User talk:Jeff G./Archives/2011/September

Another revert
Why did you revert my edits to http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=ASM_Headquarters_and_Geodesic_Dome&diff=447083202&oldid=447082822 stating that I need to use reliable sources? Did you bother to look at the sources I cited?

Every citation is reliable and I deleted NO content. It is all still there is appropriate sections User:GeaugaDM —Preceding undated comment added 04:10, 28 August 2011 (UTC).
 * You added over 8,300 bytes and increased the acreage without Edit Summaries.  —  Jeff G.  ツ  13:50, 28 August 2011 (UTC)
 * The figure change in acreage corresponds to the figure in the source: it was incorrect before GeaguaDM corrected it. The remaining material is certainly sourced. I've restored the edits. A lack of edit summaries is extremely annoying, but doesn't justify reversion in and of itself.&mdash;Kww(talk) 14:05, 28 August 2011 (UTC)
 * I agree that lack of edit summaries is annoying but it is not a justification to eliminate large pieces of sourced information. Also, it would help when you do revert please provide solid reasoning for your revert--it is exactly what you are asking others to do, it is only fair that you follow the same requests that you make of others. Best.--InvestorGuide (talk) 14:23, 1 September 2011 (UTC)
 * I apologize for not understanding that I needed to summarize my edits. I have read more of Wikipedia's instructions and will do a better job at documenting changes and addtions. Thank you GeaugaDM 28 Aug 2011
 * Thanks.  —  Jeff G.  ツ  15:59, 28 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I didn't see the earlier change to the acreage.  —  Jeff G.  ツ  15:59, 28 August 2011 (UTC)

Username
Welcome to Wikipedia and thank you for your contributions. However, I noticed that your username (InvestorGuide) may not meet Wikipedia's username policy. If you believe that your username does not violate our policy, please leave a note here explaining why. As an alternative, you may ask for a change of username, or you may simply create a new account to use for editing. Thank you. —  Jeff G. ツ  03:57, 1 September 2011 (UTC)
 * What's the problem with the name? Please provide a reason.--InvestorGuide (talk) 13:32, 1 September 2011 (UTC)
 * I added a reason on your user talk page.  —  Jeff G.  ツ  14:57, 1 September 2011 (UTC)

Apologies
I didn't mean to step on your edit with this reversion. I was attempting to revert the editor before you and your edit squeezed in front of it somehow. Sorry. My76Strat (talk) 07:51, 2 September 2011 (UTC)
 * No worries. I retagged Ben Gordon (Conrail) with A7 and G12, and the G12 stuck.  —  Jeff G.  ツ  21:52, 2 September 2011 (UTC)

thanks
Thanks for going back further in the revision history of Neil Francis (rugby union) and reverting to the appropriate spot. Hopefully your edit will hold - that page has been vandalized for over a week by people just blindly reverting everything. 98.248.194.216 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 20:28, 2 September 2011 (UTC).
 * You're welcome. To help avoid such unpleasantness in the future, please always use Edit Summaries.  —  Jeff G.  ツ  21:42, 2 September 2011 (UTC)

Jeff- keep to your own expertise.
Jeff- Regarding LOVE ADDICTION You are removing content that needs to be part of explaining the views and angles of love and addiction. Why? I don't know, but you need to stop deleting authors and experts like myself who adds to this article.

This is also true for Sex and Love Addiction- as they are very similar yet have distinct differences as well.

