamboyance of Page. I've always liked Jeff Beck, even if he is considered a bit taciturn and moody.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 13:21, 28 March 2010 (UTC)
 * AFAIK Beck had a bit of a temper rather than being moody. Page was quite shy. (I've answered on my talk page too BTW) Andy F (talk) 13:28, 28 March 2010 (UTC)

Elvis
How is "musician" separate from "singer"? Or is it because he played guitar? Pardon my ignorance on the matter. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 17:33, 27 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Because a musician normally plays a musical instrument; he or she doesn't neccessarily accompany his playing with singing. There are many musicians who aren't singers; guitarists Ritchie Blackmore and Jimmy Page immediately spring to mind.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 17:37, 27 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Aha. I checked Phil Collins and noticed that instead of the generic "musician" it lists the instruments he plays. I wonder if that would make things clearer? Musician to me implies Elvis could be a composer, which he wasn't as far as I know. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 17:40, 27 March 2010 (UTC)
 * To be frank, I was shocked when I came upon Elvis' article and I didn't see him listed as a singer! That should be the first designation for him.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 17:42, 27 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Baseball Bugs, why not start a discussion on Elvis' talk page and see what others think about removing the musician designation altogether and instead just listing the instruments he played? Elvis was better known as a singer and actor; IMO, musician seems superfluous. And no, I don't believe Elvis ever wrote or composed any of his songs.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 17:46, 27 March 2010 (UTC)
 * ...although he was credited on one or two. Ghmyrtle (talk) 07:41, 30 March 2010 (UTC)

Musicians
Hi Jeanne: In general terms, singers consider themselves to be musicians, the OED notwithstanding. This is OR after over 20 years' involvement in music events. (Musicians are singers or instrumentalists or both. You have a chorus and soloists and an orchestra, or singers and a band, or a group, and all are musicians.) I'll see if I can find you reference more authoritative than my personal experiences. Bielle (talk) 21:57, 28 March 2010 (UTC)
 * And the first thing I find as I start looking is BMI's magazine Musician and Singer. I still think singers are musicians and would insist on being so designated but . . . Oh well. Bielle (talk) 22:03, 28 March 2010 (UTC)

Thank you
Thank you, Jeanne, for your kind words regarding autoreviewer rights – much appreciated Andy F (talk) 07:20, 30 March 2010 (UTC)
 * You're most welcome, Andy. I was happy to read you had been granted them.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 07:21, 30 March 2010 (UTC)

Rock stars who think they're politicians
Quote: ... you're never, ever going to be Tony Blair. To be frank, most people this side of the Atlantic would give anything not to be Tony Blair or anything like him. Yes, he won elections – but by the time he stepped down as Prime Minister he was pretty much discredited and, in fact, had become one of the most disliked politicians since Thatcher. Since his retirement he has gone on to make an obscene amount of money so now the British public hate him more than ever. Andy F (talk) 10:57, 30 March 2010 (UTC)
 * The reason I specified Blair is because prior to entering politics, he was in an obsure punk band! Anyroad, Andy, I'm sure you'll agree with my sentiments. These guys are paid to sing and perform, not tell us how to think!--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 11:29, 30 March 2010 (UTC)


 * Ahhh, I see – yup, Blair was in a student band called Ugly Rumours. Later, as a politico, he was very keen on being seen in jeans carrying a guitar. There are recent pics of him with a black Strat (with white scratchplate) and a varnished Tele. But Fender or not, the man's a complete a**hole whichever way you look at it.


 * As to your main point, I suppose musoes are like many other people – they have opinions on every issue. The difference is they also have microphones and PAs. Some try to do good (Geldoff for example). Some turn to mainstream politics (like Peter Wishart, formerly with Scottish rockers Runrig and now SNP MP for Perth). Others, like Sting or Bono just make themselves look ridiculous every time they open their mouths.


 * By and large, I think concert audiences would rather be spared quasi-political waffle. I certainly would. That's why I like John Cale's concert style – he barely says a word all evening. Instead, he just plays and sings. Brilliantly IMO. Andy F (talk) 17:53, 30 March 2010 (UTC)
 * That was Jagger's meaning behind Street Fighting Man. The Stones are a Rock band, not spokesmen for an entire generation. Personally I think Bono and Billy Bragg are the most annoying of the lot. Geldof did good, so did Lennon. Besides, the latter was intelligent and savvy.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 17:57, 30 March 2010 (UTC)


 * I think you could say Geldoff is pretty bright too. So, for that matter, are Bono and Billy Bragg. I can forgive Bill his lefty firebrand image because it is sincere and consistent (though I can readily see how it might grate on other people) but Bono is just a spoiled super-rich hypocrite with nothing interesting to say. IMO, of course! Andy F (talk) 18:05, 30 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Bragg is also pretty rich and hypocritical as he's got a huge mansion in Dorset plus a posh interior designer girlfriend whose company logo is her family coat-of-arms. She gave an interview for a magazine boasting how their dog had a leather-covered bed! Not quite the working-class-hero image for a socialist pop star, eh?--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 18:10, 30 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Nowt wrong wi' a bit o' brass, lass Andy F (talk) 18:22, 30 March 2010 (UTC)
 * That would make him a capitalist then! To me he's just a wind-up radical-give him a cause and he's off and running. That miner and docker image he presents to his fans rather dropped off when he met the Queen wearing a suit! Can you see Keith Richards doing that?! Or John Lennon? I'm sorry to be insulting him if he's a friend of yours, but I am a very honest and sincere person, and to me he's a sham.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 18:28, 30 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Hi Jeanne, I got your last and will reply shortly Andy F (talk) 18:14, 31 March 2010 (UTC)

I am reminded of a comment that Tom McGuinness made about Paul Jones, referring to Jones', (I paraphrase)  "leftist leanings, mostly caused by the weight of the wallet in his back pocket." Carptrash (talk) 18:49, 31 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Nice one, Carptrash. I'll put that behind my ear for later. Andy F (talk) 21:27, 31 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Oh, guys, today would have been Ronnie Lane's 64th birthday. He was a lovely person, so I've been told by many people. As for leftist leanings; whenever I hear popstars ranting on about the splendours of Socialism and Communism, I always laugh, thinking how they're getting rich as a part of one of the most capitalistic industries in the world. LOL. O' irony, sublime irony.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 06:25, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

Portrait of Frances Brandon
Hi! I noticed you seem to know a lot about Tudor portraits and I have a question. I recently removed a falsely attributed picture from the German article about Frances Brandon (the one that is actually Mary Nevill). Now someone else added. I have never seen it before and I have my doubts that this is Frances, but I'm no expert. Do you know anything about this portrait? Thanks in advance! --Feuerrabe (talk) 16:23, 31 March 2010 (UTC)
 * It's possible. Author Mary S. Lovell (who wrote Bess of Hardwick) beleives it to be a portrait of Frances; however other scholars opine that there are no authentic likenesses of her apart from her effigy in Westminster Abbey. You might try asking User:Qp10qp. He is an expert on Tudor art, and therefore would know more than I do as to whether it's likely to be an actual portrait of Frances Brandon. Good luck!--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 17:00, 31 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Thank you!--Feuerrabe (talk) 18:02, 31 March 2010 (UTC)
 * You're welcome.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 18:03, 31 March 2010 (UTC)

You may find this interesting
The simple English Wikipedia's article about Margaret of Anjou :) I came across it when the bot added the link to our article. What a reputation, don't you think? :) Surtsicna (talk) 21:51, 31 March 2010 (UTC)
 * I wonder how long that article remained vandalised before it was discovered?--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 06:25, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Actually, it still remains that way and it was created that way. Surtsicna (talk) 10:29, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Oh dear. I can see why it's called Simple Wikipedia! (Shakes head)--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 11:14, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

Elvis Presley - singer or musician?
May I ask you to have a look at Talk:Elvis Presley. I am not happy with the discussion there, as user DocKino claims that there is a consensus in favor of "musician". Onefortyone (talk) 01:40, 2 April 2010 (UTC)
 * I have just commented. The idea of calling him a musician rather than singer is too ridiculous for words. He was and still is known all over the world as a singer not musician. That implied he played the saxophone or trumpet!--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 06:11, 2 April 2010 (UTC)
 * You are right. What about this version:
 * Elvis Aaron (or Aron) Presley (January 8, 1935 – August 16, 1977) was one of the most popular American singers of the 20th century. He also played rhythm guitar and acted in several musical-comedies."
 * To my mind, this may be the most accurate version of the lead. What do you think? Onefortyone (talk) 13:09, 2 April 2010 (UTC)
 * That looks good. I think we should just say Aron as that was his middle name; we need not mention Aaron.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 13:22, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

Jacqui McShee
Thanks, Jeanne. It would be good if we could dig out some references for that article. Andy F (talk) 13:15, 2 April 2010 (UTC)
 * It's hard to find refs for singers and bands which meet Wikipedia requirements. I used to have lots of back issues of Creem, NME, Circus, Rolling Stone, even the groupie magazine Star, but I had to get rid of them with all the moving around I did. A pity, as they'd be good to source from.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 13:25, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

My birthday
Tomorrow is my Wiki-birthday!--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 11:14, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Happy birthday, Jeanne Andy F (talk) 11:26, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Thank you, Andy. Tomorrow I celebrate exactly two years since I made my first edit here. As a present to myself, I uploaded 2 service awards to my user page.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 11:28, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
 * A good present to yourself, Jeanne. Here is a UBX you might like to add:
 * You just need to substitute the XX with the year 2008, the month 04, and the day 02 (or whatever date you joined WP) and it will display – see my user page for an example. Andy F (talk) 12:21, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
 * I just uploaded it. Thanks Andy!--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 12:39, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Happy Wiki Birthday! Hope you have a fun day! Allyson Stephenson (talk) 14:34, 2 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Thank you, Alyson! I appreciate the message.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 14:38, 2 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Thank you, Alyson! I appreciate the message.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 14:38, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

Happy wiki-birthday Jeanne, from one of your wiki-elders. GoodDay (talk) 14:54, 2 April 2010 (UTC)
 * How long have you been here, GoodDay; and when is your Wikibirthday?--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 15:16, 2 April 2010 (UTC)
 * I created my account & signed-in on 'November 17, 2005'. GoodDay (talk) 15:20, 2 April 2010 (UTC)
 * So it'll be 5 years this November since you've been editing! That's long time.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 15:24, 2 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Kinda awhile. There's some who've been editing since Wikipedia's founding year (2001). GoodDay (talk) 15:32, 2 April 2010 (UTC)
 * I know. I forget which editor has the highest edit count. I'm in the top 1000 anyroad.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 15:53, 2 April 2010 (UTC)
 * It's hilarious to check the history of some articles that go back to 2001. They were so simplistic back then. GoodDay (talk) 15:57, 2 April 2010 (UTC)
 * And they had no in-line citations. Wikipedia has definitely improved over the intervening years.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 16:03, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

So. .  .  .  .  .  . . . . . . . . . ...... how seriously can we take an edit made on April Fool's Day ? Carptrash (talk) 00:42, 3 April 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm surprised there wasn't a spate of vandalism. The day was actually very quiet, little vandalism; no fake AN/I reports or blocks.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 12:36, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

Joyeuses Pâques
The bells have just returned from Rome: Joyeuses Pâques ! Buona Pasqua ! Happy Easter ! --Frania W. (talk) 12:29, 3 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Happy Easter to you, too Frania. Last night I went to Mass and took part in the Stations of the Cross afterwards.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 12:34, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

Where's my chocolate bunny?
Where's my chocolate bunny? Nobody gave me a chocolate bunny or chocolate egg for Easter! Even a chocolate hen would be lovely! What a drag of an Easter. I remember all the wonderful Easter egg hunts as a kid, lots of delicious eggs, bunnies and hens.....sigh............--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 09:47, 4 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Happy Easter, Jeanne – here's a virtual bunny. Enjoy your day Andy F (talk) 09:55, 4 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Thank you, it's lovely. I like to eat the eyes, nose and flower first!--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 09:57, 4 April 2010 (UTC)
 * I just went out and bought myself a chocolate bunny-it was lovely!--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 11:04, 4 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Hope you're enjoying the holidays. Happy Easter, Jeanne, Daicaregos (talk) 12:11, 4 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Happy Easter, Jeanne! Jack forbes (talk) 15:50, 4 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Me too. Have a good one Jeanne, (with or without the bunnies!). thinks - Wonder what GD will do with that innocent remark ;-) RashersTierney (talk) 16:04, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

What an exciting day!
There would be more action in a ghost town than where I am now! Boreville. I don't think I have ever passed such a boring, dreary Easter! Hopefully GoodDay will sign in soon and cheer me up.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 14:24, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

Happy Easter...
...sexy gal. Chocolate is tasty, candy is too, neither are as sweet as you. GoodDay (talk) 22:17, 4 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Thank you, but I hope you meant sweet, and not sweat! LOL.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 08:01, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Yup, sweet (just fixed it). GoodDay (talk) 15:20, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

Translation
Hi, Jeanne. Could you do me a favour please and translate this Italian piece? It is in connection to a discussion going on at Dai's talk page. Thanks. Jack forbes (talk) 18:47, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
 * It's been translated now. Thanks, Jeanne. Jack forbes (talk) 19:25, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Jeanne, do you speak/read/translate Italian? I have some old Italian letters to my grandmother, but they are all in Itaian and she is so far out of practice she dosn't remember what they say anymore. Can you, or do you know anyone that could, translate them? Allyson Stephenson (talk) 19:31, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm not certain if Jeanne can but she has children who surely can. Hope those letters aren't too racey! :) Jack forbes (talk) 19:36, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Alyson, I might be able to translate them if they were written in standard Italian and not regional dialect. Whereabouts in Italy is your grandmother from? If they were written in Sicilian dialect perhaps my kids could translate them as they speak fluent dialect; however, remember even dialects have changed over the years, so if they were written in an archaic form of Sicilian dialect, my kids may not be able to understand them.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 07:19, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Hmmm very good point. I will have to get them from her and scan them. I know that her father was orig from Bari. I belive that these letters are from her half brothers that moved to South Africa. I will find out asap. Thanks SO Much, even for saying you would try. We have wondered for a long time what these say! Allyson Stephenson (talk) 12:22, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

Kingdom of Heaven
I just saw the Crusader film Kingdom of Heaven last night. If Saladin is waiting for me in Heaven, I had better mend my ways, so I'll be able to join him there one day (?) in the future. Honestly, Ghassan Massoud is one of the sexiest actors I've seen since Chuck Connors walked down the street firing off his rifle in The Rifleman.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 12:27, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Coincidentally, it was on TV the other evening here too. I thought it was slow to get going but the typically lavish Ridley Scott sets and the action sequences were very cinematic I must confess. And I see how a gal might fall for Sala ad-Din if he looked like that . Andy F (talk) 14:03, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Out of all the nobles present, Sala ad-Din looked the most authentic of the lot. He was one of history's greatest and most chivalric rulers, IMO.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 17:07, 10 April 2010 (UTC)

Wikipedia's quiet
Wikipedia is very quiet this evening; that means everyone else is out having fun on a Saturday night and I'm not!--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 18:29, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
 * No, we're all busy editing! :) Andy F (talk) 20:14, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
 * I've been busy yelling at the TV set, everytime Tiger Woods is mentioned. GoodDay (talk) 20:59, 10 April 2010 (UTC)

I'm wiped out
I just got back from a car meet and a typically Sicilian food fair; there were thousands of people milling about. I'm totally wiped out!--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 16:13, 11 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Oh, did you meet any nice cars? Andy F (talk) 16:47, 11 April 2010 (UTC)
 * I rode in one. I also saw a georgeous American Indian musician who was playing at the fair. There was live music and everything-it was a really lively street fair with a carnival atmosphere. In fact I just uploaded an image I took today to the article :Ramacca.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 18:26, 11 April 2010 (UTC)
 * So I see! looks like fun. Andy F (talk) 18:49, 11 April 2010 (UTC)
 * And from the smilin' self-portrait, it obviously was fun Andy F (talk) 20:53, 11 April 2010 (UTC)
 * It was fun.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk)

05:47, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

Barnstar
Hey, Jeanne, thanks very much for the Barnstar – it really is greatly appreciated. Thank you! Andy F (talk) 16:14, 12 April 2010 (UTC)
 * You deserve it, Andy. IMO, editors need to be better appreciated around here. It seems like Wikis Drama Kings and Queens receive all the accolades, while those who work away are ignored.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 16:25, 12 April 2010 (UTC)
 * True that! -- Jack1755 (talk) 16:26, 12 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Isn't my top gear? A pity you cannot see it better, but it's very unusual; a mixture of green, black, grey, shimmering red and majenta..--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 16:28, 12 April 2010 (UTC)
 * "It is divine, dahling, simply too too divine. Mwahhh mwahhh" . BTW, I chuckled at the juxtaposition of 'top' and 'gear'. Did you know that there is a long-running BBC TV show for petrolheads called 'Top Gear' starring three very unreformed laddish blokes? Andy F (talk) 17:05, 12 April 2010 (UTC)
 * There was also a men's fashion shop in Dublin called Top Gear when I lived there. I don't know if it's still around.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 17:07, 12 April 2010 (UTC)
 * I wonder if Jeremy Clarkson ever shopped there? Andy F (talk) 18:18, 12 April 2010 (UTC)
 * I never saw him wandering about Dublin; although I did see this guy once walking up Grafton Street.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 18:22, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

More hassle
Hi, Jeanne. I am retired, honest! I made the mistake of logging in and seeing Snowded being pestered about his real life article again. I had to weigh in to defend him because quite frankly he's had enough hassle from Irvine over it to last a lifetime. Jack forbes (talk) 13:21, 13 April 2010 (UTC)
 * I don't understand why Irvine is still so obsessed with Snowded; because that's what all his persistant harassment clearly is: an obsession.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 13:37, 13 April 2010 (UTC)
 * There is another editor who has taken a keen interest in Snowded's article. Funnily enough, he has had disagreements with Snowded on other topics. Jack forbes (talk) 13:48, 13 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes, so I noticed. He does not have any connection to Irvine though.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 13:53, 13 April 2010 (UTC)
 * No connection but the same desire to annoy him. As I have said on Snowded's talk page, he should either put up or shut up. His comments are full of innuendos concerning Snowded's part in his article. Jack forbes (talk) 13:58, 13 April 2010 (UTC)
 * I've done my good deed for the year, so I'll be off again. :) Jack forbes (talk) 14:11, 13 April 2010 (UTC)
 * The place is so dull without you here, Jack.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 14:17, 13 April 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm in desperate need of a patch to wean myself off this place, Jeanne. Logging in I think is the big mistake. I'll tell you what Jeanne. I'm going to stay away for six months, which I'm sure will be long enough to make me feel revigorated about this place. I'll see you in October. Jack forbes (talk) 14:23, 13 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Jack, that's an excellent idea. Take a six-months break from the place; then when you come back in October you'll feel full of new energy and enthusiasm for the project. Good Luck, and I'll see you when you get back.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 14:28, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

