User talk:Jeeny/Archive Aug 2007

A memorial and signage page for Jeeny has been placed on Geoking66's userpage for anyone who would like to leave a comment on Jeeny. On behalf of the dozens of editors that you have helped, it is very sad to see you gone Jeeny. We hope that your future endeavours serve you well and we can only hope that you come back. To anyone that contributed to what can be assumed as the racist discussion on the talk page that made Jeeny leave (from what we know), you have made Wikipedia lose an extremely valuable contributer, whether or not you liked her. Geoking 66 talk 09:59, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

Not gone just on vacation
I'm glad. --Kevin Murray 00:43, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
 * ROAR!!! lol. :) - Jeeny Talk 00:43, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Yes! Geoking 66 talk 00:55, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Thank god. We have Jeeny back. T (Formerly Known as FireSpike) 02:49, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
 * I'm very happy to hear that you'll be back - but take as much time as you need before returning! :) - zachinthebox 03:33, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
 * I'm really glad you're back! You do a great job! - Spyke1077 05:05, 18 August 2007 (UTC)

Do what you have to do
Sorry if I brought too much attention towards you, but this has happened to me before (with then well-known editor 9cds) and it's upsetting to see people go. I'm glad that you're back and do what you have to do to get your point across. Geoking 66 talk 00:56, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Don't be sorry. You had good intentions and I was very moved. My Mum always told me to accept complements graciously. I have a difficult time doing that. I'm sorry. Thank you so much! - Jeeny Talk 01:04, 18 August 2007 (UTC)

I did not vandel it the page at all. I would never do such a thing. I'm glad you came back. I knew you would, but just to say I don't have an older sister, I have 2 younger sisters and neither of there names is Alicia. Seth71 05:58, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Seth, I never thought you vandalized my page. I don't know who Alicia is or who she was referring too. I just assumed. Wrongly so. Anyway no one vandalized my page. Don't worry about it, OK? - Jeeny Talk 06:01, 18 August 2007 (UTC)

I don't know what happened to my other message, but I looked at your history trying to figure out where you came back to Wikipedia, and I saw where you said you thought Wikipedia was unreliable. I do think that there are a lot of pages that are incorrect and everything, but I do think there are some reliable pages on Wikipedia that can be used. You said it's just full of crap made by teenagers, and I mean some of i is, but not all of it. I mean I'm 16 and I don't really see why people would put up false information. I did not purposely vandal a page, it was before I discovered talk pages and I was trying to get a point across. I think since the white people page you have been looking at the negatives of wikipedia, but I still think for us who are seriously wanting to help inform people of numerous topics, I think we could make Wikipedia a reliable source of information, plus enjoy your time off Wikipedia, I mean this place can be such a soap opera lol. Seth71 06:58, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
 * LOL, yes it sure can be like a soap opera. Fun, heh? :) - Jeeny Talk 01:56, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

wikibreak
I too will be taking a wikibreak, but I still will edit till August, 30th. After that I may be off for a while. Seth71 16:32, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
 * OK, Seth. Take care. I guess you'll be off to school then. Hope all goes well. Stay cool. :) - Jeeny Talk 01:55, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

Schools part of it, but I'm moving, but my mom can't find no where to move so I have to stay with my grandpa and he doesn't have a computer. I'll have to stay with him till she finds a house. Seth71 05:24, 19 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Wow, I just noticed this. I'm sorry. That must be tough! At least you have grandpa. Still, starting school and all. I guess you have a lot on your shoulders. I'll be sending you and your mom good vibes hoping things get better. Hang in there. :) - Jeeny Talk —The preceding  signed but undated.

Big Brother 8
Who do you think is going home this week, Amber, Jameka, or maybe Jen like HOH/POV winner Danielle wants. Seth71 05:27, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

Eric and Jessica are now becoming more convinced that Amber is staying this week and Jen is going. Just wanted to know what you think. The paragraph at the bottom is about someone wanting you to help with the white people page. Will you actually go back there. He didn't know about your problem with the white people page so I told him that I didn't know if you would go back there after what happened with that page, but like I said he didn't know and since you ain't on as often I just decided to tell him that. Seth71 13:56, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

No!!!!!!! Danielle doesn't want to use the veto. Amber will go home then. I like Amber, she's my favorite. Seth71 15:13, 19 August 2007 (UTC)


 * No criticism here, but you realize you guys sound like two old ladies gossiping about their neigbours or their favorite daytime soap? Yah, you probably know that already. Good day!--Ramdrake 15:16, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

