User talk:JenOttawa

A barnstar for you!

 * Hi, Thank you for the kind note and Barn Star. I greatly appreciate all the time you took to help with the project as well! JenOttawa (talk) 03:43, 27 November 2017 (UTC)

Thank you for being one of Wikipedia's top medical contributors!

 * please help translate this message into your local language via meta

Thanks again :-) --  Doc James  along with the rest of the team at Wiki Project Med Foundation 02:57, 26 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the encouragement and leadership ! JenOttawa (talk) 01:52, 29 April 2018 (UTC)

Account creator
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 * Hello, thank you for the message. I will definitely need this in September.JenOttawa (talk) 00:00, 15 May 2018 (UTC)

developing training programs for new editors


I read over the training program you are developing at User:JenOttawa/Introduction to Medical Editing: Cheat Sheet. This looks great!

The major challenge here is that since 2001 Wikipedia has established no popular or broadly praised online training system. At various times various groups have invested hundreds of thousands of US$ in trying to design a process. Countless volunteer hours have gone into this. Some processes are more popular but nothing is an obvious recommendation.

Your guide is the most practical and direct explanation that I have seen to target academic writers with an invitation and instructions to edit Wikipedia. It seems good and it seems fine to share.

I see that this guide includes a link to the dashboard training. I am also here sharing a video and a document. What these three other training materials have in common is that they offer little practical advice and instead express abstract concepts and do some socializing. Personally, when I do Wikipedia outreach, I emphasize how new Wikipedia editors should learn to talk about Wikipedia with other people on and off-wiki, and de-emphasize understanding technical aspects of Wikipedia. My system has a lot of faults, and although I have presented it to hundreds of people, I cannot say that it has any better outcome than other ideas in circulation. My theory is that if people feel good about editing Wikipedia then they will overcome technical barriers. Alternatively, if they only learn the technical process, then they may not come to feel good about editing until and unless they later have some social experiences. If a person's time is scarce then at least sometimes guiding them to a positive perspective quickly can be a more effective start than giving them a skill set without social context.

I am not sure which way is the right way! Almost all training programs attempt their own system. Yours is off to a more developed start than many other programs reach in their finished state. If I were to suggest any changes it would be what I recommend for almost any writing - make it shorter and make it even easier to understand. It is already very good.  Blue Rasberry  (talk)  17:29, 22 May 2018 (UTC)

Thank you for being one of Wikipedia's top medical contributors!
Thanks again :-) --  Doc James  along with the rest of the team at Wiki Project Med Foundation 17:41, 28 January 2019 (UTC)

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 * Hi, thank you for helping with this request. Happy editing to you as well :) JenOttawa (talk) 00:57, 5 March 2019 (UTC)

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User talk:Marlyhanna
Please see my comments to one of your participants. Chris Troutman ( talk ) 00:28, 14 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the note and for catching this . I have emailed the Cochrane Group to try and reach out to this volunteer. I also explained how a protected page works and that requests can be placed on the individual article talk pages. Have a great day! JenOttawa (talk) 14:42, 14 November 2019 (UTC)

Merry XMAS!
  "And the angel said unto them, Fear not: for, behold,  I bring you good tidings of great joy, which shall be to all people.  For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Saviour, which is Christ the Lord." Luke 2:10-11 (King James Version) Ozzie10aaaa (talk) is wishing you a  Merry Christmas. This greeting (and season) promotes WikiLove. Spread the cheer by adding to their talk page with a friendly message.

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Thank you for being one of Wikipedia's top medical contributors!