Letters
Jeanne, I was able to get those letters from my father. I plan on trying to get them scaned into the computer tonight. How should I get you copies? Allyson Stephenson (talk) 16:04, 13 April 2010 (UTC)
 * E-mail me. My e-mail address is Windows Live Messenger jeannegriffin@hotmail.it This way I can translate them to you privately.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 16:08, 13 April 2010 (UTC)
 * It should make for a interesting read let me tell you. From what I have been told, my Great grandfather left his wife and 2 son's in Italy and came to America and re-married here (unsure if he was even divorced in Italy). These letters I am guessing are from his sons. I am very excited to find out what they say! Allyson Stephenson (talk) 16:15, 13 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Divorce was not legal in Italy until 1974!!!! You probably have many relatives in Italy who most likely don't know about their American cousins!--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 16:18, 13 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Like I said.. should be a interesting read! You may even know some of my cousins hehehe Allyson Stephenson (talk) 16:23, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

Crowds
For those who love crowds....check out this photo I took the other day.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 08:03, 14 April 2010 (UTC)

Medieval married names
Hi Jeanne. There's a question on the reference desk - here - that I thought you might be able to answer. Can you? Ghmyrtle (talk) 08:24, 14 April 2010 (UTC)
 * I answered it and referred the querent to this article: Family names. It appears that the tradition of women assuming their husbands' surnames began in the Middle Ages.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 09:05, 14 April 2010 (UTC)

Julia Bulette
Jeanne, I added Julia's burial site and a Find A Grave link for same. You might be interested in the last paragraph of the Find A Grave obit for her - it says non-specified recent research says Julia was born in Mississippi. There is also a link at the bottom to the woman who put that obit up - by the name of Angel Brant. Thought you might like to have the info. Maile66 (talk) 23:40, 14 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Thank you. I included the bit about Mississippi in the article; however, I feel it unlikely that she was born there. Find A Grave doesn't say who discovered this info. Thanks again.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 11:50, 15 April 2010 (UTC)

Feria del Sol (Mérida)
Buongiorno Madame, la scrivo per sapere come andiamo da lei, e per chiederle se gentilmente potrebbe aggiustarmi questo articolo da me scritto. il mio inglese è semplicemente peggiorato, a perché sto appendendo lo spagnolo...una lingua che mi piace molto...l'articolo in questione riguarda una nota festa in Mérida, Venezuela, e datosì che io sono molto vicino al popolo di questa città grazie anche ad un noto socialnetwork, e mi hanno dato grandi soddisfazioni anche in campo affettivo e di studi, mi chiedevo se lei gentilmente potrebbe aiutarmi a inglesizzare l'articolo per renderlo totaly english dove ci fossero italianismi o imprecisioni. e se possibile togliere il template di references, non so se posso permettermelo io di farlo, nell'attesa di una sua certa risposta la rigrazio in anticipo con questo regalo musicale♥ con l'augurio che le piaccia♥grazie per tutto♥--Lodewijk Vadacchino (talk) 09:56, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
 * grazie vivissimamente♥ come si deve fare con il template di terze parti? lo posso togliere io o lo deve levare un admin?♥--Lodewijk Vadacchino (talk) 15:15, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
 * No, devi lasciare per un admin. Noi non posso toglie template finché non gia sistemato.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 15:49, 16 April 2010 (UTC)

Brian of Brittany
Thank you for the advice: it has added quite a lot of useful information.--Felix Folio Secundus (talk) 15:06, 17 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Oh, you're welcome. I'm glad you found some more information on him. You had me curious about him as well!--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 15:12, 17 April 2010 (UTC)

Charles III
With all the past & current disputing over the Elizabeth II article name, hopefully Charlie will choose George VII as his regnal title. GoodDay (talk) 15:54, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
 * I think he will. He has said so in interviews. Oh, there is an interesting discussion on time travel on the Reference desk/Humanities page. You would probably find it entertaining.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 16:00, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

Happy Jeanne boleyn's Day!
For a userbox you can add to your userbox page, see User:Rlevse/Today/Happy Me Day! and my own userpage for a sample of how to use it. — Rlevse • Talk  • 00:20, 22 April 2010 (UTC)


 * Congrats, Jeanne! --Kansas Bear (talk) 02:44, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Thank you. It is a lovely gesture and I really appreciate it.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 05:22, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Congrats Hun! Glad to see that you are awarded for all your hard work! Allyson Stephenson (talk) 17:25, 23 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks. It was so nice to wake up and find that on my talk page yesterday morning. Honestly, I enjoy editing and creating articles, but it's pleasant to know that it is appreciated.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 17:32, 23 April 2010 (UTC)

Brian of Brittany
Another editor has now done a proper article for this man which includes the following: "Brian received grants of land in Suffolk and Cornwall, although the first mention of him being made Earl of Cornwall was not made until 1140 by his nephew, Alan III of Richmond. He had been given the same title by King Stephen and may have been trying to improve the legitimacy of his new rank". What do you think about entering him on the Earl of Cornwall page; Robert of Mortain was usually described as Earl of Cornwall but whether this was formally true seems doubtful. Cadoc hardly counts as only William of Worcester reports on him 4 centuries later. It also brings up the question of the founding of Launceston Castle the main Norman stronghold in Cornwall. Brian was hardly there long enough perhaps.// You now have a day of your own like St. George which we celebrate here in England.// Best wishes.--Felix Folio Secundus (talk) 16:36, 23 April 2010 (UTC)
 * I think we could list him on the Earl of Cornwall page.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 16:41, 23 April 2010 (UTC)
 * He has got a place now on the list: we could also remember Miguel Cervantes today but in Spain the calendar was already Gregorian. Apparently today is World Book Day as well but in the United Kingdom we have moved it to March.--Felix Folio Secundus (talk) 22:47, 23 April 2010 (UTC)

Server problems
Par for the course, I'm having server problems today, therefore if someone leaves me a message, I might not be able to respond. I'm sorry.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 07:14, 26 April 2010 (UTC)

Courtesy note
You are receiving this message because an RFC has been initiated at Talk:John J. Pershing about a matter on which you may have commented in the past. Thank you, –xeno talk  15:53, 27 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Thank you, I have left a comment there.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 17:40, 27 April 2010 (UTC)

Alert
This is an alert to all Wikipedians that User Jeanne Boleyn is not in her No More Mr Nice Guy mode/mood today. Forewarned is forearmed!--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 08:18, 28 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Are you back to the Jeanne we all know and love, yet? Daicaregos (talk) 08:29, 29 April 2010 (UTC)


 * Yes. I'm keeping the picture of Alice up though, just in case! I'll add not when I'm feeling pleasant.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 08:36, 29 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Good. Welcome back. Though I reckon the picture of Uma Thurman is even scarier than Alice. btw, you haven't added not yet. Daicaregos (talk) 08:43, 29 April 2010 (UTC)
 * She was probably having a bad hair day. BTW, doesn't Uma remind you a bit of the Hot Gossip dancer Perri Lister? Although the latter is far more georgeous than the former even if she is 11 years older.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 08:45, 29 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Oh yes. I couldn't remember who she was, though, and there's no image on her article. This is a good one. Love your storm btw, Jeanne. Daicaregos (talk) 08:54, 29 April 2010 (UTC)
 * I created her article a little over a year ago, but I still haven't been able to locate a free image of her. There are loads of good pics all over Internet, but none seem to be in the public domain.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 08:57, 29 April 2010 (UTC)
 * I've asked a couple of agents for pics. Some have agreed. The alternative is to wait 'till they die, after which the image is deemed 'not easily replaceable'. Apparently, this is my 1000th user talk post. Paint it Black is playing on the radio now (BBC Radio Wales). I'm just off out now cu l8er Jeanne. Daicaregos (talk) 09:04, 29 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Actually, Alice Cooper is quite good-looking in person. I saw him in a Los Angeles restaurant back in 1977. Rod Stewart, on the other hand, looks like a parrot. I used to see him all the time when I lived in LA.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 05:04, 30 April 2010 (UTC)

"A title is a title"
Is this true? No specific enoblling takes place with a courtesy title. As the article on courtesy titles makes plain, in law, the person using such a "title" by courtesy remains a commoner. It is his father that was created Viscount. His decision to style himself by his more senior titles of Earl in no way takes from his possession of the title Viscount. Two living men cannot hold the same title. So styling George as a Viscount is a fiction, a polite convention that has no standing in law. So the "by courtesy" qualification should be restored. Laurel Lodged (talk) 12:29, 5 May 2010 (UTC)
 * I believe George was ennobled as 2nd Viscount Rochford in December 1529. His father had been granted the titles of Earl of Ormond and Earl of Wiltshire around the same time. However, you might wish to consult these editors who have more knowledge of the peerage than I do. They are: User:Surtsicna, User:Kittybrewster, User:Boleyn.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 12:50, 5 May 2010 (UTC)

2010 UK election
I'm amazed at what's happening in the UK. Compared to how it's done in Canada, David Cameron (for a start) should have Prime Minister-Designate in his article. GoodDay (talk) 14:18, 7 May 2010 (UTC)

British Isles
Due to the fact that I do not want my comments taken up my some fringe extreme contributors who seem unable to read context, I'm afraid I'm having to post this to your own personal page. My feelings are such that I would suggest you ignore the person commenting under the IP address 86.44.43.208 and 86.44.32.114. I have done an IP locator on the address and can confirm that the user is indeed Irish, hailing from Dublin, and I am in no doubt that the person possesses some extremist views regarding Irish nationalism and his/her perceived British domination of the world. Perhaps the person, who seems so interested in historical points of interest, should look at the history of other countries, such as Russia, Germany, France, the United States, the Muslim Caliphate, the Hordes of Genghis Khan, etc. and realise that what the British did in Ireland (or continue to do depending on the particular viewpoint) is not restricted to the nation of Britain. In other words, it is not a British phenomenon, but a human one. When a group/nation/state has a particular advantage over another, they always seem hell-bent on utilising this advantage over others, often at the expense of the "subjugated". This person also seems interested in analysing only information which is present in small comments to build up entire pictures of reality, without any further background information, and without any real in-depth analysis of that which lies before him. Basically, I don't see how you responding to him any further can result in anything positive, in fact I believe that it will only infuriate you to be targeted again in such a silly manner. Best wishes/le dea-ghuí, --MacTire02 (talk) 15:16, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm not bothered. My dad and I used to argue politics (I'm a monarchist), I lived in Dublin for years, where I never met any people like these IP posters here, my first husband was from a staunch Fianna Fail family, two of my sons are Northsiders, I had a boyfriend from West Belfast, etc., and all I can say is that the people who comment on that page do not represent Ireland; rather they are just fanatics whose world vision doesn't extend beyond the North Wall on a rare, clear day. Thanks for sending me your message, you are a very kind person.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 15:24, 7 May 2010 (UTC)

Tywardreath
Hi Jeanne, you ask have I ever been to Tywardreath, setting of Daphne Du Maurier's The House on the Strand? The answer is no and, to be honest, I hadn't heard of that particular novel either – but from the Wikipedia entry it sounds very interesting and I will try to get hold of a copy so thanks for the steer. I have, however, been to Menabilly, prototype for Manderley, the house in Rebecca.

Love the animated pic BTW... if I don't get some shelter/ Oh lord, gonna fade away :) Andy F (talk) 17:11, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
 * The vocal backups by Merry Clayton combined with the guitar wizardry of Keith Richards resulted in a rock masterpiece and a musical monument.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 17:39, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes, and Merry Clayton later released the song herself as a single – I've got it somewhere dug it out and sent you label details Andy F (talk) 19:39, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
 * THe book is wonderful and the people of the 14th century were authentic-the Carminowes and Champernounes.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 17:41, 7 May 2010 (UTC)

About teachers who are wrong but won't admit it...


I've seen you discussed about this at the desk, when a person said that his/her teacher had insisted that Henry the Eight had had 8 wives. I guess, if you ask the teacher, Edward VI must have had 6 wives and Elizabeth the First must have had one husband!

Anyway, my English teacher in high school managed to blend Mary I of England and Mary I of Scotland into one person, a Mary who was the daughter of Henry VIII, who escaped to Scotland when Henry VIII married Anne Boleyn and became Scotland's queen (who was, by the way, a wonderful person as she puts it) and who gave birth to Elizabeth I's successor. Of course, I corrected her, but the next day she came and told me that she checked and the she was right, thus embarassing me in front of the class. She also told students that Anne Boleyn was a wonderful woman who opened the first orphanage in England and who was always adored by the English. Oh.

If I recall correctly, you have a similar story to share? Surtsicna (talk) 19:10, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes, I remember in high school I corrected my art teacher after she said that Marie Antoinette made the famous statement "Let them eat cake", and I raised my hand and told her it had been Marie Therese of Spain, the consort of Louis XIV who had actually said it-a century before! Was she furious and flustered!--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 05:44, 8 May 2010 (UTC)

Regarding those who are wrong but won't admit it, please take a look at Talk:Elizabeth I of England. Long story short, User:Alwpoe [inserts the statement that Mary and Elizabeth were stepsisters and not half-sisters. Unfortunatly, it'll take a more than one person to convince him/her that they are wrong. [[User:Surtsicna|Surtsicna]] (talk) 13:10, 8 May 2010 (UTC)
 * I've reported Alwpoe. Please see Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring. I'd appreciate if you could leave a comment there, at least confirming my statement. Surtsicna (talk) 20:50, 8 May 2010 (UTC)
 * I've left my comment there. Thanks, Surtsicna.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 07:59, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

Happy Mommy's Day...
..to you Jeanne. GoodDay (talk) 14:07, 9 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Why thank you, GoodDay. I'm sorry you didn't like the pierced navel I sent you!--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 14:08, 9 May 2010 (UTC)
 * No probs, giggle giggle. GoodDay (talk) 14:32, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

By the way, why do ya have May 10th birthday celebs in your birthday section? Today's May 9th. GoodDay (talk) 15:09, 9 May 2010 (UTC)
 * I had them here but decided to add the 10 May celebrities yesterday instead of this morning. I wanted to create a new article this morning and knew I'd be pressed for time, and it takes me about an hour to add them all, what with the links, images, etc., so I jumped the gun.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 18:52, 10 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Don't you love the songs I chose today? LOL.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 18:54, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

Beware,_Princess_Elizabeth
Could you join us in the discussion at Talk:Beware,_Princess_Elizabeth? I thought the last revision made it pretty clear that the assertions were 'in story', not historical. Your thoughts on why it did not suffice? I'm hoping we can get this sorted out amicably. -- Nuujinn (talk) 18:59, 11 May 2010 (UTC)

Cornwall
 Quote: I see Cornwall has been keeping you very busy!

Hi Jeanne. Yup, it's been busy as you can read here Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Cornwall and here User:Andy_F/Sandbox2.

So, tell us your adventures disambiguating pages. Andy F (talk) 19:07, 14 May 2010 (UTC)
 * I created disambiguation pages on 15 of the articles I had created due to the possible confusion over names. I did this when someone mistook Helena Palaiologina for her cousin of the same name and gave her incorrect ancestors that took me ages to sort out. That's when I decided to do DAB pages.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 05:44, 15 May 2010 (UTC)

Hi Jeanne
Hey Jeanne yeah things have been good ive been taking a break but i hope to start on some new articles... really i sound like a singer whos been on a 5year break and is about to do a new album--David (talk) 19:29, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

Power crazy Guy
Would you say this Guy was drunk with power?--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 06:50, 15 May 2010 (UTC)

Advice on getting format consensus?
Care to give me some advice here? Cordially, SergeWoodzing (talk) 15:09, 15 May 2010 (UTC)

Advice on getting format consensus?
Care to give me some advice here? Cordially, SergeWoodzing (talk) 15:07, 15 May 2010 (UTC)

Habsburg Infanta/Infante of Spain
I've been wondering for a long time why most of the children of Spanish monarchs from Charles I of Spain to Charles II of Spain were changed to X of Austria. I notice a while back but haven't pay much attention to it. I've seen no diccussion on such moves. These moves seem to leave their status as Infanta/Infante of Spain in the dust. What do you think of it?--Queen Elizabeth II&#39;s Little Spy (talk) 01:17, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
 * That's true. Look at Anne of Austria, Queen consort of King Louis XIII of France. She was the daughter of the King of Spain!--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 09:54, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Well, besides being infantes and infantas of the Spanish kingdoms, they were also archdukes and archduchesses of Austria (being agnatic descendants of Maximilian I of Austria). Sometimes history remembers those Spanish infantes by their Austrian title. This is because the House of Habsburg was often called House of Austria; therefore, Anne of Austria=Anne of Habsburg. "of Austria" (de Austria) was some kind of a surname to them. See for example the article about Charles II of Spain at the Spanish Wiki - the lead sentence refers to him as Carlos II de Austria. It seems that their status as Spanish infantes was actually in the dust! Surtsicna (talk) 14:46, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Well here is my stance on this. It seems rather redunctant to mention them as part a country that only one of them, Charles I of Spain, ever ruled at all. And when I started editing on Wikipedia half these articles in question were X of Spain, some of Philip I of Castile's daughters were once X of Castile. Plus many of the different language wikipedia disagree. Some German article agree to their Spanish/Castilian background while some Spanish articles agree to their Austrian background. --Queen Elizabeth II&#39;s Little Spy (talk) 14:49, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
 * The fact that they were of the House of Habsburg gives Austria precedence over Spain in their titles, as in the afore-mentioned Anne of Austria, daughter of King Philip III of Spain!--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 17:28, 16 May 2010 (UTC)

Is Jeanne Boleyn stupid?
In response to the implication by an esteemed fellow editor that I was stupid, I have opened a debate on the subject here. Those wishing to leave a comment may do so below this line. Thanks and all replies will be carefully evaluated and considered.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 11:42, 17 May 2010 (UTC)
 * This is a tricky one. It's all about self identification I think. Do you self identify as stupid? Even if you do, are there any reliable sources to back it up? Remember, Wikipedia is all about verifiable sources, not the truth. :) Jack forbes (talk) 11:51, 17 May 2010 (UTC)
 * No, Jack I don't self-identify as stupid, but rather as someone very quick to see the bullshit behind pseudo-intellectual posturing. I don't waste words in denouncing it either: a simple Jesus Fuc.ing Wept will normally suffice. However, and this is a BIG however; the opinion of the editor who made the implication must be taken into account, otherwise we have a NPOV here, which is not allowed at Wikipedia. It's all a matter of weighing the sources.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 12:17, 17 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Never mind Jeanne. Sticks and stones and all that. If it's any consolation I think you're a clever wee cookie. Jack forbes (talk) 12:27, 17 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks, Jack. I appreciate your support. Anyroad, I challenged him on his talk page.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 12:31, 17 May 2010 (UTC)
 * You're not stupid, Jeanne. If one was stupid, one wouldn't be able to conceive the question "am I stupid?". A person who's mentally challenged, isn't aware he/she is mentally challenged. GoodDay (talk) 14:37, 17 May 2010 (UTC)


 * Oppose: editor is not stupid. TFOWRpropaganda 14:38, 17 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Oppose: And GoodDay, thank god I'm not mentally challenged. Hang on, if I'm not aware of it that could mean....Nooo! Jack forbes (talk) 14:42, 17 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Oppose, the accusation against Jeanne. GoodDay (talk) 14:46, 17 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment It's not so much the fact that I was called stupid but rather the reason behind it: namely because on Ref desk Humanities I opposed the opinions of a philosopher, who advocates the murder of children under 2 and thinks it's OK for humans to have sex with animals (Look out Tony, the philosopher is behind you!). It's a bit like the nice teenage girl who is called a slut by her classmates just because she engages in a wee bit of dry-humping with her steady boyfriend.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 14:56, 17 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Lol. Dry humping, I have'nt heard that phrase for years! I'm off for a wee bit of dry humping. LOL Jack forbes (talk) 14:59, 17 May 2010 (UTC)
 * The sex act which nobody ever admits having done!--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 15:01, 17 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Maybe we should set up a poll and advertise it throughout wikipedia. We've got to pin this down. Jack forbes (talk) 15:06, 17 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Even the article on dry humping isn't accurate. It never does describe 'real get-down-to-it dry humping the way it was actually done!--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 15:08, 17 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Strong Oppose! Which editor condoned beastiality? LOL. As for dry-humping, teenagers nowadays take it much further. With animals, that is. ;) LOL -- Jack1755 (talk) 15:51, 17 May 2010 (UTC)


