User talk:Jeko

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Request for article restoration
Hello, I'd like to request the restoration of the article for Black Phoenix Alchemy Lab, which was deleted 04/06/07. I'd like the chance to edit the article to rectify the cause of deletion (article didn't show importance or significance). There are several items that were missing from that article that should be added and would fix the issue. Thanks for your consideration. Jeko 19:11, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Hi Jeko,


 * Welcome to Wikipedia. Articles like this often get deleted because they do not assert the importance or significance of the subject. (WP:CSD A7). I have restored this article, but to user:Jeko/Sandbox, a user subpage you can edit to bring this article to quality standards. Once this article meets Wikipedia requirements, it may be moved back into article space. Aside from the lack of notability of the subject, this article appears to have no independent sources which back up claims like "The Lab enjoys what some consider a cult-like following" and "An extensive online community has sprung up around buying, selling, and swapping Imp's Ears and bottles, supplemented by the fact that some limited-edition or otherwise special oils can only be ordered from the Lab in 5-mL bottles." These claims require independent sources backing them up. Without them, the article reads like an advertisement. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not a place for marketing.

Best wishes and happy editing, Firsfron of Ronchester  20:28, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the reply and the temporary restore. Would you mind taking a look at the revised entry and let me know if it is enough to satisfy the criteria?  I think (fingers crossed) that it is.  A lot of things were changed/added.  Thanks again! Jeko 14:47, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Hi Jeko,
 * Thanks for your patience. I have restored this article, as I feel it's clear the notability requirement (assertion of notability with citations backing it up) has been established. It's clear a lot of work went into the restored article, and it is beginning to shape up into a "real" Wikipedia article. However, there are a few things that still worry me. Lines like "Black Phoenix Alchemy Lab is known for its desire to run its business with a conscious." If it's known for this, surely a citation from an independent organization such as a newspaper, magazine, etc (not a blog) can be found for this statement. If not, I recommend rewording or removing this sentence altogether. Avoid "weasel words": "While sometimes seen as catering specifically to the pagan and gothic communities..." Seen by whom? And back it up. Tone down the advertizing speak. Refrain from using blogs and livejournal sites as sources, if possible: they don't usually meet WP:RS. Do these things, and it seems unlikely to me that the article will be deleted again. Best wishes and happy editing, Firsfron of Ronchester  16:06, 23 April 2007 (UTC)