User talk:Jersyko/archive10

Presidential interviews
Good luck with your interviews. I'll be following your progress and I look forward to seeing the final results. · jersyko   talk  18:19, 21 July 2007 (UTC)


 * Thank you for your support! --  Zanimum 20:23, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

User:Soxmanfriday
Dean Barnett? ==

I just read the article instead of only the diffs, and saw that Dean Barnett is referred to as Hugh Hewitt's "Man Friday", and that he runs "Soxblog". Think it's him, or just a fan?--SarekOfVulcan 13:13, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the note, Jersyko. I understand the policy and won't object if you or others would like to remove the links. NIMSP 16:50, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

Bellevue?
I was wondering why you changed all of the edits I made to the Bellevue page. I felt after being around for 100 years, the page focused on a few unfortunate events and not on the ministry of the church. I think by posting the positive things and more about the church shows the blessings that Bellevue has been able to share with others for over a century. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Gwdorris (talk • contribs).


 * You removed several paragraphs of information that were verifiable in reliable sources and replaced them with non-neutral information that is not verifiable in reliable sources. While I might agree that the article gives a bit too much weight to the recent events, the events certainly warrant mention in the article.  In any event, the article must remain neutral and verifiable in reliable sources.  Thanks. ·  jersyko   talk  13:57, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

Well I think that the part on controversy could be significantly shortened and much of the information came from the church website and material which is a verifiable source. It can be "neutral" and still promote positive attributes about the church because after 100 years the does not represent the church well. The history should be lengthened to tell about the tradition of the Love Offering which was is a big deal with lots of meaning to the church. There is nothing about communit and mission impacts. After looking at other prominant church articles, Bellevue's is rather pathetic and should be edited to include more history and the vastness of the ministries. Also, the Passion Play and Singing Christmas Tree should be mention, as they draw large crowds of 40,000+ every year. So I think this article needs major changes.

by the way
I'm leaning more toward 99%. Tvoz | talk 05:58, 18 August 2007 (UTC)

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Fred Thompson age difference again
Zsero has resumed his deletion of the age difference between Fred Thompson and Jeri Kehn Thompson. As a participant in previous Talk discussion on this matter, your presence at Talk:Fred Thompson would be appreciated. Italiavivi 14:52, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

Wikimania in Atlanta!
Mike H. I did "That's hot" first! 07:24, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Sorry you won't be able to attend. Thank you for the well wishes! Mike H. I did "That's hot" first! 22:48, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

thanks!
Doin' my part to make us all famous... A few details not quite right - and I said a whole lot more that didn't make it in - but all in all, not so bad. Front page even. Tvoz | talk 04:59, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

Re Sufjan Stevens
I think your your work on the Sufjan Stevens article has much improved it's readibility. I don't have to time to lean how to edit, but if you are inclined, these facts would add to the article's accuracy; both may be easily verified.

"Maple River" as a clue to the possibility that Sufjan's next "state" album will be about Minnesota: There are a number of Maple Rivers in the U.S., and one of them, in the Northwest lower pennisula of Michigan, runs within or near the county where Sufjan lived for many years as a child and young adult- Emmet County, Michigan. This is the Maple River of the song title.

The reference to Sufjan reading a book about Robert Moses: As it reads now, the statement relates only to the fact that both Sufjan and Moses live/lived in New York City. For many decades, Robert Moses controlled urban development and renewal in NYC, and was responsible for planning and building the Brooklyn-Queens Expressway, the subject of the instrumental piece Sufjan has written for performance at the Brooklyn Academy of Music in November, '07.