 * Oppose: The idea is almost as daft as the Dukedom of Scotland (sorry I missed this yesterday). Daicaregos (talk) 13:17, 18 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment: It's incivility like this which makes me alsmost wish I were administrator for a day. Instead of firing off blocks and reprimands for the odd curse word, I would come down like a tonne of bricks on anyone who implied another editor was studid on the basis of not supporting a crackpot philosopher who advocates infanticide and bestiality (Tony look out the philosopher is gaining on you)! Jesus wept!--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 13:31, 18 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment: I think the !vote is going your way, Jeanne. Once the poll is closed you can type it boldly on your user page that the consensus is that you are not stupid. You'll be the only one on wiki that can do that. Jack forbes (talk) 13:39, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

New Article
Hello Jeanne my second newest article since my return is Joanna of Rosenthal, queen of bohemia though she can be forgottern what do you think?--David (talk) 16:41, 17 May 2010 (UTC)
 * David, I don't understand what is meant by the home state of nobility?--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 16:50, 17 May 2010 (UTC)
 * It was a translation im not sure myself i think it means a ruler and his wife ruling a country and they're both natives to that country--David (talk) 19:26, 17 May 2010 (UTC)
 * I went ahead and removed the sentence as it didn't make sense, and was not really necessary, anyway.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 08:22, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

My other doppelganger
Hey, I just found another doppelganger!--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 15:56, 18 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Is to have another baby all that you want too? Daicaregos (talk) 16:07, 18 May 2010 (UTC)
 * I think 4 is enough, Dai. My God, she even has the same colour eyes as me! Of course, she's a lot younger than I am.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 16:11, 18 May 2010 (UTC)
 * And yet, just as pretty. Daicaregos (talk) 16:15, 18 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Thank you, Dai. She has a birthday tomorrow-she turns 38. To be that young again......--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 16:17, 18 May 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm happy enough as I am. I can't think of anything I could do then that I can't now (possibly to see a little better). Daicaregos (talk) 16:25, 18 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes, but you are probably younger than I am. I would give anything to be in my 20s again.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 16:51, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

Lucy Lambert Hale
I've been bold and, without so much as a by your leave, nominated your article at T:TDYK. It's a great article! Hope you don't mind - if you do, just withdraw it from the queue. Ghmyrtle (talk) 18:21, 18 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Thank you so much, Gmyrtle. I'm really pleased about this as I am fascinated by her story and am glad people appreciate my attempt at bringing her out of the shadows and into the light of historical recognition where she truly belongs. Thanks again, Gmyrtle.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 18:33, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

Crime and punishment
Just wondered about your post here. How can a homeless Gypsy be sentenced to "house" arrest? Was the judge having a laugh (or were you)? Could it be seen as cruel and unusual punishment? Please excuse the time-lag. Some things take a while to sink in :) Daicaregos (talk) 15:23, 19 May 2010 (UTC)
 * The homeless gypsy in question, Marco Ahmetovic, was sentenced by the judge to hosue arrest in a luxury condo overlooking the sea. This was meant to be his punishment for having killed four 17 year-olds. He was not sent to an ordinary prison as the judge feared for his safety inside. Believe me it caused a huge outcry here. You can do a Google search on him: Marco Ahmetovic. He also has a line of sunglasses and jeans with his logo. Crime and Punishment- a la italiana!!!!--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 15:31, 19 May 2010 (UTC)
 * According to the article, house arrest is a measure by which a person is confined by the authorities to his or her residence. If it wasn't his residence, then wouldn't that residence be a prison? If it was his residence, he wasn't homeless. Something's gotta give. Daicaregos (talk) 15:39, 19 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Well, seeing as he was homeless, the residence given to him became his prison. If you can call a condo by the sea a prison! The line of jeans he sponsors is called Romjeans and he signed a contract for 30,000 Euro. And I was always told as a kid "Crime doesn't pay". Jesus wept!--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 15:42, 19 May 2010 (UTC)

Anne Seymour D of Somerset
Lord have mercy, thanks for the assist on that page. It read like a bad translation of stereo instructions before. And I found it just wandering around Wikipedia. PR (talk) 19:07, 19 May 2010 (UTC)
 * LOL, you should have seen the grammar on this page: Caterina Sforza before I made an attempt to fix it last year! This morning I had a go here: Elizabeth de Vere.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 08:11, 20 May 2010 (UTC)

Lady of the Isles
Can you assist in the days to come if I need any help on this new list I'm making of the wives of the Lords of the Isles? I'm not sure if you know much about this, but you seem to specialize in British nobility. I am also probably going to try to create a List of Manx consorts. My first two question. Did John of Islay, Lord of the Isles having any connection with the last king of Mann and the Isles? What happen between those years that John was given the title of Lord of the Isles in 1336 and the split up of the Kingdom of Mann and the Isles? --Queen Elizabeth II&#39;s Little Spy (talk) 00:21, 20 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Also why does Charles Cawley's Medieval Lands start with Somerled as the first Lord of the Isles?--Queen Elizabeth II&#39;s Little Spy (talk) 01:09, 20 May 2010 (UTC)
 * In point of fact, a couple of months ago, I created an article on the first female Lord of Mann, Elizabeth de Vere, Countess of Derby. I really don't know much about Manx history apart from her. I do know the hereditary lordship was in the Stanley family for many generations.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 08:16, 20 May 2010 (UTC)

Merry merry month of May?
The calendar reads May, but at the moment it seems like March!--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 13:42, 20 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Sorry to hear that Jeanne. Guess we've been having your weather. It's been a lovely few days here - wall to wall sunshine and temperatures in the mid 20s (my car dashboard display reckoned it was 26 at one point yesterday). And a beautiful morning again now. Bet that by August you'll be wishing for rain again. Daicaregos (talk) 07:05, 22 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Actually Dai, the sun is out today, and not a cloud to be seen! I'm glad you are having nice weather as well. Last night they showed Braveheart on tv. It's a good film, but a pity it's so full of historical errors.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 07:13, 22 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Back to normality then. You'll have to update your weather (storm and rain) pictures, or at least the captions. Is Braveheart dubbed or subtitled? Daicaregos (talk) 07:21, 22 May 2010 (UTC)
 * It's dubbed, which I hate as I like to hear the Scots accents! However, I own the video in English, albeit my VCR is broken. Oh, during a discussion on Upper Class I was informed by another editor over at Reference desk/Humanities of the difference between antecendants and descendants!!!!! I would think after having created over 200 articles on noble heiresses, I would know the definition of the two words by now!!! Jesus wept!--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 07:28, 22 May 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Lucy Lambert Hale
The DYK project (nominate) 00:08, 25 May 2010 (UTC)


 * Yay! Well done! I'm surprised in a way it got through, because it was nominated 8 days after it was started which is a longer gap than their rules allow, but they obviously thought it had special merit.  If you start any other articles that might be good for DYK (I'm sure you will), let me know - or put them forward yourself, of course.  Ghmyrtle (talk) 07:17, 25 May 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm so happy you nominated it. Thanks again. I hope more editors add to it; there have to be people out there with bios on John Wilkes Booth and the Lincoln assassination who can provide more sourced info on her. My latest articles are little more than stubs, alas.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 07:35, 25 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Congratulations, Jeanne! Well deserved. Jack forbes (talk) 10:35, 25 May 2010 (UTC)
 * One of the most interesting DYKs I've seen for many a while. Well done Jeanne. Daicaregos (talk) 12:11, 25 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks lads, but I must only take partial credit as it it's the subject herself that is interesting. I only made an attempt to bring her out of the shadows of obscurity. Thank you again for your support, it is graetly appreciated.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 12:18, 25 May 2010 (UTC)
 * You deserve all the credit for writing the article. Way to go, Jeanne! Jack forbes (talk) 12:22, 25 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Her story provides food for thought as it adds a whole new dimension to the Lincoln assassination. It is actually more bizarre than the JFK assassination.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 12:26, 25 May 2010 (UTC)

Robert Catesby
There aren't many regular contributors to this article, but you're one of them. I thought I'd let you know that I intend to work on the article and raise it to GA or FA, as with Guy Fawkes. Malleus and me have spoken about a Gunpowder Plot Featured Topic, and I think its quite do-able. What do you reckon? Your help would be very much appreciated. Parrot of Doom 12:32, 25 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes, I think it's a good idea. The Catesby article was rather sparse so I added to it. I'd be glad to help in anyway I can. Thanks for inviting me, POD.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 12:43, 25 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Ok then, well I'll just read through what I have and add as I go along, Malleus might do the same while correcting my ham-fisted grammar. Anything I can't find a source for, I'll tag. Parrot of Doom 12:46, 25 May 2010 (UTC)
 * I have just commented on the article's talk page that the lead is too brief. A mention of Guy Fawkes, Houses of Parliament, and King James all need to be there IMO.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 12:49, 25 May 2010 (UTC)



A message to sarky editors
I am letting it be known here on my talk page that I am f..king sick and tired of put-downs, sarky remarks, and condescension from certain editors. I have a right to my opinion, and after 45,000 edits and more than two years of my time spent on the project, I don't feel I deserve to be kicked in the arse by some editors everytime I ask a question or give my opinion. If some of you don't like me or what I say, tough titty. Have I made myself perfectly clear?!!!!!--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 08:54, 30 May 2010 (UTC)

Bad day?
Wouldn't like to get on the wrong side of you today! ;) Jack forbes (talk) 09:01, 30 May 2010 (UTC)
 * LOL! Jack, don't worry, you could never piss me off. I like you-in fact, you, Daicaregos, GoodDay, Jack1755 and Gmyrtle are my favourite editors.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 09:03, 30 May 2010 (UTC)


 * Phew! Glad to hear it wasn't me then, Jeanne :) Daicaregos (talk) 15:38, 30 May 2010 (UTC)
 * You could never upset me, Dai. Anyroad, anytime I'm in an upset or angry mood, I'll put my angry photo here on my talk page.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 08:34, 31 May 2010 (UTC)

Formula 1 Race today
Go Michael Schumacher Fernando Alonso!!!!!!--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 09:35, 30 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Schumacher's getting closer. It won't be today but give it a few more races and he may be standing on the podium. Jack forbes (talk) 09:39, 30 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Hopefully he'll make one of his famous leaps in the air! Ahh...those were the days, eh, Jack?!--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 09:40, 30 May 2010 (UTC)
 * I remember he got some criticism from the Italians a few years ago because they thought he didn't treat their national anthem with enough respect. They were maybe being a little bit too sensitive over it as I don't remember the Italian members of the Ferrari crew standing to attention. Jack forbes (talk) 09:51, 30 May 2010 (UTC)
 * They were also critical because he spoke very little Italian. As long as he drove Ferrari to win numerous times, why should they have cared about anything else?--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 09:55, 30 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Yep. If there were a Scottish team I wouldn't care if he didn't speak Scots or Scots Gaelic. As long as he was winning world championships for them who cares. Jack forbes (talk) 10:06, 30 May 2010 (UTC)


 * He was way off the pace of the Red Bulls and McClaren, but one place off the podium wasn't too bad. Jack forbes (talk) 14:46, 30 May 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm sure my previous bad humour was nothing compared to the mood Mark Webber is probably in at the moment! He was so close to victory until Wettel f..ked it up. What an ass.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 14:48, 30 May 2010 (UTC)
 * I wonder who Wettel was referring to when he made the hand gestures after he went out, himself or Webber. If it was Webber he should get a real ass kicking. Jack forbes (talk) 14:55, 30 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Hear, hear!--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 15:34, 30 May 2010 (UTC)



You're a mess.
Do a Google search for the lyrics to the song. You should find a site that provides all the lyrics, even if the words are whispered--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 17:18, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

That would be a totally awesome answer if it wasn't the first thing anybody would think of and do. If you don't know the answer, leave it be. I just hope I never have a serious medical problem such a heart attack in your presence, the suggestion "Call 911. You should be able to get a ride in an ambulance, even if you can't speak." would be less than useful. 74.108.134.149 (talk) 02:07, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
 * What makes you think I'd suggest 911? Instead, I would just call my parish priest and have him come and toss some holy water around the joint, which normally does the trick during heart attacks, fits of demonic possession, nervous breakdowns, etc.; in point of fact, Father C's magic brew has even been known to cure gonorrhea! Truly and utterly AWESOME, wouldn't you say?!!!!--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 09:19, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
 * I would have to say, that would be pretty intense, next time I extract gonorrhea, I'll give you a quick call. 74.108.134.149 (talk) 19:59, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Don't post here anymore, find another playground to troll.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 06:19, 2 June 2010 (UTC)



Note
Note that Puritans are Protestants. The Union of Crowns was much earlier than the Union of Parliaments. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.177.254.83 (talk) 12:25, 3 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Puritans are a specific Protestant denomination, but it is incorrect to label them under the generic umbrella term Protestant; especially in light of the fact that King Charles I was an Anglican, hence Protestant. The Union of the Crowns did not make the English monarchy British, that occurred in 1707.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 12:31, 3 June 2010 (UTC)

New Tudor articles
Hello, Jeanne, just to let you know I'm concentrating on creating new Tudor articles at the moment and have just written Tickenhill Palace, The Wilton Circle, The Sidney Psalms, Thames Street (London), Edward North, 1st Baron North, Martin Bowes, Ladies Hall and Edmund Brydges, 2nd Baron Chandos. Hopefully, I'll be adding more soon. Best wishes, Boleyn (talk) 14:36, 3 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks for letting me know, I'll take a look at them. Oh, BTW, thank you for correcting typos on some of my Tudor-related articles.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 14:40, 3 June 2010 (UTC)

Back?
Hi Jeanne, thanks for your message on my talk page. I've not been away as such but I have been busy behand the scenes on Cornwall-related stuff. And busy, too, with the day job. Hope you are getting a tan! Andy F (talk) 09:19, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

Feeling Groovy
Like my new shoes? Can you dig these, baby??--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 15:26, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

Hi Barbie!
You wanna go for a ride?--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 09:18, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

Winifred Wells
Nice new article. For the first quote though, you say its from Pepys in the footnote but Gramont in the preceding text: which should it be? DrKiernan (talk) 14:45, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks for pointing that out. I have replaced Pepys with Gramont in the footnote.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 14:51, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

I have never been so angry in my life
I have come to hate this place. Its got so that everytime I open my fucking mouth some other editor jumps all over me. I really understand why good content editors are quitting in droves and others are accused of incivility. What the hell do people expect when editors who spend hours on the project get accused of being something they are not?! They make a comment which gets totally distorted...Ah, I had better shut up before I let loose with all my favourite curse words, and they ain't pretty....Just had to let off steam.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 06:34, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Hi Jeanne. Some of us find your openness about your views and opinions to be a breath of fresh air here - even when we (I) deeply disagree with some of those views, and also (sometimes) cringe a little when we can foresee what trouble that openness is likely to bring you into.  So, I hope you carry on bringing a bit of fun to the place - but remember to take care over what you say, and who you say it to!  Ghmyrtle (talk) 07:22, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
 * I still maintain that I was only stating facts, not making platitudes. Did you read what I wrote here: User talk:Sarah777? How was I condoning slavery? I was merely staing the FACTS. I always edit in a cool, unbiased manner, and here I am bloody being accused of racism, Holocaust denial. For fuck's sake, where do people get their bloody notions from?--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 07:31, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
 * I am now fervently of the opinion that being too nice at Wikipedia is akin to being an arsewipe. Civil yes, polite absolutely, but nice as in the 1969 Hippie-at-Woodstock peace, vacant smiles and "all you need is love" crap, NO WAY, JOSE. People will just try and kick the shit out of you.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 09:47, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
 * I read it - I guess I must condone slavery too. Not my fault though, I had a teacher (a Bostonian, damn Southerner) who taught us that The North was fighting against slavery, and the South was fighting for States' rights. Only solution I can offer is to walk away. Being a hippie only gets you so far (and give an inch, etc...) Turn your back and remain firmly on the moral high-ground. TFOWRidle vapourings 10:01, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
 * What are you saying, TFOWR! Are you advocating the return of slavery? I can't believe anyone in this day and age could...... Oops! I think I may have misinterpreted your post. ;) Jack forbes (talk) 10:20, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Well, it appears as if certain people wish to fight the War of Northern Aggression here at Wikipedia. Jesus fu..ing wept!--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 10:40, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Jeanne, I didn't mean to criticise you at all - I have the highest regard for your contributions to articles, which I think are wholly NPOV. I was just trying to make the point that, on talk pages, some editors have sensitivities, and if those sensitivities are prodded then outsiders can sometimes foresee that they will react....  Ghmyrtle (talk) 10:57, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes, but on the other hand, there are some editors who choose to interpret another's comment a certain way in order to launch a personal attack. I know you were not criticising me, and I appreciate the advice. I shall refrain from making statements or remarks which could be misunderstood by others.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 11:31, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
 * But don't stop being true to yourself!! Ghmyrtle (talk) 11:36, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Go with the flow, I was once accused of being a fascist. Humour will win the day, remember I'm a Marxist, of the Groucho kind. GoodDay (talk) 14:08, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
 * That's likely in the cards. Next thing he'll accuse me of being a time-traveller who gives assembly-line blow jobs to the SS.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 14:40, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Giggle giggle. GoodDay (talk) 14:43, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
 * One thing for sure is that I am never going near that page again lest I get dragged before an Inquisitional court.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 15:10, 8 June 2010 (UTC)


 * Hahahaha. GoodDay (talk) 15:25, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

Good luck with avoiding remarks which could be misleading to others. "Libel" is worth avoiding, I have discovered. ☺ Thank you for your supportive comments at my AN/I. I like the way you've done your room. Anthony (talk) 20:44, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
 * You're welcome, Anthony. It's so easy for one's comments to be misunderstood and totally taken out of context, just like the famous John Lennon Jesus remark. The problem is that editors do not take the time to thoroughly read another's text; instead they pick out key words and then misinterpret them, without having read the entire paragraph.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 06:32, 9 June 2010 (UTC)

Moon


I'm looking to see if there's any consensus for the neutral caption wording on Talk:Enceladus Photo text. I see you commented there and was wondering if the neutral wording I suggested was acceptable to you. Protection expires today and I don't want the edit war to start up again. Thanks! Dreadstar ☥  18:57, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
 * It sounds fine to me, Dreadstar. I honestly don't see how an article on a Saturnian moon could have turned into a British/Irish dispute; however, this is Wikipedia so anything is possible!--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 19:02, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
 * I completely agree, it seems crazy...but you hit the nail on the head: "this is Wikipeida so anything is possible"...even nutty things! Dreadstar  ☥  19:07, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

Charlotte & Jeanne Huguette
Bonjour Jeanne!

Please read my comment at.