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Your WikiJMed nomination of Leprosy
Hello, The Leprosy article has been imported to WikiJournal_Preprints/Leprosy. Whenever you're ready to proceed:


 * 1) Fill in the "article info" template at the top (often easiest in VisualEditor)
 * 2) When you're ready to submit it, just fill in the authorship declaration form

Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments. T.Shafee(Evo &#38; Evo)talk 04:55, 2 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your help . We had not intended to submit the Society and culture section as we did review or improve. How do you suggest to proceed? I will start to fill out the authorship template. Your help is greatly appreciated. JenOttawa (talk) 22:43, 2 May 2020 (UTC)
 * No problem at all, just remove that section from the copy over at WikiJournal_Preprints/Leprosy and it'll be omitted from the peer review. T.Shafee(Evo &#38; Evo)talk 04:21, 3 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Just noticed my incorrect section title on this - I've edited it from 'WikiJSci' to 'WikiJMed', but feel free to revert if you prefer to retain the way I originally wrote it! T.Shafee(Evo &#38; Evo)talk 03:45, 7 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Dear Thank you for helping with this. I agree that it was meant for WikiJournal of Medicine.JenOttawa (talk) 14:23, 8 June 2020 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of En.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject Medicine/Cochrane/Cochrane Review List/Cancer/Haematology/Complete list


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 * Dear thank you for noticing this. Please do delete right away. This was an error on my part!!! I appreciate your help and your notice. JenOttawa (talk) 20:30, 14 May 2020 (UTC)

User:Paolocmartin
Hi Jen - bought 's contributions to my attention - It seems they're associated with your project.

I'm a bit concerned about contributions like, , and which whist relevant to your project have been created in inappropriate locations.

It seems the contributor is simply inexperienced with Wikipedia, and is "leaping without looking", so to speak. Is this something that could be handled internally within your project? I'm concerned the editor may end up blocked if they keep creating articles / pages in inappropriate locations, since it's quite a lot of work for other editors to go through and tidy things up.

Please get in touch here, through my talk page, or through Special:EmailUser if there's anything I can do to help.

Thanks in advance,

-- a they/them &#124; argue &#124; contribs 21:01, 10 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Dear, Thank for you flagging me here. I have a feeling that this editor had intended to create a project page and accidentally used English Wikipedia Mainspace. I will reach out immediately and help them create a project page. Thank you again for reaching out! JenOttawa (talk) 22:50, 10 June 2020 (UTC)


 * Absolutely no worries - they seem to be getting it now, glad you're on top of it. Cheers, -- a they/them &#124; argue &#124; contribs 22:51, 10 June 2020 (UTC)
 * You are quick! I will email them directly. Thank you again so much for your patience!JenOttawa (talk) 22:55, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

Leprosy pre-print in WikiJMed
Hi Jen - can you take a look at the pre-print? There is one review in which you may want to start addressing and we continue to see more. Also, can you check your ORICID? It takes me to a person of the same name who is a nurse in Australia! Rwatson1955 (talk) 15:24, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Dear thank you for noticing my ORCID error! That nurse with the same name looks very talented, but I am not her ;) We feel honoured to have the Leprosy article reviewed by such an expert and we look forward to improving our submission and the current Wikipedia article. We are addressing these improvement suggestions and I will post on the talk page as soon as we are ready to improve the article. Thank you for your help here! JenOttawa (talk) 02:12, 17 July 2020 (UTC)

WP:MED Newsletter - August 2020
Ajpolino (talk) 20:51, 1 August 2020 (UTC)

Drugs in Preganancy
Thank you for your edits on the drugs in pregnancy article. I think that the section for medications containing opioids should be integrated in the opioids section under recreational drugs instead. 8.3.20 Jx130 (talk) 16:33, 4 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Good point I agree and noticed that there was some repeat. I left it for now so that both uses of opioids (illicit and prescription) were accounted for in the article. Any additional improvements that you make would be great! Could we mention opioids in pain control section and then link to the recreational drugs section, for example? Thank you for touching base JenOttawa (talk) 16:49, 4 August 2020 (UTC)


 * Sounds good! I mentioned opioids in the pain control section and linked opioids back to the recreational drugs section. 8.3.20 Jx130 (talk) 17:25, 4 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Looks terrific so far! Thanks! If anyone in your class wants to take a go at writing a Lead for this article, info on what should go in the lead is shared in WP:MEDMOS (med manual of style). Thanks again.JenOttawa (talk) 17:27, 4 August 2020 (UTC)

WikiProject Medicine Newsletter – September 2020
Ajpolino (talk) 02:36, 3 September 2020 (UTC)

common cold
Hi Jen, I’m a neutral party when it comes to COVID so I tend to convey information from both sides to educate each party using as much humility and understanding as possible.

