User talk:JennyOz

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Twinkle
Hi, JennyOz. You might be interested in enabling Twinkle so you can easily rollback an instance of vandalism yourself. You can do so in your Preferences under 'Gadgets'. Happy editing– Gilliam (talk) 13:06, 22 July 2015 (UTC)

Bullock
Hi Jenny. I've taken Bullock out again - he's resigning, not retiring (his seat is not up for election this cycle anyway, unless there's a double dissolution). Once the Bullock -> Dodson changeover is effected (as far as I know Bullock hasn't submitted his resignation yet), which should be before the election, there'll just be a little swap down in the Senate tables where the continuing senators are listed. :) Frickeg (talk) 11:41, 28 March 2016 (UTC)
 * I know, trust Bullock to mess things up! On the links - they are being used as our references at the moment. Once formal election guides (like the ABC ones) come out, they can probably be moved down to external links. Frickeg (talk) 08:14, 5 April 2016 (UTC)

I couldn't remember the specifics on this, so I looked it up for Jenny McAllister and it seems to be that the parliamentary vote counts as the "election", so Dodson's term has now begun. Frickeg (talk) 01:32, 29 April 2016 (UTC)

2016 in Australia
Thanks for your kind words! In general, I usually only add items with an article link, whether it is to an article about the event, or to people or organisations involved. But it's not a strict rule, anything with a lot of coverage should be fine, and may prompt creation of an article. With anniversaries of events, I would probably not include them unless the anniversary itself had an article (such as Australian Bicentenary), just because it is fairly subjective about which anniversaries to include and of course the original event should be in the year article when it happened anyway so it's kind of repeating the information. --Canley (talk) 05:01, 28 April 2016 (UTC)

Thanks
Thanks for the 'birthday' greetings Jenny! Just reading the message on your userpage, I hope you're feeling more and more comfortable with your contributions here - you sound like the sort of person that Wikipedia needs more of. Cheers, --jjron (talk) 11:23, 14 May 2016 (UTC)

Thanks
A belated thanks for the barnstar! This is some of my absolute favourite kind of work to do on Wikipedia, but it's still nice to be appreciated! Frickeg (talk) 05:53, 13 June 2016 (UTC)

Old edits
Try using the "undo" button first, but it will most likely fail if the edits are old and there have been subsequent edits to that section. If it doesn't work, just edit it back to the original state. --Canley (talk) 08:48, 20 June 2016 (UTC)

Orange Sky Laundry - editing user space draft
As a general rule of thumb I don't edit other people's user-space drafts without invitation - I'll wait until it gets moved to article space, as I'm sure User:JennyOz/sandbox/Draft1 will. However if you want me to start on some of the basics (eg WP:SURNAME or WP:NEUTRAL, per my comments on User talk:JennyOz/sandbox/Draft1) while it's still in your user-space, let me know. Mitch Ames (talk) 14:02, 23 August 2016 (UTC)


 * Hi, Jenny! Sorry to be out of the loop on this (tied up with some other stuff in real life), but great work! I really think you can move this article into main space (if you need help to do this let me know). Once that happens, you can expect other people will start to modify it but that's OK. They would not do it if they didn't think the article useful and collectively people know about the various policies (I don't think any one human could possibly know them all - I am sure I don't). Kerry (talk) 23:41, 31 August 2016 (UTC)


 * Hi, Mitch and Kerry thanks both for your messages (and sorry for delay in replying). Mitch, I really appreciate your advice and you are very welcome to make any changes. Thanks though for asking. I will also reply to your specific help back over at the draft talk page. Kerry, thanks for your comments. Funny (ha ha) thing is though..., because it was my first article, I did it via the Articles for Creation process. So now it's waiting with the other 700:) Oh well, luckily I'm very patient. And you're right about no-one being able to know every policy and lots kindly jumped in to share their advice when I asked for suggestions. I look forward to anyone improving the article. Thanks again. JennyOz (talk) 23:49, 1 September 2016 (UTC)
 * I didn't realise it was AfC, but I can help with that! Kerry (talk) 00:09, 2 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Kerry, Wow! I'm gobsmacked! Thank you! I didn't realise you could do that. I'll do the changes to the red links today, once I absorb what just happened. Thanks a million. JennyOz (talk) 00:32, 2 September 2016 (UTC)

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 Orange Sky Laundry, which you submitted to Articles for creation, has been created. The article has been assessed as C-Class, which is recorded on the article's talk page. You may like to take a look at the grading scheme to see how you can improve the article. You are more than welcome to continue making quality contributions to Wikipedia. . Thank you for helping improve Wikipedia! Kerry (talk) 00:05, 2 September 2016 (UTC)
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Did you know nominations/Orange Sky Laundry
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DYK for Orange Sky Laundry
Gatoclass (talk) 00:02, 18 September 2016 (UTC)

Thanks
... for the piano-related clipping. Interesting historical stuff.

I too hate the word "over-arching". See a full list of my pet hates here.

Cheers.

PS. Hi, Jenny. --  Jack of Oz   [pleasantries]  11:12, 21 September 2016 (UTC)

Coords
Hi, Jenny! I saw your comment to Scott Davis and just thought I'd give you the short intro to coords.

If you are looking at an article which is using the infobox Australian place (as Cowra and most Australian places do), then you can added the coords either as Degrees Minutes Seconds like this

| latd                    = 33
 * latm                    = 50
 * lats                    = 6
 * longd                   = 148
 * longm                   = 41
 * longs                   = 33

Or if you have decimal degrees

| latd                    =33.835
 * longd                   = 148.6925

There are plenty of websites that will convert between DMS and decimal degrees if you want to do that, but the infobox supports either format.

In the Australian place infobox, it is ASSUMED you are talking about a latitude that is South of the Equator and East of Greenwich (because all Australia is in the SE of the world), so there is no need for negatives. In other parts of Wikipedia and on Commons, you would put -33 or -33.835 to signify south of the equator.

If you want to know what are the coords of an Australian placename, then this is your best place to go : Gazetteer of Australia.

There's more to coords than the above, so let me know if your needs extend beyond the infobox Australian places and I will try to explain. Kerry (talk) 21:00, 9 November 2016 (UTC)


 * Ah thanks - when I'd had a quick look and compared the coords on maps with those on Cowra, it was the minus sign that confused me so you have just cleared that up for me. Certainly hadn't occurred to me that the infobox had an inbuilt assumption. It takes me so long to look up and fully comprehend each new procedure so your help is very welcome. Thank you sincerely for taking the time to message me with the intro. JennyOz (talk) 22:23, 9 November 2016 (UTC)


 * Please feel free to ask me for help whenever you need it; I don't pretend to know everything (Wikipedia is a vast and sprawling beast). Kerry (talk) 00:27, 10 November 2016 (UTC)

A page you started (Rhiannan Iffland) has been reviewed!
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 * I haven't done new page review for a while, so I hope that was what you needed. If you want to delete the redirect from Draft1 Orange Sky Laundry in your sandbox just mark it with db-author and an admin will delete it. --Canley (talk) 08:51, 29 January 2017 (UTC)

DYK for Rhiannan Iffland
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FWT review etc
Hi Jenny, thanks for your great review and support of the FWT list. I was wondering if you'd be interested in reviewing Australian Cricket Hall of Fame which is also at FLC right now? It's looking a little lonely having received not one glance of attention since I nominated it a few weeks back...! The Rambling Man (talk) 07:50, 20 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Crikey, so many heros! Will have a look over. JennyOz (talk) 15:13, 20 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Advanced warning, on the heels of the FWT promotion, I will soon be looking at listing Trans-Tasman Trophy at FLC, so any review/tweaks you can make on that would be much appreciated. The Rambling Man (talk) 09:05, 24 July 2017 (UTC)
 * , Thanks for the warning:) Will have look at T-TT when finished with ACHoF (but can't commit to any time frame). Congrats on FWT promotion! JennyOz (talk) 08:05, 26 July 2017 (UTC)
 * No worries, there's no deadline, things can hang around FLC for three months sometimes, I tend to try to "canvass" reviewers who I know are keen-eyed, interested in the subject matter and put in great reviews, and their time is precious, so I appreciate any help you can give whenever you can. Cheers! The Rambling Man (talk) 08:10, 26 July 2017 (UTC)
 * , Just to let you know that I will add my couple of points to the T-T Trophy tomorrow. Haven't forgotten:) JennyOz (talk) 18:44, 3 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Cool Jenny, thanks! The Rambling Man (talk) 19:14, 3 September 2017 (UTC)

