User talk:Jeffreyneave

Hello Jeffreyneave,

You mentioned in your Top 4 tournament post that you have created world rankings (placing Sedgman 1st and Segura 6th in 1958). Could you share with us your detailed rankings for the other years as weel, preferebly with some comments, as I have done between 1877 and 1923?

Pennsylvania 1960, Brisbane Hard Courts 1961 and Belfast 1965
Hello jeffreyneave.

Are you sure that Rocket has won "Brisbane Hard Courts" in 1961 (in 1962 against Ken Fletcher 86 63 ok) ? I've never seen it anywhere. Do you have any details : source, date, runner-up, score ? I just know that Hewitt defeated Laver 64 62 57 63 in the final of Rockdale national hard court on october 22, 1961.

Same questions for Belfast 1965 (4-man tournament) ?

Idem for Pennsylvania 1960 ?

Thank you for the answers. Carlo Colussi 10:11, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

Incivility
Hi there. I'll make this short so as to not waste a lot of your time.

I feel it's time that I step in between you and User:Tennis expert's constant bickering. Please read WP:CIVIL and make sure you understand it fully; I don't want to be seeing comments like this, this, or this. They're unacceptable, and, frankly, other administrators would've blocked you by now. I won't take action, but I'll leave you with a final warning; start acting civilly or you'll be forced to take a three day break. Also, you may not use IP addresses as proxies/sockpuppets to push your point of view; if you intend on debating a point, don't hide behind other addresses, be nice, and be constructive.

If you have any questions, you're welcome to ask at my talk page. Cheers, Master of Puppets  Call me MoP! :)  05:02, 23 April 2008 (UTC)


 * The thing is that your behavior is inexcusable, no matter what; you should not be acting uncivilly in any case. As for offenses that Tennis Expert has committed, I don't know anything about that, so if you'd like to complain collect some diffs which show him acting wrongly then that would be good. Cheers, Master of Puppets  Call me MoP! :)  03:02, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

in accordance with Wikipedia's blocking policy for. Once the block has expired, you are welcome to make constructive contributions. If you believe this block is unjustified, you may contest the block by adding the text below.

I hate to have to do this, but you're not learning. I've blocked you for 72 hours; after the block is over, you're welcome to come back and be civil. If you aren't, the block will be extended. Also, please don't try to evade your block by using your IP addresses; they'll be blocked indefinitely if you do. Thank you, Master of Puppets  Call me MoP! :)  17:20, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

bad behaviour by masters of puppet: acting like a dictator is unacceptable and you desrves to be told off

Who do you think you are. you're the one not learning. you acting as bisased prosecutor for tennis expert. you refused to review evidenve and have made no effort whatsoever. you're suppose to read rodlaver, tennis statistics and jimmy connors for the last 6 months. As far as i'm concerned you deserve to be insulted. you behaviour is unacceptable. as far as l'm concerned wiki rules should not be invoked to protect bad behaviour and that's what your doing. you failed in your duty  and have no right whatsoever to criticise when you don't do your job. ie read the evidence against tennis expert. i will not be shut by silly rules invoked by  you to protect yourself from critcism. you fail to addrees any criticisms of youself and your behaviour; inciting wiki rules is unacceptable. proper behaviour is what counts and if you fail you will get told off, whatevever wiki rules. caling you a dictator is an accutrate description of your behaviour. your suppose to act like a proper judge  and you have failed to do so. so look to your own behaviour before avoiding the issues by citing wiki rukes. don't expect any fancy blue things from me; i'm handicapped and can only type sentenances; i use my keyboard like a type writer and nothing else

jeffreyneave 30 april 2008 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jeffreyneave (talk • contribs) 2008-04-30T14:44:43


 * I'm really tired of the constant accusations with no evidence. If you'd like to document areas where you feel you've been mistreated, you're more than welcome to read this and present a case. However, if you don't want to, then please halt the accusations and insults right now. I don't want to block you again because I really hate using that feature; however, you have to understand that it's really hard to be nice to people who are antagonizing me. Please, don't bite the hand that's guiding you.


