User talk:Jeff G./Archives/2017/November

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 * Thanks.  — Jeff G. ツ 02:22, 7 November 2017 (UTC)

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 * Thanks.  — Jeff G. ツ 02:22, 7 November 2017 (UTC)

Additions to "Water cycle" page undone -- Questions
Greetings Jeff,

I hope all is well my friend. Recently, my edit to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_cycle was removed. (By the way, I greatly appreciate you reaching out to inform me of the retraction that was made, rather than doing so silently.) Here is what the page looked like prior to the retraction: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Water_cycle&oldid=809113647

As you can see, the part I had added, under the "Source of rain" section within the "History of hydrologic cycle theory" subcategory, is the following:

''The source of rain is further discussed in the biblical book of Isaiah: "For as the rain and the snow come down from heaven, and do not return there without watering the earth and making it bear and sprout, and furnishing seed to the sower and bread to the eater; so will My word be which goes forth from My mouth. It will not return to Me empty, without accomplishing what I desire, and without succeeding in the matter for which I sent it." (Isaiah 55:10-11).''

My addition is not, IMHO, misplaced or out of context, as the section contains other biblical references (which are, as it happens, all appropriate) -- they all discuss the ancient Israelite's conception on the source of rain via their perspectives some 2,500 to 3,000 years ago, which is highly historically relevant in context of the ancient understanding of the hydrological cycle. The Isaiah 55:10-11 verses build on the foundation already in place within the subcategory in an important way. Namely, these verses appear to actually discuss an early understanding of not only the source of rain, but further, evaporation itself (". . .the rain and the snow come down from heaven, and do not return there without watering the earth and making it bear and sprout . . .").

Notably, this quote is also from the New American Standard Bible (NASB), widely considered by many scholars to be the most literally accurate English rendition of the ancient Hebrew to date -- though perhaps at the expense of some elegance found within the KJV and similar translations. (For example: Daniel B. Wallace, American professor of New Testament Studies at Dallas Theological Seminary, and founder and executive director of the Center for the Study of New Testament Manuscripts, considers the NASB to be one of the go-to translations when "accuracy" is at stake. ).

Is the problem, perhaps that I left in the allegory to the "Word of God" within the Isaiah passage, for purposes of context? At the time, I felt this would better inform the passage -- but I would be happy to remove it if you feel that to be necessary.

Overall, I feel that Isaiah 55:10-11 is a substantially important piece of data in the "History of hydrologic cycle theory" subcategory, and, on balance I cannot understand why it would be removed.

Any corrective action you could take or advise me to take (or alternatively, if you cannot, then a proper explanation therefor), would be greatly appreciated.

My apologies for the length of this message -- I am sure you are a busy man. I just happen to be passionate about this topic. Thank you very much for your time and consideration. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.234.38.132 (talk) 14:01, 8 November 2017 (UTC)


 * Thank you for that information, I put your additions back in.  — Jeff G. ツ 23:47, 8 November 2017 (UTC)

Fantastic Services
Well it isn't the same article but it's just as spammy as the previous one so I've deleted it. Thanks for pointing it out.  Hut 8.5  16:03, 25 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Thank you.  — Jeff G. ツ 16:38, 25 November 2017 (UTC)

New Page Reviewing
I notice that you have the "administrator someday" userbox. Reviewing new pages is one of the best ways to develop experience needed to successfully wield the mop. —  Insertcleverphrasehere (or here)  10:26, 27 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Thank you, I have accepted the invitation and gotten the right.  — Jeff G. ツ 11:41, 28 November 2017 (UTC)

New page reviewer granted
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 * Thank you.  — Jeff G. ツ 11:42, 28 November 2017 (UTC)