User talk:Jeeny/Archive 2

Request for further imput
Thanks for the heads-up! I've replied here. Glad you've decided to stay, btw. =] autocratique  &#10025;  13:03, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

Nope
It was dissapointing, but I made the comment that Abraham Lincoln invented the iPod and Teddy Roosevelt was "most notable for licking his elbow. No other man has acheived this feet."

And I still didn't get any money.

Oh well.

But I meant what I said about Jordan Pruitt. her voice is powerless, nasily, and ORDINARY. She seems like such a wannabe with her crooked nose and fake tan. And her songwriting is horrible as well. Unfortunatley, they saw these comments as "useless", so they weren't posted.

I wish people with talent got the record deals.

Goodbye —Preceding unsigned comment added by Review california64 (talk • contribs)

Love
Jeeny, how very sweet of you to call me love - however my name is lova. With love from lova :) Lova Falk 17:11, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

Unhelpful?
Hi. If I read things right, you left a note pointing out that my edit on Some Thoughts Concerning Education was unhelpful and reverted. Basically I removed the word "donut" from the leading sentence, and at just about the same time someone else reverted to a previous version, which fixed that stray "donut" as well as a number of other (more subtle) defacements. My "fix" was clearly incomplete.

So did I do wrong? If so, my apologies. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 69.255.129.20 (talk) 18:34, 28 April 2007 (UTC).


 * Hi, ummm, If I did, it may have been because there was so much going on, and that it may just have appeared that I was correcting just your edit, but you could have been in the "cross hairs" so to speak? I don't know now. That happens sometimes when there are many editors on one article editing at the same time. I think I was reverting a previous edit, and perhaps you edited by the time I finished my revert? Therefore seeming like it was you I was reverting, or perhaps I did assume it was you who made an "unhelpful" edit, when I looked at the history. I'm sorry if I did that. Maybe we were trying to make the same fixes? It gets crazy sometimes. That article was being vandalized a lot that day. Sorry if I reverted your legitimate edits. Sorry for the misunderstanding and any mistake I made concerning you.  Jeannie * 19:02, 28 April 2007 (UTC)


 * No problem. Just wanted to know whether it was really me you meant, and if so how to avoid being unhelpful in the future. 69.255.129.20 20:23, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

Graphics help
I was wondering if you could help me with some more graphics. I have uploaded another crooked title page here. If it is not too much trouble, I would really appreciate your help in righting it. Thanks. Awadewit 05:04, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

Joe White from Dorchester
Hi Jeeny -

I'm the mystery guest who added "Joseph P. White" under the list of notable residents of Dorchester. Joe White, my father, really was at the 1964 Summer Olympics in Tokyo signing autographs as a race walker. The truth of the story is that he was a soldier who happened to be stationed in Japan in 1964, and when he and some of his buddies went to the Olympics on a pass, in civilian clothes, many of the Japanese spectators who saw a group of young, physically fit, well-dressed Americans walking into the stadium together presumed that they were part of the US team and started asking for autographs. Always one to enjoy a good joke, Dad signed every autograph request with a flourish, and told those who asked that he was a race walker since he figured it was an obscure enough sport that no one would know the difference. He even came back the next day with a pair of track shoes tied at the laces and slung over one shoulder, signing a few more autographs along the way.

Dad, who really was from Dorchester, passed away on April 7th, and I entered his name under the famous residents of Dorchester in tribute. My apologies if it caused you any administrative headaches.

Sincerely, Paul White —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Jakzhumans (talk • contribs) 18:24, 1 May 2007 (UTC).