Cordialement,

--Frania W. (talk) 14:04, 9 June 2010 (UTC)

Talk page disagreement
Jeanne, if someone I liked had a disagreement on my talk page with you I wouldn't want to bar either of you from my there, whomever I agreed with. Sarah hasn't done that, in fact she made a point of saying that you are always welcome. Don't let a spat with someone else stop you from chatting to Sarah in the future. Jack forbes (talk) 17:06, 9 June 2010 (UTC)

I'll be taking a week or two off after today, and I hope that while I'm gone you'll feel able to bring your humour to Sarah's talk page again. Life's too short, Jeanne. Jack forbes (talk) 17:23, 9 June 2010 (UTC)
 * I like Sarah and I enjoy posting there, however, I felt as if I were judged by an Inquisitional court.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 17:27, 9 June 2010 (UTC)
 * I honestly think Sarah misinterpreted your posts. I would give it a few days before calmly explaining things. Losing a friend on wiki over this doesn't seem right. Jeanne, you should hear some of the heated disagreements I have with friends in the real world over things like politics, sport etc. Some of them are really bitter arguments. The next time we see each other you would think there had been no argument. It's a storm in a tea cup concerning Sarah, Jeanne, although right now you won't feel that's the case. Jack forbes (talk) 17:36, 9 June 2010 (UTC)
 * For the time being I feel it's best I stay away from the page. In a week or two, I'll probably feel differently. Thanks for your help, Jack. As I said, I'm not annoyed with Sarah at all, but I don't feel confortable posting there at the moment.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 18:26, 9 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Don't swet it. GoodDay (talk) 22:29, 9 June 2010 (UTC)

JB, Jack has the correct take on the heated debate. You wrote: "It was wrong of you and I am deeply offended and hurt." While I won't call my angry declaration of being offended wrong of me, I will acknowledge the hurt you express. I, and certainly Sarah, did not write anything about you being unwelcome. For me to do so would be about as stupid a thing as I could conceive, Sarah I think would have the hide of anyone who could be so presumptuous. It's a facet of great character that she can weather just about any storm and can host and debate against very different views from her own, you know that. There's been a great vibe over there because of that very fact.

There are few better words to explain why I spoke up than those of Malcolm X: "If you don't stand for something you will fall for anything." No, I haven't found any reason to take back my outrage. It is after all the result of those nearly two score years of living in the middle of the terrible feelings, sadness and dysfunction that fed it so well...what I meant to portray as the crushing weight borne to this day. I read and re-read your response; I may not be welcome here, so I won't linger. As an offering of good faith, maybe you will enjoy a few minutes listening to a favorite song I think we may like in common – here's "Maggie McGill" with subtitles. I hope that will lessen the hurt, but for my part when it comes to offense that high sometimes it's "Don't get mad, get even." Best – Sswonk (talk) 05:32, 10 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your message, Sswonk. I'm glad you posted here. I think we should put the debate behind us. As the Stones would say, it's Yesterday's Papers. The medium of Internet can be awkward, as a debate online can easily get out of hand due to lack of physical contact between the two parties involved, and it's far easier for a person's words to be misconstrued. This reminds me of the John Lennon Jesus remark which journalists totally took out of context. Anyroad, I'll return to Sarah's page as it's a fun hang-out joint here at Wikipedia. Oh, you mentioned Maggie McGill. My favourite Doors songs are LA Woman, My Eyes Have Seen You, and Hyacinthe House. Cheers, Sswonk, and thanks again for your message.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 06:24, 10 June 2010 (UTC)

Thank spam!
This should distract you from that soccer thing, what you are all talking about above ;-) TFOWR 21:31, 11 June 2010 (UTC)

The World Cup has started today!
My bet is that South Africa will beat Mexico today. I haven't watched much of it, but from what I've seen, the former look like a very strong team, and of course they're on home territory!--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 14:57, 11 June 2010 (UTC)

So far:


 * South Africa - 1; Mexico - 1

Tonight:

Time to play, time to get it on!--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 18:15, 12 June 2010 (UTC)

England - 1; United States - 1

Germany - 4; Australia - 0 Although the USA team has better-looking players (Carlos Bocanegra, Landon Donovan), England is putting on a fine show. The Americans' performance is sadly lacklustre-Oh, I spoke too soon, Dempsey just scored a goal!--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 19:09, 12 June 2010 (UTC)
 * the english goal keeper is very unpopular at the moment...--David (talk) 12:40, 13 June 2010 (UTC)
 * I know. Howard, the American goalkeeper was much more alert than Green. Anyroad, I was disappointed in the match; I kept waiting for it to come to life, but alas, it never did wake up from its moribund state. Oh, David, I think you'll like my latest article: Sophie of Thuringia, Duchess of Brabant.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 12:44, 13 June 2010 (UTC)

Time to play, time to get it on:

Italy - 1; Paraguay - 1;

Thank you
Nice work on May Overthrow‎. Well done. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 12:58, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Thank you. I've asked another editor to add his input, seeing as he is familiar with Balkans history. It does need another source though, preferably Serbian.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 13:07, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

Eleanor and Valentina
Hello Jeanne, a believe a while back you created an article on Jeanne of Artois. I would like to create an article on her granddaughter Eleanor of Aragon, Queen of Cyprus and Eleanor's daughter-in-law Valentina Visconti, Queen of Cyprus and Valentina was sister to Taddea, Elisabetta, Caterina, Maddalena and Antonia children of Bernabò Visconti and Beatrice della Scala so she shouldn't be hard to work on since we created articles for most her siblings. Would you be interested in help me make articles for Eleanor and Valentina? Cheers--David (talk) 12:45, 13 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Sure. Go ahead and set it up, David.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 12:47, 13 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Will do I believe the two didnt get along very well and Peter II had to send Eleanor away to stop the arguments. By the way the article on Sophia is really good especially the picture of the statue. I'll start with Eleanor now--David (talk) 12:55, 13 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Thank you. I was thrilled to find the image over on Commons. I love articles with images.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 12:58, 13 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Ive translated all the articles about Eleanor and they all say the same things like how mean she was, how she tortured a pregnant mistress and how she supposedly commited adultary.--David (talk) 13:58, 13 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Ok, then you should get rid of the word said; otherwise you'll have to provide a ref for it.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 13:59, 13 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Will do, but looking theres no references for many related articles like her son, husband and other members of the cyprus royal family--David (talk) 14:06, 13 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Well the finished product Eleanor of Aragon, Queen of Cyprus now I'm in search of an image and I'll start Valentina--David (talk) 18:37, 13 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Shes finished! Valentina Visconti, Queen of Cyprus. I've noticed something Jeanne, Eleanor, Queen of Cyprus is very much like her ancestor Eleanor of Aquitaine, both lived to a very old age for medieval times, they both had their way with men, they exersized their own power and could start a war when they felt like it and their both called Eleanor! the resembelence is a bit much!--David (talk) 20:24, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
 * True. And they both were ruthless where their husbands' mistresses were concerned!--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 06:40, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

Thanks
Is it just text from sr.wiki. I will add more, and You check grammar. Is it OK? -- Bojan   Talk  13:37, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
 * It looks fine. I will check and fix the grammar, no problem. Congratulations on creating such an interesting article about an event that had far-reaching consequences, although nobody probably knew it at the time!--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 13:40, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

It was my mistake too. I wrote that in the first version of article May Overthrow. :) Thanks again. -- Bojan   Talk  13:47, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

The job is not done yet. I have few exams in next two weeks, so I'll take a short break. -- Bojan   Talk  14:05, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

Mary of Hungary, Governor of the Netherlands
Thank you for correcting the spelling! I am currently fascinated by her and I hope to get the article to the GA status soon. Elizabeth of Bosnia article has been put on hold because I haven't indicated page numbers in references and I've been somewhat lazy to finish adding page numbers. Anyway, I have a crazy idea: why don't you nominate the article about Princess Natalia of Montenegro for Did you know? Seeing it at the main page would be wonderful, don't you think? 19:04, 15 June 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm shy about nominating articles I've created for DYK. The Mary of Hungary article is interesting. Didn't she look a typical Habsburg?--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 05:59, 16 June 2010 (UTC)
 * There is no reason to be shy. But you have to nominate an article before it's five days old! Yes, poor Mary was a stereotypical Habsburg, a true daughter of Cymburgis of Masovia. After I'm done with her, I might expand the article about her aunt Margaret or articles about her sisters, Eleanor of France and Isabella of Denmark. I am particularly intrigued by Mary's and Isabella's interest for Lutheranism, an interest that caused so much worry to their stanuchly Catholic brothers. Surtsicna (talk) 12:17, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

Your note
Hi Jeanne, sorry I was too late to reply and help. I hope all is OK now. The article is definitely looking better. I am sure the princess will be on the front page soon. :) Regards, Crum375 (talk) 11:51, 18 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks, a bot fixed it. The problem creating this article was in finding available sources which are in English. There are plenty in Serbian-a language I cannot understand at all. I am glad the article has passed DYK. Thank you again for your help and advice, Crum375.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 11:56, 18 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Please, Jeanne, if there is anything I can translate for you, just let me know! Surtsicna (talk) 16:58, 19 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Thank you, I really do appreciate your help as the Serbian characters really add polish to the articles.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 16:59, 19 June 2010 (UTC)

Go Mexico!
Mexico - 2; France - 0; Way to go Mexico! Nice one.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 18:17, 18 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Luv Persida's curves. GoodDay (talk) 18:15, 19 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Balkan women are famous for them :P Surtsicna (talk) 18:32, 19 June 2010 (UTC)

Serbia
At the moment I'm passionately obssessed with 19th century Serbian royals; so fellow editors please understand if I wander into the Cyrillic alphabet on occassion.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 16:50, 19 June 2010 (UTC)

1960s dress
I noticed you used my only photo of Brian Jones (actually, the only free upload in all Wikipedia) in your article on 1960s fashion. I have uploaded close to 400 photos of musicians and began keeping a list of them on my userpage. It's below the tiny gallery I have of some of my favorites. It might be helpful if you wish to find photos with ease, though my alphabetization and spelling (obviously) are not good when typing fast or on my own sites. Hope that's helpful.--Leahtwosaints (talk) 16:40, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Oh thank you. Yes, I was so glad to finally find a free image of Brian to upload to the 60s fashion page seeing as the one on his infobox isn't free. I'll take a look at your page. Thanks again. --Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 16:58, 20 June 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Princess Anka Obrenović
<span style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"> — <b style="color:#060;">Rlevse</b> • Talk  • 18:03, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

Constance of Sicily, Queen of Jerusalem
Hi Jeanne have you seen my latest article. She married three very powerful men but she had no children he and one sad point is that her second husband was killed a day before their 10th wedding anniversery. cheers--David (talk) 15:29, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Nice article, David! You should do one on Alice of Ibelin, Lusignan's wife after Constance.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 09:04, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
 * I might but first I want to do one on Alice first wife of Leo IV and...COME ON ENGLAND!--David (talk) 15:58, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
 * I just did one on Alice of Ibelin!--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 08:56, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Well done Jeanne I think it was good that you found out about Alix's speech problem. I plan one from Leo IV's first wife Alice and his stepmother Jeanne of Anjou I'll be sure to tell you when they're done. Thanks--David (talk) 15:24, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
 * I've finished Jeanne of Anjou, now to start with her daughter-in-law Alice of Korikos--David (talk) 16:10, 26 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Jeanne of Anjou looks good. I have just finished another Cypriot queen: Helvis of Brunswick-Grubenhagen.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 19:07, 26 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Helvis looks fantastic Jeanne well done, didn't realise there was alot of information about her--David (talk) 10:59, 27 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Alice of Korikos is done--David (talk) 11:56, 27 June 2010 (UTC)

Germany-Ghana
Time to play, time to get it on!--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 18:21, 23 June 2010 (UTC) Germany - 1; Ghana - 0
 * Nice, friendly, fun match!--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 07:56, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Italy - 1; Slovakia - 3
 * La festa é finita.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 17:17, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Total wipeout, man.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 07:37, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
 * The USA is in the process of getting its ass kicked by Ghana.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 18:55, 26 June 2010 (UTC)

Reviewer stuff
I finally figured it out, with my edit to Stanley McCrystal. My edits to Bio-articles don't get delayed. GoodDay (talk) 21:27, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes, and if you've got protected articles that are on your watchlist, they'll let you know they need reviewing. It's a useful tool to have.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 07:58, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
 * 'Tis jolly good. GoodDay (talk) 20:15, 24 June 2010 (UTC)

Go Mexico!
Do you know what I find funny? When those commentators say that a certain match is historic or that a match will enter the history. Come on, how many people today care about results of medieval jousts? ;) Surtsicna (talk) 19:06, 27 June 2010 (UTC)
 * I agree, although the joust that killed King Henry II of France has not been forgotten! Anyway, I'm sorry Mexico lost.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 08:59, 28 June 2010 (UTC)

Server problems
I'm having major server problems today!--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 09:17, 28 June 2010 (UTC)

I'm so mad...
...that I'm coming back from retirement to show you this: Talk:Olimpia Maidalchini. En passent, I'm the IP. -- Jack1755 (talk) 06:50, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
 * As revenge, I'm contemplating e-mailing the House of Doria-Pamphili to inform it of wikipedia's treachery. Not only was a libellous statement accepted by the wikipedia community as fact, that 'fact' was featured on the main page for 4 million or so people to see...-- Jack1755 (talk) 07:06, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

Marie de Medici
Hello, Having just slightly edited this article I wonder why it would have been rated as B class when there were no references and the nearest item to a source was the Bibliography section. Also perhaps the lead should expand on the variant forms of her name with Medicis / Medici etc. Best wishes.--Felix folio secundus 12:18, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

Happy Birthday
Happy birthday, Jeanne. Hope you have a good one. I haven't had a birthday for a few years now, which is why I look so young. :) Jack forbes (talk) 14:29, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks Jack! When is your birthday, anyway?--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 14:32, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
 * December 17th. I should have been a Christmas baby but I arrived in this world a little early. I think I've been in shock ever since. Jack forbes (talk) 14:36, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
 * LOL! It's better not to be born on Christmas Day as less attention is given to the birthday celebrant than Jesus, who was actually born in February!--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 14:40, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Thank you, Surtsicna! How does one say thanks in Bosnian and Serbian?--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 17:08, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Hvala. But from what I've seen, native speakers of English simply can't pronounce it :) Surtsicna (talk) 21:43, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

Happy birthday Jeanne, ya sexy gal. GoodDay (talk) 20:10, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

Spain and Portugal
Time to play, time to get it on! Go Spain!--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 18:31, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Spain - 1; Portugal - 0;
 * I haven't been following the WC closely, are they now in the quarter-finals? GoodDay (talk) 21:36, 30 June 2010 (UTC)

Alicia
Hello Jeanne, Alicia does look very good well done! I would like to create an article on Philippa of Antioch, sister of Empress Maria, I need more info though. And yes it's sad but England played terrible. Cheers--David (talk) 15:45, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
 * She sounds interesting. I wish I knew whether or not Alicia had any children.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 17:12, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Medieval lands not say anything? If she had children they probably died young, Philippa was a mistress to the emperor (forgot his name) who killed her sister and nephew! By the way Jeanne happy birthday :)--David (talk) 18:44, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Thank you. Alicia died sometime after 1376. Nothing was recorded about her after that date, so it's possible she had offspring, and they weren't documented in the chronicles.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 18:48, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
 * I've made a start to Philippa of Antioch, I've found out she did marry but had no children--David (talk) 19:13, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Ah yes Marie, I did know about her I expanded her mothers article, didnt realise she was betrothed to the duke of brittany, well done Jeanne!--David (talk) 17:12, 30 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I hope there's an image of her somewhere.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 17:23, 30 June 2010 (UTC)
 * we'll find one I hope I'll have a look through user acoma's latest uploads--David (talk) 19:35, 30 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Philippa is finished--David (talk) 15:37, 2 July 2010 (UTC)

Stephanie of Armenia
Hello Jeanne, my latest article is Stephanie of Armenia, she and her husband tried to claim Armenia, if only she'd live a few more years it may have been a reality, she was the older half-sister of Isabella, Queen of Armenia. Thanks--David (talk) 14:16, 3 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Good article!--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 20:46, 4 July 2010 (UTC)

Jack
Hi Jeanne. Looks like we've lost Jack. Reckon he's serious this time. Daicaregos (talk) 16:46, 5 July 2010 (UTC)
 * What happened?--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 21:02, 5 July 2010 (UTC)
 * No idea. But it looks terminal, this time. Daicaregos (talk) 21:12, 5 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes, it sounds serious. I'm really upset to hear this as he was one of the nicest people at Wikipedia along with you and GoodDay. Why is everybody leaving?--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 21:21, 5 July 2010 (UTC)
 * I can't say that I blame him. I may do the same myself, soon. It just doesn't seem worth the hassle. Having to endure all the constant sniping, put downs and people gaming the system. It's really depressing and life's just too short for all that bollocks. Do people want to portray the truth, or just their version of it in order to belittle their 'opponents'? Daicaregos (talk) 21:51, 5 July 2010 (UTC)
 * One has to go with the flow at Wikipedia. I put up with so much crap in my real life that the put-downs and snide remarks I sometimes receive at Wikipedia seem like fulsome praise in comparison.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 21:56, 5 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Just a personal slant on it, but you ask "Why is everybody leaving?" There is little worse than subjecting oneself to a feeling of helplessness, it really makes no sense. But as has been mentioned, the lengths gone to i.e. the "gaming" to prove a point or really to vanquish a perceived opponent make it appear hope- and help-less at times. I limit myself these days, primarily to avoid the AfD/VillagePump/policy arguments I found myself falling into. I would tend to disagree that "one has to go with the flow at Wikipedia" ;) as that conflicts with the concept of being bold. But, my experiences have often been negative because of the cliquishness, and the milquetoasts-cum-dragons who let out all of their aggressions and frustrations in this venue, behind personas; the academic world doesn't work that way. So, it isn't surprising that this work many times gets thrown in directions not fulfilling the effort it takes, by those who are not in it for the ability to educate and add to knowledge, a sort of punk element that is more impressed by the scaring off of others than honestly attempting to work with them. Make sense? Sswonk (talk) 04:02, 6 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Absolutely.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 21:10, 7 July 2010 (UTC)

Spain-Germany
Spain - 1; Germany - 0--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 21:10, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Missed you. Welcome back. Daicaregos (talk) 21:13, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm on my summer holdays; I've transferred to the beach, hence less editing. Wikpedia for all it's drama, cannot measure up to swimming in the warm, azure seas under a fierce Med sun! At the moment I am on a public computer.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 21:18, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Sounds lovely. Lucky you. Enjoy. Daicaregos (talk) 21:20, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Thank you, Dai.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 21:23, 7 July 2010 (UTC)

Matilda de Prendergast
Question: Where did the information come from that she was the true mother of Juliana Fitzgerald? I looked at the sources below and they have conflicting statements, plus you cannot access Google Books book on Medieval Ireland pg. 202 -- it does not show up online. The peerage site lists her under Emma Longspee using the same sources cited on the wiki page. Just wondering because this is news to me. This is the page I found the info on - http://thepeerage.com/p358.htm#i3573 -- just wondering if this is new information that just came out or what.... let me know. Meg E. McGath (talk) 06:30, 10 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Douglas A. Richardson made the discovery in 2000 based on extant documents which show that Juliana FitzGerald's father, Lord Offaly, married Emmeline Longespee in 1273, which was 10 years after Juliana's birth; besides, Emmeline's heir was her sister Ela's granddaughter, Maud La Zouche, which offers further proof that she had no descendants of her own. The Complete Peerage, Vol. VII, p.200 has since been altered to reflect the fact that Maud de Prendergast was indeed Juliana's mother. Peerage.com just needs to be updated. It'S our job as editors to constantly check the Complete Peerage updates, lest we write outdated information.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 20:54, 11 July 2010 (UTC)

