User talk:Jesus Castañeda Retiz

Request for a source for the shruti ratios
Greetings: You've contributed interval ratios to the English Shruti (music) and Spanish es:Shruti (música) articles. Where did you get those ratios? You seem to be saying they're implied by a construction in the Natya Shastra. Yes, but have you worked you the implication yourself or did you find it already worked out in some reliable source? Could you please respond on User Talk:Basemetal (my talk page)? Thanks. Basemetal 12:38, 26 March 2018 (UTC)


 * Thank you very much for attempting to answer my question but there seems to be some misunderstanding as to what my question really was. What I meant was, where did you get the ratios? How do you know that for example Dayāvatī is at 256/243 from Chandovatī. Where did you get 256/243? How do you know it is that ratio and not some other ratio? What is your source for that ratio? Basemetal  20:31, 27 March 2018 (UTC)

Oh that information was already on the page when I consulted it, on one occasion I added approximation values to the tempered 53-tone scale, but finally I deleted those values and left the table as it was before I edited it. However, checking the page in Tamil I see that it is different: --Jesus Castañeda Retiz (talk) 20:45, 27 March 2018 (UTC)


 * Oh, I'd thought you had created that table from scratch. Ok, thanks. I'll try to find what editor created that table and inserted those values, and ask them where they got them. Thanks a lot. Btw, you didn't need to use a footnote to refer to another page, even on a different Wikipedia. You could have referred to that Tamil page much more simply like this: ta:சுருதி. Basemetal  20:56, 27 March 2018 (UTC)

Ok thank you! I think this is a more reliable source of the names, frequencies and ratios of shruti tones:


 * You didn't need to do that either . How about: "I think this is a more reliable source of the names". If you're interested I've found out what editor had created the table in that article, back in the days. That was User:Keenan Pepper and his source was: Donald A. Lentz, Tones and Intervals of Hindu Classical Music, University of Lincoln-Nebraska, 1961. Btw, I don't know if one should consider Dr. Vidyadhar Oke (that's his site you referred to) a reliable source. He's basically just a guy who's marketing a tunable harmonium. He's a medical doctor, not a doctor in musicology or music theory. I'd tend to put more reliance on Lentz. But I do follow what Oke does. Cheers and thanks again for responding so quickly. I didn't expect that since your last edit dated from two years back. Basemetal  21:29, 27 March 2018 (UTC)


 * PS: Amazingly I see that User:Gopalkoduri took out the reference to Lentz's book as an "irrelevant reference" on February 6, 2011. What am I allowed to call an editor who does something like that, that would both accurately characterize them and not go against Civility? Basemetal  21:46, 27 March 2018 (UTC)