Seems to me you are trying to promote a friend or acquatance or whatever- or simply have controlling issues (re: you are not an expert in this field and have NO credibility to remove expert content- i.e., LOVE ADDICT TYPES! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Empowerloveaddiction (talk • contribs) 04:19, 3 September 2011 (UTC)
 * You removed referenced content in this edit. Please don't do that; instead please see WP:DR and WP:COI.  — Jeff G. (talk) 11:22, 3 September 2011 (UTC)

Please pay attention before reverting
You have three times accused me of making unconstructive edits and reverted them without even checking to see if the edits are accurate. I(f you check the individual wikipedia song pages (as I have) for each of the songs listed in the tables, you will see that the tables had the wrong name as the original artist and I changes it to the correct one as listed on those song pages. Please do some homework before making false allegations, especially when you do it three times in a row. 99.192.77.204 (talk) 01:30, 3 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Please see WP:WINARS.  —  Jeff G.  ツ  01:31, 3 September 2011 (UTC)
 * (1) I am not using Wikipedia as a source. The song pages have sources for the credits of original artists. (2) The names of artists I am replacing have no sources offered on the page for their legitimacy, so if you don't like my changes you should like the information I am replacing even less. 99.192.77.204 (talk) 01:39, 3 September 2011 (UTC)
 * I think you are missing the point. As I understand it, the "original artist" is the one who popularized the rendition the contestant is trying to emulate, not the original person to record the song before it became popular, not the composer, and not the lyricist.  —  Jeff G.  ツ  01:41, 3 September 2011 (UTC)
 * No, I am not missing the point. The word "original" means "first". The discussion of which artist to list and what "original" means has been discussed many many times on the AI pages over the last several years. Have you participated in any of those discussions? I have. Have you even read any of those discussions? My edits are correct. If you wish to research the AI pages more to be sure of that, please feel free to go ahead. The discussions, in all their detail, are there to be looked at. 99.192.77.204 (talk) 01:45, 3 September 2011 (UTC)
 * What username did you use when participating in those discussions?  —  Jeff G.  ツ  01:47, 3 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Most of the time I have not used a username. My IP address shows up as either starting "142 or "99.192". But when I do need to log in to make any edits I have used the name "142 and 99". Why do you ask? Does it matter? If you would like to check with another editor for verification that I am right about this, try User:Aspects. He/She does a lot more general editing of AI pages than I do. 99.192.77.204 (talk) 01:56, 3 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Details of where the discussion was (so I can find it) would be nice. I threw Aspects a talkback notice.  —  Jeff G.  ツ  02:15, 3 September 2011 (UTC)
 * There was more than one discussion on more than one talk page. I can't say specifically where, as they were a while ago, but I'm sure Aspects will explain help. 99.192.77.204 (talk) 02:20, 3 September 2011 (UTC)

(outdent)Here are a couple of discussions from the last two seasons, although that last one does not seem to reach any sort of conclusion so I guess the status quo was kept, Talk:American Idol (season 9) and Talk:American Idol (season 10). My personal opinion can be seen in the season 9 talk page where I would advocate for an artist matching the theme, but accept that original artist causes the fewest arguments. But I went along with the consensus that as long as an artist has to be named, it should be the original one. I have not looked at 99's recent edits, so I cannot comment on them specifically, since I am behind on my checking of my watchlist due to another edits I felt I had to make. Aspects (talk) 04:17, 3 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks, that's a lot of discussion. Perhaps it would be best to scrap that column, and maybe include a theme-specific column, like movie, artist, year born, etc.  —  Jeff G. ツ  (talk)   21:42, 6 September 2011 (UTC)