Get Krack!n'
Hi J Bar, thanks for creating an article for the Kates' new show. I'm not sure though that there is meant to be an apostrophe at end of its name? JennyOz (talk) 04:15, 31 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I'll fix that up. They must have used one in an early article. J Bar (talk) 05:24, 31 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks, - I thought that might be the case. Thanks JennyOz (talk) 05:38, 31 August 2017 (UTC)

Avenue Range Station massacre
G'day, I wondered if you would mind taking a look at this article, the latest in my work on the frontier wars in SA? I'd like to get a few opinions before nominating it for GA review. Cheers,
 * Hi, sure thing! Actually, I read the Waterloo one earlier and just finished reading Dernancourt (noticed the coincidence of name Congreve!). Will get back to you soon. Regards, JennyOz (talk) 09:51, 14 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks Jenny! Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 05:33, 15 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Hi, I have added some comments to the article's talk page. Sorry I was not able to attend sooner. Thanks for such a comprehensive coverage of the events and their multiple retellings. Best wishes, JennyOz (talk) 03:20, 22 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks Jenny. Your feedback is really appreciated! Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 05:13, 22 October 2017 (UTC)

Maybe a copy-editor?
Hello, again, JennyOz – I hadn't run across your user name before, so out of curiosity looked at your user page. I also don't like getting in to arguments, so avoid them whenever possible. It looks like you have an attention to detail, so you might like to participate at WikiProject Guild of Copy Editors. You could help cut down on our backlog of articles needing copy-editing. Some of the articles are in pretty good shape, and only need polishing. Others are in bad shape, or written by a non-native speaker of English, and require a lot of work. Normally, it is not contentious editing, and there's no rush; you don't have to finish an article all on one day. If you're curious, you can look at articles that have been copy-edited already and see in the revision history what the copy-editor did. Look in the archives. I'm sure each copy-editor has his or her own style of copy-editing and what he/she considers important enough to change. If you're really interested in beginning, you might like to look at the tools I've placed at the top of my talk page. Feel free to copy (in edit mode) and paste to your page any that seem useful. (Be sure to click "Cancel" to get out of edit mode.) If you're interested in Australian topics, you might look at WikiProject Australia. For fun, you might look at User:Carptrash, and User:EEng and User talk:EEng. – Corinne (talk) 16:29, 23 October 2017 (UTC)

Laureus World Sports Award for Sportswoman of the Year
Hey Jenny, I have the above list at FLC, and I always appreciate your insightful comments, was wondering if you'd have a chance to cast you eyes over it? No worries if not, as you'd expect from me, it's practically perfect........ ! Hope you're well, The Rambling Man (talk) 21:58, 29 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Hi, will happily look at this tomorrow. JennyOz (talk) 12:46, 1 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Many thanks, take your time, any help gratefully appreciated, as always. The Rambling Man (talk) 13:31, 1 November 2017 (UTC)

Image of statuette
Following your advice, we now have a fair use image of the statuette at the (still awful but not quite so awful) Laureus World Sports Awards article. Work there continues....... I'm aiming for WP:FTC before Xmas. The Rambling Man (talk) 15:36, 8 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Ah, thanks! Looks good, it's a very handsome piece of silverware. Let me know when you are nearing end of fixing Awards article. I won't put it on my watchlist just yet (fear of clogging up). As for Featured topics, I only very recently realised there was such a thing when editing this. The Laureus set should fly through. Regards, JennyOz (talk) 04:58, 9 November 2017 (UTC)

Ellyse Perry
Hi Jenny, a brief departure from the lists I so enjoy making, I've asked if he'd like to help get Ellyse Perry up to featured article status, and then I suddenly thought of you, and wondered if you'd like to join it too? The article is in good shape already but could use a copyedit and source review before we nominate it. What do you reckon? The Rambling Man (talk) 09:35, 13 November 2017 (UTC)
 * G'day, funny you should ask. I spent the weekend swapping between Ian's women's fifer list and, when it was sending me cross-eyed, Ellyse's article. (She is such a magic person. Her interview discussing how she accidentally celebrated her double century on field a tad early was simply delightful.) I only did gnomey edits and only got down to the beginning of her football section. Yep I'm in. There is a massive amount of prose from earlier in her cricket days. Let me know the plan. PS As above, alert me when any more of the Laureus set are ready for FLC listing. JennyOz (talk) 10:19, 13 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Great, once I get clear of my sandboxing for the Segrave Trophy, I'll take a closer look at Perry and see what's happening. With regard to the Laureus lists, well I have six more up my sleeve just waiting for the FLC backlog to clear, plus the main article is now re-worked completely at at GAN waiting for a kind editor to pluck it from obscurity and review it.  The lists are: Breakthrough, Sportsman, Sport for Good, Comeback, Team and Spirit of Sport.  I'd be happy to take any comments on their respective talkpages should you feel so generously inclined! The Rambling Man (talk) 10:30, 13 November 2017 (UTC)

A kitten for you!
hi, thanks for the thanks over my edits at WikiProject Australian law cleanup list.

Coolabahapple (talk) 07:09, 14 November 2017 (UTC) 

Laureus World Sports Award for Comeback of the Year
Hi Jenny, the above list is now at FLC, if you have the time and feel the inclination to have a look! Cheers. The Rambling Man (talk) 10:29, 16 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Hey Jenny, thanks for all your ongoing reviews and support. Laureus World Sports Award for Sportsperson of the Year with a Disability has been sitting without attention for a while now, I wondered if you'd "do your thing" on it if you have the time and inclination?  Thanks again, The Rambling Man (talk) 13:20, 27 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Hi, Ha! I had already started looking at it! Am quite keen to help get the whole set finished as they roll through. (Segrave looks interesting too.) Regards, JennyOz (talk) 13:48, 27 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I have a few more Segrave-esque up my sleeve... The Rambling Man (talk) 13:58, 27 November 2017 (UTC)

USMCWR
Thanks for fixing my typo> Pendright (talk) 06:36, 23 January 2018 (UTC)

I’d like to nominate the USMCWR article for an ACR! So, would I be testing your patience if I asked you for a read through beforehand? If I am, no problem, I’ll understand. I hope all is well down under. Regards! Pendright (talk) 05:33, 2 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Hi, Nice to hear from you again. I thought you might be heading to ACR, have been watching your changes. I will be very happy to have another read through. (All's okay downunder though a bit chilly.) Best wishes, JennyOz (talk) 05:57, 2 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Great, thank you! Pendright (talk) 20:00, 2 June 2018 (UTC)
 * As of this hour, I’m unable to find any italics on either the slogan ( Recruiting) or the esprit de corps (Camp Lejeune). What am I missing? Pendright (talk) 06:52, 12 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Hi, well that's weird. When I view this sentence "Although joint training with the Navy proved satisfactory, it did not engender the Marine esprit de corps that was expected.", esprit de corps appears in italics, and in this, "The slogan Free a Marine to Fight proved to be a strong drawing card for the Reserve...", Free a Marine to Fight is italicised. (I wouldn't worry about them.) JennyOz (talk) 07:52, 12 July 2018 (UTC)
 * It is me whose weird! Either I've been out in the sun too long or it's time to pack it in. Anyway, I removed both sets. Humble pie is not as digestable as apple pie. Thanks! Pendright (talk) 12:06, 12 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Free a Marine to Fight is now supported by two links, one showing pages 1 – 20, the other from 21- 41. Please let me know if this is sufficient or more information is needed. Thanks so much for your time and effort, it sure paid off. Pendright (talk) 01:37, 16 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Hi, I noticed you'd added the second one. I think it addresses the issue perfectly! Congratulations on the promotion! You deserve one too! Best wishes, JennyOz (talk) 02:57, 16 July 2018 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!
Thanks !, always happy to help, especially when Australian articles heading to main page. JennyOz (talk) 10:48, 26 January 2018 (UTC)

My sincere thanks
Featured topic candidates/Laureus World Sports Awards/archive1 has just been promoted to featured topic. Thanks for your help in getting it there! The Rambling Man (talk) 21:42, 30 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Hi, Congrats! I enjoyed the process and learnt a lot - not only the interesting sport content but markup, MoS, collaboration and more. JennyOz (talk) 04:42, 1 February 2018 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Vinny Lauwers
Hello! Your submission of Vinny Lauwers at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Yoninah (talk) 14:29, 5 February 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Vinny Lauwers
Alex Shih (talk) 01:07, 10 February 2018 (UTC)

Precious
--Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:08, 10 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Wow, thank you ! What a lovely note. I feel honoured... and I love blue sapphires! JennyOz (talk) 10:19, 10 February 2018 (UTC)
 * You are welcome! It's a Yogo. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:48, 10 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Two years ago, you were recipient no. 1850 of Precious, a prize of QAI! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:24, 10 February 2020 (UTC)

Thank you
It's a wonder how many a featured article can have after I've assumed that it's reached the perfect state :D Thank you for the corrections Jenny; really appreciate it.  Lourdes  07:13, 10 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Hi, Thank you for the work that went into the article, not only an interesting and enjoyable read but an important record of Australian history. JennyOz (talk) 07:48, 10 February 2018 (UTC)

Deputy PM
Hi Jenny,

Just so it is clear, my edit summaries are not about you or your edits (which are clearly improvements). I was and am peeved that I made edits in several sections and then got an edit conflict and, as an IP editor, lost all the changes I'd made and was presented only with your last saved version so could not cut-and-paste my changes in. It's a fault in the software.

