User talk:Jeromef85

Speedy deletion nomination of Vision 21 Gloucestershire


A tag has been placed on Vision 21 Gloucestershire, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page seems to be unambiguous advertising that only promotes a company, product, group, service or person and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become an acceptable page. Please read the general criteria for speedy deletion, particularly item G11, as well as the guidelines on spam.

If you can indicate why the subject of this page is not blatant advertising,. Clicking that button will take you to the talk page where you will find a pre-formatted place for you to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. You can also visit |the page's talk page directly to give your reasons, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the page meets the criterion, it may be deleted without delay. You are welcome to edit the page to fix this problem, but please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself. As well as removing promotional phrasing, it helps to add factual encyclopaedic information to the page, and add citations from independent reliable sources to ensure that the page will be verifiable. Feel free to leave a note on my talk page if you have any questions about this. Mean as custard (talk) 11:59, 31 October 2014 (UTC)

Deletion
I wondered where you'd got to. OK. Wikipedia articles do not say "we are a company making sprodgets". They say "BloggsCo is a company making sprodgets". "We" means "this is a piece of promo by BloggsCo" and therefore not an encyclopaedia ABOUT BloggsCo. You said, "The page is for a charity that is not for profit and I work indirectly with them as an IT volunteer." Being non-profit is totally irrelevant here. We apply the same standards to multi-nationals and village charities. Please accept that Wikipedia is not a notice board or a directory and not everything gets in. Also accept that we do know what we're talking about when we tell you about how to write an article for Wikipedia. Strictly, I could block you for evading the block on the other account, but I won't as I was waiting for you to pick a better name. Now you have done that, it's only the promo side to worry about - and that's more a matter of not understanding than you having evil intents. Other charities may have articles. They may be better known, or better referenced - or simply be waiting to be discovered by us and removed - see WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS. Your references were OK ish. Personally, I'd accept the Citizen as it covers quite a large area (a lot bigger than, say, The Forester...), but I don't know the Echo. Try a neutrally written draft in your user space User:Jeromef85/draft (click and save) and contact me when you think it's ready. Look at other articles (Randon page button is near top left of tis page) to see how to structure it and WP:RS about references. Get the biggest names in - show importance without being promo. Think how a writer on The Times (not the Bootle Times - THE Times) would write about Vision 21. Then, when you think it's OK (and if it hasn't been tagged for spam the promo side should be OK), copy and paste this as it stands onto this page and put a message explaining that you want help and an opinion. (It won't work until you copy and paste it 'cos I've deactivated it in this message - it's a method of contacting people.) She is a rescuer of lost causes. Peridon (talk) 13:45, 31 October 2014 (UTC)