Question
I have observed some pretty remarkable contributions from this account. I am curious, why are you not an administrator. Pardon that you have struck me as the kind of editor who could be a good one, and that you seem qualified by a cursory review. I worked out an essay, and I believe you are of the adman class. I'd like to see you become an admin. This essay explains, but you are exactly the kind of editor I had in mind when writing it. My76Strat (talk) 01:54, 3 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the compliments. I would welcome your input about User:Jeff G./2011 RfA at User talk:Jeff G./2011 RfA.  —  Jeff G.  ツ  02:03, 3 September 2011 (UTC)
 * It is great to see that adminship is a thing you are considering. No one can accuse you of being over eager as your last edit to that page was 5 months ago. I would not republish the earlier nominations as they are considered stale. You are fully qualified to self nominate with confidence, or if you prefer request a current nomination at WP:RRN which you should have no trouble finding. I would happily nominate you myself, but suggest you avoid the astigmatism some would acquire by such an association. I would trim some of the accolades to which you are entitled, focusing primarily on your involvement on en-Wikipedia. Some would find this enough cause to accuse hat collecting as a motive. Undoubtedly you will face some opposition from a particular class of participant who enjoys minimizing the qualifications of others, but I believe your contributions are strong enough to overcome their opposition which will likely come across as petty. Strike while the iron is hot, which it glows in white right now, and avoid defending yourself against any opposition which might arise. Your supporters will support you and rebut opposition with mitigation as necessitated. Now go get the tools, and join the ranks of the respected admin, which I am confident you will fulfill. My76Strat (talk) 02:41, 3 September 2011 (UTC)
 * One other thing, I suggest you revert to the default signature for the entirety of your nomination as that will avoid 1 or 2 opposes which would almost certainly arise from the sub-group who find custom signatures problematic. My76Strat (talk) 02:45, 3 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks, does this look default enough?  — Jeff G. 02:50, 3 September 2011 (UTC)
 * When the sub-group whines, it is primarily regarding the obscure link to your talk page which requires hovering over the letter to realize the link. They absolutely want to see a link that says "talk". My76Strat (talk) 02:55, 3 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Ok, but I was very attached to User:Jeff G./talk, which has been linked over 26,000 times.  — Jeff G. (talk) 03:14, 3 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Would it be ok to link "talk" to User:Jeff G./talk?  — Jeff G. (talk) 17:37, 6 September 2011 (UTC)
 * I believe that would also be fine. My76Strat (talk) 19:15, 6 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks. The discussion at User talk:Jeff G./2011 RfA is mostly a continuation of this discussion.  —  Jeff G. ツ  (talk)   20:31, 6 September 2011 (UTC)

Huggle
Forgot you were the guy who fixed the longlasting vandalism the other day. Sorry for being grumpy. But still, please watch out for introducing commercial links. 98.248.194.216 (talk) 06:41, 5 September 2011 (UTC)
 * OK.  — Jeff G. (talk) 17:25, 6 September 2011 (UTC)

Thanks
Thanks for the look out. An unpleasant piece of work, it seems. I have posted a block request at ANI. Best wishes Span (talk) 20:44, 5 September 2011 (UTC)
 * You're welcome. Hopefully, they don't do it again by socking to avoid their block. N.B. you forgot to sign this edit.  — Jeff G. (talk) 17:34, 6 September 2011 (UTC)

American Goldfinch
The information I removed was nonsensical. I have removed it again. 136.152.179.5 (talk) 17:20, 6 September 2011 (UTC)
 * It looks coherent to me.  — Jeff G. (talk) 17:24, 6 September 2011 (UTC)
 * "Phylogeny. It has been obtained by Antonio Arnaiz-Villena."  Phylogeny - I can has it? It's 100% unclear what the sentence is intended to mean currently. I'm sure the guy was trying to make a legitimate addition to the article, but as it is it makes no sense and adds no value to the article.  I don't have time to dig through the paper to figure out what he meant to say currently.  He probably means something like "Antonio Arnaiz-Villena compared DNA from the american goldfinch with closely related species to build a phylogentic tree" - but that's not at all clear that that is what the sentence is intended to mean.  It would not be acceptable for us to assume that this is the intended meaning of the sentence unless one of us reads the paper - if we were wrong, it would be misattributing information to a source.  Feel free to read the whole text of the paper and fix the sentence if you want, but unless you do, it should stay out. 136.152.179.5 (talk) 17:33, 6 September 2011 (UTC)
 * OK, leave it out until then.  —  Jeff G. ツ  (talk)   21:39, 6 September 2011 (UTC)

Excuse me
Hello. I am the creator of the Arnold O. Beckman High School page. I understand the deletion of the pcitures, due to the copyright issues. But I do not understand the meaning of deleting the information concerning band and orchestra. If you have not noticed, the band is only talking about Marching Band. There are in fact three bands: Marching, Jazz, and Wind Ensemble. By deleting the articles, you have deleted any more knowledge towards the school. It is not right to show just one side of things, but all sides. You obviously have no deep knowledge of the school. So I suggest you rethink your reversion.