 * Hi Paul, I'm sorry about your father. I responded on your talk page. I am not an administrator, and do not want to be. Best wishes. - Jeeny  -talk- 19:52, 1 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Thanks Jeeny. I understand the policy, and didn't expect to see that entry stay on the Dorchester page.  I just wanted to see it there, even briefly.  Many, many thanks for the flowers you left.  Jakzhumans 20:13, 1 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Thanks for posting the welcome, Jeeny, I'm sure it will be helpful. Much obliged for the hospitality.  Jakzhumans 04:07, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

salute
firstly thanks for ure waring,Please click to discussion and read Turkey in europe,latter will edit please not before so i Think ure american but if u wanna learn somethink please click to http://www.coe.int/(concil of europe pfficial web) when u have click u will see who are European or Who are not,Europe is Historical and genetical region(Europid) so turkish genetics name is EUROPİD/TURAN, greeks too(EUROPİD/HELLENİC) and İf u will read ottoman history u can be understend so ARMENİA,CYPRUS,AZETBEJAN and TURKEY are belong to Europe(historical,cultural,genetical and geographical) and finaly Cyprus is member of european union,Turkey will 2015 and the others will one day accordingly europeans belong to Europe and please click to european americans(WHİTE AMERİCANS) page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Americans thanks for read Aegeanfighter —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 88.244.166.243 (talk) 13:50, 3 May 2007 (UTC).


 * Salute. Sorry, just wrote that message in the edit summary for you to be careful of the 3RR rule, as I noticed the edit war happening, and to advise you to look at the talk page as there was/is ongoing discussion (debate) about what should and should not belong in the article. I understand the frustration, as I've been so myself and have been blocked. I didn't want that happen to you. Cheers. - Jeeny  05:08, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

San Francisco Earthquake
Hi - I did review the article and I could not find any residual vandalisms - nice work! Thanks. Cheers Geologyguy 15:03, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

Descendants of William Bradford
I am a bit ambivalent of the site MayflowerHistory.com. I was previously unable to verify some of their claims. Further, I discovered contradictory information among the Houghton Library collections of personal papers. I think that it is a commercial site causes it to be incorrect, perhaps infrequently, at times.  Chèvre Bleue  07:43, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

Hefner Issue
I also cited sources for the claim that Hugh Hefner is descended from Bradford. At the time of his claim in Time magazine, his knowledge of the subject was poor enough that he described Bradford as a Puritan. This is what tipped me off and, so, I checked it with the Mayflower Society's quarterly to find that they did, in fact, trace and reject his claim. I was tempted to remove him from the list as I did with Edward Everett Hale and Benjamin Spock (see the article's talk page), but thought it best I leave it along with the rejection. He seemed likely to be otherwise returned to the list. If you would say, please, what are your thoughts on this matter?  Chèvre Bleue  07:50, 5 May 2007 (UTC)
 * I have no thoughts right now. LOL I may have done something I didn't mean to, when we were editing at the same time. If you removed something, or added something, then I copied before you did anything, then pasted and saved. That then would have taken your changes away. Did that make sense? Goin' ta bed. - Jeeny  07:57, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

Descendants (Continued)
Jeeny, I moved McClellan and Spock back to the talk page on the William Bradford article's descendants list. The RootsWeb Project is really very questionable as a source (the information is provided, without verification, by users). I specifically avoided using it when I was citing sources for descendants earlier this month because I'd come across errors. As it is, I've explained my findings on the new talk page discussion about the move (i.e., no verifiability vis-a-vis The Mayflower Quarterly). Also, I'm still ambivalent about leaving Hugh Hefner on the list without drawing greater attention to the fact that his claim has been disproved. While I think he must appear there, or else he will be continuously re-added by well-meaning future editors, a cursory scanning of the list will have a reader believing that Hefner is, in fact, a descendant. Any thoughts on that? -- Oh, and I noticed your accent quiz results and took it myself. I wouldn't necessarily have suspected my results; they're posted here.  Chèvre Bleue  00:13, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

Reply to Talk:William_Bradford (1590-1657)
Jeeny, I have responded to your talk page discussion at Talk:William_Bradford (1590-1657) for the listing of Whitney among the Bradford descendants. Please see my reply there. I agree with you that the citation was a poor reference. Thanks for your efforts.  Chèvre Bleue  05:07, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

