User talk:Jeffryobrien

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Discrepancy on Maximillian Joseph Koeck
So there is some confusion, this source states Koeck died in 1898. Sure we got the right guy? &mdash; MusikAnimal talk 23:55, 13 August 2013 (UTC)

This article is about the ORIGINAL Max Koeck.

There was then a Max Koeck Jr. who died in 12/31/1983 or 84, I am posting him next.

http://www.ebooksread.com/authors-eng/walter-b-walter-barlow-stevens/missouri-the-center-state-1821-1915-volume-4-vet/page-29-missouri-the-center-state-1821-1915-volume-4-vet.shtml

Jeffryobrien (talk) 00:01, 14 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Nevermind, source was referring to his father =P &mdash; MusikAnimal talk 00:02, 14 August 2013 (UTC)

Ah... you mean Carl Koeck? Jeffryobrien (talk) 00:03, 14 August 2013 (UTC)

Hey, I have an old political cartoon of him, but I am too new to post photos. Could you grab it and post it up? It is at the link below:

http://www.semissourian.com/gallery/5907

Jeffryobrien (talk) 00:09, 14 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Sure, I'll look into it. Before you start your next article, take a look at WP:YFA, and consider using the article wizard. Make sure you compile a good list of references and reword the information you gather. See WP:REFBEGIN on how to add references. I'd be happy to help you with that article as well, but try and format it and model it after Maximillian Joseph Koeck. Cheers &mdash; MusikAnimal talk 00:19, 14 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Any idea when Maximillian Joseph Koeck died? I can't find any information on it in any source. We should really cover as biographies on living persons are handled very differently on Wikipedia, although it should be obvious that he is surely dead by now. Thanks &mdash; MusikAnimal talk 00:32, 14 August 2013 (UTC)

Yeah, I know I am sorta blundering into this. Working on finding the death date now...

Jeffryobrien (talk) 00:47, 14 August 2013 (UTC)

Philippina Espenshied
Please review my last post. Your new article, Philippina Espenshied, does not contain any references and lacks sufficient context. As such, in its current fashion it will likely get deleted. I don't have time to fix all of your work. I realize you are new to Wikipedia, so next time please first submit your article for review so that more experienced editors can help you refine it before it goes live. Again take a look at WP:YFA and use the article wizard to create articles, which will prompt you to submit it for review. &mdash; MusikAnimal</b> <sup style="color:green;">talk 00:50, 14 August 2013 (UTC)

Sorry... I am trying to get that now. I didn't see your post until after I had done it.

Jeffryobrien (talk) 00:54, 14 August 2013 (UTC)


 * Maximillian Joseph Koeck was a notable brewer and it was easy to find references on him, but looks like Philippina may not meet our notability guideline. As you can see another reviewer already marked it for deletion. Don't be offended, just remember not everything can be on Wikipedia. WP:YFA goes into detail about what you should consider before creating an article. &mdash; <b style="color:black;">MusikAnimal</b> <sup style="color:green;">talk 00:58, 14 August 2013 (UTC)

She was sculpted by Rukstull. It was called "Evening" and is still in the New York Metropolitan Museum.

Read this link: http://archive.org/stream/womanofcenturyfo00will#page/552/mode/2up

and this: http://books.google.com/books?id=lCjdH3iQ01wC&pg=PA62&lpg=PA62&dq=ruckstuhl+overstolz&source=bl&ots=treZQNMjCX&sig=pliqMoOW_33oBqa38ZoQAAQluLY&hl=en&sa=X&ei=p9IKUtbJH6P92QW4iYDQCw&ved=0CCsQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=ruckstuhl%20overstolz&f=false

Here is a photo of the sculpture: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Ruckstuhl_Evening_Front.jpg

Jeffryobrien (talk) 01:04, 14 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Ok this sounds promising that the article can be saved. I'll try to help but I'm running out of time tonight, but I'll keep an eye on it.


 * And just FYI, you should sign your posts at the end of the sentence rather than on a new line so as keep the flow of the talk page cleaner. So e.g. my message here ~ . Cheers &mdash; <b style="color:black;">MusikAnimal</b> <sup style="color:green;">talk 01:09, 14 August 2013 (UTC)

Thanks, and sorry. Jeffryobrien (talk) 01:10, 14 August 2013 (UTC)
 * No worries! Thought I'd let you in on this Google Books citation tool which is very, very handy. For other refs, use the refToolbar which is also pretty nifty, and try to fill in as many fields as possible. Cheers &mdash; <b style="color:black;">MusikAnimal</b> <sup style="color:green;">talk 01:35, 14 August 2013 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Philippina Espenshied


A tag has been placed on Philippina Espenshied requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about a person or group of people, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is important or significant: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such articles may be deleted at any time. Please read more about what is generally accepted as notable.

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Your submission at Articles for creation
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Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Maximillian Joseph Koeck concern
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Nomination of Maximillian Joseph Koeck for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Maximillian Joseph Koeck is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Articles for deletion/Maximillian Joseph Koeck until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. Joseph2302 (talk) 18:42, 23 February 2016 (UTC)

Nomination of Philippina Espenshied for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Philippina Espenshied is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Articles for deletion/Philippina Espenshied until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. Joseph2302 (talk) 23:01, 1 March 2016 (UTC)