User talk:Jesse47

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I see that you are a new user, with very few edits although at the same time your edits seem to be somewhat contradicting that. We can discuss things better based on wikipedia policies such as WP:FRINGE, WP:RS, WP:NOR, etc etc, however as a person with very few edits first you should be given time to fully familiarize yourself with all policies. We can use the sources that you brought just not in a way to support your original research. For example it can be added to the end of the article that according to one person he was only proto fascist, while another called him clerical fascist, etc etc, but this not goes into the lead, these are minor issues, and FRINGE views cannot be represented with the same weight as majority views. Hobartimus (talk) 08:50, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
 * If we go one by one I can take your point on "puppet state" provided you have a better suggestion for use in the Tiso article, what would you suggest? Second if you want to use sources you can use any book you have but it is preferred if you can link to it if possible. When you know what you want to cite you might find and link that cite on google books like this . One possible place to start with the article to describe the divide is add a section to the article titled "controversy" or "public image" something like that and there discuss the different opinions listing all of them. Like X describe him as "clerical fascist" Y says proto fascist, Z says authoritarian, while fascist leader is also used by ... etc. But just speaking about the rest of the article you can add citations from anywhere as long as it is a reliable source (more description at WP:RS) currently the article has very few sources so adding more citations could improve it. Hobartimus (talk) 19:19, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

Sandbox
You can develop the section in your own sandbox User talk:Jesse47/sandbox you can edit it like an article and when it's ready move it into the new article. You can use this space to develop a controversy "public image" or similar section about the various descriptions used in scholarly works. Page number must be given in all cases for a citation to be valid but internet links are only preferred, not mandatory. Other users tend to like cites with links a lot more since it's more easily verifiable but citing a book with page number is also done in some cases. I didn't get what you wanted to say with "The sources that I provided in my last note, incidentally, are also available on Amazon through the search inside feature. Is that good enough, or do I need to learn a different method?" I'm not a big amazon user so I don't know what you wanted to say there. However you wanted to cite this book's 62th page in google books sometimes it's possible to link to the exact text on the 62th page if it's tracked by that service if not it would be a nice thing to quote the sentence in the footnote briefly. Once you collect and cite the sources it will be much easier to decide how to formulate the section. Hobartimus (talk) 16:00, 3 May 2009 (UTC)
 * I started the page for you User talk:Jesse47/sandbox as you see it's editable like any article you can develop the section there just give the page numbers accurately and try to look for some online sources too that are available for everyone to check. Hobartimus (talk) 16:07, 3 May 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm waiting for the other parts of the article that you promised to develop and would show all the different interpretations found in the literature regarding the clerical fascist/fascist question. Hobartimus (talk) 02:35, 19 May 2009 (UTC)