...
NOT POV, FACT! "I am simply deleting the untrue CRAP." If one does not know who was victorious during the Great War, one does not post it. If one does not know of the demographics of a neighborhood, but posts them anyway as fact, it should be deleted. If I am simply doing the latter, then is that vandalism, or correcting foolish mistakes? If one RE-posts them (YOU) and tells the deleter that edits shouldn't reflect your opinon (mine reflected and are FACT) WHEN THEY HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT, THEN THEY (YOU) ARE IN VIOLATION and vandalising by posting false information. Now, mind you own business when you do not know what you ARE TALKING ABOUT AND WHEN IT DOES NOT CONCERN YOU! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sbfenian1916 (talk • contribs) 17:29, 7 May 2007 (UTC) - Well, what exactly would you like me to get the facts on Jeeny? I aM providing unbiased NON POV info.It is FACT.BTW, I'm positive that I've been in Southie longer than yourself. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sbfenian1916 (talk • contribs) 17:58, May 7, 2007 (UTC)

South Boston
and how does what i do to my neighborhood page concern you? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Sbfenian1916 (talk • contribs) 21:31, 7 May 2007 (UTC).
 * Because no one person owns an article just because it's their hometown or whatever else. Even if you created the article, which you did not. But, deleting all content from a talk page is a no-no, that's why it concerns me. - Jeeny Talk 21:35, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

It IS NOT vandalism. I am simply deleting the untrue CRAP from the South Boston page about its demographics. Now, mind your own business and I have left a partial explanation on my edits for YOU. I plan on leaving a much larger one for YOU. Now, please mind your own business. If you were born in Dot., then the Southie page is of no concern to you. Sbfenian1916 22:01, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
 * You can't do that. It doesn't matter where you, I or anyone else was born. You do not have the right to edit pages to reflect your POV, and especially to delete others words on a talk page. That's where editors discuss issues about content of an article. This is an encyclopedia. Please read about what What Wikipedia is not. Thanks. - Jeeny Talk 22:06, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

In regards to the 1916, it referrs to the Easter Rising of 1916 in Ireland lol. Sorry about being so serious, I just had a REALLY bad day at work. I appologize for snapping :).Sbfenian1916 01:36, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

hi
I reported User:Mr strike my leg stop i dont like fly for his recent edits like the one above. Please follow this link to add your thoughts on this incident. --Knowpedia 04:11, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

I have seen you before.
This may be even more bizarre, but I've recently (in the past 30 days) come across your edits. I remember reading your user page; however I can't figure out from your edit log where we have crossed paths. But if we could establish some connections we may find out the real contributor of these awards. --Knowpedia 05:21, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
 * [[Image:Crystal button ok.png|15.px]]Nice picture. I can say for sure I've never actually "seen" you before. You look amazing. --Knowpedia 23:19, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

Iran International Exhibitions Company
Thanks for sharing your views on the Co.'s talk page. You are Jeeny in a bottle (me english no good, me immigrant for France) (lol) —Preceding unsigned comment added by SSZ (talk • contribs) 08:41, 9 May 2007 (UTC)
 * You're welcome. :) LOL, re "Jeeny in a bottle" (I corrected the spelling, because Jenny ((I hate when people call me that) it's so wrong, and I KNOW you know how it's pronounced because of the reference to the bottle. LMAO) You can also dream about Jeeny. People sing/say those all the time. Also, another song, Jeeny with the light brown hair. - Jeeny Talk 14:21, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

Pink hair
I would defntly use pink hair charicters on my page theres no rule about changing hair. I would never be able to make them myself thank you very much :P ♥Eternal Pink-Ready to fight for love and grace♥ 08:49, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the help with Plymouth Colony
I have not yet formally thanked you for all of your help with the Plymouth Colony article. It is looking really awesome. The article has been a pet project of mine for about 2 months or so, and I really think that your help with the images has really spruced it up. The addition of the Book of Laws picture is REALLY great. The article is getting close to ready for another go at FA nomination. It is currently under peer review, but has not yet generated any comments. If you get a chance, and can make any comments about the article, I would be most appreciative. Please be brutal. It is my hope to see this article featured some day, and I want it to be the best it can be. Thanks again for all of the work you have already done! --Jayron32| talk | contribs 05:06, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