Axir (talk) 00:34, 7 September 2011 (UTC)Axir
 * Is that info from a reliable source? Can we verify it?  Thanks!    —  Jeff G. ツ  (talk)   00:34, 7 September 2011 (UTC)

Proof of Arnold O. Beckman High School
http://beckmanmusic.org/

This is the website of proof for Arnold O. Beckman High School's band/orchestra facts. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Axir (talk • contribs) 00:39, 7 September 2011 (UTC)
 * That is not a reliable source. Please read WP:RS.    —  Jeff G. ツ  (talk)   00:41, 7 September 2011 (UTC)

RE: Thin Blue Line
Someone vandalized the page to change the story of Erol Morris' documentary subject to that of the TV series A-Team, I was trying to revert the edit but I guess I messed it up. Either way I can assure you Adams did not escape from prison and become a mercenary, he was released from jail in 1989 :P — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.123.1.132 (talk) 02:08, 7 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I'm having trouble following you. Is that info from a reliable source?  Can we verify it?  Thanks!    —  Jeff G. ツ  (talk)   02:41, 8 September 2011 (UTC)

Ethel Wood
Dear sir, here you have a liable source like the one about which you commented on my discussion page ttp://s3.invisionfree.com/The_110_Club/ar/t2608.htm. Yours sincerely — Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.214.35.142 (talk) 19:04, 7 September 2011 (UTC)
 * A message board post and a post to a closed Yahoo! Group do not make for a reliable source (which link please see). "", on the other hand, is a reliable source.  —  Jeff G. ツ  (talk)   02:25, 8 September 2011 (UTC)

IP
Hi, FYI User talk:76.4.176.205 cleaned up prev messages, is rampant now. History2007 (talk) 03:32, 8 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks, it's blocked for two weeks.  — Jeff G. ツ  (talk)  20:55, 8 September 2011 (UTC)

WP:India Education Program/Leaderboard
Hi Jeff, thanks for your vigilance in reverting vandalism -- Frank Schulenburg's edit to this page, though, was correct. The India Education Program team (which includes Frank and me) are temporarily disabling the Leaderboard. Thanks! -- LiAnna Davis (WMF) (talk) 19:20, 9 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Sorry about that.  —  Jeff G. ツ  (talk)   00:55, 10 September 2011 (UTC)

Hi Jeff
Hello Jeff,

What is a user to do when the update is common information? In this case, there is a newer "modified" Ravitch procedure available, although there have been no case studies performed just yet.

Thank you in advance! =) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Xodusboy (talk • contribs) 14:57, 10 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Get a respected journalist or researcher to write about it and get the writing published. Please see WP:RS and WP:OR.  —  Jeff G. ツ  (talk)   14:59, 10 September 2011 (UTC)

Edward Bloor
Can you revert this page back to this revision: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Edward_Bloor&oldid=439939110, please?--98.244.158.25 (talk) 03:19, 11 September 2011 (UTC) Thank you.--98.244.158.25 (talk) 03:23, 11 September 2011 (UTC)
 * You're welcome.  —  Jeff G. ツ  (talk)   03:23, 11 September 2011 (UTC)

User:Qingxin
Hi Jeff,

There are several other articles this editor is making equally useless changes to. It'd be great if you could check Qingxin's contributions so it's not just me edit warring with him on the rest. I'm not quite to the point of asking for a block, but I'm getting there. — kwami (talk) 03:51, 11 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Not right now, sorry.  —  Jeff G. ツ  (talk)   04:00, 11 September 2011 (UTC)