Cheers, a lowly IP, 125.168.41.242 (talk) 05:01, 26 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Hi IP, thanks for your note. I didn't get an alert when saving and I was not aware IPs don't get alerts. I actually had another edit conflict today, with another logged in user, which I noticed when checking via 'show changes' and chose to cancel rather than attempt to save. Anyway, I understand you were frustrated and I did not take your summaries personally. Hope your day got better:) Best wishes, JennyOz (talk) 05:46, 26 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Hi Jenny... to be clear, I did get an edit conflict alert, but all it displayed was your latest saved version, so unlike a usual edit conflict, it did not display what I had done and allow me to integrate the changes. Of course, there is no way that you could have known I was working on any changes.  I have no idea if this was a software glitch or a design fault that produces edit conflict notices to IP users that are utterly useless for actually retaining changes from both editors.  I just wanted to make sure that you knew the edit summaries were not directed at you.  :)  125.168.41.242 (talk) 15:21, 26 February 2018 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

 * Thanks ! I enjoyed reviewing and learning more about Armstrong. JennyOz (talk) 12:20, 3 March 2018 (UTC)

WAVES
Thank you so much for your edits of the WAVES article, you have a keen eye. They were also timely, because I’m planning to nominate it for an ACR. Having reviewed the article, do you have any suggestions you’d care to offer. Pendright (talk) 06:09, 11 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Hi, You're very welcome. I'd been promising myself to read some more of your articles after enjoying USMCWR so much. The one thing I remember noticing was the singular WAVE, mostly when referring to a member (WAVES itself not actually being a plural), but I guessed that was a common usage. I'd be very happy to have another look and will let you know if I have any suggestions. Best wishes, JennyOz (talk) 06:48, 11 March 2018 (UTC)
 * The literature seems inconsistent on that point, so I followed what I thought was the most common usage. Thanks for your kind words and for looking at the article. Pendright (talk) 20:30, 11 March 2018 (UTC)
 * With your help, the WAVES article has managed to sucessfully cross the ACR finish line. Thanks again! Pendright (talk) 06:02, 19 April 2018 (UTC)

Commonwealth Games
Thanks for editing my contributions to Australia at the 2018 Commonwealth Games — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aussiesportlibrarian (talk • contribs) 12:10, 15 April 2018 (UTC)

Trove citations
Thanks for spotting the dodgy Trove citations, I have fixed the references to The News. I remembered reading a discussion between some Wikipedians and the NLA about this (newspaper names and links in the automatic citations), I think it was this post and this post on the Trove forum? I remember they did roll out some fixes a few years back, it may have been to do with these discussions. Probably a good idea to set up redirects for the capitalisation issues, but they'll have to fix the link to The News at their end. --Canley (talk) 07:32, 16 April 2018 (UTC)

January to March 2018 Milhist article reviewing
Hi, belated thanks for this! JennyOz (talk) 10:58, 7 July 2018 (UTC)
 * All for your efforts. Regards, KCVelaga (talk &bull;&#32;mail) 11:57, 7 July 2018 (UTC)

Banking RC
YW, Jenny. :) Thanks for all your edits on the main article.  --122.108.141.214 (talk) 07:47, 29 April 2018 (UTC)

April to June 2018 Milhist article reviewing
Thanks and for all you do. JennyOz (talk) 11:01, 7 July 2018 (UTC)
 * No worries, Jenny. Thanks for your efforts. Regards, AustralianRupert (talk) 11:11, 7 July 2018 (UTC)

FA prose reviewing
Hope to see more of you! Tony (talk)  08:35, 17 September 2018 (UTC)

Apollo 11
I have Apollo 11 up for review at WikiProject Military history/Assessment/Apollo 11. We're trying to get the article in shape for running on the front page on the 50th anniversary in July 2009. Could I trouble you to work your magic on the article? Hawkeye7  (discuss)  11:01, 2 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Hi, yeah sure! See you there. JennyOz (talk) 17:31, 2 October 2018 (UTC)

July to September 2018 Milhist article reviewing
Hi, belated thanks for this and for all you do. Regards, JennyOz (talk) 05:45, 21 October 2018 (UTC)

Question?
If you care to offer it, I’d like your opinionh on a grammar situation that has troubled me from time to time. According to Hoyle (American), adding “ing” to the ending of a verb changes both the meaning and the function of the verb. In some cases, it causes the verb to act as a noun or adjective, and in others, it changes the tense of the verb. So,If the word explained is changed to explaining, did a past tense verb become a present tense something else? The more research I do, the more circular it becomes. Anyway, I hope you are well! Pendright (talk) 07:05, 19 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Hello !, Lovely to hear from you. Crikey! The more I think about your question, the more I am thinking it needs a good thinking! Here are some examples where meaning can change with "ing". He is cooking (present tense verb) or he has a cooking room. Cooking has become an adjective because the room isn't cooking. He is running (verb) in the election but he is in the running (noun). Saying is a verb, or a noun as in 'a common saying'. You are wiring the house - but it becomes the wiring (noun). I am building (verb) something - but a building is a noun. He was drumming (verb) or he got a good drumming (noun) from the boss or even he went to his sound-proofed drumming (adjective) room. We are sailing, that is a sailing boat.
 * But with explained/explaining... I suppose one could say "that was a good explaining" but we have the noun explanation. Maybe, "that is a good book if you need some explaining". In that sentence is explaining a noun? We need context - want to give me a sample sentence where 'explaining' could be a problem? I'll look forward to finding the answer with you. Best wishes, JennyOz (talk) 11:31, 19 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Your examples helped me break through my mental logjam. I’ve been more hung up on tense than on context. So, in the future, I’ll be thinking about context, context, and context. As always, thank you for your willingness to help. I’m well and hope you are too. Pendright (talk) 04:09, 21 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Hi, glad to hear that! Yep, I'm well thanks and it's spring downunder so the weather is more pleasant. Til next time, JennyOz (talk) 05:29, 21 October 2018 (UTC)

WAVES article
It seems I’m caught between a rock and a hard place and I’m hoping you can help. Let me explain: the WAVES article is now under FAR, and the reviewer had this to say –
 * Now, this is a great topic, and I'd really like to see it promoted. Going by the lead, I think it needed a more-thorough copyedit before nomination—though the lead is hard to get right. I haven't looked at the rest. Do you have collaborators who could go over it with fresh eyes? (That is, editors who haven't yet worked on it?) Tony (talk) 01:41, 6 November 2018 (UTC)

I’ve exhausted my circle of fresh eyes, so would you consider approaching some editor(s) you know to see if they might be amenable to do the deed? In any event, thanks for any help you care to offer. Pendright (talk) 20:50, 6 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Hi, I've been watching the review and it seems to be in good hands and I'm sure others will chime in. I'll keep in touch with it and you. Best wishes, JennyOz (talk) 11:17, 13 November 2018 (UTC)
 * - Thank you! Pendright (talk) 19:51, 17 November 2018 (UTC)

New Zealand and Australian Division
G'day, Jenny, I trust you are well. I have nominated the New Zealand and Australian Division article for a peer review, which can be found here: Peer review/New Zealand and Australian Division/archive1. You have a very keen eye, so I would be very thankful if you had a moment to take a look. If you don't have the time, I understand. Thanks. AustralianRupert (talk) 10:31, 13 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Hi, yep I'm well thanks (though feeling a little dispirited by some of the nastiness that seems really prevalent at the moment. None of it involves me and I rarely go near the drama boards but crikey!...) Anyway, I saw the NZAD article on the Aust Alerts page and had already made some gnome notes so will post them at the peer review page very soon. Glad to see you back! JennyOz (talk) 11:08, 13 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Cheers, Jenny. I know what you mean, it can be difficult not to let it get you down sometimes. I appreciate you taking a look. Regards, AustralianRupert (talk) 11:17, 13 November 2018 (UTC)