Garrett A Morgan
Hi Jeeny, and many thanks for your helpful presence at Garrett A. Morgan. I just wanted to clarify; the two sections in question (one paragraph each at the end of the two sections about the Traffic Signal and Safety Hood) were both accurately sourced, and part of the entry for Morgan for nearly a year. Others came along -- first, two anonymous IP users with a big axe to grind, and deleted these without tagging them as disputed. I tried talking with one (who knows which!) on the article's Talk page. Then, the most recent time I restored the original paragraphs, two other users, BFritzen and Mac Davis, came and again deleted the paragraphs, replaving them with what I imagine was an attempt a compromise language without looking very closely at the article's history and talk. When I deleted some -- just the inaccurate bits -- of what they'd added to these paragraphs, I got a warning on my talk page by John254 that I'd violated the three-edit rule. Aaargh! Anyway, I have since sent in a plea to an Admin for some help, possibly mediation, and maybe a semi-protect to help at least with the anonymous deleters. I just wanted to say I really appreciate your helpful, thoughtful edits and comments. Clevelander96 08:34, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

Thanks
Hi Jeeny, and thanks for your kind words. I'm sure I'll come back to the Garrett Morgan entry someday, but the wikipedia world is just a little too chaotic for me right now! I've decided to work over at the Citizendium instead, where everyone uses real names and there's much less vandalism. I've moved the Morgan stuff there and have added a lot of new material; you can have a look at it here if you like. Hopefully this version will continue to grow!

all best, Clevelander96 21:31, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

Libra Traits
Hi Jeeny -- Thanks for your message. I'd say the whole section (i.e., both "positive" and "negative" traits) could use one or more citations. I've been meaning to get to this myself, but have only had time thus far to keep adding back that pesky fact tag. :) DagnyB 20:42, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

the indefinite article or a many splendoured any?
WRT your edits in the first line of the Racism article. I can accept your edit, but I beg to differ about the grammatical correctness of you rationale. The earlier version said 'Racism is any form of bigotry (etc etc) that is based on the concept of race'. Such a use of the word 'any' doesn't mean all forms of bigotry (etc etc) whatever their conceptual or other basis, but only those forms of bigotry (etc etc) based on the concept of race (or any and all of such forms of bigotry). Anyone whose bigotry is expressed through racial concepts is a racist. A person who expresses their bigotry through racial concepts is a racist. All people who express their bigotry through racial concepts are racists. :) Eyedubya 03:45, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Yes, we differ in opinion and experience. Cheers. - Jeeny Talk 16:31, 16 May 2007 (UTC)


 * That's a universal truth! :) Eyedubya 00:21, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

Racism

 * I've moved this here so interested observers can follow the thread. I'm not sure I agree that what you're calling non-racist bigotry is really as non-racist as you suggest. If someone doesn't like person A (who happens to have brown skin and jetblack hair), and says 'why can't person A be more like person B' (who also happens to have brown skin and jetblack hair), then the principle seems to be a racial one - i.e. person A and person B are only being compared because they share some superficial physical trait - i.e. a racial characteristic. The principle underlying your 'non-racist' bigot's comments is: if people share physical characteristics (i.e. if they are of the same 'race') then they should be the same. Furthermore, such a person assumes the right to make such judgements about how others should behave on the basis of racial characteristics - and promotes a rather assimilationist view - i.e. people from other 'races' are OK if they behave in accordance with their standards, and not OK if they don't. Eyedubya 08:07, 16 May 2007 (UTC)