Regards, 3cats1dog —Preceding unsigned comment added by 3cats1dog (talk • contribs) 18:45, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

No Need for Cleanup Tag on Rhodes College Page
Jersyko, I verified the info on the Rhodes College page. Apparently, the college had some folks updating some of the factual enrollment and other numbers on their page, and they were aware that they weren't allowed to update their own page or it would show up as a COI tag. There was no attempt to deceive; rather, some of their info was out-of-date... --Stacy —Preceding unsigned comment added by Truk mazzy (talk • contribs) 20:19, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

Public Ministry
Tony Alamo is a minister of the Bible and has many friends in the Christian community. Churches around the world have literally started churches under Tony Alamo's name. To delete a section in Tony Alamo's article entitled "Public Ministry" certainly would not fall under the catagory of NPOV. He is a minister and many have testified regarding this. he has had letters from reputable christian based colleges commending his literature within the last five years. The "Dubious source" and weasel words" as you (Jersyko) have put it are very wrong. I will be forced to bring this to arbitration. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tlthe5th (talk • contribs) 20:13, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

Jerseyko Is deleting small section of a Christian Minister's public ministry section newly created by me,Tlthe5th. The minister's name is Tony Alamo and has had controversy surrounding him but to be nuetral i believe it should be said that Tony is considered a Christian minister by many including very well known and established Christian Universities. Baylor University in Texas for instance. Churches around the world have been founded and named after Tony Alamo because of the profound effect his literature has had.

there was a web site set up listing some testimonies of individuals who have found God (the God of the Bible) through Tony's literature and Jersyko deleted them citing "dubious sources" and "weasel words". Yet other web sites which are alleging slander against Mr Alamo are allowed to stay up. Is this NPOV? Matter of fact one of the web sites which is slandering Mr. Alamo was shut down by the host due to possible legal retribution. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tlthe5th (talk • contribs) 20:33, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

Not a Sock Puppet Account
Thanks for your friendly reminder about sock puppetry, that is not what is going on in that case. I do not have more than one account on Wikipedia. Rather, as a Rhodes alum (as are you) and a Rhodes staff member, I was asked to help resolve the COI tag on the Rhodes page. While I've used Wikipedia as a information resource for years, I've never edited an article. And I'm obviously still new to, and ignorant of, many of the various Wikipedia policies, including COI, which I now understand and appreciate.

As a fellow Rhodes alum, I'm sure you would like to help remove the COI cloud over the Rhodes College page. Do you have any suggestions for how this page can be quickly reviewed by an impartial observer so that COI tag can be legitimately removed?

The page is not a lengthy one, so it may be easier to review than others that require a more in-depth investigation.

Truk mazzy 22:30, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

User:69.22.219.18
Jersyko --

Someone from IP address 69.22.219.18 seems to be on a campaign to undo your edits.

See

-- Terry Carroll 14:14, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

FAR notice
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Take a look at this
User:MD12752 - Remind you of anyone? Like this guy? I mean, identical style username as a previous sockpuppet, identical edit style, identical scope. I'm not an expert bird-watcher, so I'll let you make the call. --Haemo 04:38, 11 October 2007 (UTC)


 * I have no idea who this MD12752 guy is, but he left a bizarre message on the talk pages of several admins, including me. I'm very unfamiliar with anything going on regarding the Clinton article, but this MD12752 guy seems odd to me. Why would he, out of the blue, leave a cryptic message on my talk page regarding the Clinton article and some "error in the Prentice position" article. Also, he used to claim to be a doctor which I see appears to have been the case with a prior sockpuppet. --Matthew UND (talk) 05:21, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Same registration date too, eh? --Haemo 05:25, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
 * I concur - same pattern on several levels. He's been busy today. Tvoz | talk 05:44, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
 * MD12752 just sent me two emails. One email focused on his desire for me to unblock Dereks1x. The other email answered my question of why he chose to contact me about this...mainly because I'm a North Dakotan and we are honest, helpful people...sure. My theory is that he is trying to find an admin who is not familiar with Dereks1x's history, confuse the admin with the bizarre types of messages he left on my talk page, and when the admin is thoroughly confused...convince the admin to unblock Dereks1x. --Matthew UND (talk) 06:32, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, the guy that you banned was with we when we both started to edit. You know why you have such a problem? It's because you are banning several people, at least 3, maybe more. You think it's one person but who has so much time to edit? If you persist in this banning attitude, you just prove that you want to control a certain section of wikipedia. You are more interested in your power because if you weren't, you wouldn't be banning so many people, even those that are politically of the similar viewpoints as you. You claim disruption but where is the disruption except you being disruptive bullying others? I am not my brother's keeper but the users that I see whom you accused of being a sock had valid points raised. MD12752 06:41, 11 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Right, you are not your brother's keeper, you are your brother. This is clearly another Dereks1x sock, the third one uncovered in the last  few hours. Tvoz | talk 06:47, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