Alf Ramsey
Hi Jenny, thanks for all your comments (as usual) and particularly at Kevin Beattie's FAC. and I were wondering if you'd be able to have a quick/slow/meticulous look at Alf Ramsey who we made a major surge on in mid-2017, got it to GA and then walked away. I think content-wise it's fine for FA, but would certainly benefit from your eagle eyes. If you can't, or simply don't want to, not a problem at all. Cheers, The Rambling Man (talk) 15:00, 15 January 2019 (UTC) P.S. I may be heading down under in late February, can't wait!
 * Hello, Yep, will have a look over Ramsey. It'll take a while, (what a full life he had!) and I have a few other things underway but will get there. Coming down under? Feb is a great time to visit, just like the other 11 months! JennyOz (talk) 10:29, 17 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Perfect, thanks, and take your time, of course. And yes, probably a two-stopper, Melbourne and Sydney, can't wait! The Rambling Man (talk) 10:31, 17 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Hi Jenny, just wondered if you had any idea as to if/when you might be able to take a look at Alf? Cheers, The Rambling Man (talk) 13:38, 2 February 2019 (UTC)

Ramsey
Thank you. I've replied on the last of your points. Apologies for the delay. --Dweller (talk) Become old fashioned! 11:49, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

Solrad 1
Thanks for the edits! What brought you to Solrad 1? Neopeius (talk) 14:42, 4 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Hi, I just noticed I hadn't replied to your message. Sorry for my rudeness! I came across Solrad 1 in the dyk queue and enjoyed reading it. I sometimes give my 2 cents at FAC and am hoping to get back there soon and will look forward seeing your articles there. Regards, JennyOz (talk) 07:39, 29 May 2019 (UTC)


 * Great! Well, SOLRAD 2 is about to pass FA too :) --Neopeius (talk) 14:48, 29 May 2019 (UTC)

A question?
Hello: Could you tell me the two most popular style guides used in British English? And in your writing, do you or do you not place a comma before the word which? And why or why not!

I hopw you are well!

Pendright (talk) 02:43, 29 May 2019 (UTC)


 * Hi, nice to hear from you! Yes I'm quite well thanks, hope you are too. Well, as an Aussie, I use our styles though they are usually close to British. There are many guides listed at style guide but each can have some different "rules" and only confuse anyone trying to find a definitive answer. Even with our own MoS house style guide, you'll find editors debating fine points. I tend to google when I have a style query and read a few sites to gauge best use.


 * I'm not the right person to opine on precise rules but most importantly to me, the style will depend on the subject area and concision. I just go with what "sounds" best and I'm happy if somebody tweaks what I've written. I think we should always write with the reader in mind, not grammar pedantry.


 * As for "which"..., some might say "always" but it depends on clauses and length of the sentence. For example, in "Apples are a fruit which grow on trees." I wouldn't use a comma because it's a short sentence that doesn't need extra punctuation to help with understanding it. For a longer sentence like "Apples, which can be green or red, grow on trees.", the comma breaks it up for the reader. (I read an article recently with a sentence so long and with so much punctuation, including multiple commas, colons and semicolons, I had to read it about three times to understand it. It would have been far better for readers if broken into a few shorter sentences. That punctuation was probably "correct" but our purpose is for readers to learn something or to quickly find what they're looking for, not to show the ability to weave a paragraph into a complex single sentence.)


 * I am also aware that some things I was taught aren't necessarily right. We all had a Miss Snodgrass!


 * Don't be too concerned. If you're working on another fine FAC, the reviewers there will suggest or tweak any punctuation that really matters.
 * Best wishes, JennyOz (talk) 07:26, 29 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Thank you so much for sharing your common sense approach to Wikipedia article writing. British English does have its variety of style guides. American English has a few style guides as well, but the Chicago Manual of Style is probably the most generally accepted choice for general writing.  Even (so-called) generally accepted rules are open to interpretation and they often are.  I guess that’s why they call writing an art.


 * I’ve been working on an article that was promoted to GA in 2015, with the expectation of nominating it for ACR. When I’m done, do you think you might have time to take a look?


 * All the best! Pendright (talk) 23:54, 30 May 2019 (UTC)


 * Yep, I'm familiar with Chicago MoS and its authority in the US. I'd reckon that across all English language MoSs, whether universities, media houses or even commercial organisations, they probably agree 90+% on grammar "rules".


 * Sure, I'll be happy to look at your latest. (And then I'll look forward to following its review. I learn so much from watching how the reviewers fine tune articles. I find ACR probably the most collegially respectful and helpful process on here.) Let me know when you're ready. Best wishes, JennyOz (talk) 01:15, 31 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I'll ping you then. Pendright (talk) 20:07, 31 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Hello I’ve finally finished trying to fine-tune the Cadet Nurse Corps, the article I mentioned to you. It was promoted to GA in 2015, but was in need of some repair.  I hope to nominate it for ACR in due course.  Anyway, thanks in advance for your walk through. No hurry. Best wishes. Pendright (talk) 04:43, 30 June 2019 (UTC)
 * G'day, I'll have a read through this week. If I come across any minor typos, I'll tweak them as I go and if I have any suggestions or questions I'll add them to the article talk page. You okay with that? If not, just tell what you'd prefer. I'm looking forward to learning about this service! Best wishes, JennyOz (talk) 06:01, 30 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Sounds good, and thank you again. Pendright (talk) 06:16, 30 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks for spotting and correcting my errors and omissions. I did, however, reverse lower case fiscal year back to upper case. When used for a specific year it is upper case. Hope all is well in your part of the world. Pendright (talk) 20:03, 8 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Hi, All good, no problem. I have a few minor questions to ask and should finish them tomorrow. I understand re the years. All relatively okay downunder, though I'm not particularly fond of winter! JennyOz (talk) 10:42, 9 July 2019 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!
Thank you very much - I am agog! Best wishes, JennyOz (talk) 09:19, 30 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Groan! That is Jeenynely punny. I should Oztracise you. Gog the Mild (talk) 11:18, 30 August 2019 (UTC)

Georg(e) Forster
Thank you for having a look at A Voyage Round the World before it will hit the Main Page! However, I am not sure whether I should agree with this edit: all of these books cite him as "George Forster" (and so does the original title page). On the other hand, while GF was known as George while in England, most of the literature about him uses the German form "Georg Forster", including the only English-language biography (by Thomas P. Saine) and the Encyclopaedia Britannica. The Royal Society uses George. I think there's a case to be made for harmonising all appearances of the name, but I would prefer to use the names as used in each of the publications (which then means using both Georg and George). One of these days I'll try to write something useful about this and add it to Georg Forster, but I haven't quite decided what to do... Let me know what you think about how to approach this in A Voyage Round the World. Happy editing, —Kusma (t·c) 19:14, 15 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Hi, Thanks for your message (and for the article). I agree and have undone the last of my changes. My confusion stemmed from Gbooks and WorldCat both using the "Georg" spelling in their entry text, though their images of the Title Page and book cover of course show George. (A trap I'll be aware of in future!) I'm not sure harmonising is better than a simple note explaining the two spellings? BTW, the Liebersohn article (currently ref 20) at Common-Place - when I attempted to check its spelling the URL did not resolve but I found it here. I was not sure whether to change the URL. Thanks again for the article. I've never read much about Cook's second voyage and have made a note to read Forster's report when time allows. Regards, JennyOz (talk) 03:01, 16 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Ah, I see. It is quite confusing with people tacitly using a different spelling of the author's name than on the title page (and I do the same in the article...) I put a standard web archive link in for the Liebersohn citation for now, but maybe your link is even better. Thank you for pointing this out! —Kusma (t·c) 06:32, 16 October 2019 (UTC)

Page translation
Hi, i want translation to page from Czech. How can i create a page? Baran Ahmet (talk) 16:29, 2 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Hello, Welcome to Wikipedia! You will find information at this translations page and you can ask for advice at the help desk. JennyOz (talk) 02:46, 3 November 2019 (UTC)

Call me Sherlock (possibly)
Does the Oz suffix indicate you are Australian? If yes, would you mind also checking the Australasian Antarctic Expedition for pollution by nasty foreign varieties of English (though I get the impression that, like the Canadians, the Aussies are pretty laid back about the arguments that consume the British and Americans). If no, then I will leave you in peace to go back to your appreciation of Black Sabbath or Frank L. Baum. Yomangani talk 17:37, 18 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Hi - oh yes, definitely an Aussie. Wear your deerstalker proudly. And yes, we're pretty laid back but can get very "displeased" if our spelling is "corrected" to nasty foreign varieties. I found no transgressions. Thanks again, JennyOz (talk) 18:08, 18 February 2020 (UTC)