 * You are right, good point. But, I used the "why couldn't they be like, blah, blah" -- but that is not what they say, I couldn't think of anything specific so I wrote that. But that was not a good example of why I believe it is not racism. It was the behavior of the group, not the group's color. I couldn't explain better without taking about another thousand words. Sorry. Bigotry does not always have to do with race, neither does prejudice. I won't give examples, because I can't keep it short. Cheers! - Jeeny Talk 15:05, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

ps: do not move the conversation so "interested observers" can follow it to MY page. Use your own. Or bring it to the article's talk page. I do not want racists here. Thanks - Jeeny Talk 16:33, 16 May 2007 (UTC)


 * My apologies - its just that's where it started, I don't want racists on my page either! Eyedubya 00:22, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
 * No problem. lmao! You made me laugh out loud. Thanks! :) - Jeeny Talk 00:42, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

Link not working?
Hello. I noticed that a recent edit made by you on the Black Irish article implies there was nothing wrong with the link to the worldhaplotype.pdf. Not true. If you observe prior edits, you'll notice that there were 2 seperate references (i.e., 3 and 6) for the same link used in different sections of the article. There should only be one reference, which is why it was modified. Now you can select a or b next to the citation (i.e., 3).

--ArmsHeldOut 13:22, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

The English language?
The "essay" on my userpage is but a disjointed rant by User:Ammbaani that first appeared in the English language article. I thought it was fun... &mdash; JackLumber /tɔk/ 20:44, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Ahh, lol! Thanks! - Jeeny Talk 20:47, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
 * The funny thing is, those errors are probably intentional. That Ammbaani guy must be a genius. &mdash;  JackLumber /tɔk/ 21:03, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
 * LOL, okay. I'm not having a good English day anyway. I've been making mistakes left and right. I have no bizness correcting anything. I bet the genius is you, though. - Jeeny Talk 21:07, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

I'm blocked?
It says someone is using my IP. Names come up I don't even know. I have a my own IP, it's not shared, and only one account. Hmmmm. It happened after I commented on the Talk:Yoghurt. Someone there called me "dumb" could that be it? WTH?? - Jeeny Talk 21:40, 17 May 2007 (UTC) help me It's a technical error and will be solved as soon as possible.. Cometstyles 21:52, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I was able to edit another page, though. Weird.

This is part of what I get while trying to comment on the yoghurt talk page and that is not my IP address. autoblock: IP address: 66.230.200.149 Blocking admin: David Gerard Autoblock ID: 504836 Original block reason: Autoblocked because your IP address was recently used by "Ymous". The reason given for Ymous's block is: "widespread trolling - - Jeeny Talk 21:58, 17 May 2007 (UTC)


 * It was a mistake by the Dev because he autoblocked the whole range of IP's by mistake and many were affected but it was solved and you can edit again.. Cometstyles 22:10, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks. :) BTW, what's "the Dev"? Short for "Devil"? Just kidding. :D - Jeeny Talk 22:13, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

Back to Jeeny: Thanks for caring. You're right. I may take the Wikiedit boxes off. And I don't know how to do layout really, and don't have the time to learn. Bellagio99 02:03, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

More on Libra
Yeah, it may be delusional on my part to assume there's research behind the topic, one way or another. :) DagnyB 03:25, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

Garrett Morgan
I finally got around to commenting on the Garrett A. Morgan page. I was embroiled in another debate over lists of works for authors for awhile (I had to defend them). So, I am now prepared to embroil myself in another debate. I hope what I said wasn't too controversial! Awadewit Talk 10:16, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

Inquisition
Please think before you edit, and do some background research before depending on your biases. Hobomojo 03:53, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
 * It is not my bias at all. It is my research, as I have provided reliable sources. And please do not break the WP:3RR rule. And please assume good faith. Thanks. - Jeeny Talk 03:56, 23 May 2007 (UTC)


 * you make 8 minor edits, and I revert them, thus I'm guilty of violating 3RR? Who is gaming the system here? Your sources are what? Blurbs on book jackets? As far as assuming good faith goes, do some research, look at the history of this article and others I've contributed to. You seem to be an agenda pushing gadfly rather than a serious researcher.Hobomojo 04:14, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