 * That being said, if you need any help, feel free to ask. Cheers, Master of Puppets  Call me MoP! :)  03:52, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
 * You may find that WP:WAI and WP:K are helpful in working WP with just the keyboard. You won't find many editors who think they can get things done by ignoring the rules.  Experience teaches otherwise.  But the basic ones are pretty simple: play nice together and say where the evidence is.  Details of format can be sorted out by anybody anytime, they aren't worth arguing over.  You've been here long enough to know all this, but a reminder can't hurt.LeadSongDog (talk) 20:21, 1 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Hello Jeffrey. You know that I don't approve the violence you use to contest Tennis Expert manners but nevertheless in the substance I understand your opposition because I don't like Tennis Expert behaviour too : see mister Fyunck(click) answer and mine in the section "What, people just edit huge chunks without discussion?" in Talk:World number one male tennis player rankings following the edit of "18:03, 30 April 2008" by Tennis Expert in the article. Happily mister Fyunck(click), that I thanked, restored the old version (some changes have been done later). Carlo Colussi (talk) 07:46, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

Your recent edits
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April 2008
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Connors-Borg meetings
Hi Jeffrey,

I've looked at http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?p=2283409 and found your own count as :

'73 1-0 borg

'74 1-0 connors

'75 2-0 connors

'76 4-0 connors

'77 2-1 borg

'78 3-2 borg

'79 7-0 borg

'80 2-0 borg

'81, 2-1 borg

'82 approx 6-2 connors (borg had a 3-1 edge on lendl that year so he was still a top player)

'83 1-0 connors.

Here are my details but with some questions or missing points with 7-1 and 2-1 win-loss records in 1982 and 1983 :

1973 November 9 ?, Stockholm Sweden Indoor Hard S Borg 6-4 3-6 7-6

1974 August 11, Indianapolis IN, U.S.A. Clay F Connors 5-7 6-3 6-4

1975 September 6 ?, US Open NY, U.S.A. Clay S Connors 7-5 7-5 7-5

1975 November 8 ?, Stockholm Sweden Hard S Connors 6-2 7-6

1976 February 1, Philadelphia WCT PA, U.S.A. Indoor Carpet F Connors 7-6(5) 6-4 6-0

1976 March 27 ?, Palm Springs CA, U.S.A. Hard S Connors 6-4 6-1

1976 September 12, US Open NY, U.S.A. Clay F Connors 6-4 3-6 7-6 6-4

1976 between September 30 and October 2 (final October 3) Caracas Round Robin Invitation Venezuela Clay RR Connors 6-4, 5-7 ,6-3

1977 January 23, Pepsi Grand Slam Boca Raton, FL, USA Clay F Borg 6-4 5-7 6-3

1977 July 2, Wimbledon England Grass F Borg 3-6 6-2 6-1 5-7 6-4

1977 (January 8, 1978) Masters NY, U.S.A. Indoor Carpet F Connors 6-4 1-6 6-4

1978 January 22, Pepsi Grand Slam FL, U.S.A. Clay F Borg 7-6 3-6 6-1

1978 April 23, Tokyo Suntory Cup, Japan, Indoor Carpet F Borg 6-1 6-2

1978 July 8, Wimbledon England Grass F Borg 6-2 6-2 6-3

1978 September 10, US Open NY, U.S.A. Hard F Connors 6-4 6-2 6-2

1978 September 24, Buenos Aires Argentina Clay F Connors 5-7 6-3 6-3

1979 February 11, Pepsi Grand Slam Boca Raton, FL, USA Clay F Borg 6-2 6-3

1979 April 29, Las Vegas NV, U.S.A. Hard F Borg 6-3 6-2

1979 July 5 ?, Wimbledon England Grass S Borg 6-2 6-3 6-2

1979 November 4, Tokyo Japan Indoor Carpet F Borg 6-2 6-2

1979 December 2, Frankfürt Cup Invitational Tennis Tournament Round Robin, Germany Indoor Carpet F Borg 6-3 4-6 6-3 6-4

1979 December 9, WCT Challenge Cup, Montréal Canada Indoor Carpet F Borg 6-4 6-2 2-6 6-4

1979 (January 9 ?, 1980) Masters NY, U.S.A. Indoor Carpet RR Borg 3-6 6-3 7-6

1980 between February 19 and 23 (final 24), Salisbury MD USA WCT Invitational Indoor Carpet RR Borg 6-3 6-1

1980 (January 17?, 1981) Masters NY, U.S.A. Indoor Carpet S Borg 6-4 6-7 6-3

1981 February between 4 and 8 ? Toronto CDA Molson Challenge F ? Connors 75 63

1981 July 2 ?, Wimbledon England Grass S Borg 0-6 4-6 6-3 6-0 6-4

1981 September 12 ?, US Open NY, U.S.A. Hard S Borg 6-2 7-5 6-4

1982 month ? day ? San Francisco CA USA challenge match, surface ? Connors 7-5 7-6