In appreciation
Hi Jenny. I do a fair it of both copy editing and article reviewing myself, and fairly frequently nominate articles. However, and apparently this is not unusual, I struggle to adequately check my own work. I was quite serious earlier, and if you were to run any future nominations of mine through your diligent review process I would be most grateful. Regardless, excellent work. Do please keep on doing it. Gog the Mild (talk) 19:53, 2 March 2020 (UTC)
 * , Sir you are too kind. I get two advantages reviewing your (and many others') nominations. I enjoy your style and I learn about subjects I thought I had little interest in! And if any of my comments are a net positive to the project, it's a bonus. Please feel free to ping me if I miss any noms, especially if time or lack of reviewers becomes a problem. Thank you for your kindness. JennyOz (talk) 06:46, 4 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Madam: I am not, I believe, "too kind"; but, in fact, rather the reverse. You are also generous, and I shall certainly tuck away that kind offer against the day when I am stuck for a reviewer.
 * PS. It is possible that you may enjoy this. Gog the Mild (talk) 13:28, 4 March 2020 (UTC)

Madwoman (book)
This article has a bit of a troubled history, and I clearly shouldn't have sent it on without more rigorous editing--I guess I was a bit tired. Thank you so much for all your good work; I really appreciate it. User:Grlucas, I know you already know it takes a village, and JennyOz did some great work. Drmies (talk) 16:34, 12 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks for all your efforts. Well done. —Grlucas (talk) 16:41, 12 March 2020 (UTC)
 * and, Thank you for your kind messages, and for all you do for the project. It's a wonderful village to be part of. JennyOz (talk) 08:38, 13 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Thank you., 947 pageviews--that's 946 1/2 more than our students usually get... Drmies (talk) 15:02, 13 March 2020 (UTC)
 * And thanks for cleaning up Martin Schmitt. I mean, Schott... Drmies (talk) 15:57, 27 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Hee hee - (, when I saw their initialled printer's mark I thought it was an artichoke.) JennyOz (talk) 16:22, 27 August 2021 (UTC)

Australasian Antarctic Expedition
Thank you for your part in bringing Australasian Antarctic Expedition to the Main page today, in memory of Brian. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:16, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

Asking for a favour
Hi Jenny. You were good enough to do a review for Battle of Cape Hermaeum at ACR - here. I think that you missed my ping, and I didn't re-ping as it didn't attract any further interest and I withdrew it after six weeks. It is now at FAC - here - and I wonder if you might be able to have another look at it? Thanks. Gog the Mild (talk) 17:31, 4 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Sure, see you there. JennyOz (talk) 08:07, 5 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks Jenny, appreciated. Gog the Mild (talk) 10:00, 5 July 2020 (UTC)
 * And yet again I arrive at your door with my begging bowl. I have recently done some work on Punic Wars; before I nominate it for GAN and FAC it could really do with a good hard examination from someone who knows what they are doing. Obviously, if time or motivation doesn't permit I entirely understand. Gog the Mild (talk) 20:52, 21 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Hi ! I am just back after rolling technical problems with my devices. It'll take me a few days to get back into the swing of things. While I am a bit hesitant to offer any promises, (in case probs start again), I'd be delighted to look at your article. If I disappear again, please know it's out of my control. Now, tell me what are your preferences. Want me to just jot down comments? Or would you be happy for me to adjust typos (if any) etc, and if so, all in one edit or in stages for you to undo any easily? Happy to work to whatever you wish. JennyOz (talk) 05:15, 25 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Hi Jenny, that sounds pretty rough. You are a star! I foolishly entered the WikiCup, and the final round starts soon - assuming that I get through. My competitive spirit is seriously kicking in! I won't enter again, but right now I am hooked. I completely understand that your technical issues may reoccur, so I shall treat anything you can do as a wonderful bonus. My suggestion would be just write all and any suggestions straight into the article. There are few enough of your ideas that I ever wish to challenge, and if I do we can discuss on the talk page or I can just BRD revert! However you like; for me it is as easy to review 10 edits by you as it is one. Thanks again. Gog the Mild (talk) 14:51, 25 August 2020 (UTC)
 * OK, no problem, I'll probably start it tomorrow. See you then! JennyOz (talk) 16:00, 25 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Hey, I'm up to Cannae so still a little to go. Just wanted to let you know in case you were concerned:) Will do my changes and add questions tomorrow. JennyOz (talk) 13:06, 27 August 2020 (UTC)
 * In your own time Jenny, I am more than grateful to you for doing this; I am certainly not holding you to a schedule. But thanks for the update - sounds as if you're two thirds of the way through the text. Gog the Mild (talk) 13:56, 27 August 2020 (UTC)
 * I have just sneaked a peak. Amazing work. Although it is a bit embarrassing seeing all of my sloppiness laid bare. Thank you. Gog the Mild (talk) 15:23, 28 August 2020 (UTC)
 * , thanks for your kind words. (Sloppiness? Nonsense! It's amazing how little there is to do in such a mammoth article!) I have a few left-over misc suggestions/questions. Shall I put them on the article talk page? JennyOz (talk) 16:21, 28 August 2020 (UTC)
 * , that would be great Jenny. Thanks. Gog the Mild (talk) 16:23, 28 August 2020 (UTC)

Congratulations from the Military History Project
Thanks, JennyOz (talk) 08:09, 5 July 2020 (UTC)

World War
I am not sure that it's a good idea to speak about "First World War" when it's a 1920s topic, and no Second in site yet. We call places by their historic names at a given time, - why not wars? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:30, 11 September 2020 (UTC)
 * G'day, guess I agree! Regards, JennyOz (talk) 11:35, 12 September 2020 (UTC)

Editor of the Week
User:Gog the Mild submitted the following nomination for Editor of the Week:
 * I would like to nominate Editor JennyOz. They are in many ways the epitome of a Wikignome: inserting useful grammar corrections and MoS compliances in a helpful and almost ridiculously modest way. They also do a fair bit of assessing, at all levels. It can be embarrassing to have them point out the basic errors in your FAC, but this is more than compensated by the knowledge that after JennyOz has visited, whatever the article's other flaws, no one is going to pick at the grammar. I have taken to leaving a saucer of milk out by my articles, in the hope of attracting their attention. Numerous other highly experienced editors regularly ask JennyOz to check over their articles. I think that an EotW award would be an appropriate reward for years of putting that final sparkle on Wikipedia's best articles.

You can copy the following text to your user page to display a user box proclaiming your selection as Editor of the Week:

Thanks again for your efforts! &#8213; Buster7  &#9742;   15:51, 19 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Hear, hear! Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 04:28, 20 September 2020 (UTC)
 * I heartily endorse this nomination and award! Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 04:54, 20 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Richly, richly deserved. Thank you. Gog the Mild (talk) 19:43, 20 September 2020 (UTC)
 * and, thank you both sincerely again. and , thank you both for your kind comments. I am  very humbly chuffed! JennyOz (talk) 08:13, 21 September 2020 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!
Thanks, you're very welcome, anytime! It was a very interesting read. JennyOz (talk) 07:43, 29 September 2020 (UTC)


 * Congrats on being editor of the month! Awesome achievement and well deserved. Hawkeye7   (discuss)  10:01, 29 September 2020 (UTC)

Thank you
I just want to bring flowers as thanks for you always fixing the little things I overlook! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:59, 29 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Thank you . Very pretty! JennyOz (talk) 09:17, 29 September 2020 (UTC)

Revert in Cliché verre
Hey, practiced would be correct in American English in the context that it was used in that sentence in Cliché verre. Seeing MOS:RETAIN, I've thus had to undo that edit of yours. —I&#39;llbeyourbeach (talk) 10:10, 29 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Oh, sorry, actually practiced would also be what you'd use in British English for that; I just realised it's the noun practice not the verb practise. Huh. So add MOS:COMMONALITY to that. —I&#39;llbeyourbeach (talk) 10:16, 29 September 2020 (UTC)

Congratulations from the Military History Project
Thank you, JennyOz (talk) 06:01, 7 October 2020 (UTC)

In yet further appreciation

 * , you Sir are too kind! Just ping me if a review needs an extra gnome! Thanks for your thoughtfulness. JennyOz (talk) 08:39, 29 November 2020 (UTC)