Joanna, Duchess of Durazzo
Hey Jeanne, my latest article is Joanna, Duchess of Durazzo. I'm surprised she didn't already have her own article, being a Duchess in her own right. Cheers--David (talk) 09:58, 10 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Good article, David.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 21:53, 11 July 2010 (UTC)

Vacation, I assume?
Ye have been away for 3 days, enjoy the summer. GoodDay (talk) 15:30, 10 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Today was boiling HOT-even the water, which I rarely got out of!--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 21:25, 11 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Ya know how to make water holy? Boil the hell out of it (hahaha). GoodDay (talk) 20:26, 12 July 2010 (UTC)
 * When you're hot you're HOT!--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 21:26, 12 July 2010 (UTC)

May Overthrown
Hi. I have aided a lot of new information. Can You check my English, please? --<font style="background: black" face="Courier" color="white"> Bojan  <font style="background: white" face="Courier" color="black"> Talk  09:28, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

request of helping for Our Lady of Coromoto♥ thank you so much♥--Lodewijk Vadacchino (talk) 15:40, 15 July 2010 (UTC)
Buon Pomeriggio a lei, la scrivo se cortesemente potrebbe correggere i miei errori grammaticali e di sintassi, come lei ben sa il mio inglese è puramente scolastico ed è andato perduto negli anni a causa dell'apprendimento dello spagnolo. Io sono un devoto di questa Madonna...soprattutto visto che l'anno passato mi ha fatto una Grazia di stare ancora in vita...quando ero vicino alla morte certa...nell'attasa di un suo gentile aiuto la ringrazio in anticipo come sempre per la sua gentilezza, e le mando una Benedizione con tutto il mio cuore♥, qualora avesse bisogno di traduzioni in napoletano, spagnolo e siciliano non esiti a chiedere, grazie ancora♥--Lodewijk Vadacchino (talk) 15:40, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

Say Hello To The Sun For Me.
Enjoying your holiday, Jeanne? We have the sun here in Glasgow. Can't see it, but I'm pretty sure it's there somewhere. :) (Jack forbes) 86.181.188.234 (talk) 10:18, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
 * I spend everyday at the beach, swimming in the Med! Yes, I'm enjoying myself. Off to get a beer now. Take care, Jack.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 21:17, 18 July 2010 (UTC)

Martha of Armagnac
Hello Jeanne, hope your enjoying your holiday! I've just finished Martha of Armagnac, the first wife of John I of Aragon, she died nine years before her husband succeeded and his second wife was the mother of Yolande of Aragon. All the best--David (talk) 14:38, 18 July 2010 (UTC)

May Overthrow
Hi. Can you go through my latest addition? I think the article is now finished. What do you think, does it deserve GA status? --<font style="background: black" face="Courier" color="white"> Bojan  <font style="background: white" face="Courier" color="black"> Talk  12:58, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

The Special Barnstar
Came across your userpage by accident, but thank god I did! It is just SO MUCH FUN to read your page. And all the photos... It's like going through a photoalbum, as well as going through history. It really created a smile upon my face, seeing you through the decades (and hairfases, btw, red hair really looks good on you), your children (they turned out to be drop-dead gorgeous!), and the sceneries seen on those photos. Maybe there are people who reckon your UP as too long, but sweetie darlin': keep it up, for it rulezz!!! :D So to conclude everyting, I proudly award you with The Special Barnstar! :) Robster1983 (talk) 13:30, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

Lady Hamilton's birthdate
Hi Jeanne. I was surprised to see this edit. After centuries of not knowing exactly when Lady H was born, we suddenly seem to know; this surprises me, I must say. Do you have a cite for that date, 26 April 1761? Sceptically yours. -- <font face="Papyrus">Jack of Oz  <font face="Papyrus"> ... speak! ...   04:24, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Norah Lofts gives this date in her bio on Emma. An alternative DOB for Emma is 15 April, however, Emma celebrated it on 26 April.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 20:39, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks, Jeanne. I'm still a little sceptical, though.  Could you tell me a little more of what Lofts actually says in her book?  Was it an unqualified statement of fact, supported by documentary evidence, or was it a date she considers most likely on the balance of probabilities or soemthing like that?  I see some other sites state this as a possible birthday.  Cheers.  --  <font face="Papyrus">Jack of Oz  <font face="Papyrus"> ... speak! ...   03:40, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm on holiday at the moment so I don't have the book with me; as soon as I get home I'll quote what Lofts actually says in her book.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 22:07, 1 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks, Jeanne. Looking forward to enlightenment.  --  <font face="Papyrus">Jack of Oz  <font face="Papyrus"> ... speak! ...   08:33, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

Infantas of Aragon
Hello Jeanne, hope you're having a good holiday! At the moment I'm focusing on the Infantas of Aragon here are a few articles I've done so far: Constance of Aragon, Queen of Majorca, Joanna of Aragon, Countess of Ampurias and Teresa d'Entença. I plan to write one for Joanna of Aragon, older sister of Yolande of Aragon. All the best--David (talk) 16:06, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

Still on holiday?
Still on holiday, Jeanne? You live the life of Reilly so you do. Still, must get boring on the beach all day and partying all night. Yeah, must be boring. Hmmm :) Jack 1314 (talk) 22:11, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Tiring yes, boring absolutely NOT. Didn't some 20th century philosopher once say Life is a beach? Or maybe it was The Beach Boys who said it!--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 22:18, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Think of all the fun you're missing, though. The disputes over British Isles, or is that Britain and Ireland, the disagreements over Derry, or is that Londonderry, etc etc. GoodDay (talk) 22:23, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Don't worry, the summer is barrelling full-speed ahead to a rapid conclusion and I'll soon be back into the Wikipedia groove, BI disputes and all. Actually, the weather was overcast today, but the water was hot!--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 22:31, 5 August 2010 (UTC)

Re:Thank you
You are só very welcome! I really loved 'going through' your profile, it really made me smile. It even made me so curious about decades even before I was born (God, how much I must have missed). Is your profile something that was created over the years, or is it something that came to be in quite a short period? Robster1983 (talk) 20:44, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
 * I have added a lot to my userpage since I came to Wikipedia in April 2008. I'm glad you like it.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 19:52, 10 August 2010 (UTC)

Unreferenced BLPs
Hello Jeanne boleyn! Thank you for your contributions. I am a bot notifying you on behalf of the the unreferenced biographies team that 1 of the articles that you created  is currently tagged as an Unreferenced Biography of a Living Person. The biographies of living persons policy requires that all personal or potentially controversial information be sourced. In addition, to ensure verifiability, all biographies should be based on reliable sources. If you were to bring this article up to standards, it would greatly help us with the current Category:All_unreferenced_BLPs article backlog. Once the article is adequately referenced, please remove the unreferencedBLP tag. Here is the article:

Thanks!--DASHBot (talk) 08:03, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
 * 1) Salvatore Termini -

Lady Hamilton's birthdate
Hello, Jeanne. You know what I'm here for, I don't have to spell it out. (And no, it has nothing to do with any cosmic merging of the physical and the spiritual.) :)  --  <font face="Papyrus">Jack of Oz  <font face="Papyrus"> ... speak! ...   12:22, 24 August 2010 (UTC)
 * You're not? And here I was thinking I was a smouldering temptress like Emma Hamilton. Oh well....I'll ref the date when I go home from my holiday.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 18:33, 24 August 2010 (UTC)
 * You are undoubtedly just such a temptress, and any normal man would be out of his mind not to succumb to such irresistible womanliness. Unfortunately (for you, not for me), I wear my abnormality as a badge of honour.  Also, my lovers tend to have names like Matthew, Mark, Luke and John, and I like consistency so I won't be breaking that pattern any time soon.  :)  Please continue to enjoy your holiday, without further interruption.   --  <font face="Papyrus">Jack of Oz  <font face="Papyrus"> ... speak! ...   20:19, 24 August 2010 (UTC)

I'm back
Back in the Wikipedia groove......The waves gave me a rousing farewell yesterday! One almost claimed me forever.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 07:18, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Welcome back! Wikipedia was quite a lonely place without you. I've had a terrible experience with waves myself ;) The Spy Who Came in from the Cold (talk) 13:41, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks Surtsicna. My experiences with the waves was NOT terrible-in fact it was exciting and most fun!!! The water was boiling hot as well.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 13:48, 26 August 2010 (UTC)


 * "There were birds in the sky. But, I never heard them singing. No, I never heard them at all, 'til there was you". GoodDay (talk) 13:57, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
 * And your bird can sing but you DO get me.....--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 13:58, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Yummy, yummy. GoodDay (talk) 14:02, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Is that your stomach growling or you, GoodDay! Tut tut, a man must eat to keep up with me.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 14:05, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm not thinking of my tummy, giggle giggle. GoodDay (talk) 14:05, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Hmm, I am in the general vicinity, however, give or take a few inches to the south! LOL.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 14:09, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Fear not, I know the direction & what to do when I'm there. GoodDay (talk) 14:10, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Still, it's easy to get lost in the woods.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 14:13, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
 * I've never got lost in the woods before. GoodDay (talk) 14:16, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

Hiya lovely. Good to have you back.. . you've been missed. Hope you had a nice time by the seaside. Do you have any plans, or are you doing a 'take it as it comes'? Daicaregos (talk) 15:38, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Hi Dai. No, I've no plans for new articles, I'll just take it as it comes.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 15:41, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Well, I see Evan Vaughan Anwyl has just been nominated for WP:AFD. Any thoughts there (I have no feelings on it either way)? Daicaregos (talk) 15:48, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

Welcome back, Jeanne. That was one long holiday you had there. I'm still a little bit jealous. If your not sure who I am don't worry. I don't know who I am anymore. :) Jack1297 (talk) 15:44, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
 * I've a wee idea who ye are. And yes, my seaside holiday was great, if a little tiring! (Swimming and late hours)--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 15:46, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
 * I think you have more than a wee idea who I am.:) Anyway, it is good to see you back as you've been missed around here. Jack1297 (talk) 15:49, 26 August 2010 (UTC)


 * Now, where's that bottle of champers. Dai, GoodDay, any spare bottles of champagne? Jack1297 (talk) 16:01, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
 * My beach holiday can be adequately summed up in four words: Hot water, hot waiter.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 16:59, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Hey Jeanne, good for you. Does that explain the late nights? Daicaregos (talk) 18:39, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Absolutely.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 09:14, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

To Dai & Jack: Grrr, she's my gal. GoodDay (talk) 13:05, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Perhaps, GoodDay, perhaps. But does ' she ' know that? Daicaregos (talk) 14:27, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Si. GoodDay (talk) 15:14, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

Jeanne of Valois (1351–1371)
Hey Jeanne it's great to see you back! I've just finished an article on Jeanne of Valois daughter of Philip VI of France, she nearly married John I of Aragon but died. Thanks--David (talk) 12:56, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

List of Manx consorts
Can you take a look at this new article I made? Do you think there were actually Queens of Mann? --Queen Elizabeth II&#39;s Little Spy (talk) 17:15, 5 September 2010 (UTC)

Communication Breakdown
I am having computer problems, which is why I have been absent so long at Wikipedia.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 16:44, 10 September 2010 (UTC)

Krakatoa 2010
A freak power surge and both my PCs did a Krakatoa! This is why I have not edited here for a while. Hopefully everything has been fixed!--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 20:14, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Ah hah, that's where you've been. PS: luv the belly exposure. GoodDay (talk) 13:43, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Oh dear, GoodDay don't tell me you have a fetish for navels?!--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 09:27, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

Agnes of Aquitaine, wife of Ramiro I of Aragon
Hello Jeanne, hope you're good. I have recently created an article on Agnes, Queen of Aragon (above), even though it is only short I found it hard to word it since her identity is disputed, do you think it's any good? Also I think your article on songs that represent the decades is very good well done! cheers--David (talk) 16:57, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks, David. I just created this article: Beatrice of Montferrat but it isn't finished yet. Could you take a look at it for me, please? I have not been able to access Medieval Lands today.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 08:52, 30 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Hi Jeanne, you've made a good start on Beatrice, Medieval lands doesn't have anymore information than what you have already used. I added the names of her grandparents--David (talk) 14:50, 30 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Thank you David.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 15:29, 30 September 2010 (UTC)
 * No problem, I also see myself as a Catherine de' Medici type of editor having followed your guide--David (talk) 16:52, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
 * I am a mixture of Catherine de Medici and Anne Boleyn.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 08:23, 2 October 2010 (UTC)



Link
Here's the link Jeanne, I know the images they find are great I often browse through I even sent Acoma a message a while back saying about how much me appreciate their images. btw their wikipedia account is Acomax--David (talk) 14:45, 5 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks David, that's a goldmine! Are more images added to on a regular basis?--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 05:46, 6 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes images are added on a regular basis, there are many unexplored images from early on though that I'd like to look at, Acoma even uploaded a Bohemian chronicle not long ago which I thought was fantastic as I had not seen the full piece before--David (talk) 16:01, 6 October 2010 (UTC)

Isabella Markham
Hi Jeanne, their a 2 dab links on the article you just created John Harrington one is linked here the other I linked to here and William Herbert, I think I have fixed the first one but am not sure which page the Herbert chap should link to, could you throw your eye to the one I fixed and see if it is correct and link the Herbert one to the correct page thanks. Mo ainm ~Talk  07:57, 6 October 2010 (UTC)
 * The dabs have both been fixed. Thanks Mo ainm.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 09:04, 6 October 2010 (UTC)

Welsh consorts
Hey Jeanne, hows it been! I was just wondering if you know anything about Welsh consorts of the Kingdoms of Gwynedd, Deheubarth, Morgannwg and Powys. I already found most of the consorts of Gwynedd after Owain Gwynedd's reign.--Queen Elizabeth II&#39;s Little Spy (talk) 00:42, 7 October 2010 (UTC)
 * I haven't a clue about any of them really, apart from Edith of Mercia, who was a Welsh consort before she married Harold Godwinson, but I know little about the others. I'm sorry I cannot help you here.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 16:56, 7 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Please give your opinion on Talk:Miguel da Paz, Prince of Asturias.--Queen Elizabeth II&#39;s Little Spy (talk) 01:47, 9 October 2010 (UTC)

Good Morning, Good Night
I often notice you starting up just as I am thinking about turning in. Have you always been this early a riser? Just curious. . . Bielle (talk) 05:47, 7 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes, since my kids started school. I have to get up at 6.30 for my youngest, who's the only one still in school.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 15:21, 7 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Yikes! It's been probably a decade or more since I saw 6:30 from the day side -except for catching planes. Bielle (talk) 17:28, 7 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Lucky you. I wish I could catch a plane out of here.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 04:13, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
 * If "here" for you is somewhere in Italy, then I have 4 friends excited to be catching a plane out to there this week. It is all a matter of perspective. Mind you, if I lived in Europe, I'd be on a train before a plane, and it would be at some civilized hour. Bielle  (talk) 04:44, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
 * I love travelling by train-watching the countryside flash by.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 12:45, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Ya know what I do when I can't sleep? I stay awake. GoodDay (talk) 14:13, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Haven't you tried counting sheep?--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 14:32, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
 * They bah, bah too loud. GoodDay (talk) 14:37, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
 * In that case try counting fish; they aren't as noisy.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 14:42, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Okie Dokie. GoodDay (talk) 15:00, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
 * On the other hand, counting sharks may not be conducive to getting a good night's sleep.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 15:03, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Nope, it wouldn't be. GoodDay (talk) 15:33, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Oh when that shark bites with his teeth, babe.....--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 06:57, 9 October 2010 (UTC)

My daughter the radical
My daughter took part in a demonstration today against the Italian Minister of Education. Oh nooooo, I'm the mother of a radical.......!!!--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 12:48, 8 October 2010 (UTC)

Urraca of Castile, Queen of Navarre
Hi Jeanne, I've just finished my article on Urraca, she was an illegitimate daughter of King Alfonso but I think he believed in her so much he let her rule Asturias for a while. Who said illegitimate children were useless to a monarch?--David (talk) 17:13, 10 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Henry II of England actually preferred his illegitimate son to his legitimate ones, much to the fury of Eleanor of Aquitaine!--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 09:34, 11 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Explains why they were at eachother's throats alot. I believe that Eleanor was the greatest Queen of England due to her personality and ability to rule--David (talk) 18:48, 11 October 2010 (UTC)
 * She was definitely an extraordinary woman. Too bad we don't know what she looked like.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 12:25, 12 October 2010 (UTC)

DYK: Isabella Markham?
Hello, Jeanne boleyn. I have nominated your new article Isabella Markham for DYK on MainPage. You can see the nomination here. DYK clerks always ask for footnotes in articles, at least one per paragraph. If you're interested in seeing your work linked from MainPage as part of DYK, please add more footnotes to this article, especially for the part about where she met her husband. Many thanks. --PFHLai (talk) 23:07, 11 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the nomination. I have added more refs and footnotes. How does it look now?--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 04:27, 12 October 2010 (UTC)

Serbia-Italy football match
I just made a minor edit. I can't wait to see it on the main page. Anyway, I see you've realised why the Serbs are hardly the most popular people in the Balkans :D Surtsicna (talk) 15:37, 13 October 2010 (UTC)
 * It was an ugly event and the Serbian football players showed poor judgement by displaying the Three-finger salute (Serbian). I was afraid had the Italians scored a goal there would have been a riot inside the stadium, with people hurt. Nationalism has no place in sports or music.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 15:46, 13 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Awful. Were you there or were you watching it on TV? Have you heard about Belgrade "anti-gay" riot? Surely, that's enough said. I know the salut :( Surtsicna (talk) 17:28, 13 October 2010 (UTC)
 * I watched it on TV. Yes, I saw the Belgrade anti-gay riots on the news. I just saw that the police in Genoa have arrested the tattoed ringleader of the football hooligans. It's almost certain the two events are indeed connected.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 17:40, 13 October 2010 (UTC)

Algernon Capell, 2nd Earl of Essex
I need your help. There is a person who I had been having a discussion on the Tudors Wiki about her supposed ancestor Thomas. She says that he is a son of the 2nd Earl of Essex and Mary Bentinck. I have checked multiple sources.. and they all confirm that there is no Thomas that was a son of this couple that went to America. She will not stop putting this person back up on the real wiki page. Is there a way to stop this from happening?? I know who she is.. she tried putting him up with no source and now she tried putting up a real source but obviously she doesn't know what she's doing and messed up all my work from yesterday. She put up the National Dictionary, but there is no link online for whichever National Dictionary she is talking about. I have checked over 10 sources.. and done multiple searches online and there is NO Thomas showing up. Her name is misserma -- this is just getting out of hand as she will continue to put it back up time and time again. I have links to online sources... she does not. I mean if this person was the son of an Earl surely he would be listed somewhere but he is not.. since you know a lot about the Tudors, etc. I thought maybe you could help me out on this. She is only doing this because she wants to prove that she's related to Mary Boleyn, which from my research she is not. Since you are really up on your Boleyn heritage, I thought you could help. Here are a few links that I have used.. http://thepeerage.com/p1368.htm#i13677 http://www.cracroftspeerage.co.uk/online/content/Essex1661.htm http://www.absoluteastronomy.com/topics/Algernon_Capell,_2nd_Earl_of_Essex http://www.geneall.net/U/per_page.php?id=234443 even this site... http://www.stirnet.com/main/index.php?option=com_wrapper&Itemid=79&startUrl=http://www.stirnet.com/HTML/genie/british/bb4ae/bentinck1.htm  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Meg E. McGath (talk • contribs) 21:20, 14 October 2010 (UTC)
 * If this person persists in putting unsourced info in Wikipedia articles contact an administrator. Wikipedia is about verifiability not truth, so the onus is on him/her to supply the proof.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 06:54, 15 October 2010 (UTC)