Lowell Bekker article
Hello Jeff, I'd like to discuss with you why you believe the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lowell_Bekker article should be deleted. The radio station sources could be easily constituted as reliable sources. Furthermore, it complies with WP:MUSICBIO, section #11 of the first part. ("Has been place in rotation nationally by any major radio network") Thank you :] --Beastphones (talk) 00:20, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Discussion of this matter is on one page, Articles for deletion/Lowell Bekker.  —  Jeff G. ツ  (talk)   11:29, 14 September 2011 (UTC)

72.75.90.72
This guy's persistant. I intend to remain on this one until he's blocked. Calabe1992 (talk) 03:10, 15 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Good job, he's blocked. :)  —  Jeff G. ツ  (talk)   03:11, 15 September 2011 (UTC)

Thanks!
I am new to wikipedia and don't want to be deleted. Please help me add references the correct way. Why cant i link to websites where i am getting the info from? [iamawesome] — Preceding unsigned comment added by Iamawesome100 (talk • contribs) 03:48, 15 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Please read User talk:Iamawesome100 and the pages linked on it.  —  Jeff G. ツ  (talk)   03:50, 15 September 2011 (UTC)

Thank you
I appreciate you catching and reverting the vandalism on my userpage... twice. Trusilver 06:31, 17 September 2011 (UTC)
 * You're welcome... twice. :)  —  Jeff G. ツ  (talk)   15:01, 17 September 2011 (UTC)

Stivian
He was already up to a level 3 warning today for his vandalism of my talk page (which has included faking comments over my signature). DuncanHill (talk) 15:37, 18 September 2011 (UTC)
 * ... and he's been blocked for 24 hours.  —  Jeff G. ツ  (talk)   16:13, 18 September 2011 (UTC)

DOING A PROJECT
Hello,

I'm doing a project. I was not done finishing this page. I was gathering a reference list tag so that I could finish citing my sources. By you deleting all my information I almost lost all the information I worked on for a school Project. I am a college student and this project is very time consuming. Please allow time before changing any of my edits. Thank You!

Rojast07 (talk) 02:10, 19 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Please stop removing "For the drama, see The Family Honor." Where are you getting the information you are adding?  —  Jeff G. ツ  (talk)   02:14, 19 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Please take care and avoid biting the newbies. The added text is not plagiarized; and it looking at that editor edits makes it quite clear he is attempting to cite a book; but haven't figured out how to indicate page numbers. which he tries to do with parenthesis. It is always good to engage the new editors, but it is advisable to engage them in a less templates and more constructive manner. A correct approach to helping an editor would be to tell them how to indicate page ranges in a citation templates, not to revert them, and template them with blank warnings. As WMF studies on editor retention show, being friendly turns new editors into, well, editors, scaring them away turns them into non-editors. Please keep that in mind. We would love to have an experienced Wikipedian like you helping students (see WP:AMBASSADOR for more on that), but please keep in mind that templated warnings =/= help. PS. I'd also note that one cannot expect new editors to have a habit of check other talk pages (they don't get notifications when you reply here), so please respond on their page so they get the proper notification. I realize you ask editors to do so on your talk page notice, but again, many newbies are unlikely to understand why and how of that, particularly as you may be the first person they've talked to using wikis. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; talk to me 03:31, 19 September 2011 (UTC)

