User talk:Jeppiz/Archives/2021/April

Jesus Page
Why you reverted my contribution at Jesus? If you had given the reason, I would have left the subject anyway. I am not destructive, you are using brute force. Tell me why? Why should article written like that? Or even should it? İsmail Kendir (talk) 19:31, 4 April 2021 (UTC)


 * I am not interested in any discussion with you any more; numerous users have tried to explain how Wikipedia works, you just refuse to listen and go on with your disruptive edit warring across articles. Jeppiz (talk) 19:33, 4 April 2021 (UTC)

Human Development Index Revert
Hello, I saw you reverted my edit on the “List of countries by Human Development Index” article. According to Merriam-Webster dictionary, a region is “an administrative area, division, or district”. Which means, countries are a type of region, therefor there’s nothing incorrect with using the term “region” instead of “country”. Moreover, the map is showing some controversial areas such as HongKong and Gaza with different colours, so in this case the best term to use would be “regions”. Please notify me when you agree to let me change the edit back to my preferred version. I’ll take it as an yes if you don’t reply me for over 2 days. If you have any further questions ask me here, please do not start an edit war. Thanks 一Tomukatsusu (talk) 19:14, 17 April 2021 (UTC)


 * Hello Tomukatsusu. I'm afraid your approach is 100% wrong. First, please read WP:BRD. It's rather pointless to tell me not to start an edit war when your edit is the one that needs consensus. Second, to gain that consensus you need to engage all interested users, so the place for that discussion is the article talk page, not my personal talk page.Jeppiz (talk) 19:21, 17 April 2021 (UTC)


 * Hi, thank you for replying me so quickly, here’s some of my reactions to your reply. First, the discuss cycle is an optional process by Wikipedia policy, not mandated. Second, I’m not very sure how which one of us needs consensus relates to me telling you to not start an edit war. I’m simply notifying you to not start a war, nothing special. Third, Consensus is an agreement or common opinion, so saying “you are the one who need consensus” is basically just saying “I don’t care what you think you have to follow my opinion”. Not only does it not match the wikipedia’s goal of being objective, it’s also quite rude for me. Lastly, all user of wikipedia are allowed to come to your page and chat, hence both the article and your talk page can be used to engage all interested users. Even WP:BRD claimed “You can use the article's talk page or the editor's user talk page, but one or the other is the proper forum for the discussion component of the BRD cycle.” Overall, nothing I’m doing violates wikipedia guidelines and you really need to read WP:BRD carefully before putting it in your comment.


 * So, without trying to humiliate me using something entirely unrelated to the subject, please tell me if I can change the edit or not, Thank you 一Tomukatsusu (talk) 20:18, 17 April 2021 (UTC)


 * No, you cannot make that change. The article is called List of countries, it consistently talks of countries in the text. Changing the map to conflict with the rest of the article is of course not appropriate. Jeppiz (talk) 10:11, 18 April 2021 (UTC)


 * Ok, so how about “countries or territories” then? “Countries or territories” isn’t as conflicting as “region” and still contains the neutrality. Most importantly it has been used multiple times throughout the article 一Tomukatsusu (talk) 14:33, 18 April 2021 (UTC)


 * Sure, no problem for me if you change it to "countries or territories". Jeppiz (talk) 15:10, 18 April 2021 (UTC)


 * Thanks 一Tomukatsusu (talk) 17:32, 18 April 2021 (UTC)

Reverted edit on page Armenian Genocide
You said you reverted my edit because the statement should be adjusted accordingly to the source. If I revise my edit with a source can I add it back? I'm asking because I have already reverted once on that page. Would it be disruptive?--Visnelma (talk) 11:49, 23 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Yes, it would be contrary to 1RR. 1RR forbids reverting around the same topic even if the new edit is not identical. Gain talk page consensus instead. Jeppiz (talk) 12:22, 23 April 2021 (UTC)