A Storm is threatening.....
Uh oh, I hear the menacing growl of thunder coming from the mountains, which are crowned in masses of undulating grey clouds. If the storm gets any closer I'll need to unplug my PC.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 14:08, 15 October 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Isabella Markham
<span style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"> — <b style="color:#060;">Rlevse</b> • Talk  • 18:02, 15 October 2010 (UTC)

Thank You
Hello Jeanne, thank you for your help on Urraca it is well appreciated, it's not often I get such a subject for an article. Cheers again--David (talk) 10:26, 17 October 2010 (UTC)
 * You're welcome. I'm always glad to be of help!--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 14:19, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

Reality TV era
When will this sad era in TV end? Now we've got Sarah Palin's Alaska. It's bad enough Bristol Palin & Levi Johnson are making their lives public. GoodDay (talk) 23:36, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

Chocolates
I knew you were still talking to me, but here's a box of chocolates anyway. You'll notice the empty one. I thought I would test it for you first. :) Jack 1958 (talk) 15:08, 18 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Ooh, I love chocolates, especially the ones with creamy centres. Thank you, Jack.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 15:22, 18 October 2010 (UTC)

Sybyl
Took a quick look at your latest Jeanne. Is her mam the famous Nest, the slapper, or was that someone else of the same name? Noticed the article wasn't over-blessed with references. There are a few to be had here. It needs to explain why she is particularly notable though. Was she? Daicaregos (talk) 20:50, 18 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the refs, Dai. How does the article look now?--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 06:31, 19 October 2010 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Elizabeth Knollys
Hello! Your submission of Elizabeth Knollys at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Yoninah (talk) 13:06, 19 October 2010 (UTC)

Flag of California
Hmm, I often suspected that you were a California nationalist, hahaha. GoodDay (talk) 15:02, 19 October 2010 (UTC)
 * The bear is now out of the bag...hahahahahhahahahahahha--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 15:04, 19 October 2010 (UTC)
 * By the way, how do we get out of this orange box? GoodDay (talk) 15:06, 19 October 2010 (UTC)
 * We don't. We're stuck in here for eternity.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 15:08, 19 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Ahem! Yeah, that might be my fault. Been trying to fix it for you but no luck so far. Jack 1958 (talk) 16:29, 19 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Fixed! Jack 1958 (talk) 16:49, 19 October 2010 (UTC)

Hello from Jack forbes
Hello, Jeanne!. Just thought I'd say hello. :) Jack forbes (talk) 15:59, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Hi Jack! Glad to see the forbes attached!--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 16:08, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Yeah, feel like my old self again. Check out GoodDays talk page, Jeanne. Jack forbes (talk) 16:10, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

Sibyl of Neufmarche
Hiya Jeanne, You asked me to take a look at Sibyl of Neufmarche (it was only a couple of days ago, but it's archived already!). As before, these are meant as constructive criticism:


 * The first thing I noticed was that Sibyl's notibility is not established in the lead. Other than being a 'nob' (nothing notable there) and being responsible for the life or death of her tennants/peasants, why did she do that warrants an article on her?
 * Place 	of birth. There is no place I know of, or could find, called Aberhonwy. However, in Welsh Brecon is known as Aberhonddu. The sources undoubtedly mean 'Aberhonwy (otherwise known as) Brecon, Wales'.


 * Why is she Sibyl of Neufmarche rather than Sibyl de Neufmarche


 * From where did the 'de Neufmarche' name derive. Did she have close family from Neufmarche?


 * Nest is not a common name. I know of a Nest who seems to have been quite 'popular'. Were they related?


 * Re: Nest (or Nesta) see here Gerald of Wales deserves a mention. There is so little contemporary documentation, you may as well use what little there is.


 * Citations go after the punctuation (see: “was a wealthy Cambro-Norman heiress[1],”). I prefer them after a full stop, as they're not so distracting, and it shows the whole sentence is cited.


 * “described as having been one of the greatest in south Wales." Why was she one of the greatest? One of the wealthiest? Or one of the best at being wealthy


 * She seems to have been 'well'-connected with the Norman thugs. And she lived during the time of The Anarchy (I would definitely mention The Anarchy for context) What effect did this have on her?


 * Can you find any images?


 * Where did she live? Before her marriage, after her marriage and after she was widowed.


 * How did she treat her tennants? How did her tennants view her (I'm guessing this won't be recorded).


 * If any of your information has been derived online, it is much better to link the citation so that readers are able to verify it from the source.


 * Llanthony Priory needs more identification. i.e. Llanthony Priory, an Augustinian priory in the Vale of Ewyas, in what is now Monmouthshire. Unless it refers to Llanthony Secunda Priory.


 * What property did Sibyl donate to Llantony Priory?


 * Did she endow any other abbey or monastery?


 * Some discussion of the 'Norman empire' is warranted as (p.147)


 * Gerald of Wales again (here).


 * This source says Sibyl's dad “fought under William the Conqueror, William Rufus and Henry I.” He also murdered Rhys ap Tewdwr, it seems. All worth a mention for context. Rhys' daughter was also Nest (see above)


 * That Miles/Sibyl inherited p. 43) 'sometime before 1128' should be mentioned.


 * I think what you imply (here: “Sibyl's marriage was advantageous to King Henry as it had been one of many such matrimonial alliances which had assisted him in transforming "the map of territorial power in south-east Wales".") is Henry taking control of the Marches through strategic betrothals to his “new men”. But is isn't very clear. Miles is noted  as “one of the king's new men”. From the family's point of view, the betrothal effectively disinherits the de Neufmarche line.


 * Could you use this? “The terminology is suggestive, for the king gave the daughter as if he were making a grant of land …” and (Gerald of Wales again) the brother was passed over because “his mother claimed untruthfully that that he was not a legitimate child of his parents' marriage.”

Enough now. Of course, for some of the above points it won't be possible to find an answer. But there may be examples of others in the same position that can be aluded to. Let me know how you get on, if you have any questions and if you want me to look at it again. Good luck. Daicaregos (talk) 17:21, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Elizabeth Knollys
<span style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"> — <b style="color:#060;">Rlevse</b> • Talk  • 06:02, 22 October 2010 (UTC)

Thank You
Thank you Jeanne, although it is my fourth article to be put on DYK it is rare. BTW I'm sure Katy Perry was singing about you as she said in an interview, it's not about those with the fake body and hair (Hollywood load) it's about the true California girls, there's something in the water they drink..What was in your water back home? lol--David (talk) 16:10, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Which were your other DYKs?--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 16:15, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
 * There all on my user page I've given them there own section now--David (talk) 16:19, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
 * I was wondering Jeanne it you'd be interested in helping me doan article on Eleanor of Aquitaine maternal grandmother Dangereuse de L' Isle Bouchard?--David (talk) 14:47, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes, that sounds interesting. Have you started it yet?--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 11:42, 22 October 2010 (UTC)
 * I've started it, I've laid down the basics--David (talk) 15:23, 22 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Hi Jeanne, as you can see I've been working on Dangereuse, but I don't know what became of her after the death of Duke William, any ideas?--David (talk) 08:32, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
 * David, I inquired about her over at Reference Desk/Humanities. An editor provided me with some exellent sources.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 08:34, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
 * I've looked Jeanne, thank you for your enquieries these books are fantastic! But however, none of them explain Dangereuse's life after William's death. They have been able to fill in gaps during her marriage and affair--David (talk) 09:25, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Then the article will just have to say that nothing further was recorded about Dangereuse following William's death.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 09:41, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Well she's finished for now--David (talk) 12:50, 23 October 2010 (UTC)

Are you sure you're not Swedish or Danish??!
I stumbled upon here and was physically SHOCKED to see how strikingly similar to a Swedish/Danish friend of mine you looked!! I was, GOSH! She looks Lenore! And so on. Well, when you were younger! As she's 20. Well, at least she knows what she might look like when she's a bit older! --Τασουλα (Shalom!) (talk) 03:39, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
 * As far as I know I've no Danish or Swedish blood unless you include my very distant Viking ancestors! Cheers!--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 06:11, 24 October 2010 (UTC)

Good morning
Good morning, Jeanne. Are you watching the Grand Prix today? Jack forbes (talk) 06:04, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes. I'm just waiting for the rain to stop so they can get the show on the road! It's raining here as well...sigh....--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 06:09, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Their off! Vettel for this race and Webber for the championship I reckon. Jack forbes (talk) 06:11, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Yeah but with the safety car in the vanguard.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 06:15, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Red flag. What a bore. I could have stayed in my bed. Jack forbes (talk) 06:18, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
 * It's a drag.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 06:25, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
 * The race started with a red flag but finished with the red CAR out in front!!! Wow Whoo! Go Alonso!--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 15:14, 24 October 2010 (UTC)

Sex symbol of the season
Has anyone got a problem with my choice?! Comments?--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 13:11, 24 October 2010 (UTC)

Award
I have created a new award at Wikipedia. It is known as the Margaret of Anjou award for editors who reach a compromise during edit-wars.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 11:48, 25 October 2010 (UTC)

Your next article?
Have you thought about starting an article on a more recent consort of nobility? Ghmyrtle (talk) 13:31, 25 October 2010 (UTC)
 * I once did an article on this royal consort: Sable Starr but it was speedily deleted as non-notable, and a possible liability as I mentioned names of her conquests.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 14:14, 25 October 2010 (UTC).

Another computer scare
Thought my PC was broken again; I couldn't get the thing to boot all afternoon.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 17:22, 27 October 2010 (UTC)

Keith
Just been watching a BBC Culture Show special on Keith Richards. Great stuff. Jeez, he ain't no teenager now. He looks like Yoda. But he's still the man. And still full of life. Daicaregos (talk) 18:59, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Been watching the same programme (missed the start). Yoda looks like him, I think Keith is a little older. Jack forbes (talk) 19:02, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Keith is a classic anti-conformist just like Jim Morrison and myself.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 04:42, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
 * And a great musician. Daicaregos (talk) 10:55, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Absolutely. His genius is best heard on Gimme Shelter, Stray Cat Blues, and Country Honk. Mick Taylor was pretty good on the Sticky Fingers LP, but he lacked Keith's flair.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 11:26, 29 October 2010 (UTC)

Sibyl of Neufmarche

 * I see you've moved off to various other articles, like a Wikipedia butterfly. Have you given up on Sibyl?
 * I added the template as a reminder to find one. I'm sure I saw one of the sources saying Bernard had signed a document in latin. I'll try to find it.
 * I removed the reference to Bernard's dad. It didn't seem that notable without an article, oe even any information on him. Do you have anything about him that may be worth adding?
 * What does the reference in “Cawley, Medieval Lands, Wales” say about the priory donation. Do you have a link to the book, I couldn't find it on Google Books? Are there any other details of it. The two refs disagree on their dates, unless they were separate donations
 * I'm still working on the references.
 * I changed (Edith of Mercia) to Ealdgyth (Edith of Mercia), and Harold II to Harold Godwinson, as the kings of England weren't numbered until William the Bastard. Are you happy with these changes, and with similar changes to the Ancestry section (looks good, by the way)?
 * Talking of William, he had completely subjugated England withing 4 years of the invasion. Hence the sobriquet 'the conqueror'. He didn't conquer Wales though. Consequently, is there any reason to call him William the Conqueror, when discussing him in a Welsh context? What do they call him in France, for example?
 * Do you see the article as nearly complete, or do you have any further plans? Daicaregos (talk) 10:03, 25 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Dai, in answer to the first question: no I have not given up on Sibyl at all. However, one of the sources you provided on Sibyl led me to some refs I used on another article. I am still searching for facts on Sibyl.

I think the article is pretty much completed, but I'll keep hunting for an image. Yes, Ealdgyth is better than Edith. As for the priory donations: there were two separate ones. The first involved Miles, the second (made after 1137) involved Sibyl. I think William was called The Bastard in France. We could compromise by calling him William I of England in the article; this way we stick to NPOV. I wish to thank you once again for your tireless help in greatly improving the article. I'm glad you like the Ancestry section.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 11:32, 25 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Yep, references have a habit of leading one astray. What does the reference in “Cawley, Medieval Lands, Wales” say about the priory donation. Do you have a url link to the book, I couldn't find it on Google Books? William I of England works for me. Daicaregos (talk) 11:53, 25 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Medieval Lands says that the charter for the time Sibyl and her husband donated property to Llanthony was undated, but it was later than Miles's donation in 1137. The URL for Medieval Lands is: fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/England, Earls. I hope it works as I'm terrible with URLs.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 11:58, 25 October 2010 (UTC)
 * The ref is actually linked to Medieval Lands, England, Earls created 1067-1122 which I linked to from Wales.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 12:12, 25 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Found it. I'll add it to the article now. Thanks, Daicaregos (talk) 12:19, 25 October 2010 (UTC)

I tried, but failed, to find a link to page 109, per reference 24: Graeme J. White, Restoration and Reform, 1153-1165: Recovery From Civil War in England, University of Cambridge Press (2000), p109, Google Books, retrieved 19 October 2010. Do you have the url? If so I'll expand the citation reference. Found this, which gives Sibyls' eldest daughter's name as 'Margery' – married to Humphrey de Bohun. Is it the same person? Should the altenative name be mentioned? Daicaregos (talk) 10:35, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
 * I just added it! Thanks, Dai.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 11:13, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Margery was obviously a variant of Margaret, just as Maud and Mahaut were variants of Matilda, and Elizabeth was the same name as Isabella.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 11:16, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm sure you're right. They seem to have had French and Latin names at the time, which later historians Anglicised. They now seem to be known more by their original Norman/French names. How fashions change. Any joy on the link to page 109, per reference 24: Graeme J. White, Restoration and Reform, 1153-1165: Recovery From Civil War in England, University of Cambridge Press (2000), p109, Google Books, retrieved 19 October 2010.? Daicaregos (talk) 13:39, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
 * No, it's one of the missing pages. I added Miles' motive for switching sides. You have probably guessed it was not based on principle or the strength of Matilda's claim!--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 14:35, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
 * That was my experience of the source too. How did you read the source if it is one of the missing pages? Do you have the book? We can never really know peoples' motives, and of course the past is a foreign country, but I reckon you could count on the fingers of one hand the times the 'nobility' have acted in the interests of anyone other than themselves or their own immediate family. That is how they have remained in power. Daicaregos (talk) 16:37, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
 * I found the page on Internet, then inexplicably it was no longer available. Yes it's hard to discern people's motives; alas, humanity has not altered with the passing of centuries. Self-interest always overrides principles. I believe that Sibyl entered a religious life to atone for her husband having died while excommunicated. Of course, I cannot include this in the article as it's purely OR on my part.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 06:06, 27 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Funny, I'd always assumed it was like going into an old people's home, or a hospice - to receive care 24/7. Those Normans had a weird idea of Christianity. They weren't that well known for being meek or mild. Still, I've never understood how they can have chaplains in the army; rather incongruous, I'd say. Daicaregos (talk) 07:50, 27 October 2010 (UTC)
 * I actually asked a priest why they had chaplains in the Army seeing as one of the Ten Commandments is: Thou shall not kill. He replied that it was to give spiritual comfort to the men. I was immediately reminded of Eric Burdon's song Sky Pilot.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 07:58, 27 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Just seen this. What happened to: "Of course, I cannot include this in the article as it's purely OR on my part."? :) Daicaregos (talk) 08:15, 27 October 2010 (UTC)
 * I had just remembered that we are encouraged to BE BOLD. Anyroad, I did use the word "possible".--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 08:24, 27 October 2010 (UTC)
 * My mistake. I hadn't realised that being WP:BOLD included adding things to articles we've just made up (aka original research). Daicaregos (talk) 08:39, 27 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Do you think I should remove it?--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 08:48, 27 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Voila! It is gone! I'll let the readers come to their own conclusions.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 08:53, 27 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Aye. It's definitely for the best. I think you have a decent article there now Jeanne. I was thinking ... now the article is quite substantial, perhaps the lead should be a summary of the article. You know, moving info in the current lead into the body of the text, and rewriting the lead as a summary. We could even go for WP:GAN. Even if it doesn't pass, we'll have some pointers for improvements. What do you think? Daicaregos (talk) 10:02, 27 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Great idea, Dai. Unfortunately I'll be away from my PC for about an hour or two.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 10:04, 27 October 2010 (UTC)

Jeanne, would you like to transclude the discussion on my Talk page to the article Talkpage (perhaps from after the Anya Seton stuff, as it's not really appropriate)? Daicaregos (talk) 15:22, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Hi Jeanne, did you miss this? Daicaregos (talk) 17:03, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes I did miss it. Great idea. How does one go about moving the discussion though sans Anya Seton?--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 17:09, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Like this. Daicaregos (talk) 18:55, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks, Dai.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 04:51, 30 October 2010 (UTC)

Sorry :(
Hi Jeanne, sorry I can't find a picture of Sibyl de Neufmarché, I've tried google, bing and wikimedia commons but no result, maybe she never had an image, though it wouldn't surprise me if she occurs in a tapastry or if she had a seal..it is a very good article I've been reading it whilst you were finishing it, is anything known about her daughter Lucy? Sorry again--David (talk) 09:54, 30 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes, she married and had descendants. Thanks for trying, David. I really appreciate it.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 10:06, 30 October 2010 (UTC)
 * I've been watching a great tv series The Pillars of the Earth (TV miniseries) has it been on in Italy? It's mainly about the dispute between King Stephen and Matilda--David (talk) 10:40, 30 October 2010 (UTC)
 * No, it hasn't but I'm fascinated by the Anarchy.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 12:13, 30 October 2010 (UTC)

I'll be away from my computer
for the rest of the afternoon and possibly until tomorrow morning. Sorry for the inconvenience.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 12:13, 30 October 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm back!--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 17:35, 30 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Were you just toying with us? Daicaregos (talk) 19:34, 30 October 2010 (UTC)
 * No, I went to the hairdresser where I spent almost four hours! It was a badly-needed visit, alas. Oh Dai, check out the history on Anne Boleyn. I nearly fell off my chair laughing. Oh well it is Saturday night after all.....--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 19:37, 30 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Did you sit on a throne whilst getting your hair done? Jack forbes (talk) 19:41, 30 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes, as a matter of fact I did while I held a sceptre. Was it you who made me queen or Dai?! LOL.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 19:43, 30 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Not me. I would never agree to anyone becoming queen. But I may vote for you, should you stand for election. Daicaregos (talk) 19:47, 30 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks for reverting. I couldn't make any more reverts otherwise I'd have broken the 3RR.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 19:49, 30 October 2010 (UTC)
 * I think Dai deserves a knighthood for that. Arise sir Dai. ;) Jack forbes (talk) 19:54, 30 October 2010 (UTC)
 * No thanks. None of that establishment tinsel to keep the oiks in order for me. Daicaregos (talk) 20:50, 30 October 2010 (UTC)
 * I'll drink to that!--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 20:33, 30 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Right lads; although it's a wild and swinging Saturday night, I've got no date at the disco and I'm getting a wee bit sleepy. I'll sign off for now. Good night.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 20:40, 30 October 2010 (UTC)