Question for you at Talk:Inquisition. ··coe l acan 05:40, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Okay, I've started the RFC. Remember "there is no deadline", so don't worry if things don't move quickly in either direction. Oh, also, be sure to read help:minor edit when you wake up; you're marking some things as minor edits that are not. Minor edits are only formatting changes and reverting of obvious vandalism ("huge cocks"). That's just a note for future editing. ··coe l acan 06:10, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
 * I guess there is going to be a "fight" on the Inquisition. Ironic, eh? The Inquisition DID use TORTURE, to covert others, not only Catholics. That is a misnomer, and it is propagation of the "myth" because the "Catholics", as being argued in this instance, were those who were coerced "under duress" and tortured to convert in the first place. I'm hesitant about putting this on the article's talk page, as of yet. As the editor is attacking my beliefs, my "bias" and using the argument that I came out of the blue disregarding the long hard work of others. (I don't see him discussing any "content" on the talk page... until recently)


 * And that my intent, knowledge and audacity, etc. of changing anything, especially introducing factual information, in one word, mind you, such as torture, is dismissed because I'm "new" to the article and "not a serious researcher"! Ah, this is Wikipedia, where anyone can edit, at any time and be bold, right? I'm preparing, as I will not let this one go ... I think.


 * Thanks for the feedback on minor edits. I was unclear a couple of times, as to when to use it, usually if I changed one word, or added links (not necessarily in this situation), but now that I have read the article on minor edits, I understand. Thanks again. - Jeeny Talk 16:25, 23 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Hobomojo is all over Talk:Inquisition for many months; but even if not, resist the temptation to talk about other contributors even when they're doing the same. I recommend in all whenever possible to avoid personal remarks (it's not always possible, but I think it is here). Just let that roll off you; it won't affect the end result of the encyclopedia anyway. It's okay to use content from off-line, but quotes from those books would be very helpful to see exactly what you're talking about. ··coe l acan 22:24, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

Re. Coptic font
I'm happy to help. Actually, what a great idea to have a page to break away from editing every now and then (you know how that gets). Also, where I usually edit, I don't bump into many women, so it was nice to see one around :) Best, — Zerida 05:50, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

Thank you...
...for signing that unsigned comment for me. :) DagnyB 02:21, 27 May 2007 (UTC)
 * You're welcome. :) - Jeeny Talk 02:22, 27 May 2007 (UTC)

Did you know?
...that User:Jeeny/Sandbox is indexed under Category:Boston neighborhoods and contains a copy of the Dorchester article? If this happened inadvertently, as I suspect (you aren't a Boston neighborhood, are you?), you may wish to delete it. Hertz1888 05:15, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
 * P.S. It is also indexed under six other categories that appear at the bottom of the page. Deleting these, at a minimum, would be considerate and prudent. Hertz1888 05:25, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Yikes, thanks. I forgot about that. I was going to do some fix ups. Thanks again, I'll delete it. Although, I kinda am a neighborhood. lol - Jeeny Talk 05:34, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

Faiyum
Hi Jeeny! I need your help and opinion in Talk:Faiyum. I spent hours refurbishing the articles about Faiyum and Faiyum Governorate, to find everything reverted later. I believe we should keep Faiyum for the city itself, and Faiyum Governorate for the surrounding region and whatever information pertains to it, including history, geography, archeology etc. Thanks. --Lanternix 17:08, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

User talk:1poomba1
I noticed the message you recently left to. Please remember to try not to bite the newcomers. If you see someone make a common mistake, try to politely point out what they did wrong and how to correct it. — Malik Shabazz (Talk | contribs) 17:58, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Thank you. The last edit was made within seconds of my warning, so I reverted it afterwards. Thanks again. :-) — Malik Shabazz (Talk | contribs) 18:09, 31 May 2007 (UTC)