Clearly a sock. Blocked. Thanks everyone. · jersyko   talk  11:59, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

SCV article
Is this more along the lines of what you had in mind? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sf46 (talk • contribs) 21:10, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

FL Main page proposal
You either nominated a WP:FLC or closed such a nomination this year. As such, you are the type of editor whose opinion I am soliciting. We now have over 400 featured lists and seem to be promoting in excess of 30 per month of late (41 in August and 42 in September). When Today's featured article (TFA) started (2004-02-22), they only had about 200 featured articles and were barely promoting 20 new ones per month. I think the quality of featured lists is at least as good as the quality of featured articles was when they started appearing on the main page. Thus, I am ready to open debate on a proposal to institute a List of the Day on the main page with nominations starting November 1 2007, voting starting December 1 2007 and main page appearances starting January 1 2008. For brevity, the proposal page does not discuss the details of eventual main page content, but since the work has already been done, you should consider this proposal assuming the eventual main page will resemble either an excerpted list format or an abbreviated text format. The proposal page does not debate whether starting with weekly list main page entries would be better than daily entries. However, I suspect persons in favor of weekly lists are really voicing opinions against lists on the main page since neither TFA nor Picture of the day started as weekly endeavors, to the best of my knowledge. Right now debate seems to be among support for the current selective democratic/consensus based proposal, a selective dictatorial approach like that used at WP:TFA or a non-selective first in line/calendar approach like that used at WP:POTD. See the List of the Day proposal and comment at WP:LOTDP and its talk page.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/tcfkaWCDbwincowtchatlotpsoplrttaDCLaM) 19:07, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

Official photos
I argued that official photos carry a POV incompatible with the Wikipedia philosophy and you asked me to elaborate.

Photographs tell a story; official photographs, whether distributed by government organizations or political campaigns have undergone careful crafting to project a controlled image for an ideological purpose. While no photograph (or statement for that matter) realizes perfect neutrality (because, even with attestible assertions, willful inclusion and exclusion shape a message), an official photograph in a Wikipedia biography counts as the visual analog of a subject writing his or her own biography.

I have attempted to offer photographs I took at a recent event meant to capture Edwards as he seemed on that day, attempting neither to vaunt him nor to paint him in an unflattering light. In the spirit of full disclosure, I have neither decided to vote for him or not, so I avow that I do in fact portray him from a neutral viewpoint. Dvfinnh 03:34, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

You have no right to censor.
I have sources and if you continue to block these edits then i will have to report it to wikipedia mgmt.

Your attempt to conceal is very obvious. I have demostrated Harold ford dated the women and is FACT. They say so on their blogs and is known to all. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ergn (talk • contribs)

Dereks1x
Just in case no one gets around to it before you log in. Two more Dereks1x socks.[] --Bobblehead (rants) 00:02, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

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wat did i do —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.81.89.102 (talk) 21:35, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

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1880 Republican National Convention
Thanks, Jersyko! I was interested in post-Reconstruction political history, specifically the divide within the Republican Party (Stalwarts vs. Half-Breeds). Per chance, I checked out Kenneth D. Ackerman's Dark Horse: The Surprise Election and Political Murder of President James A. Garfield from my local library. It was a captivating work about the 1880 Republican National Convention, the internal conflict within the Republican Party, and the events that led to Garfield's assassination. I saw no article was written about the 1880 Republican National Convention, so I started working on it in my sandbox, until it was completed. :) Nishkid64 (talk) 00:48, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