Ha I hate soaps. Seth71 15:35, 19 August 2007 (UTC)
 * LMAO! It is true, Seth. Although you hate soaps, we are talking like BB is. Big Brother is an "unscripted" ;) soap opera. LOL. - Jeeny Talk 16:04, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

can you help me?
When you have a chance, could you look at White people, especially the lengthy discussion (you ought to read the whole thing, although the most salient points are toward the end)here? I am especially concerned with Fourdee. The underlying issue is whether races (in this case, obviously, the white race) are biologically real or social constructions. I feel very confident in my grasp of both the sociological and genetic research and know that Fourdee is wrong, but I have tried very hard not to engage him on this. Instead, I have tried, consistently, to make the discussion about compliance with our core policies. Fourdee has been (in my opinion) consistently courteous. But I believe he is a racist, and it seems obvious to me (and my question is, will it be obvious to you too as you read through the discussion, and slowly see slight changes in his position/rationale) tht he is nothing more than a POV pusher who wishes to use Wikipedia articles as his own soap-box. I do not know if the situation is appropriate for an RfC. But I would (1) like to know whether you think my reading of him is right, or whether I am over-reacting, and (2) if you do think I am right, I would appreciate whatever support you consider appropriate. Thanks, Slrubenstein  |  Talk 11:01, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

And let me know if I can help you in any way. Slrubenstein  |  Talk 15:48, 19 August 2007 (UTC)


 * Hello, I am blocked, right now because of Fourdee. I lashed out at him for his obvious racist agenda and subtle baiting. In my opinion you are reading it exactly correct. Again, I can't help right now, but will soon. Thanks. - Jeeny Talk 15:54, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

Hi - I only just heard about your being blocked (which I must say is the very last thing i ever thought would happen at Wikipedia). If you can think of ways I can help, let me know. If you want to chat outside of Wikipedia you can e-mail me. Slrubenstein  |  Talk 16:00, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

Sorry you were blocked, hope you'll be back soon. Seth71 16:02, 19 August 2007 (UTC)
 * No problem. I'll be back in a few hours. :) - Jeeny Talk 19:15, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

Mediation Cabal Case
Hello, you have been listed as a potential participant in an informal mediation regarding a dispute over White people. The case page is listed at Mediation_Cabal/Cases/2007-08-19_White_people. I am looking over the case, and am willing to offer my assistance in this. If you are willing to participate in the mediation and willing to accept my offer to mediate, please let me know. Thank you, Ne ra n e i   (talk) 22:01, 19 August 2007 (UTC)
 * I'm interested but I'm blocked for the next few hours or so. - Jeeny Talk 22:29, 19 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Ok, I'm glad to see that you are willing to mediate. Thank you for accepting the offer, and we can get started as soon as everyone agrees and you are unblocked. By the way, I'm a new mediator, so please be patient with me. Thank you very much! Ne ra n e i   (talk) 22:52, 19 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Thank you. I will be very patient with you. Hang in there, this may be a tough ride. But, I'm sure you'll do very well. :) - Jeeny Talk 22:56, 19 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Ce qui se produit si les autres n'acceptent pas la médiation? - Jeeny Talk 23:31, 19 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Elle n'a pas lieu, malheureusement.--Ramdrake 23:32, 19 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Je doute d'eux volonté, dessus après des cas. Triste.- Jeeny Talk 23:37, 19 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Merci, j'espere que tous les personnes vont etre civil! Ne ra n e i   (talk) 23:40, 19 August 2007 (UTC)
 * I will, promise. :) - Jeeny Talk 23:44, 19 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Thank you! By the way, as an update, KarenAER has said she will not paticipate, so I am trying to talk to her. If you'd like, you can post preliminary opinions on the discussion page. Ne ra n e i   (talk) 23:46, 19 August 2007 (UTC)
 * She may be a he, but she/he refused in the past at other mediations. I cannot comment on the talk page. I'm blocked. I don't know what time my block expires. lol. I mean in my time (EST), - Jeeny Talk 23:49, 19 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Oh, ok. I understand, and I will try to talk to him/her. (by the way, I am female, just for reference.) :) I will check your block log, and tell you how long you're blocked for. Ne ra n e i   (talk)  —The preceding  signed but undated.
 * Merci! But tell me in my time it says 00:47 August 20 UTC. Does that mean in about an hour in my time (EST)? - Jeeny Talk 23:56, 19 August 2007 (UTC)
 * PS, I ask this because I see the times on this page, but the recent changes page times are different. So I don't know which time is correct. zomg. BTW, I'm a she too. We may be the only girls. Eek! - Jeeny Talk 23:58, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

I think it will be in about 5 hours. Should we speak to the blocking admin? And, are you still going to leave that wikibreak template up? Ne ra n e i  (talk) 00:02, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
 * 5 hours! Eek, I'll be in bed. Also the blocking admin has no internet service as per his talk page. Plus I insulted him too. :/ - Jeeny Talk 00:07, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Sit it out, enjoy the break. Tomorrow's a new day.--Ramdrake 00:08, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
 * That's bad. Until everyone responds, though, the mediation can't start, so we'd probably have to wait that long anyways. Will both of you be around tomorrow? Ne ra n e i   (talk) 00:11, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
 * It is bad. I was very frustrated because I felt I was set up, and I thought he didn't research it more thoroughly. And I told him this. So, my bad. I'll be here tomorrow, hopefully. - Jeeny Talk 00:18, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Ok, I'm glad you'll be back tomorrow, then hopefully everyone will have replied. Ne ra n e i   (talk) 00:20, 20 August 2007 (UTC)