User talk:Jessie dazzle

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Hello, Jessie dazzle, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions, especially your edits to Dodge Tomahawk. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are a few links to pages you might find helpful:
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Please discuss deletions
Please discuss your content deletions at Talk:Dodge Tomahawk. Also please do not use copyrighted images. --Dennis Bratland (talk) 20:47, 11 May 2016 (UTC)
 * The photo you uploaded at Wikimedia Commons says "by Mark Walters", but you have it marked as "own work". Can you clarify who took the photo and is the copyright owner? Also, you can't have a photo marked as "copyrighted" and at the same time license it for modification and reuse at Commons. It has to be one or the other, and generally without watermarks or overlays on the image.Please go to Talk:Dodge Tomahawk or Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Motorcycling to discuss more, or to ask questions. Thanks! --Dennis Bratland (talk) 21:37, 11 May 2016 (UTC)

May 2016
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 * The following is the log entry regarding this message: Dodge Tomahawk was changed by Jessie dazzle (u) (t) ANN scored at 0.870872 on 2016-05-11T20:54:59+00:00.

Dennis, all images I have uploaded were created by me, Mark Walters, the designer of the Tomahawk. To be more precise, all photos were taken by me and the design images were created by me. This is why you will not find them anywhere else; they have never been shared with the public.

I'd like to complete the edit by adding more images (design images, CAD renderings, etc.).

Please be clear about copyright marks; as creator of the images I own them. I'm happy to share them but I want credit for having created them. Please advise...

I'd also like to correct some of the information regarding how the project was born, designed and finally built. The current entry is not at all accurate.

Finally, the editing process is not particularly user friendly! I stopped when the editing work I had done to that point was not visible. Maybe it is awaiting approval; if so, it would be nice if there were some sort of feedback stating as much.

Communicating with you via a Wikipedia edit is very awkward... You obviously have my e-mail address, so why not send me a simple e-mail to which I might more easily respond?


 * Hi Mark,There are several issues to explain here. I'll start with image uploading. Keep in mind that I'm just an ordinary volunteer editor with no special status other than I've been doing this a while, and I'm only giving you my own understanding of the published rules. Don't hesitate to seek other input at Help:Getting started, Teahouse, Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Motorcycling and so on.The unique images you want to share are most welcome. We don't have very many images of the Tomahawk -- there's only five pictures at Category:Dodge Tomahawk. In spite of the media exposure, there are not that many pictures and videos out there. If you look at Commons:Project scope it explains the general types of files they want. The licensing must be either public domain or a free license, explained at Commons:Licensing. You definitely can use a license like CC-by-SA so you get credit for your photos. Just keep in mind you are making a donation to the Wikimedia Foundation, and anybody will be free to copy, redistribute, and modify your photos, provided they give credit for the source. If you change your mind later, you won't be able to revoke your donated images.On my user page at User:Dennis Bratland I have a number of examples of my photos that have been re-used elsewhere. Many websites have copied my photos and not given credit, which is a license violation, but for the most part legitimate publications will give you photo credit, as required. Obviously people get away with doing whatever they want on the Internet, but in principle we work hard to respect copyright and licensing, and request that other do so.Photo credit goes in the Author field, such as at File:1924 Brough Superior SS 80 front.JPG it says "Author Dennis Bratland". Adding watermarks or photoshppoing text into the image serves only to degrade the quality and usefulness of the image. If somebody is bent on violating the licensing and using it without giving credit, that stuff isn't going to stop them. They can easily photoshop or crop it out.Adding the Dodge logo inside the image is inconsistent with the educational purpose outlined at c:Commons:Project scope. Using a photo that looks like it came from a magazine ad in an encyclopedia article undermines the appearance of neutrality that we work towards, so we try to only use photos that illustrate the subject in a visually appealing way that does not appear promotional, and is simple and unadorned without any extraneous elements. A lot of photos taken at bike shows have sexy models in the shot, or a photo of a motorcycle has more of the Grand Canyon in the frame than the bike. We use photos like that only if we really have no alternative. In the case of the Tomahawk, though, I think it would be great to have a freely licensed photo of Wolfgang Bernhard on the Tomahawk in his pompadour and leather jacket at the Detroit Auto Show.We have some guidance on what we like to see for motorcycle pictures at WikiProject_Motorcycling/Conventions, and at Featured pictures/Vehicles/Land and Featured picture criteria. The image you uploaded was quite good, other than the added text and logos.That's a lot to say about images, with a lot more to read if you follow the links I gave. Sorry it's all so complicated, but as you gain experience it starts to make sense, at least a little bit, why it is like this. For your other questions, I or another volunteer will come back and try to help you out. If you want to go ahead and upload more pictures, please go ahead, and if there are any difficulties, please ask. For the Tomahawk, I'd particularly like to have more close-ups of the details of the unique parts, particularly as the suspension, hub-center forks, swingarm, and steering mechanism, as well as the lights, brakes, and controls. --Dennis Bratland (talk) 17:48, 12 May 2016 (UTC)


 * Another note: nobody can see your email address. You're getting email from the Wikipedia servers because over at Special:Preferences you've entered an address and checked the option to get a notice when someone edits your talk page. You might have also enabled the "Email this user" option, but that routes messages through the server as well; the sender and the general public don't get to see your email address. You could post your email address if you'd like, but that is not at all necessary, and it is risky to publicly reveal personally identifiable information. See Emailing users and Personal security practices. --Dennis Bratland (talk) 19:32, 12 May 2016 (UTC)

Dennis,

Thanks for your thoughtful reply. I'm not going to bother with images, it would take forever to remove the logos and other unwanted features. I'm working on getting computers out of my life for all but the most basic tasks (I'm returning to the tangible world). I'll make one more attempt to correct the numerous errors in the text.

Thanks,

Mark
 * Before you spend too much more time on that you should first try to understand Wikipedia's policies. I can explain more later but for now check out WP:V, WP:autobiography and WP:TRUTH. I really would like to have you contribute on this topic but it isn't as simple as just going in and changing whatever you happen to know is in error. We can only work from published sources, even if an individual knows that some of the published information is incorrect. Will have time to discuss more later. --Dennis Bratland (talk) 18:53, 13 May 2016 (UTC)