Email
I've sent you an email. Picaroon (t) 01:50, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

Talk page disruption
It looks like an IP you recently blocked is now making disrutpion on their talk page. Semi-protection may be a good idea.--U.S.A.U.S.A.U.S.A. deleted contribs 03:35, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

Featured List of the Day Experiment
There have been a series of proposals to initiate a Featured List of the Day on the main page. Numerous proposals have been put forth. After the third one failed, I audited all WP:FL's in order to begin an experiment in my own user space that will hopefully get it going. Today, it commences at WP:LOTD. Afterwards I created my experimental page, a new proposal was set forth to do a featured list that is strikingly similar to my own which is to do a user page experimental featured list, but no format has been confirmed and mechanism set in place. I continue to be willing to do the experiment myself and with this posting it commences. Please submit any list that you would like to have considered for list of the day in the month of January 2008 by the end of this month to WP:LOTD and its subpages. You may submit multiple lists for consideration.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:LOTD) 17:42, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

Page protection Negro
I know about the wrong version, but this is a vandal version that's protected. Can you at least go back before the IP vandal and then protect THAT version. It would be appreciated, and less embarassing to Wikipedia. ~Jeeny (talk) 00:11, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

Protection of Negro
Jersyko, while I commend you for protecting the article, I would say pretty much everyone would agree you did protect the wrong version (ya, those). If you're unsure, please take a look at the article history, at WP:ANI and at WP:3RR where IP 222.155.xxx.xxx has been active. This is a suspected sock of a banned user (Hayden5650 a.k.a. Nordic Crusader). If you're still unsure that this is indeed vandalism which should be revertd, I'll be moe than happy to discuss and provide further info.--Ramdrake (talk) 00:12, 17 November 2007 (UTC)


 * The proof is in the history you'll see a number of editors reverting that vandal sock IP. Here's the last one before you protected it: ~Jeeny (talk) 00:18, 17 November 2007 (UTC)


 * The article should be left as is. The template plainly states it is not an endorsement, and removing the picture would prevent good debate. Constructive debate has been started on the talkpage. --222.155.47.162 (talk) 00:19, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
 * I can assure you this is merely a content dispute, and discussion has been started. There is no vandalism, the dispute is over a portrait.
 * Oh, hell no. You are gaming the system....again. This is not merely a content dispute, and you know it. It is incorrect information, in fact it is trolling. And you know that too. Putting "crispy negro" lynching photo in before. ~Jeeny (talk) 00:28, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
 * THANK YOU! ~Jeeny (talk) 00:36, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Jersyko,, while I may have problems proving just by this article that this is indeed vandalism, please take a look at the list of contributions of all the different 222.155.xxx.xxx that have reverted on the article over the last 24 hours. I trust you will find a definite pattern of vexatory edits, on user talk pages, at ANI, at 3RR and here. If you look back between 24 and 48 hours, you will find that such a series of edits by a 222.xxx (such as this: )even changed the intro to say that Negro was a term describing a species of mammal falling midway between Humans and the common Monkey.
 * I rest my case.--Ramdrake (talk) 00:38, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks! :)--Ramdrake (talk) 00:40, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

Page Vandalism
tlthe5th is apparantly back to vandalising the page on Alberto Rivera he is just not logging in. He is revising under the IP address 69.22.219.18, you may want to consider blocking that IP. Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kmerian (talk • contribs) 12:07, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

neuitral?
who are you trying to fool posting a threat on my talk page and supporting the agenda pushing vandals? Cliché Online (talk) 21:06, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