The Girls in 3-B
This edit deserves more than just a thank-you click! Did you just happen to know these women's other pen names? —valereee (talk) 11:20, 11 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Hi, thanks for your note. No, I didn't know any of them - I just like chasing down red links sometimes! JennyOz (talk) 11:44, 12 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Well, that is truly helpful behavior. One of the reasons I nom for DYK is all the helpful edits that usually happen during the review process and the appearance, and this is probably in the 98th percentile. :) —valereee (talk) 11:53, 12 December 2020 (UTC)

American logistics in the Northern France campaign
my article on American logistics in the Northern France campaign is languishing at FAC at Featured article candidates/American logistics in the Northern France campaign/archive1 for want of reviewers. The article is technical and complicated like World War II in general, so the subject isn't too popular, but it is important. I think you already looked at it once before it was split. If anyone could pitch in with a review, it would be greatly appreciated. Hawkeye7  (discuss)  19:00, 13 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Sure, I'll try to get a start on it today. JennyOz (talk) 23:56, 14 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I realise that I already owe you a few favours. Hawkeye7   (discuss)  04:45, 15 December 2020 (UTC)

Beethoven 250 years
Thank you so much for contribs to the birthday display! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:52, 16 December 2020 (UTC)

M113 armoured personnel carriers in Australian service FAC
Hi Jenny, Would you be able to review the M113 armoured personnel carriers in Australian service FAC in the next few days? It's getting to the point where it's in danger of being archived. I appreciate that it's a big and somewhat sprawling article, but if it's helpful the material on the technical details has been checked by military history nerds (for better or worse...), and you might want to focus on the more accessible/interesting material on how the things were acquired and their service history, which might well be where any remaining problems are most likely to be. Thank you, Nick-D (talk) 00:47, 26 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Hi, Yep! I have just finished Green and am starting on M113. Shouldn't have left the hardest til last maybe but thanks for the pointers of what specifically needs looking at. That helps. Best wishes, JennyOz (talk) 05:20, 26 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks a lot - I really appreciate it. Nick-D (talk) 05:25, 26 January 2021 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

 * Thank you I very much enjoyed reading about Louisa's careers (and every gardener needs a gnome!) Thanks for all you do. I've noticed! JennyOz (talk) 14:59, 7 May 2021 (UTC)

Haha Victuallers, you too! (See below.) BTW I don't think Kuipers-Rietberg was ever officially in red here, but the article was prompted by a Dutch news report, on the occasion of 5 May, that the role of women in the Dutch resistance had been (predictably) underplayed. Drmies (talk) 00:12, 26 May 2021 (UTC)

Helena Kuipers-Rietberg
Thank you so much for those copyedits. I'm a bit embarrassed, but also glad to be working on a collaborative project. Drmies (talk) 00:10, 26 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you sincerely for your note. I am continually amazed by the bravery of members of the resistance. Thank you for helping to ensure we remember. JennyOz (talk) 16:36, 26 May 2021 (UTC)
 * JennyOz, if you don't mind, would you go over Lynching of Leonard Woods as well? I'm almost embarrassed to ask, because I know you'll find plenty. Thanks! Drmies (talk) 17:37, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Sure, always happy to help where (if) I can. JennyOz (talk) 17:59, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
 * How did I write "factory" for "family"? Thank you so much for those edits. Drmies (talk) 14:54, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
 * , you're welcome, any time. JennyOz (talk) 13:09, 29 May 2021 (UTC)

Bravery of the resistance during WWII
I was browsing your talk page and noticed your comment on bravery. If you didn't know it, then you might be interested in Witold Pilecki, who I assume would be the only person known to qualify for Category:Infiltrators of the Auschwitz concentration camp (which is presumably why it's not a Wikipedia category). I'll admit that I was flabbergasted when I heard about what he did. Boud (talk) 15:47, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you for introducing me to this hero's article. I don't know much about category policy but I would agree with its creation even if he is the only member! Regards, JennyOz (talk) 08:37, 17 June 2021 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

 * Thanks ! Your articles are always very interesting and well written... and the variety continually astounds me too. Keep 'em coming. Best wishes, JennyOz (talk) 07:56, 24 August 2021 (UTC)

Third Day of Christmas
Thank you for your constant copy-edit help, including for Herrscher des Himmels, erhöre das Lallen, BWV 248 III, shown on the Main page, and here. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:55, 27 December 2021 (UTC)
 * You're welcome Gerda. JennyOz (talk) 09:47, 29 December 2021 (UTC)

And a Happy New Year! Thanks for your helpful addition to Elspeth Green. I have followed this up and uploaded her section of that portrait which you might like to view before a malbot comes along to munge it. Andrew🐉(talk) 14:17, 4 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Looks good, hope it survives! JennyOz (talk) 15:15, 4 January 2022 (UTC)

Happy Lunar New Year
And thank for your help copy-editing Grant Robert Sutherland, just in time for the DYK that went up today. I am constantly astonished at how many times I can read over my own work, without spotting those obvious typos. ("University of medicine" - what was I thinking?)

P.S. I wonder if we are long-lost cousins?

--Gronk Oz (talk) 04:08, 1 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Thank you and thanks for the interesting article. Of course we are long-lost cousins, though working out how distant might take a while. Hope you have a great 2022. JennyOz (talk) 06:39, 1 February 2022 (UTC)

Thank you
Osbert Lancaster went through a peer review and the rigours of the featured article candidacy process without anyone spotting the typo you spotted and corrected yesterday. It's one of Wikipedia's strengths that such minor errors are always apt to be noticed and corrected sooner or later. Thank you for noticing and dealing with this one!  Tim riley  talk   22:09, 3 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your note but far more so for your works here. I am very much an admirer. JennyOz (talk) 09:21, 4 February 2022 (UTC)
 * I say! How very kind. Happy editing!  Tim riley  talk   11:49, 4 February 2022 (UTC)


 * in the spirit of admiration --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:01, 10 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the anniversary greeting ! JennyOz (talk) 16:44, 13 February 2022 (UTC)

Charles William Warner
Thanks for the suggestion. Campbell only referred to "Lt. Gov. Hill". I meant to track down who that must have been, but it slipped my mind. Also thanks for the copyedits - I'm so bad at copyediting my own writing. Guettarda (talk) 16:14, 13 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the article, Warner sounds like a decent fellow. I'm not good at copyediting my own writing either! JennyOz (talk) 16:38, 13 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Warner is definitely an interesting person, but I have mixed feelings about his legacy (essentially, the transformation of a multi-lingual society into a monolingual one). And in trying to leave the obvious resentment that some of my sources felt I hope I haven't presented an overly positive picture of him. Anyway, there's a lot more to add from the sources I have (Chapman and Campbell in particular), and one more important source I need to get my hands on. Guettarda (talk) 17:18, 13 February 2022 (UTC)
 * , nope, the article is not "overly positive". I sensed that, even with his anglicising, he advocated non-denominational schooling for social harmony. I'll look forward to reading more of him with any expansion. JennyOz (talk) 17:57, 13 February 2022 (UTC)

Commas
A couple of my boilerplate responses to commaists:

I am aware of the, to my mind strange, convention of inserting a comma after any initial mention of time. It is not one I use. So proponents of it would write, and, I assume, say "Today, I ate breakfast"; I would write and say "Today I ate breakfast". Either is acceptable. (Much as I itch to remove them when copy editing for GoCE.)

You are, I gather, a "commaist"; I am, you will have gathered, not. During a FAC discussion of one of my nominations earlier this year an experienced reviewer who is also a commaist gently mocked themself by quoting the grammar writer Lynn Truss.