 * Nos da Daicaregos (talk) 20:50, 30 October 2010 (UTC)

Happy Hallowe'en!
Who shall I dress up as tonight? Hmm... Any ideas?--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 05:41, 31 October 2010 (UTC)
 * I have found the perfect costume. I've put it on this page for all to see.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 14:08, 31 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Anyone we know, Jeanne? Jeez, not another image on your Talkpage. It's become a nightmare to navigate (quite appropriate for today, really) By the way: Nos Calan Gaeaf hapus i ti. Daicaregos (talk) 14:17, 31 October 2010 (UTC)
 * I never knew that!--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 14:20, 31 October 2010 (UTC)

I wanted to dress up as the invisible man, but I can't seem to find my costume. GoodDay (talk) 15:27, 31 October 2010 (UTC)


 * If you find it send it over to me. I need it for a few days. lol Jack forbes (talk) 15:31, 31 October 2010 (UTC)
 * The sky is becoming really creepy with a green tinge and huge dark clouds heralding a storm. A perfect Hallowe'en night in the making. My cat is out on the balcony waiting for the approaching storm.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 15:37, 31 October 2010 (UTC)

Thanks
Hiya Jeanne, just seen the splendid present you left for me on my userpage. How very lovely of you. Thank you very much. Have a great Halloween ... Best, Daicaregos (talk) 21:01, 31 October 2010 (UTC)
 * You're most welcome.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 06:36, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

Sibyl de Neufmarché
I think we're just about done. Unless you would like to have a go a turning the 'Issue' subsection from bullet points to narrative (which will probably be brought up in review anyway), or have any other suggestions, would you be happy to go for WP:GAN now? If so, would you like to do the nomination, or would you like me to? If you don't think it's ready, we could park it for (say) a month, and take a fresh look at it then. Daicaregos (talk) 13:58, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Normally issue sections just have the bullet points rather than narrative. Yes, I think the article looks very good now. If you don't mind, would you make the nomination please? I've never gone the GAN route.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 14:06, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Sure, no problem. By the way, waiting for the review (which could be weeks) doesn't stop us from making changes to the article. Daicaregos (talk) 14:12, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
 * I wish we could locate an image of her in the meantime.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 14:18, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
 * It's nominated. I looked for an image at the National Portrait Gallery, British Museum and Gathering the Jewels, but no joy. Daicaregos (talk) 14:28, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Oh thank you. Let's keep our fingers crossed!--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 14:31, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Even if it doesn't pass, the worst that can happen is that someone will make suggestions to make the article better. Don't hold your breath though. These things take time. Wales has been nominated, awaiting review, since 6th October. Many others longer. Daicaregos (talk) 14:38, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
 * IMHO, the article looks good-well-written, well-sourced, good background history, no peacock or weasely words.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 14:41, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Aye. And I think it's interesting too. All in all - something to be proud of. Daicaregos (talk) 14:45, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
 * The nomination has been posted to the WP:GAN now. Go to the top of the Talk:Sibyl de Neufmarché page. In the GAN banner, at "Sibyl de Neufmarché is currently a good article nominee.", click on "good article nominee" and it will take you to the posting. You can see if a reviewer has taken up the challenge :) Daicaregos (talk) 14:53, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks Dai.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 14:55, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

I have looked for, but failed to find, Sibyl's maritagiem in Latin. I was thinking of adding it to the article in the same way as “Extract of a letter from Sir Edward Hoby (Gentleman of the Bedchamber) to Sir Thomas Edwards, Ambassador at Brussells [sic]" is shown at Gunpowder Plot, a Featured Article. Any ideas? Daicaregos (talk) 19:05, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
 * No. Ward only has the translated version. Why not add that?--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 19:10, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
 * I had thought of adding Maritagieum in its entirety but I thought it would be too long for the marriage section. Where should we put it? At the bottom of the page?--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 19:13, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
 * It is Ward's translation. It may be a copyright issue. Is there a board at which we could ask if it would be OK? Daicaregos (talk) 19:17, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes at Reference Desk/Humanities. Even if it's her translation, the fact that the original is in the public domain should obviate copyright. However, better safe than sorry.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 19:21, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Would you like to ask, or should I? Daicaregos (talk) 19:23, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
 * I have already asked. Is my query sufficient or should I elaborate further?--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 19:28, 1 November 2010 (UTC)--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 19:28, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
 * That should be enough. Just have to wait and see the replies. Thanks. Daicaregos (talk) 19:35, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
 * They're normally quick about responding over there. It would be lovely to have the charter on the page.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 19:37, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Hello, guys. A better (or as good) a place to ask about copyright would probably be at Media copyright questions Jack forbes (talk) 20:09, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
 * I've taken the liberty of copying the question over to the copyright page, but have left it on the humanities ref desk. Jack forbes (talk) 20:20, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks for that Jack. Daicaregos (talk) 21:29, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes Jack, thank you.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 06:48, 2 November 2010 (UTC)
 * It appears that the translation is indeed protected by copyright. We can, however, quote a couple of sentences, citing the author, which we have done. We cannot risk adding the entire translated charter. If we locate the Latin original, that's another matter.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 07:01, 2 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Oh well. At least now we know. Daicaregos (talk) 07:53, 2 November 2010 (UTC)
 * It would be violating copyright to use it. I'm glad you suggested that we pose the question.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 08:03, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

John Dee
If he only knew the trouble he'd cause for Wikipedia, centuries latter. GoodDay (talk) 17:42, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
 * LOL.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 06:48, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

Strange strange skies
We had a thunderstorm this morning. If it returns-and the strange colour of the sky portends that it will-I'll be forced to be away from my computer today.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 06:51, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

Yolande image
Sorry Jeanne, couldn't find an image of Yolande :( it mainly came up with pics of her sister Margaret, mother Isabella and Yolande of Aragon. But have no fear I've asked Acoma (the guy who posts all these images) to look for one of Yolande and Sibyl--David (talk) 15:59, 2 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks for looking, David.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 18:18, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

Stephen
I added an image of Stephen to Sibyl de Neufmarché. Not sure if it's an improvement or not. The caption definitely needs amendment. What do you think? Feel free to revert if you think it doesn't fit with the article. Daicaregos (talk) 12:24, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
 * I like it, Dai. I just added the word chaotic to the caption. I'm glad you called him Stephen of Blois as that was how he was styled then.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 12:28, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

All Shook Up
We've had a series of earthquakes here since last night beginning at 22.30.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 05:37, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

Isabella, Countess of Foix
Hello Jeanne, sorry to hear about the earthquakes..I've just finished an article which I thought would be right up your street Isabella, Countess of Foix--David (talk) 16:46, 6 November 2010 (UTC)
 * I like it David. Actually her eldest son, John warrants his own article as well.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 17:41, 6 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Alot of the Foix family need articles, I think it'll be a project for me, I'll start with John...lucky I created an article on his wife Joan, Heiress of Navarre last week, there will be Isabella's husband to create as well, her brother Matthew needs an expansion, an article is needed for the husband of Joan of Artois, Countess of Foix (who you may remember) and then there is various other Counts and wives inbetween--David (talk) 18:48, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

We just had another earthquake here
It happened as I was editing Margaret de Clare, Baroness Badlesmere.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 18:19, 8 November 2010 (UTC)
 * This must surely be the only time in Wikipedia's history that an edit was made during an earthquake!!--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 19:23, 8 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Is everything quiet again now Jeanne? Daicaregos (talk) 17:27, 9 November 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure if we'll have anymore seismic activity or not. The quake was much stronger the last time. I could barely type, my desk was shaking so!--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 18:53, 10 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Glad you're still with us, anyway. Daicaregos (talk) 22:11, 10 November 2010 (UTC)

British Isles
Times have changed, eh? In the past Dunlavin Green's posts would outrage me. But now, I find them quite entertaining. GoodDay (talk) 16:28, 9 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes he is quite droll.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 17:24, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

Problems
I might be away from my computer for a few days due to personal problems. Sorry for the inconvenience. Hopefully everything will be resolved as soon as possible.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 09:55, 11 November 2010 (UTC)

What a disaster
Nice one, Ferrari. You really hosed the championship for Alonso. He could have driven longer on the tyres.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 14:46, 14 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Alonso won't say it, but you're right. Ferrari threw it away. Jack forbes (talk) 15:23, 14 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Why the hell did they make him change his tyres so soon? The 10th lap! Look how long Button lasted on his? Ferrari is all washed up in my book.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 15:28, 14 November 2010 (UTC)
 * They say they were trying to cover Webbers move. I don't see the sense in that when it was going to put him behind two fast Renaults and let Vettel sail off. Alonso was angry with the Renault driver as they went over the line but I'm afraid he was taking his frustrations out on the wrong people. Ferrari will be back next year though. They are too good not to be. Jack forbes (talk) 15:34, 14 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Webber wasn't a problem. They should have let Alonso go full speed ahead on the tyres until the last moment. Petrov and Rosberg took advantage of the Safety Car to change their own tyres which proved Alonso's undoing. The crew at McLaren wouldn't let Hamilton reenter the pitstop when he reported a problem. Ferrari should have been less cautious.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 15:43, 14 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Yep. There will be a lot of questions asked at Ferrari behind the scenes. I also think that Red Bull intentionally pitted Webber early hoping Ferrari would follow suit with Alonso, and they fell for it. Not very smart thinking by the guys in scarlet in my opinion. Jack forbes (talk) 15:48, 14 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Red Bull is a highly efficient, well-organised team. Did you see how overcome Vettel was up on the podium?--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 15:51, 14 November 2010 (UTC)
 * I was actually quite pleased for him in the end. He seems to be a decent guy and a more than decent driver. In fact, a great driver. Jack forbes (talk) 15:54, 14 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Roll on next year! Jack forbes (talk) 16:05, 14 November 2010 (UTC)
 * I agree. Vettel seems like a nice, pleasant guy. His driving was swift, clean, and smooth as silk. Nobody can blame him for winning the championship. However, Alonso appeared slated to win until Ferrari let him down-which was a shame, and they should be ashamed!--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 16:21, 14 November 2010 (UTC)

Margaret de Clare and the Tower of London
I've provisionally undone the edits you made adding more detail about the reason Margaret de Clare, Baroness Badlesmere was imprisoned in the Tower. The problem is that the source currently used doesn't go into that much detail about the event, so further references need to be provided if the information is to be re-added. It's an interesting detail though and the article would benefit it's inclusion if it was properly sourced. Nev1 (talk) 19:09, 15 November 2010 (UTC)
 * I have since added three different sources to back up the info. It's a pity Derek Wilson did not go into better detail about the incident with Margaret de Clare at Leeds, seeing as the event had far-reaching political consequences for the King and the barons. Margaret herself got off the lightest, despite her having been the first woman imprisoned in the Tower. Really, it's a fascinating bit of English history.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 07:06, 16 November 2010 (UTC)

Despenser war...
Evening! Saw your interest in the Despenser War. It's a sadly often overlooked conflict... Would it be of any use to you if I went through and gave it a scrub for citations etc. against the standard works for the 1320s? I've probably got a bit of time tomorrow if that would be helpful. Hchc2009 (talk) 20:02, 19 November 2010 (UTC)
 * I would love for you to do that! Ive created several articles relating to that war.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 20:18, 19 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Will fish the material out tomorrow and see what I can do... Hchc2009 (talk) 20:22, 19 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Thank you.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 20:26, 19 November 2010 (UTC)
 * I've done some initial tidying up and citation-adding here in user space, will carry on a bit later and do the rest of it. A couple of things I'd be interested in your views though.
 * There's a definite mix in the way that authors refer to the conflict. Some are using "Despenser War" to refer to the second half of the conflict; some "Despenser War" to refer to both 1321 and 1322 phases; some use "Despenser Wars" to refer to both. I'm going to propose that we stick with "Despenser War", use it to refer to both phases since we'd have to cover the events of 1321 anyway for it to make sense, and note the academic disagreement in a footnote. What do you reckon?
 * The Costain reference - this has to be the three Edwards book, I reckon?
 * I'm baffled by the "Five Day's Raid in Glamorgan" bit. The link in the citation doesn't work, and the only reference on Google Books or a search engine I can find for this phrase is an obscure 1904 volume by Griffith. And I can't find anything talking about a Welsh revolution. Have you ever come across anything which refers to this bit of the conflict in this way?
 * Cheers! Hchc2009 (talk) 10:36, 20 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes. The Costain book is the The Three Edwards. As for the Five Day's Raid in Glamorgan, I also did a search and came up with zero. The War should stick to the events of 1321 and 1322, and leave Wales and this mythical raid out. The rebellion was by the Marcher Lords against Edward II and the Despensers! Where do the Welsh come into it?! I am the author who added the part about the Marcher Lords and removed the plural wars; prior to that it was called a Welsh revolution.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 10:49, 20 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Agreed. Perhaps there's some additional or recent historical work been done by historians on this in Welsh (not impossible), but in the absence of apparently any valid reference or cited material, I'm going to leave it out.Hchc2009 (talk) 11:13, 20 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes, it should be left out entirely. By the way, your work on the article looks good!--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 17:00, 20 November 2010 (UTC)
 * I've moved it over from user space. It'll still need some work, but it's looking a bit more solid. Feel free to tweak it! Hchc2009 (talk) 18:06, 20 November 2010 (UTC)

Benny said it's OK
The Pope said it's alright to use condoms, when wishing to protect yourself from STDs. GoodDay (talk) 18:05, 20 November 2010 (UTC)
 * And for those who like the feel of Latex on their members?--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 18:16, 20 November 2010 (UTC)
 * It's still considered a sin, if the usage is merely to prevent pregnancy. GoodDay (talk) 18:21, 20 November 2010 (UTC)


 * Latex? blah. Ain't nothing like the real thing, baby. The Vatican may begin selling condoms. Here's some possible brand names - Latin latex, Holy Father knows best, The 10 commandments on prevention or Where angels dare to thread. GoodDay (talk) 13:22, 21 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Those are funny! What about these brand names: Vatican 10 (blessed Latex for your ten inches). Confessional Tubes, Holy Rollers or Rubber John Paulies (with a picture of Pope John Paul II on the packet)?--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 14:15, 21 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Giggle, giggle. GoodDay (talk) 15:06, 21 November 2010 (UTC)

IPs Don't Lie
I keep forgetting to log in when I make edits! Oh dear, I'm becoming an IP! Don't hold it against me, GoodDay please!!!!!--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 18:56, 21 November 2010 (UTC)--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 18:56, 21 November 2010 (UTC)
 * You have been blocked for 2 weeks. We can't have any ip's roaming about here you know! Jack forbes (talk) 19:03, 21 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Goodbye cruel world.................--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 19:05, 21 November 2010 (UTC)
 * You're safe. PS: I'm still a proponent of mandatory registration. GoodDay (talk) 22:36, 21 November 2010 (UTC)

Despensers
Ping. Please confirm receipt. Cheers, Daicaregos (talk) 15:30, 22 November 2010 (UTC)

Talk Back
Please give your opinion on Talk:Louis Ferdinand, Dauphin of France.--Queen Elizabeth II&#39;s Little Spy (talk) 04:11, 27 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Check out Template:House of Estridsen! Give me some opinions.--Queen Elizabeth II&#39;s Little Spy (talk) 02:01, 28 November 2010 (UTC)

Wowsers
That's a detailed response at BISE! I know who I'll ask next time I've a question concerning British peers! --HighKing (talk) 11:41, 25 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Ah, but that's because I have created a few Mortimer-related articles, so the info is imprinted on my brain.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 11:43, 25 November 2010 (UTC)

Concerning things imprinted on the brain: Luv the cleavage, Jeanne. GoodDay (talk) 12:57, 25 November 2010 (UTC)
 * If you got it flaunt it! Especially when there's a good-looking guy around to appreciate it!--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 16:36, 25 November 2010 (UTC)

Hey
Hey Jeanne, how's everything going? I'm looking for a few mini projects to keep me occupied. Well at least I have Friday 29th April 2011 off because of the royal wedding (I'm getting bored of everyone going on about it now)--David (talk) 11:56, 27 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Hi David. Nice to hear from you!--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 15:44, 27 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Acoma couldn't find any images of Sibyl or Yolande, Duchess of Lorraine (I know it's a bit late) I've completed an article Jutta of Denmark, I feel she may have been a victim in all of the problems--David (talk) 17:36, 27 November 2010 (UTC)

Re: Despensers
No, I haven't seen that article yet. I can recommend a great book for it though - The Greatest Traitor: The Life of Sir Roger Mortimer, Ruler of England: 1327-1330. The article looks interesting. Maybe if I have some time I can help improve it. Thanks and happy editing! Ruby2010 (talk) 17:02, 27 November 2010 (UTC)

Family
When the next movie of or involving King George V is made, this fellow (if he can act), would make good casting for the part of Georgie. GoodDay (talk) 13:56, 28 November 2010 (UTC)

I'm in with the In-Crowd, baby
I'm in with the In-Crowd, babyyyyyy......Top 400!!!!!--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 07:42, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Jeanne, you are the In-Crowd (busy, busy, busy). Daicaregos (talk) 18:07, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Guess what happened? I was so caught up in the 14th century with Roger Mortimer, Baroness Badlesmere, the Lords Ordainers along with their band of merry hanged, drawn and quartered men that I decided to move forward into the 20th century. Only to discover that guys like this: Robin Jackson, Billy Hanna, and Davy Payne made Mortimer and the other medieval thugs-for-hire seem like Francis of Assisi in comparison! Today I travelled back to the intriguing and dagger-in-the-back Renaissance Italy. I get around like the Beach Boys sang. LOL.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 18:13, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Sounds like they were the life & soul of the party. Enjoy. Daicaregos (talk) 20:23, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
 * To think that for years I lived down the road from those lads so to speak.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 20:29, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Lucky old you. How did you manage to tear yourself away from those lovable rogues? Must have been tough. Daicaregos (talk) 20:41, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Who said I tore myself away from the delightful rogues?!--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 05:38, 3 December 2010 (UTC)

Middleton Ancestry
Hey, there would seem to be people adding the facts back into Elizabeth Knolly's page based on the Daily Mail article about Kate Middleton being a descendant of Mary Boleyn - which has NO sources. I just don't understand it, if they had made fun of her for so long about not being 'royal' -- why would they just now come out with this? I had already put all this down in the TALK page, but some idiot IP address came back and changed it again. This is probably on her own page as well (Kate). There is no truth in this and if there was.. where are the sources?? You can't argue with historical records which simply show there are two people missing from the supposed list of Kate's ancestors. Can we put a block on the page or do something about it? Thanks for trying to help by the way.. I just can't stand historically inaccurate information -- especially in the Tudor era where MOST, if not ALL was documented.. especially with the Boleyn family. People have been researching them for years. -- Lady Meg (talk) 00:14, 3 December 2010 (UTC)

My Christmas crib is up with real running water!
It is absolutely georgeous in real life. My son did practically everything. I added the people-over 200 of them!--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 18:59, 4 December 2010 (UTC)

Robin Jackson
Thanks for making those edits. Mooretwin (talk) 23:59, 7 December 2010 (UTC)
 * You are most welcome. Thank you for pointing out my weasel words. You also drew my attention to an external link which no longer worked. Thanks again. How does the article look now?--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 05:54, 8 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your conscientious work on this article. The text is much improved. I do, however, have concerns about some of the sources, which are from partisan bodies, whose credibility/reliability is questionable. Would it be possible to remove these sources and rely instead on others? The credentials of the Barron Report, for example, cannot be questioned and it probably covers the points being made by the dodgy sources. The sources I am concerned about are as follows:

Mooretwin (talk) 23:02, 8 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Troops Out Movement - a republican campaigning group
 * Saoirse32 - another republican organisation
 * Eirigi - a dissident republican grouping
 * ‘The Committee’. By Sean McPhelimy - a book which has been the subject of successful defamation litigation. see this And I believe has been withdrawn from sale in the UK.
 * The above-mentioned Republican sources are drawing from Weir's affidavit and the Barron Report. I have replaced one external link to the Troops Out Movement with another one linking directly to the 2003 Barron Report. The fact that McPhelimy's book has been banned in the UK does not, in my opinion, preclude its reliability and authenticity. We have to include Republican sources to give the article balance. Anyway, I'll replace some of the refs with the Barron Report source, which cannot be questioned.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 07:14, 9 December 2010 (UTC)

Pardon
No doubt you may have read the stories, the Lizard King is finally going to skate. Here is the standard AP piece on it: http://www.boston.com/ae/music/articles/2010/12/08/surviving_doors_hope_for_morrison_pardon_on_thurs - classic photo.

