User talk:JeffreyReale NBCUniversal

Edits to Suits (TV series)
Hi JeffreyReale NBCUniversal, welcome to Wikipedia. I noticed your recent edits to the Suits (TV series) page, and while I know you're trying to contribute, unfortunately adding external streaming links in this manner is promotion, and is not appropriate for the encyclopedia, so your edits have been reverted. The streaming info is important, and may be appropriate in a "Streaming" section under the "Broadcast" section of the article. However, I would discourage you from adding this section directly, as it appears from your username that you have a conflict of interest with this topic (i.e. you work at the company that broadcasts this show). Instead, you should recommend changes on the talk page of the article. —2macia22 (talk) 22:34, 28 September 2015 (UTC)


 * Hi 2macia22, nice meet you! We would love to start a dialogue with the Wikipedia community about this subject. Wikipedia currently hosts links to websites (such as the USA homepage) and it also has information key to consumers for finding our shows on linear TV (like when each show airs and on which network).  In that way, all of these pages enable users to find TV content on linear TV and they serve a promotional function on some level in theory but only in a functional way that serves your users directly.  However, we think that the absence of any information about availability on streaming platforms is a big gap in Wikipedia’s representation of television shows.  As the landscape evolves and changes, these streaming locations become quite important for anyone wanting to understand the industry or research and enjoy TV content.  In that way, we wouldn’t really see these links as advertisements because they are providing key information on pages that the user presumably has looked up intentionally.  That’s my point of view, but we’re open to a dialogue about it.  I have included my company affiliation in my title in order to be transparent about that connection.  We would be more than happy if the user community took up this flag and made the edits as they see fit, but my team is also very well-informed on this subject and may be beneficial partners in this matter. I should also note that we first reached out to Wikipedia before making any edits, and it was recommended to us that we attempt to make changes to these pages and use this as a platform to engage the user community on the subject.  Obviously these pages belong to the community, so we welcome the discussion as we are seeking make Wikipedia’s representation of TV shows more useful to your user base. JeffreyReale NBCUniversal (talk) 23:31, 28 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Hello! I'm the one who reverted the edit itself. Beyond any promotional or advertising aspects of your edit or the conflict of interest, I'm concerned about the article becoming a programming guide of sorts (one of the things Wikipedia is not). Your edit added five locations for streaming locations, and I know of a sixth one not included in that edit, so I am concerned about the sheer number of streaming locations overwhelming the article and pushing it into promotional tone. However, the relevant manual of style states: This section [ a "Home media" section ] should be used to detail the series release on home media (VHS, DVD, etc.; written as prose) and other general distribution such as being added to a streaming service (Netflix, Amazon Prime, etc.). I'm not well-versed in conflict of interest issues, but because of the MOS, I will make the desired edit in a moment in the proper formatting. However, I cannot assure that it will remain there when reviewed by another editor or if it will be deemed appropriate to include. Per 2macia22 above, I do reiterate being cautious in making such conflict of interest edits in the future and that you instead make a request for an edit on the talk pages of articles with which you have this conflict in the future. ~Cheers, Ten  Ton  Parasol  00:00, 29 September 2015 (UTC)


 * Hi TenTonParasol! Thanks for providing that clarification. I think you bring up some valid concerns.  There are many streaming locations, and while listing them in the body of the article is a good idea in my view, including them all on the right could be excessive.  However, I think there are a few things going on here which warrant examination.  Most TV shows are available on EST services (Electronic Sell Through); that would include iTunes, Google Play, Amazon, Vudu, etc.  These are services where consumers can buy individual episodes or season passes.  However, subscription SVOD services are a different animal (Netflix, Amazon Prime Video, Hulu Plus).  Basically, those services usually pay the studio a fixed amount for rights to the program, and people can stream the content as much as they want as long as they are subscribers to that service.  For instance, Breaking Bad (Sony Pictures TV) was sold to Netflix, and many industry insiders believe that the show’s presence on Netflix helped it become such a significant hit for AMC (http://www.ew.com/article/2013/09/23/breaking-bad-creator-netflix-emmys). Now, when these streaming deals happen, they are often front page news items in entertainment periodicals http://deadline.com/2014/08/the-blacklist-netflix-deal-2-million-825836/).  The subscription streaming ecosystem and it’s interaction with the traditional cable and broadcast businesses is a matter of great discussion and interest in the entertainment community, so I would say that availability on SVOD services is a key detail that actually should be added to the Infobox television template on the right under Original Channel on Wikipedia (as well as the manual of style).  I guess to have that discussion I would need to go to the Infobox television template talk page (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Infobox_television).  Is that what you would recommend?  Any advice on this matter would be most helpful.  Even though I and my colleagues have used Wikipedia as an invaluable resource for years, I am still new to actually being a part of the community.  Thanks!  Kind Regards, JeffreyReale NBCUniversal JeffreyReale NBCUniversal (talk) 16:29, 29 September 2015 (UTC)

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Hello, JeffreyReale NBCUniversal, and welcome to Wikipedia!&#32;Thank you for your contributions.

I noticed that one of the first articles you edited was Suits (TV series), which appears to be dealing with a topic with which you may have a conflict of interest. In other words, you may find it difficult to write about that topic in a neutral and objective way, because you are, work for, or represent, the subject of that article.&#32;Your recent contributions may have already been undone for this very reason.

To reduce the chances of your contributions being undone, you might like to draft your revised article before submission, and then ask me or another editor to proofread it. See our help page on userspace drafts for more details. If the page you created has already been deleted from Wikipedia, but you want to save the content from it to use for that draft, don't hesitate to ask anyone from this list and they will copy it to your user page.

One rule we do have in connection with conflicts of interest is that accounts used by more than one person will unfortunately be blocked from editing. Wikipedia generally does not allow editors to have usernames which imply that the account belongs to a company or corporation. If you have a username like this, you should request a change of username or create a new account. (A name that identifies the user as an individual within a given organization may be OK.)

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