In the common cold page, it references face masks as showing some effectiveness at preventing transmission referencing “Eccles p. 209“ but I have been unable to locate this source. So you know how the original research can be examined?

Thank you for your time. And if you aren’t able to reach back, I understand you have much bigger fish to fry!
 * Thanks for reaching out. I replied on your talk page. JenOttawa (talk) 14:50, 24 September 2020 (UTC)

Old Project Page Clean up
Hi Jen! There is an old project page from way back when we started this engagement, Evidence_based_content_for_medical_articles_on_Wikipedia. Should we merge any relevant content and remove the duplicate page? Manum56 (talk) 15:57, 26 September 2020 (UTC)

WikiProject Medicine Newsletter - October 2020
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Pi bot
Hi Jen. Just to let you know that the cochrane bot didn't run as scheduled yesterday because I moved the code over to a new Raspberry Pi (provided by Wikimedia UK), but forgot to check that script. I fixed a few issues today (updating file directories, and code to python3), and it's running today, hopefully next month it will run as usual. I also fixed the code for the French Wikipedia version, so fr:Projet:Médecine/Cochrane/Bot is being updated again, but I don't know if anyone's looking at that? Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 20:20, 2 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Dear thank you for the update. I appreciate you helping and noticing that there was a problem with the bot. I see some updates came in, which is great for us to keep up the momentum. If there is anything that I can do to help please let me know. JenOttawa (talk) 00:04, 3 November 2020 (UTC)

WP:MED Newsletter - November 2020
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 * Dear thank you for helping with this in such a timely manner! I really appreciate your help. JenOttawa (talk) 02:58, 24 November 2020 (UTC)

Recent improvements
Hi I just did a little work on this article using paraphrased evidence from the background section and (weak) conclusions from a 2019 Cochrane Review on surgery versus conservative approach. I just looked at the history and noticed all the work that you did in October! It is great. Please let me know if I have made any mistakes or if you have additional suggestions. JenOttawa (talk) 20:44, 26 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Im answering here because the real edits are done at Wiki Med Project (the Separated shoulder article was imported to there and Im almost finished with it over there, plus Basilar skull fracture, Ankle fracture and a few others) I did a few initial edits here Ozzie--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 21:03, 26 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks for doing all this work to improve the article! I will check it out.JenOttawa (talk) 22:10, 26 November 2020 (UTC)

Student editor at mumps
A student editor recently added a few paragraphs to the article for mumps. The issue is that all of the information was either already included in the article or is US-centered. There are smaller issues as well such as reference formatting and reference duplication. Overall, the contributions lower the quality of the article in my opinion. The student is in this course, and the assignment ends on 11 December so is it okay to revert the article to its prior state after then? Velayinosu (talk) 03:15, 27 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Hi thank you for the message. I agree that it is a fine balance- being hesitant to jump in and revert student work (unless the evidence added is incorrect, not appropriate for Wikipedia, etc).  Can the contribution be tweaked for the time being? Mumps is a pretty high-impact article. I feel that all courses should have their instuctors do a final "quality control" check. I see that this is a WikiEdu supported course. I find that WikiEdu does not usually review the final edits, however, prehaps the course instructor can if we reach out? I cannot look at it this morning, but will keep it on my radar as well. Thanks for reaching out! JenOttawa (talk) 12:15, 27 November 2020 (UTC)

WikiProject Medicine Newsletter - December 2020
Ajpolino (talk) 01:34, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

