User talk:Jespinos/Archives/2007/August

Revision request: Valdivia, Chile
I have been working for a long time ith the Valdivia, Chile article, and I have expanded it a lot. I think it could soon be Good Article (GA), but first the article needs something like peer review, could you help to improve the article? Dentren |  Ta lk  18:25, 20 July 2007 (UTC)


 * In the Valdivia, Chile article i feel that some information is unneserarily repeated becuse Im not sure in whitch section it should be. I dont mean that all informetion can only be said once, I just want to make the article nice to read and keep everything on its topic. Maybe some of the sections of the article is unnesesary. I would like to have you opinion about:


 * The economy section vs the last part of recent history - in whitch section should the recent history of the economy be?
 * The economy section vs the last part of Independence and growt - in whitch section should tourism be?
 * Prehispanic times vs Independe and growth - a cite of Charles Darwin is repeated because it is important to contrast his description of the landskape with early Spaniars one, but in whicht section should this comparison be made?
 * Independence and growt vs German influences vs Education - Information about the German school apears in each of these sections.
 * Independence and growt vs German influences - where goes the limit between culture and history, the things that are said in the history section could be said under German influnces and viceversa.
 * Government and politics vs Ecological action - The CELCO case is named in both parts.
 * Government and politics vs Culture vs Great Chilean Earthquake and Valdivia in Los Lagos Region - Where should the information about the creation of Los Ríos Region be placed? Dentren  |  Ta lk  09:01, 18 August 2007 (UTC)

My description of the tsunami IS neutral - please read this message
I made some changes in the 1868 Tsunami part. I wrote:

On August 16, 1868, the Peruvian port of Arica was devastated by a tsunami which followed a magnitude 8.5 earthquake in the Peru-Bolivia Trench off the coast. The earthquake and tsunami killed an estimated 25,000 people in Arica and perhaps 70,000 people in all, this tsunami is well documented by press and photo. An officer of the US ship Wateree, L.G. Billings, who later became a rear admiral, in 1915 published a horrifying account of his experience as a witness of this earthquake in the Peruvian coast.[1]

This part of Arica's history belongs only to Peruvian history, since that port was then part of Peru. The account is completely neutral because there are no discrepancies in the text: - The text is completely accurate in historical terms. - The Tsunami affected only the Peru-Bolivia border, since it was barely detected in Cobija, thus it could not be felt in Chile. - The accounts of Admrl Billings describe very vividly the experience lived in that Peruvian port. The phrase "earthquake in the Peruvian coast" belongs to him.

The text was deleted by you. I find no reason for doing this, since the text is completely neutral and accurately describes the historical events. Please reconsider your decision. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Special:Contributions/ (talk)
 * It is tendentious and biased to repeat the info about the Peruvian sovereignty. The earthquake issue is used only as a excuse to include nationalistic text, it is only question of looking at your history on Wikipedia for proving this fact. To call Peru-Bolivia Trench to the Peru-Chile Trench is original research and blatant POV-pushing. Jespinos 22:36, 22 August 2007 (UTC)