1982 month ? day ? Seattle Oregon USA challenge match, surface ? Connors 6-4 4-6 7-5

1982 July 24, Industry Hills Michelob Light Cup Hard F Connors 5-7 6-2 6-2 6-7 6-2

1982 July 31 Richmond VA USA challenge match, surface ? Connors 6-4 3-6 7-5 6-3

1982 September 29 Ottawa Canada challenge match, surface ? Borg 1-6 6-3 6-3 2-6 6-2

1982 October 3, Montréal Molson Light Challenge Cup (Canada) Hard F Connors 6-4 6-3

1982 November 15 Los Angeles challenge match surface ? Connors 63 26 62

1982 November 20 Vancouver challenge match surface ? Connors 62 57 64

eventually 1982 season because held in order to prepare the Masters 1982 just following the event (1983 between 4-9 ? January) : Rosemont Lite Challenge of Champions surface ? Round Robin Borg 64 16 62

1983 April 6 Seoul South Korea challenge match, surface ? Connors 5-7 6-1 4-6 6-4 7-6

1983 April 11, Tokyo Suntory Cup, Japan, Indoor Carpet F Connors 6-3 6-4

'''Could you correct my eventual errors or my question marks ? Thank you very much.'''

P.S. : On tt.tennis-warehouse.com someone has as user name "Carlo Colussi" and he is supposed to be 58, live in Milan and Wiki editor but this person isn't me (I'm 45 and I'm living in the suburb of Paris) (I've tried to contact the administration of this forum : I have still no answer at the moment when I sign this post) Carlo Colussi (talk) 14:35, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

I counted the jan 1983 match at chicago tournament of champions(played indoors) as part of the 1982 season as it was played before the 1983 jan masters, which is regared as part of the 1982 season. you have 2 extra matches : the oregon challenge of 1982 and south korean challenge of 1983. otherwise my list matches yours. You will have noticed that some people wish to erase borg's 1982 performances from the record. As fas as l'm concerned inspecial tournament he played well and had no bad losses; so he is a legit player.
 * carlo

connors beat borg 6-4, 5-7 ,6-3 at caracas october 1976

Tennus expert is acting like a pain in the neck again. Date ranges are preferable and self explanatory. the man is so petty and full of himself its beyond a joke. You should change the date to finish of the event like the french version if you can't do the date range. Laver often played more than 2 events in a week like his wins at bretton woods and canadian open in the week of 10-16 aug 1970

jeffreyneave 30 april 2008


 * Hello Jeffrey,

Thank you for the info. I've changed a little the list above given your new result and the Seoul date given by Andrew.

About the Laver dates I won't change them now because I want to concentrate on other players (in those days I'm looking at the summer British tournaments of 1906 : then I will change a little Wilding's wins). If someone else want to replace the start dates by the ending ones he can do it. At last since my intervention a few days ago, Laver's titles and his yearly wins numbers are listed which was the main goal. Thus now any improvement can be done by everyone who has time and want to do it. Carlo Colussi (talk) 12:11, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

Sockpuppetry
And just who exactly are you, ? Are you the same as and ? --Elonka 18:35, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

I'm certainly not the same as freeripper(never heard of him)or Fyunck( who I am awre of thru his tennis cntributions). there is no obligation to sign in and I usually don't bother (neither does german friend who also makes contributions to the same tennis pages as I do). Its always obvious  who I am in my numerous battles with tennis expert. and he knows it; there's no secrecy about me: i'm just lazy.

jeffreyneave 27 june 2008
 * Alright, as long as you always sign the same name and don't engage in disruptive edits to articles while you're anonymous, that should be fine. I do have to ask you though to try and keep conversations a bit more civil.  As long as you can do that though, please carry on.  :) --Elonka 04:35, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

Rod Laver article
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tennis expert you are responsible for the edit war, putting unsourced opinion which you admitted you had no idea if it was true or not; you never provided any full logical explanation in your edits for you continuiation of the edit war; it was i, not you, who went to the discussion talk page first to provide an accurate description  of the dispute at hand. your the one who refuses to dicuss and contin\ues edit wars with no logical explanation. you are being dishonest and devious ( totally disengenuous) in your comment above.

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