Andrew Kohut
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The Democratic Party (also known as The Democrat Party)
Response to Primalchaos and Jersyko concerning use of the phrase "also known as The Democrat Party". I understand what you are saying, but is WIKI about accuracy or about political correctness? Regardless of the positive or negative connotation some choose to place on the noun 'Democrat' or the adjective 'Democratic', the issue here is not one of spin. The specific issue is whether the 'subject' of the Wiki article, the American political party commonly known as 'The Democratic Party' is 'also known as' -- or known by -- other words. And also whether those words are ones commonly applied to the subject, and commonly understood to mean the subject. If the answer is yes, then incorporating the words that the subject is 'also known as' is a valid and appropriate usage, and that includes whether or not one chooses to interpret those 'other words' in positive or negative light. I will also post this message on the article's discussion page. Fungible 09:40, 05 January 2008 (UTC)

Ourshalf ourshalf sock
sock of -- 12 N oo n  2¢ 03:39, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I thought you were on line, I took it to AIV. Regards.-- 12 N oo n 2¢ 04:06, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

Steve Cohen tags
Jersyko, I noticed that you removed the tags from the Steve Cohen page. Am I breaking a rule by doing this?

Thanks, Danielc192 (talk) 21:04, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

David Saks
It sounds to me like the situation has to be toned down. Striking out comments is not the answer. I denied the RFPP anyway! The most important question for WP seems to be who is David Saks and should he be in Memphis? Why not RFC it? Who is David Saks?

The question is not who is right or wrong. The question should be who is David Saks? Archtransit (talk) 20:57, 2 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Discussed ad nauseam, consensus reached. That is not the question anymore.  The question is why David Saks continues to post on Wikipedia in violation of his block for a legal threat. ·  jersyko   talk  21:26, 2 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Received your e-mail. Replying with commentary about how to resolve problems. Archtransit (talk) 18:02, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

Oh, boy. You know, I was just thinking the other day that it seemed like a long time since this one had come up.

I've checked out the posts, and it's clear from the style that this account is a sock of User:Reneec. So the next step should absolutely be an SSP report, not dispute resolution. I doubt a checkuser is even possible at this point (those logs don't hang around all that long) but I really don't think one would be needed anyway.

I can appreciate Archtransit's desire for harmonious editing, but given that this is pretty clearly Reneec, and considering the threats Reneec made, I don't think there's much of a chance for that. Further, unless there are any new arguments to be made that justify revisiting the matter (MiSoDS's comments at RFPP and some quick google web and news searches for Saks's name tell me there isn't), there's really no point in dragging a long-settled issue into dispute resolution. This isn't a dispute between two editors, or two groups of editors. This is one very tendentious editor trying to act against consensus. -- Vary | Talk 18:48, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Filed at ssp. -- Vary | Talk 01:27, 4 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Heh, sure. Glad that finally got sorted out. -- Vary | Talk 05:23, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

MPD-W
I should have said "yet to be determined by me". I should also say that I doubt I will make such determination. (I have no desire to join the Memphis Police Department-Wikipedia Police Station or the prosecutor's office of Memphis.) You have page protected the Memphis talk page so a valid discusssion is impossible. These are just observations and not a request for you to do something. Archtransit (talk) 22:37, 3 February 2008 (UTC)


 * A valid discussion already took place and consensus was reached. · jersyko   talk  22:39, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

AfD nomination of David "None of the Above" Gatchell
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Obama and Iran
Thank you for the clarity. I assure you that the unwieldy (undue weight) nature of my entry was unintended. Also, I am Canadian and far left (whatever that means), so I can also assure you that I am not working for the Hillary Campaign; my only desire was to help complete the picture. Actually, I rather wondered if Obama's criticism of another candidate's position had any place amongst the "Political positions of Barack Obama" at all. It seemed more like an embedded criticism of Clinton than an example from his platform. Still, I shy from contesting the work of others and so simply added to it. - horseytown 2008-02-18 04:30 UTC

The Office
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