I remember hearing "Dinner Key" and thinking it was a single word (like finicky) when I was young and he was arrested, not making the connection to "key" as in "cayo" until later. Too little too late, but there is a message. Ciao -- Sswonk (talk) 01:49, 9 December 2010 (UTC)

Useful links
Hi, Jeanne. I don't know if you'd be interested in these, or if you already use them, but I've started monoring Tudor pages this way. It helps let me know when new articles are created:

related changes related changes

I've created a few lately on people I'd never heard of, but were in the old DNB. Best wishes, Boleyn (talk) 13:10, 11 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Thank you, Boleyn.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 09:16, 12 December 2010 (UTC)

Eva Marshal
I made a comment on the talk page. Sorry if I seem picky, but I can't see where that source justifies calling him Lord Abergavenny, or her Lady Abergavenny. And rew D alby 16:52, 14 December 2010 (UTC)
 * The Complete Peerage calls him Lord Abergavenny.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 17:51, 14 December 2010 (UTC)
 * You are correct. William de Braose never held the title just tenancy of the lordship of Abergavenny. I have since removed Lady Abergavenny from Eva Marshal's article, and related articles. Thanks for pointing out my error.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 12:49, 15 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Jeanne, - Perhaps you should consider removing the "Lady Abergavenny" mention from Sybil de Neufmarché's article too. The same reasoning applies. Doug (at Wiki) 14:08, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Will do ASAP. Thanks Doug!--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 14:15, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

Teresa Cristina of the Two Sicilies is now a Feature article nominee
Hi! Teresa Cristina of the Two Sicilies has been nominated as possible Featured article. She was an Italian princess and the wife of Emperor Pedro II of Brazil. If're interested on reviewing and voting in favor or not of it, please go to Featured article candidates/Teresa Cristina of the Two Sicilies/archive1. Kind regards, --Lecen (talk) 18:25, 17 December 2010 (UTC)

Isabella of Lusignan
Hello Jeanne, I've just finished an article on Isabella, daughter of Isabella of Angouleme and half-sister of King Henry III. I hope you don't mind that I used the lineage and sibling sections from her sister's article, Alice, that you created. Thank you and Merry Christmas--David (talk) 13:03, 20 December 2010 (UTC)

Jack forbes
Wowsers, I liked to know why he left this time. GoodDay (talk) 13:44, 21 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Are you sure he's left for good?--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 13:53, 21 December 2010 (UTC)
 * I know he'll return, but just wondering why he left in such a huff. GoodDay (talk) 13:55, 21 December 2010 (UTC)
 * I haven't a clue.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 13:58, 21 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Rats. GoodDay (talk) 14:02, 21 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Rats? I don't dig.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 14:03, 21 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Oh, just saddened that you didn't know why Jf left. PS: What kind of vehicle are huffs? GoodDay (talk) 14:05, 21 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Huff would make a good name for a car, actually.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 14:07, 21 December 2010 (UTC)

BTW, I don't consider ya a devolutionist. You may have noticed, I'm no longer compromising on such articles, anymore. GoodDay (talk) 15:27, 21 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Oh, have you seen my User:Jeanne boleyn/Doppelgangers?--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 15:38, 21 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Say those are cool. I've placed a nomination there, btw. GoodDay (talk) 15:42, 21 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Feel free to add people to the page.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 15:44, 21 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Okie Dokie: "Heeyyyeee Abbott", "Heeyyyeee Harper". GoodDay (talk) 16:00, 21 December 2010 (UTC)

Congrats!
It's great to hear that you're finally getting the recognition you deserve! :D -- Jack1755 (talk) 17:33, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Thank you, Jack. I'm very pleased.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 17:34, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
 * My congrats too! I see you also got a pass today. Funny! So we are celebrating... Buchraeumer (talk) 21:46, 22 December 2010 (UTC)

GA review
Would you be OK deleting the Ancestry section? Or do you want to defend it? Daicaregos (talk) 14:45, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
 * No worries. I have the answer to that one now. Daicaregos (talk) 14:46, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Well done Jeanne. Do you want to add the Ancestry section back now, as suggested by Pyrotec; here: "This section might "read" better if it where given a new section title and then split two two subsections. The first two paragraphs could moved into a subsection entitled Ancestry and the diagram moved into it from the current Ancestry section; and the third paragraph moved into a subsection called Family inheritance " and here? Daicaregos (talk) 19:34, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes I would but I don't know how to do it.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 19:59, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
 * I'll have a crack if you like. Daicaregos (talk) 20:26, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
 * I'd really appreciate it, Dai. Thanks.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 07:04, 23 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Does that look OK? Daicaregos (talk) 09:50, 24 December 2010 (UTC)

Alpabetical order at country/non-country infoboxes
I've ended my 'alphabetical order' corrections (almost before I started) due to un-expected resistance. GoodDay (talk) 16:14, 23 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Alphabetical order as regards a nation's languages is not encyclopedic.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 16:35, 23 December 2010 (UTC)
 * It's very NPoV though. Anyways, when Dai doesn't get the answers he wants, he always performs the You didn't answer my question schtick. Oh well. GoodDay (talk) 18:10, 23 December 2010 (UTC)

Infobox headings linguistics
Wowsers, I'm being told that PEI has 2 official languages English/French (when infact it dosen't). Is it just that time of year or have alot of editors taken themselves out of reality. GoodDay (talk) 21:11, 23 December 2010 (UTC)

Elizabeth of Hungary
Hello Jeanne, I'd appreciate it if you would join a discussion at Talk:Elizabeth of Sicily, Queen of Hungary on a possible illegitimate child of the queen--David (talk) 20:33, 23 December 2010 (UTC)

Where are they now?
Cameron, BigDunc, TharkunColl, HENRY V OF ENGLAND & Sarah777. Cameron, made roughly a handful of appearance in 18-months, last appearance December 18, 2010. BigDunc has retired months ago. TharkunColl gradually faded into sporadic appearance at Medieval articles. Henry hasn't been seen in 'bout a year or more & Sarah777 rarely ventures outside her userpage, which she sporadically posts at. GoodDay (talk) 06:49, 24 December 2010 (UTC)
 * I have noticed that a lot of editors have disappeared from the project, which is a pity.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 07:30, 24 December 2010 (UTC)

Merry Christmas everybody!
Edit war is over.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 09:28, 25 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Happy Christmas to you and all frequenters of this page Jeanne. Glad to hear of the end of any 'war' with the season that's in it! Best. RashersTierney (talk) 20:38, 25 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Happy Christmas to you as well, Rashers!--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 08:51, 26 December 2010 (UTC)

Merry Christmas & Happy Boxing Day, Jeanne. GoodDay (talk) 15:10, 26 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Nadolig Llawen and a very happy Boxing Day to you Jeanne. Hope you received at least something you wanted for Christmas. Daicaregos (talk) 19:52, 26 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes, I did. My latest article- Glenanne gang received a B Class assessment! How was your Christmas, Dai? Did it snow?--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 07:42, 27 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Good one Jeanne. Well done you. Probably would have had a better Christmas had I not had man-flu since Thursday. Great timing, huh? I still had fun exchanging presents though. It didn't snow Christmas Day, but the snow hasn't left yet. It's been around zero for the last couple of weeks. It's warmer today and the ice'n snow's starting to melt. Daicaregos (talk) 10:38, 27 December 2010 (UTC)

Bye Bye 2010, Hello 2011
Happy New Year, everybody! Just think we're all going to be a year older.....hee hee hee hee--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 12:11, 31 December 2010 (UTC)
 * 2011 HAPPY NEW YEAR. GoodDay (talk) 03:27, 1 January 2011 (UTC)

Bernadette McAliskey
I made a quick search on google but I cant find anything else about the attack or anything about an attack on Bernadette McAliskey on that date. It may have been an attack her as it took place after she got married or it could have been on her in-laws. I will keep looking to see what I can find.-- MFIreland  • <font color="FFA500">Talk 18:30, 31 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 18:33, 31 December 2010 (UTC)

Happy 2011
2011 IS HERE!--95.235.101.97 (talk) 23:19, 31 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Happy 2011!--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 23:20, 31 December 2010 (UTC)

2011 - HAPPY NEW YEAR, Jeanne. GoodDay (talk) 03:24, 1 January 2011 (UTC)



Bonne Année 2011 ! --Frania W. (talk) 22:11, 1 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Ah, merci beauçoup, Frania! Bonne Année to you!--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 08:31, 2 January 2011 (UTC)

Historical pic
Now is this not a typical 1970s teenage girl's bedroom?--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 17:28, 5 January 2011 (UTC)

Robin Jackson reassessment
I suggest a peer review for further improvement towards GA status. KimChee (talk) 04:19, 6 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Thank you. I'll do that.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 08:30, 6 January 2011 (UTC)

Happy 10th anniversary
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Happy 10th anniversary of Wikipedia!

GoodDay (talk) has bought you a whisky! Sharing a whisky is a great way to bond with other editors after a day of hard work. Spread the WikiLove by buying someone else a whisky, whether it be someone with whom you have collaborated or had disagreements. Enjoy!

Spread the good cheer and camaraderie by adding to their talk page with a friendly message. Message received at 17:11, 15 January 2011 (UTC)
 * I'll drink to that! I deserve it after working all afternoon on a new article! Thanks, GoodDay.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 17:13, 15 January 2011 (UTC)

Happy 10th Anniversary of Wikipedia!
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Along with accents & cédilles, à é è ê ë î ï ô û ù ç etc. Frania de Lutèce, a.k.a. --Frania W. (talk) 18:48, 15 January 2011 (UTC), who much prefers champagne has bought you a whisky! Sharing a whisky AND champagne is a great way to bond with other editors after a day of hard work. Spread the WikiLove by buying someone else a whisky AND/OR champagne, whether it be someone with whom you have collaborated or had disagreements. Enjoy!

P.S. Changed Francoise Hardy to Françoise Hardy Spread the good cheer and camaraderie by adding to their talk page with a friendly message. Bzuk (talk) 15:34, 15 January 2011 (UTC)

Stupidity of the week
There is stupid and then again there is STUPID. Last night while watching tv, someone I know thought the film Last of the Mohicans was Robin Hood!!!!!!!! I tell you......To other editors: feel free to post instances of stupidity here.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 10:55, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

Draconian methods
Do any other editors around this joint feel that Wikipedia is becoming steadily more Draconian? Not to mention ball-breaking?!--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 11:04, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Once again, I'm having to justify an article I created over two years ago, when I've been working my f..king tits off expanding and adding content to another article. There is little appreciation for the content-creating editor around here. The ones who go around criticising and deprecating the efforts of those who wish to build an encyclopedia have gained the upper hand. It's only a matter of time when all our labours are deleted forever. F..king, bloody hell!--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 17:30, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
 * In terms of editorial assistance, I thought I saw what you were trying to do, so I pushed forward. :) I sympathize entirely with your take on "justifying" an article on which there are multiple sources. But I suppose that simply being the greatest heiress of one's time does not make one as "notable" as, say, Yankee Poodle or Claudia. - Nunh-huh 16:29, 22 January 2011 (UTC)
 * It's one of the reasons why so many established editors are leaving the project.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 17:10, 22 January 2011 (UTC)
 * It's unfortunate that one of the prices of being at Wikipedia is being willing to tolerate a good deal of willful idiocy. I would certainly be more productive if stupidity and tendentiousness were less welcomed here. - Nunh-huh 17:59, 22 January 2011 (UTC)
 * It just seems as if the deletionalists always get their own way regarding historical bios.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 18:49, 22 January 2011 (UTC)
 * I totally agree with you. 195.245.149.70 (talk) 17:33, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

Max Mosley
Hi. There has been an argument over the article on Max Mosley, son of the 6th Baronet Mosley, over something so simple as whether if we should include the name of his parents in law, or father in law, and information on his own children. They even claim he's not nobility. It's a false question, but some people, from outside lineages' issues, insists in not adding them. The discussion was brought up by User:4u1e on User talk:Konakonian, Talk:Max Mosley and Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Biography. I'd thank you that you'd join with your good judgement. Konakonian (talk) at 195.245.149.70 (talk) 17:33, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

Online Ambassadors
I saw you have been really active lately and I clicked on over to your user page and was pretty impressed. Would you be interested in helping with the WP:Online_Ambassadors program? It's really a great opportunity to help university students become Wikipedia contributers. I hope you apply to become an ambassador, Sadads (talk) 00:32, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Thank you so much for asking me. I have replied on the page you've linked. I might consider applying once some personal problems are taken care of. Wikipedia does need to draw more young people and students into the community.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 08:20, 26 January 2011 (UTC)

Communication breakdown
One of my PCs is down (being formatted), and I'm having server problems due to bad weather. Whippeeeeee!!!!! When it rains, it pours.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 07:52, 27 January 2011 (UTC)

Italian wedding
Has anyone ever been to an Italian wedding? In the summer, the receptions are normally held outdoors and guests are expected to dress to the nines.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 17:13, 28 January 2011 (UTC)

GoodDay
And that's not just a greeting. I see from your discussion on User:GoodDay's talk page that you're having an editorial dispute along the lines of something I experienced with him (her?) recently on the page on the current |Talk:112th United States Congress. He actually refused to accept 55,000 Google hits, including numerous media uses of the term, as evidence that John Boehner's title was "Speaker-designate" between the time he was nominated as Speaker by the House Republican Conference and when he was actually elected to the position after the House convened earlier this month. (Add to this that GoodDay's substantive knowledge of the U.S. Congress is...well, let's say lacking.) I haven't had any further run-ins with him, but I see the pattern repeating itself with respect to your articles: Documented facts and Wikipedia consensual acceptance of the facts about something mean absolutely nothing if they contradict his view of things. I just wanted to give you a heads-up as to my encounter with him if, at some point, you need to offer evidence of a pattern of behavior. Cheers, JTRH (talk) 19:35, 29 January 2011 (UTC)

Agincourt
Today it's raining like English arrows at the Battle of Agincourt.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 07:42, 1 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Loosed by the Welsh bowmen who won the battle for them. Here, we have the remains of a lovely sunny day. Soon be sunset, though (in just over half an hour). Daicaregos (talk) 16:29, 1 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Yes and saved Henry V's life as well. Dafydd Gam was one of his saviours.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 16:42, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

Re: Congratulations
Thank you! I'm shocked he approved the nomination so fast. Now if I can just get my other three GA noms moving, I'd be golden... :) Ruby2010   talk  16:48, 3 February 2011 (UTC)

1969 Northern Ireland riots
Hello again! I've done a lot of work on 1969 Northern Ireland riots over the past few days and I think I've got it up to B-Class, but I'd like someone else to have a look at it. Seeing the amazing work you did on Glenanne gang/Miami Showband massacre etc, I couldn't think of anyone better to ask. A few statements still need sourced and it still needs a picture. I'll be uploading a picture of a poster/mural soon, but I think we should have one taken during the event. Same goes for Battle of the Bogside. ~Asarlaí 05:02, 4 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Thank you. I'll take a look at the article again. From what I saw of it the other day, it rates a B class. As regards images, I had an excellent book on the Troubles with loads of photos; unfortunately it was lost. I'll see what I can find in the few books I have at the moment. A good image would be of the rioters confronting the security forces. Would you please take a look at the Robin Jackson article I created in 2009? I have been adding to it recently and I'd like another pair of eyes. I shall upload a photo of the McGurk's bombing now. The work you're doing on Troubles-related articles is fantastic. I think we can get Miami Showband up to GA, don't you?--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 07:34, 4 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Same to you. You should make a GA assessment request for Miami Showband, I'm sure it'll pass.
 * I'll have a look at the Robin Jackson article soon. ~Asarlaí 22:48, 4 February 2011 (UTC)

Can I ask a favour?
I've noticed that an (apparently) brand new editor - User:CaroleHenson - has started an article on Gwladys ferch Dafydd Gam. This seems to be well within your area of interest, and as she seems to be new I thought you might like to cast your eyes over it, and maybe give her some words of advice and encouragement? It looks like a pretty good start to me, but the odd tweak here and there might not go amiss. What I don't understand is, if it is a new article, why does the tag date from 2006? Is it an article that's previously been deleted? I don't want to WP:BITE or make any assumptions! A bit of mentoring might be in order, if you're that way inclined.... Ghmyrtle (talk) 22:13, 8 February 2011 (UTC)
 * I just had a cursory look at it; it seems OK to me, but I'll scrutinise it closer later on. What I don't understand is the refs needed template at the top when it has plenty of refs?--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 08:05, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
 * ...dated 2006 .....???? See her talk page as well - unfortunately, she seems to be diving in a bit too fast, and getting unhappy about the responses.  Ghmyrtle (talk) 08:28, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
 * I don't understand the 2006 date myself. Unless there was a deleted article by the same name. Strange.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 08:37, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Well, I made a few tweaks. It still needs a bit more fixing; some of the peacock words and phrases will have to be removed.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 10:16, 9 February 2011 (UTC)

Gwladys
Just saying, hi! Having fun with you on the Gwladys article! Great edits!--CaroleHenson (talk) 08:23, 10 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Hello. Welcome to the project, Carole. I must say your first article is a nice one. You've started out doing great work. I've given you a wee bit of advice on the article's talk page. If you need any help, feel free to ask me as I'm interested in medieval ladies, and have created a few articles on some of them. Finding sources for these long-dead people can be a pain, however, Google Books is a big help.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 08:30, 10 February 2011 (UTC)

Bullets...
Hi Jeanne, I spent time last night removing bullets, because I was told it's best not to do that. Further, I am building on this section, which will have more information about the children. Can we compromise: keep the paragraph formatting, but lose the bolding of the names? --CaroleHenson (talk) 19:11, 10 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Ok, but I always use bullets to list children. The names should not be in bolding.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 19:12, 10 February 2011 (UTC)