do not VANDALIZE MY TALK PAGE
--Rullekake (talk) 04:00, 21 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Relax, Rullekake. He didn't vandalize your talk page: see WP:VANDAL for a more accurate description of what is considered vandalism on WP. However, I agree with you that the edit that seemed to "set you off" concerning Bidgee is concerning. This revert of you was not something that should have been reverted and warned at all that I can see. Bidgee? Are you watching? Doc   talk  04:08, 21 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Precisely. --Rullekake (talk) 22:06, 21 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Under what circumstances would adding a space between a full stop and a ref tag be appropriate? I think I remember reading that it was inappropriate in WP:MOS.  —  Jeff G. ツ  (talk)   04:34, 21 September 2011 (UTC)
 * You and Bidgee are overreacting. NO damage was done, but you and your pal only want notoriety, apparently. Will this behavior help with your strong desires to achieve adminship? Gosh. --Rullekake (talk) 22:06, 21 September 2011 (UTC)
 * But I will assume good faith, It's the best for everybody. Cheers, --Rullekake (talk) 22:13, 21 September 2011 (UTC)
 * You should start assuming good faith now by letting this go away quickly. Bidgee doesn't want you posting to his page, which is his right per WP:BLANKING. It's best now to just move along and edit productively. Doc   talk  22:57, 21 September 2011 (UTC)
 * That's my plan. It's shameful that Bidgee doesn't face me like a man, sending messengers instead. What a [redacted]. Thanks anyway. --Rullekake (talk) 01:16, 22 September 2011 (UTC)
 * He didn't send any messengers. Don't attack him by calling him childish names; and just carry on. Doc   talk  02:04, 22 September 2011 (UTC)

Final Fantasy VII name changes
I changed the name Yazoo to Azul on Advent Children and Sephiroth (Final Fantasy) and I see these changes have been reverted. I can tell you, 100% positively, that Yazoo is an incorrect name, and I am not vandalising the page. Can you please explain to me why you are deleting these edits? — Preceding unsigned comment added by J3N0VACALAMITY (talk • contribs) 20:44, 21 September 2011 (UTC)

User:Bruno corinthiano
Hi there JEFF, VASCO here, longtime no see,

unfortunately, vandalism again is what brings me to your attention (since i see you have reverted this vandal minutes ago): this "user" has had an anon IP blocked for unexplained removal of contents in boxes of players and introductions (please see here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/177.0.204.119), the original account (BRUNO) has also served two blocks, he does not care, he continues, did his deed also in Rúben Micael.

Attentively, keep it up - --Vasco Amaral (talk) 03:50, 22 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks, but can you please help me find the original account name (it's not User:BRUNO)?  —  Jeff G. ツ  (talk)   03:55, 22 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Please see above, User:Bruno corinthiano, you reverted him at Javier Paredes. --Vasco Amaral (talk) 03:56, 22 September 2011 (UTC)

Can you please stop reverting my changes on Shaman and All That I Am, those two albums are Santana's eighteenth and nineteenth albums respectively. Take a look at the rest of the discography. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.32.45.191 (talk) 03:52, 22 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Ok, but can you please indicate that information in your Edit Summaries?  —  Jeff G. ツ  (talk)   03:59, 22 September 2011 (UTC)

Quotes supporting Inanna as planet Venus
I've declined your CSD tag on Quotes supporting Inanna as planet Venus; the crucial segment of "short article lacking suffient information to identify its subject" is "short article"; it makes the subject fairly clear in the title alone; quotes supporting the idea that Inanna was represented by or consisted of the planet Venus. Take it to AfD. Ironholds (talk) 01:38, 24 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Might it be better to merge that content with article Inanna?  —  Jeff G. ツ  (talk)   01:41, 24 September 2011 (UTC)
 * I'll leave that to your discretion. Ironholds (talk) 02:00, 24 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Given my lack of expertise on the subject, I've suggested a merge at Talk:Inanna.  —  Jeff G. ツ  (talk)   02:11, 24 September 2011 (UTC)

Thanks
Thanks, for reverting the personal attack, Jeff.  Wayne  Slam 02:42, 24 September 2011 (UTC)
 * You're welcome.  —  Jeff G. ツ  (talk)   02:43, 24 September 2011 (UTC)

Replaceable fair use File:Jani Lane.jpg
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User:Rojast07
So I would like to ask why you keep removing my information from the talk page? I'm trying to do a project for a class and you're making it difficult. Is there a problem with my information? Please let me know thanks.

I'm sorry. I left the previous message but did not sign. Once again, please let me know what the issue is here.

Rojast07 (talk) 19:51, 25 September 2011 (UTC)

I received your message. I got my information from a reputable book and did cite the information. It's a book that contains information about honor within families, cultures, etc. I'm going to put the information back up and if you have a problem with my citation let me know. Thanks.