Gog the Mild (talk) 21:02, 22 February 2022 (UTC)


 * Goodonya . I agree. (Your breakfast example is so similar to my slept one.) Thanks for the Truss quote. I'd seen it mentioned last year or so and had forgotten to save the link. I do though appreciate that if someone was taught that commas must be used to that degree, text without them must so simply look/be wrong. It's that urge not to scratch all itches you learn here. Your non-commaist comrade, JennyOz (talk) 09:41, 23 February 2022 (UTC)

A.C. Monza FA candidate
Hey, how's it going? I see you've reviewed football-related articles for FA in recent years. A.C. Monza has been a candidate for over three weeks, and there are almost no comments. I would really appreciate it if you took some time to leave a comment (it doesn't necessarily have to be a full review) :) Nehme1499 21:10, 16 July 2022 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!
Thanks, have a great vacation! JennyOz (talk) 17:46, 18 August 2022 (UTC)

Thank you
... for consistently finding the little bugs in articles on the Main page! - images of a rich summer, especially in music -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:54, 31 August 2022 (UTC)
 * First day of spring and someone has delivered flowers? How special! Thank you . JennyOz (talk) 02:08, 1 September 2022 (UTC)

Board of Trustees election
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American services and supply in the Siegfried Line campaign
I've now put American services and supply in the Siegfried Line campaign up for review at Featured article candidates/American services and supply in the Siegfried Line campaign/archive2. If you have the time to take a look at it again, that would be greatly appreciated. Hawkeye7  (discuss)  18:13, 6 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Yep, sure. See you there. JennyOz (talk) 12:14, 7 September 2022 (UTC)

Hanford Engineer Works
As part of fixing up the article on the Hanford Site, I spun off a brand new article on the wartime Hanford Engineer Works. If yopu could take a look at it for me, that would be appreciated. It is very new, so probably has a lot of typos. Hawkeye7  (discuss)  00:29, 4 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Hi Hawkeye, yep, happy to look at. JennyOz (talk) 12:18, 5 November 2022 (UTC)

For consistently cheering up my day
Aw, shucks, thank you very much for this. You are a delight for so many reasons and it's always a pleasure to cross paths. JennyOz (talk) 09:44, 19 November 2022 (UTC)
 * We're a mutual sunny day appreciation group. Gog the Mild (talk) 14:48, 19 November 2022 (UTC)

Anna Fisher
Hi JennyOz. I have two articles up for review at FAC: Featured article candidates/American transportation in the Siegfried Line campaign/archive2 and Featured article candidates/Anna Lee Fisher/archive1. If you could drop by either one with some comments, that would be much appreciated. The latter is the latest in my series on the first women NASA astronauts. It was a bit more difficult to write than the others because there was no biography. (Shannon Lucid is still to come.) The Ray of Sunshine award was well-deserved by the way. Have a sunny day. Hawkeye7  (discuss)  23:12, 27 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Hi, I have a bit lined up but will be happy to have a look, hopefully over the weekend. JennyOz (talk) 13:21, 30 November 2022 (UTC)

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G'day
G'day Jenny, hope you are having a great break and had a good Xmas. As you know, I've done a bit of work on SA pollie bios (Bill Denny and Arthur Blackburn), and recently for Ernest Roberts (Australian politician) through GAN. I wanted to share that I am on a bit of a mission to improve bio articles on SA pollies who served. I currently have Jack Critchley at GAN. Even though I managed to get Denny and Blackburn to FA, I'm not sure how much interest there will be in some of these other guys from WP Military history members as in some cases their military service is incidental rather than the basis of their notability. I'd appreciate it if you would consider taking a look at any that pique your interest when they appear for review. Cheers, Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 19:22, 26 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Hi, yep, happy to. I've added Roberts and Critchley to my watchlist so should notice when FAC note added to their talk pages. Best wishes for a great 2023. JennyOz (talk) 12:30, 27 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks Jenny, you too! Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 02:46, 28 December 2022 (UTC)

A lei for you!

 * Thank you, that's very kind of you! It's a beautiful lei but all kudos is yours for the article. Aloha. JennyOz (talk) 13:38, 10 January 2023 (UTC)

General Joe Potter
After you suggested I link to William Everett Potter in American transportation in the Siegfried Line campaign, I saw that the article was in poor shape, so I revised it over the Christmas break. It will appear on the front page in a few days time. Thanks for your help. Hawkeye7  (discuss)  23:41, 13 January 2023 (UTC)
 * , Ha! When I first saw Colonel Potter I thought of this fellow. I noticed your work on the article and will have a look before MP appearance. JennyOz (talk) 03:49, 14 January 2023 (UTC)

2023
Thank you for consistent quality checks and improvements! -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:58, 14 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks Gerda, HNY! JennyOz (talk) 08:57, 16 January 2023 (UTC)

Um ...
What error(s)? 4bofus (talk) 18:32, 21 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Well, um... 4bofus, in your (IP) edit to the caption


 * 1) You removed the name of the television series but left behind the closing italics markup
 * 2) You added a spelling error (center instead of centre)
 * 3) You added a full stop (period) to a sentence fragment, and
 * 4) I also considered your "Image from a storyboard frame" as tautological (a frame in this context is an image)
 * So I decided the caption as approved when the article went through FAC was better and replaced it with a clear edit summary. Thank you for your question. JennyOz (talk) 08:17, 22 January 2023 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!
Thank you - and for all the great work you do at DYK! JennyOz (talk) 11:25, 10 February 2023 (UTC)

Precious anniversary
--Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:32, 10 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the Yogo . You're a gem. JennyOz (talk) 11:27, 10 February 2023 (UTC)

A Dobos torte for you!
Hi JennyOz. Thank you very much for contributing multiple improvements to the article I created, Chauncey Yellow Robe. I admire how your rephrasing added clarity to sentences throughout the article. I also deeply appreciate fixing my mistyped transcription of his given name, which is arguably the most important word on the page. Thanks again and I hope you enjoy the dessert. The Fonz  (talk)  19:59, 17 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Ayyyy, thanks, delicious! I've just made a few more edits, including one fixing my own error. JennyOz (talk) 07:40, 25 March 2023 (UTC)

Copy editing?
Hi Jenny, and many thanks for your work on knocking sense into my last couple of FACs. I am after a favour. I am just wrapping up work on Battle of Zama, one of the big/famous battles of the Punic Wars. It has a lot of sources and has needed a lot of work. Frankly, I have now read it so many times that I can't focus on it. It will be my FAC after next, so being nominated, hopefully, in the second half of April.

What it could do with is a rigorous copy edit to weed out all of the nonsense that I am too jaded to recognise. So you sprang to mind. If you fancy it, my draft is here. If you don't, no worries; I know I am pushing my luck and I very much appreciate what you do do to make "my" articles presentable. Gog the Mild (talk) 13:12, 24 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Sure, see you there. JennyOz (talk) 07:47, 25 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks Jenny. It is probably obvious, but feel free to simply correct all of my usual typos, grammar errors and confusions straight into the article. I have just nominated battle of the Trebia, so Zama will be next up. Gog the Mild (talk) 13:39, 25 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Yep, definitely ce not review mode. JennyOz (talk) 04:28, 26 March 2023 (UTC)

POTD
Kia ora Jenny, one of the things that I do (when I have some spare time) is to look a few days to weeks ahead of upcoming main page content. And I've found a brand-new editor with 68 edits under their belt as of right now. Thirty of those edits have been the creation of POTD templates. Oh dear. There's a lot of tidy up necessary, like. I thought I'd leave you a note just in case you get to it.  Schwede 66  09:49, 8 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Kia ora and g'day, hmm, that does seem unusual for a brand new user to jump in and make main page content decisions. (I've never bothered to view who created the template. I assumed there was a team effort of nominations and their approval, à la TFA coordinated scheduling). Thanks for your note. I'll help keep an eye out for redirects etc. when I check for "next day" typos. JennyOz (talk) 06:25, 9 May 2023 (UTC)

History of military logistics
I have a new article on the History of military logistics which I have up for review at WikiProject Military history/Assessment/History of military logistics. It is a sprawling article covering 2,000 years of global history, and no doubt has my usual large number of typos. It would be much appreciates if you could you have a look at it for me. Hawkeye7  (discuss)  23:10, 7 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Hi, I'll be happy to have a read through for any typos and will appreciate learning about the evolution of logistics. JennyOz (talk) 07:56, 8 June 2023 (UTC)

Des Corcoran
G’day Jenny, I hope you’re well and staying indoors in this rubbish weather! I’ve just had a crack at getting the Des Corcoran article up to GA standard (lots to do to get it anywhere near FA, admittedly), and I wondered if you might take a look and see if there are any suggestions you might be able to make regarding areas for improvement? I will look up Hansard and see what I can say about his first speech, and look more closely at his changes of seat, ministerial work, policy focii, etc, but anything that comes to mind, please let me know? Cheers, Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 08:37, 30 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Hi, sure, I'll have a look over in next day or so. You're right about the weather. I really don't like winter. At least we're past the shortest day and a third through. Have a great weekend, JennyOz (talk) 12:10, 30 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks Jenny! Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 13:12, 30 June 2023 (UTC)

A review?
Hi Jenny, I hope that things are good with you. I was wondering if you fancied running your forensic-like reviewing skills over Iron Gwazi at FAC? It is from a first-time nominator and already has three prose supports. However, I would feel much more relaxed about it if a reviewer whom I knew to be both informed and rigorous had gone through it. Obviously if time or motivation does not permit, that is fine. Thanks. Gog the Mild (talk) 16:27, 12 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Okay, I bought a ticket to ride! JennyOz (talk) 08:33, 13 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks Jenny, you won't regret it - I know how to keep a girl happy. Er, it is by repeatedly asking her to review obscure Wikipedia articles, yes? Gog the Mild (talk) 10:25, 13 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Well, yes, um, I'm happy I've finished it. JennyOz (talk) 20:23, 16 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks very much Jenny. Your touch is as excellent as always. Apologies if it was a bit of a drag. Gog the Mild (talk) 20:32, 16 July 2023 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

