User talk:Jeff Muscato

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Congratulations
Good on you for your constant and rigorous grammatical corrections. Something that won't be picked up by anything but a cognitive check is to be valued. MartinSFSA (talk) 07:13, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

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September 2008
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Your edit of the article "China Kantner"
I have reverted your edits to the article on China Kantner, as you have edited what was in fact an exact quote from an outside source (a book), and not original content. In order to maintain the accuracy of this article, this quote should NOT be edited in any way. Emma white20 (talk) 15:39, 27 October 2008 (UTC)


 * I did not and do not see an indication that those sentences are direct quotations. If they are, they should have quotation marks or be in block quotes.  If you mean just the parts that are already in quotation marks, I did not edit their punctuation.  For example, in this sentence (An article in Rolling Stone, published a few weeks before China arrived—and before Grace found out the baby was a girl—said, "Their son, who will be named 'god, just god,' has grown large inside her.") I changed incorrect hyphens to correct em dashes, which were outside of the quotation. Jeff Muscato (talk) 06:34, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

AfD nomination of Will Sohn
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Rickrolling gender edits...
Jeff, do you have any different suggestions other than the Epicene they? It would be nice if, instead of just reverting the edits, we could fix the sentence(s)... Edit Centric (talk) 04:43, 30 November 2008 (UTC)
 * He is the standard for masculine or neutral/unknown/both in English. Jeff Muscato (talk) 04:48, 30 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Could you clarify that for me, since I may be missing something here? Who's standard? (No, really. If it's a Wikipedia convention to use the masculine term, then all is cool. However, if like the REST of 21st century society, we're adapting to use more gender-neutral terms, it needs to be changed...) Edit Centric (talk) 15:43, 30 November 2008 (UTC)
 * I think it's the standard of any writing or encyclopedia—pretty much, anything for which there is a stylistic standard. They is plural.  You can use "one" or "he or she" if you really want to be entirely neutral, but "he" alone is also neutral. As I understand Wikipedia is to be written with the quality of a written text, not in the casual style in which some of us speak. Jeff Muscato (talk) 04:33, 1 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Ah, gotcha. Okay, so he or she would be the preferred modification then. Cool beans! Edit Centric (talk) 14:30, 1 December 2008 (UTC)
 * While some prefer the cumbersome he or she, often it's used only on the first mention. Subsequent mentions usually revert to he. Jeff Muscato (talk) 00:24, 2 December 2008 (UTC)
 * You're not entirely right about "they" always being plural. -  Jeremy  ( v^_^v Cardmaker ) 05:16, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

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Friends
Hi there. While I appreciate your edits to Friends, I was forced to revert most of them because of the amount of links. We only need to link words which are unclear to the average reader, so words like "children" and "marriage" do not need them. Otherwise, the whole page would practically be linked, which doesn't look very nice. :)  Corn.u. co.pia  •  Disc.u s.sion   02:09, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

Singular they
I believe we typically use the "singular they" in policies and guidelines - whether or not it is strictly grammatically sound. –xeno talk 05:16, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Can you point me to guidelines about this? I'm working in good faith but including the singular "they" seems very informal for an encyclopedia. Jeff Muscato (talk) 05:21, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
 * I don't believe we've codified this as such, but simply look at any number of policy or guideline pages which employ it (WP:BLOCK, etc). Also, as I pointed out at WT:Vandalism, strict adherence to formal grammar isn't necessary outside article-space imo. –xeno talk 05:24, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
 * There are plenty of real articles for me to spend time editing so I'm not especially adamant about this non-article, but I don't see any advantage or benefit to the singular "they." It might please the PC crowd but it's unnecessary and occasionally can cause confusion with number.  "He" is always clear because it's never incorrect and the number never disagrees.  "He" to mean "some unknown person" (male or female) is well-established and understood. Jeff Muscato (talk) 05:29, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
 * ...and in philosophy we always used to use "she". =) *shrug* –xeno talk 18:02, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Here is what you are looking for, I guess: Gender-neutral language ("[Use] the singular they" ...but... "the grammatical validity of [the singular they] is frequently disputed") and Use_modern_language ("Avoid the use of they as a gender-neutral singular pronoun"). Yet, none of these is a guideline. — Xavier, 23:12, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
 * You may or may not be interested in a comment on this which I have posted in the discussion on the vandalism talk page. JamesBWatson (talk) 01:35, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

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