P.S. I'd appreciate if you wouldn't erase my information.

Rojast07 (talk) 19:56, 25 September 2011 (UTC)
 * I have done nothing of the sort since 02:05 (UTC) on the 19th. I only wrote to you after that to notify you and apologize at 15:19 that day.  —  Jeff G. ツ  (talk)   00:52, 26 September 2011 (UTC)

Edit on 'Contagion' movie page
Hi, My edit intends to show the error that crept into the movie cast list. I do not know how to fix the cast pane. So I added a comment to the Plot section to fix the casting list on the right. Please feel free to remove my comment and please fix the cast list (replace Mark Wahlberg with Matt Damon). Thanks Kal — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.29.242.58 (talk) 03:47, 26 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Sorry about that. While I appreciate your intentions, your methods could use improvement:
 * We don't comment on article pages, we comment on talk and other discussion-type pages, like Talk:Contagion (film).
 * We read the messages posted on our user talk pages carefully, and follow the links in those messages.
 * And we don't blindly revert the ClueBots.
 * I have reverted the vandalism that concerned you, and the warnings on your user talk page.  —  Jeff G. ツ  (talk)   14:54, 26 September 2011 (UTC)

== The Trail of tears is a Historically inaccurate name for the Trail of BLOOD and Tears. this needs to be corrected immediately. I tried to fix myself, and you would not allow. Trying to edit out Blood from the true name is wrong. Fix it now. ==

I had family who were beaten on the Trail of Blood and Tears. They BLED on the trail of blood and tears. A lot of Indians did not survive because of the Brutal treatment they endured. Does Wiki want to hide this? The trail of Blood and Tears was an American Indian Holocaust. To edit out the word "Blood" is very disrespectful to those who suffered and the Families who died and those who barely survived this travesty. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.228.80.4 (talk) 03:16, 28 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Sorry, but you changed the name of the image reference, without changing the name of the image file. You may try to justify changing the name of the image file on its associated talk page.  —  Jeff G. ツ  (talk)   03:19, 28 September 2011 (UTC)

The more accurate Name The Trail of Blood and Tears
I Corrected the name again and was given a level 2 warning by Falcon8765 for filling out Wiki's own request as to "WHY DID YOU MAKE THESE CHANGES" Why do they ask, if all they are going to do is REPRIMAND you for telling them WHY??? This system is flawed and I need my Complaint escalated to a higher up.

want a few references for the True Historically Accurate name "The Trail Of Blood And Tears"??

1.) http://www.ex@miner.com/foreign-policy-in-baltimore/prayers-held-for-independence-of-balochistan-from-pakistan-iran-u-s-church

9th Paragraph: "The A.F.B. activist recalled the atrocities meted out to the Native Americans in United States two centuries ago in the Trail of Blood and Tears of Cherokee Indians, the Sand Creek Massacre of November 29, 1864 and the massacre of the Yuki of Northern California (1856-1860). "The situation in Balochistan today is an exact replica of those sad chapters of U.S. history and you can help us stop this," the A.F.B. activist urged the gathering."

2.) http://www.dailycabal.com/2008/09/a-quiet-trail-of-blood-and-tears/ "A Quiet Trail of Blood and Tears" by Ken Brady

3.) http://www.nowpublic.com/world/open-letter-native-americans-please-help-baluchistan#ixzz1ZDNOLmvE 2nd Paragraph: "A.F.B. members Rashid Baloch and Malik Baloch on Thursday drew a parallel between the trail of blood and tears of the Native Americans to the gruesome happenings in Baluchistan, where the Baluch are engaged in a heroic struggle to regain their statehood."