 * Thank you for helping push the FAC to its final point. Your contributions picked up on what I had not seen. Taking fresh eyes on the subject from someone outside of the amusement industry was of utmost help and necessary. Again, thank you. Adog  ( Talk ・ Cont ) 02:42, 19 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Thank you ! You're very welcome. I enjoyed reading the article and you were a pleasure to work with at the nom. Congratulations on your first FA. I am sure there'll be more! JennyOz (talk) 06:44, 19 July 2023 (UTC)

Howard Florey
I wonder if you could take a look at Howard Florey, which I have up for FAC at Featured article candidates/Howard Florey/archive1? Hawkeye7  (discuss)  23:23, 5 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Hi, I'm a step ahead, I started on Florey last night! JennyOz (talk) 08:02, 6 August 2023 (UTC)

If you have time and inclination...
Hi JennyOz, I hope you’re keeping well. I have a PR open here on Edward Oxford, the first failed assassin of Queen Victoria. If you have the time, I’d be delighted to hear your thoughts. Cheers - SchroCat (talk) 20:26, 7 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Hello, from Victoria to Victoria! Looks interesting. I have a couple of others to finalise but I'll get there soon. JennyOz (talk) 10:21, 8 August 2023 (UTC)
 * That’s fantastic - thank you! No rush at all. Cheers - SchroCat (talk) 10:28, 8 August 2023 (UTC)

American logistics in the Western Allied invasion of Germany
If you have the time, would you be able to have a look at Featured article candidates/American logistics in the Western Allied invasion of Germany/archive1? I am in dire need of reviewers. Hawkeye7  (discuss)  00:48, 1 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Okay, will get there soon. JennyOz (talk) 03:24, 2 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Thank you. If you ever come to Canberra it's my treat. Hawkeye7   (discuss)  07:54, 2 September 2023 (UTC)

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I am sorry
I am sorry, Jenny, that I caused you pain, and would like to try to find out what I can do better next time. I may have had language problems. Let's begin with one example, and I call Jim as well, as the author. I often ask in reviews (DYK and also FA): "How do you feel about an infobox?" (... and the stress should be on feel even if not marked.) I have learned in 10 hard years that there strong emotions involved in the topic, which I don't understand but have to accept that they exist. I think that by now an infobox is the normal thing to have and that acceptance grew over the last year (Mozart, Laurence Olivier, per the community). I feel that my standard question is simple and neutral, and I take "no" for an answer, and take no answer for "no". In the nomination, I asked no one specifically, but expected a reply rather from the author. I don't ask the question when I think I know an author's preference (but you never know, see today's Walt Disney. For Jim, I know that there was a reluctance at some time, but such things can change, and I am a curious person. -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:30, 16 October 2023 (UTC)

Today, it's a place that inspired me, musings if you have time. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:03, 20 October 2023 (UTC)

DYK for John Lennon's psychedelic Rolls-Royce
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Only if you have the time and inclination...
Would you be able to have a look at Len Deighton as part of the FAC review I have opened? As always, I would welcome your comments on the article if you have the time - although no pressure, if you're tied up on other things. Cheers - SchroCat (talk) 16:04, 27 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Hi, Yep, sure, will do. JennyOz (talk) 04:10, 30 October 2023 (UTC)
 * I have History of military logistics up for review at Featured article candidates/History of military logistics/archive1. If you could take a loom that would be greatly appreciated. Given the topic, I'm expecting that I will have difficulty finding reviewers, but the article is a high level one, and it on a subject that is dear to my heart. Hawkeye7   (discuss)  21:00, 1 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Hi, well, as mentioned, your other logistics ones became an interesting topic to me. I've been watching the progress of this one at the other place so yeah, I'll chime in. JennyOz (talk) 11:40, 2 November 2023 (UTC)

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Merry Christmas!
Thanks and I wish the very same for you! JennyOz (talk) 02:56, 21 December 2023 (UTC)

WikiLove Salamander on the way!
Not experienced with code so sorry :) Cometkeiko (talk) 18:06, 17 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Thank you . I will be sure to take care of my new pet. JennyOz (talk) 12:02, 19 January 2024 (UTC)

Precious anniversary
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Hanford Engineer Works
I have Hanford Engineer Works up for review at Featured article candidates/Hanford Engineer Works/archive1. It is something of a straggler of the Manhattan Project articles; all the others were done years ago but I created this one in 2022. If you have the time to take a look, it would be greatly appreciated. Hawkeye7  (discuss)  22:42, 2 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Hi Hawkeye, I'll be happy to. See you there. JennyOz (talk) 04:19, 4 March 2024 (UTC)

Edits
Thank you for your helpful edits. Just want you to know that I noticed that you are always making positive edits! Recently I saw your edits on Elbert E. Martin. Keep up the great work! Bruxton (talk) 02:57, 14 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Thanks ! I always enjoy reading your articles and the series you often create around them. I also appreciate how much you do at DYK reviewing, promoting and prepping, helping so many editors to get their contributions onto the main page. JennyOz (talk) 05:47, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Came here to say the same thing. I'm sorry we got off on the wrong foot several months ago.  Whenever I see your name in a page history, I know an article has been improved.  You are a huge asset and your work is valuable. Viriditas (talk) 03:16, 28 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your very kind note, and for all you do.
 * Oh, I didn't think we got off on the wrong foot at all. I just needed the time to finish what I was writing - no problem with your intervening good faith edit whatsoever. I'm sorry you've had that impression. I truly didn't realise!
 * Thank you for the Hoppers. I especially related to the woman in the teal cinema seat. Looking forward to more! Sincerely, JennyOz (talk) 09:49, 28 March 2024 (UTC)

self-trout
Turns out Capri-Suns aren't canned – that factoid only had one source, which turned out to be a complete fabrication. trout for me! theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 06:38, 25 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Ahh, thanks for the note . Much appreciated. Glad it's sorted. JennyOz (talk) 02:07, 26 March 2024 (UTC)

Errors
Thanks for your work there, always great suggestions, always uncontroversial, and never wrong. Stephen 09:35, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Thanks for this note . And thank you for being such a diligent, no-nonsense Main Page admin, helping to ensure its integrity! JennyOz (talk) 11:33, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
 * I haven’t seen you at Errors for an unusual length of time. I hope everything is ok. Your great contributions are being missed.  Schwede 66  18:04, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Hi, all okay - was just temporarily busy plus I am having intermittent connection problems. Thanks sincerely for your concern, and for all you do. Main Page admins are amongst our very best! JennyOz (talk) 08:01, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the thanks, that is much appreciated. I’m glad all is good at your end.  Schwede 66  08:20, 28 May 2024 (UTC)

"Vandalism"
Man I need to know if you found my 'vandalism' on dan andrews or lee rhiannon first. Need to improve my spreading of the truth :) DeadlyRampage26 (talk) 11:04, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Hello DeadlyRampage26. Thanks for your "need to know" question though I'm not sure it is genuine. I don't remember which I noticed first; both of those articles are on my watchlist. Either way, we don't add unverified nonsense to articles, especially on BLPs. As is the duty, I removed your edits. It might also help if you read this: "Deliberately adding falsities to articles, particularly to biographies of living people, with hoax information is considered vandalism." I hope you do not again add such spurious, and in my opinion rather puerile, labels such as you did here and here with a misleading edit summary. You appear to be a very new editor so I hope these links help and I wish you good luck with your editing. JennyOz (talk) 10:06, 28 April 2024 (UTC)

Thanks again, and a request
Thanks again for your edits on a couple of articles I started, Elizabeth Ward and Camberley Kate. Watching your work is useful MOS training :)

I'm planning to try to improve these to good article status if I can. As you've recently looked at these articles, would you mind if I ask if you have any informal feedback on the articles for this purpose that you can share please, over and above the edits you've made? Of course, only if you have time and the mood strikes.

Appreciate you! Jonathan Deamer (talk) 18:03, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Hi, thanks for your note and sorry for delay in replying. I enjoyed reading both of those bios. I don't have any experience with the GA process but will be happy to have a look at the articles again and add any comments to their talk pages. Appreciate you too! JennyOz (talk) 15:21, 2 May 2024 (UTC)