WikiProject Medicine
Hi. I'm so sorry for the late reply on your message. Yes, I am focussing on Medicine-related articles in Malay Wikipedia and started WikiProject Medicine this year. I'm working on it with another user but we don't really have enough member in the team, so I'm working on them bit by bit with him. May I help you? CyberTroopers (talk) 17:16, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
 * As for collaboration, I'm (also as User:WAqil) also one of Wikimedia Community User Group Malaysia member. Maybe we can start through our Wikimedia organization. Kindly email me at wafiq.wikimedia@gmail.com just in case if I mislook the notification here. Thank you for notifying me! I'm looking forward to have a collaboration with Cochrane Malaysia! CyberTroopers (talk) 18:08, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Thank you for sharing your email address. Do you mind if I share it directly with my Malaysian collaborators? We look forward to speaking with you!JenOttawa (talk) 01:59, 14 December 2020 (UTC)

Osteoporosis
I made a lot of recommendations on the Talk page of the article. Please consider reviewing/implementing, as I am not sure if the other editors who have been participating in the Talk discussions will be comfortable making large changes to the article. David notMD (talk) 11:57, 19 December 2020 (UTC)

WikiProject Medicine Newsletter - January 2021
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WikiProject Medicine Newsletter - February 2021
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Merchandise Giveaway Nomination – Successful


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 * Thanks ! JenOttawa (talk) 01:26, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

Wikipedia:WikiProject Medicine/Cochrane/Cochrane Review List
ow Hi JenOttawa. I was wondering on the updates and percentages in table. Is that manually done by you? The calculations and etc in the table. Looking forward for your reply. Thanks. WAqil (talk) 07:49, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Dear thank you for reaching out. The percentages in the table and 52 lists of reviews to consider are updated by me, yes. We run a code that compares Cochrane Reviews published in the past 10 years with what is on different languages of Wikipedia and generates a csv table and a set of .txt files with the updated review lists. This is run quarterly. For the update list, we have an amazing volunteer who runs the Cochrane Bot for us that generates this list (and archives the "done" list). If you have any specific questions or need more information please let me know. Suggestions are always welcome too! Thanks again, JenOttawa (talk) 11:48, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
 * I ran this data on Malay Wikipedia earlier this week as well to share! I there were about 90 Cochrane Reviews published in the past 10 years that are presently shared on Malay Wikipedia. JenOttawa (talk) 11:51, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
 * JenOttawa@undefined May I know how you fetch the data of Cochrane reviews that's in Malay Wikipedia articles? I'm working on the table in Malay version. Is it pucblicly accessible? Would be glad if it did because I have no idea on how to calculate reviews the already have in articles. WAqil (talk) 13:08, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Hi I did not set up the coding myself so I would have to ask the individual who set it up. I am generating a Malay-Cochrane-Wikipedia summary table in excel and had planned to email it to the group from Cochrane Malaysia this week with an offer to provide the raw files on a quarterly basis. Do you want to touch base for a quick call to coordinate our efforts? I can send you an email!JenOttawa (talk) 13:39, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

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Moving this to my talk
Thanks for the "thank you" note re my "Malaria Talk" page comments, Jen! (You could delete this reply when you have read it so that it doesn't mess up your "Talk" page!) IdleMan (talk) 13:44, 25 July 2023 (UTC) JenOttawa (talk) 13:58, 25 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the note . If you have a chance to collect those references, post them on the Malaria talk page and I can try to help go through them one by one. Have a great week! JenOttawa (talk) 14:00, 25 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Just an "observation": the organism that causes malaria is a parasite (as opposed to a virus). Have a good forthcoming weekend. IdleMan (talk) 01:26, 28 July 2023 (UTC)
 * eek! Thanks for noticing this mistake!JenOttawa (talk) 01:30, 28 July 2023 (UTC)
 * OK. IdleMan (talk) 02:11, 28 July 2023 (UTC)

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