4.) http://www.asociatedcontent.com/article/2245125/band_of_sisters_united_by_a_trail_of.html?cat=9 "Band of Sisters United by a Trail of Blood and Tears"

71.228.80.4 (talk) 04:13, 28 September 2011 (UTC)

— Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.228.80.4 (talk) 04:01, 28 September 2011 (UTC)


 * As Jeff said, you may try to discuss on the talk page of the article...however, I can tell you that none of these qualify as reliable sources. I went to Google books and haven't turned up any reference supporting the statements that you are making. Maybe you might find one. ⋙–Berean–Hunter—►  04:21, 28 September 2011 (UTC)

http://books.google.com/books?id=SP8WAQAAMAAJ&q=Trail+of+blood+and+tears+%2B+native+american&dq=Trail+of+blood+and+tears+%2B+native+american&hl=en&ei=nKeCTrz0DM6XtwfjkvH4AQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=8&ved=0CFIQ6AEwBw

Reliable Enough?! 71.228.80.4 (talk) 04:55, 28 September 2011 (UTC)


 * No. All of those words are on that page but not together in the phrase that you are claiming. All that shows is that the word blood shows up on the page that Trail of Tears shows up. ⋙–Berean–Hunter—►  05:01, 28 September 2011 (UTC)

http://www.google.com/search?tbm=bks&tbo=1&q=Trail+of+blood+and+tears+%2B+native+american&btnG=#sclient=psy-ab&hl=en&tbo=1&tbm=bks&source=hp&q=%22Trail+of+blood+and+tears%22&pbx=1&oq=%22Trail+of+blood+and+tears%22&aq=f&aqi=&aql=1&gs_sm=e&gs_upl=21216l21700l5l22370l2l2l0l0l0l0l203l312l0.1.1l2l0&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&fp=2ba85e9b8f16205f&biw=1112&bih=545

http://www.google.com/search?tbm=bks&tbo=1&q=Trail+of+blood+and+tears+%2B+native+american&btnG=#sclient=psy-ab&hl=en&tbo=1&tbm=bks&source=hp&q=%22Trail+of+blood+and+tears%22+cherokee&pbx=1&oq=%22Trail+of+blood+and+tears%22+cherokee&aq=f&aqi=&aql=1&gs_sm=e&gs_upl=28189l30279l6l30482l9l9l1l0l0l0l202l937l1.5.1l8l0&fp=1&biw=1112&bih=545&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&cad=b

2 more for ya then. 71.228.80.4 (talk) 05:42, 28 September 2011 (UTC)

James Colin Macdonald
hey! the afd template is not showing up on the article page. just thought i'd let you know. &mdash; alf.laylah.wa.laylah (talk) 05:30, 28 September 2011 (UTC)
 * i guess that problem solved itself... cheers! &mdash; alf.laylah.wa.laylah (talk) 05:50, 28 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks, its author seemed confused.  —  Jeff G. ツ  (talk)   03:10, 29 September 2011 (UTC)

Question
Hi Jeff G, is there a way to find out how the wiki markup buttons could work properly again when I am contributing? I have the impresseion, the longer I contribute, the less stuff is working. O:-) Lotje ツ (talk) 09:25, 29 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Which buttons, skin, browser, and OS are you trying to use?  —  Jeff G. ツ  (talk)   12:16, 29 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Never mind... Taking into consideration I am one of the doubtable happy few remaining from the 286, 2007 First edit session editors, without much visible assistance from adopters, and not having been blocked till now, I guess I may call myself an internetwhateverisnevertobe specimen. Gosh, what am I doing here. O:-) [[User:Lotje|Lotje ツ] (talk) 13:44, 29 September 2011 (UTC)

UAA
Hey Jeff! I noticed you removed a large portion of the user reported usernames at UAA. I'm guessing this was an accident as your edit note just says that's you're reporting a user. It may have been a Twinkle error or something. I'd fix it but I'm worried I'll screw things up somehow. Just thought I'd let you know in case you wanted to try and fix it.  Ol Yeller Talktome 18:53, 29 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Sorry about that. All fixed now.  —  Jeff G. ツ  (talk)   03:58, 30 September 2011 (UTC)