User talk:JetLover/Archive 3

There be nothing here...
Ahhhh, it's the apocalypse!!!! *runs around screaming* Silver seren 02:03, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Your ignoring me, aren't you? T_T Silver seren 22:05, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

Re: User talk:71.34.1.46
I'm using Twinkle, and I saved the warning before I realized that the revert didn't go through because you had already reverted his edit. Sorry for that. &mdash; User: (talk • contribs • count) 00:46, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Ah, it's OK. Cheers,  Je tL ov e r (talk) 00:47, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

nonsense
please stop adding nonsense to my talk page // laughing man 04:57, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
 * i'm going to ask, please stop adding the nonsense to my talk page. // laughing man 05:00, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Sorry, you vandalized. Cheers,  Je tL ov e r (talk) 05:03, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
 * this is the 3rd time i'm asking you to stop adding nonsense to my talk page, you are now vandalizing my talk page, so stop, consider this my last warning // laughing man 05:05, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Well, you bought this on yourself for vandalizing a talk page. Cheers,  Je tL ov e r (talk) 05:09, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Whatever your opinion is fine, your message is clear. Perhaps you should consider updating your talk page header, as you state  "...IF YOU DO NOT FOLLOW THESE RULES, I WILL REMOVE IT." Well, I have my own rules for how I maintain my talk page, and you reverting my edits to my talk page is out of line, and borderline vandalism in itself. // laughing man 05:13, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
 * I'm beyond assuming good faith with you, what do you think you are going to accomplish?   I'm going not going to waste any more of time on this nonsense, as you have already wasted my limited time to contribute here on Wikipedia I had available.
 * Please, take this opportunity to cool down and read about some Wikipedia guidelines that you really don't seem to be aware of. User_page // laughing man 05:21, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

Adopt user:Mitchowen
Sorry, but I have adopted user:Mitchowen. Sorry. Holmes.sherlock 05:17, 21 August 2007 (UTC)


 * Sorry to jump in the middle of this, but the above editor has not been adopted by Mitchown. An offer was made, but the offer was not responded to. -- Gogo Dodo 06:51, 21 August 2007 (UTC)


 * And, as Holmes.sherlock has asked me to adopt him(!) and as he doesn't meet adopter criteria, I have removed him from the list of those offering adoption, and left a note on Mitchowen's talk page as well. Regards, BencherliteTalk 07:46, 21 August 2007 (UTC)


 * Thanks guys, He has not abopted me, JetLover, and am free for adoption if you offer still stands. As well, there is a coadoptee question for you on my talk page. - Mitch Owen Talk  &#169;  12:47, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

Thank You
Thank you for informing me of the site issue. I am now better equipped FOR THE WAR AGAINST THE VANDALS! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Vlaze (talk • contribs).

Your Rfa
Hello JetLover, I'm sorry about your RFA, and thanks for the smile! Please read my comments under my !vote at your RfA, and do not hesitate to email me or leave me a note on my talk page if you would like clarification, more advice, or what have you. Hope you're doing OK, and the demise of your RfA doesn't devastate you. Cheers, Ne ra n e i   (talk)  02:15, 24 August 2007 (UTC)
 * You're very, very welcome. Keep up the good work! Cheers, Ne ra n e i  (talk)  03:12, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

Different discussion, but still related, so same header: You're quite welcome. Sorry things didn't work out, but let me know if you decide to run again. It won't be canvassing since I'm 1) requesting it and 2) not promising to ote in any particular manner ;-). Happy editing. Hers fold  (t/a/c) 03:34, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

prop joe edits
i dont think my edits qualify as vandalism.. i simply removed all mention of him as fictional for about 3 seconds linked my brother to the page and then reverted it back to the way it had been previously. i think this pretty harmless and doesnt warrant a write up about vandalism in my talk page. it is good to see you are so vigilant but i hope you can see the clear difference between trying to harm wikipedia by trying to slip by offensive edits.. then in using its feature for a split second to pull my brother's leg.

aside from that no complaints.... i dont know if you are in contact with other admins but on pages that don't have alot of verified points.. it seems like admin bias runs rampant on what can and can't be included, especially on band/musician/celebrity pages with unverified points that fit a mod's preconception or desire being allowed to stay in while others, many which can be verified in books but not on line, are written off as original research/uncited. i don't know how it works with the admins, if this is something you can put up for discussion, or if its just a waste of time —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Special:Contributions/ (talk)

Wikismile
Thanks for the wikismile. Try again soon! Politics rule 04:27, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

Your RfA
Wow, your RfA was over before I even got a chance to go look at it. Sorry that it didn't work out for you. I am sure that you already see what areas you need to work on. You have been and I don't doubt that you will continue to be an excellent RC Patroller, you will have my support next time you go for an RfA. Cheers, Trusilver 18:20, 24 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Um, ouch...that RFA looked like it hurt. And that is why I am never going to do one. XP Silver  seren C 20:51, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

Barnstar
Thanks, mate! :D --Dreaded Walrus t c 02:23, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

Adoption
Thanks for the offer to adopt. The subjects I am interested in do not match your interests. So I am a bit hesitant. I am also confused about how this adoption thing works. I do not have much issues about the basics of editing. I had a few questions about merging pages, page naming etc. I have put those on my userpage hoping that people who would offer to adopt me would answer those questions. Can you help me with those questions? Thanks --Kaveri 13:39, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

Thanks
Thanks for updating the vandalism count on my usertalk page. AngelOfSadness talk  22:49, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

smile!


has smiled at you! Smiles promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by smiling at someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Happy editing! Smile at others by adding {{subst:Smile}} to their talk page with a friendly message.


 * Nothing, really. I just feel like smiling today -- Polar Wolf  01:51, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

Indefinite block
Yeah, sorry about that, I wasn't paying attention and didn't realize it was a user and not an IP. I made it indefinite :) ugen64 23:36, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

Re: Adminship
You will nominate me? Sure. I would like to be an admin someday. NHRHS2010 Talk  01:58, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks. NHRHS2010  Talk  02:00, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Questions answered. NHRHS2010  Talk  02:11, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Are my answers better? Question #3 is the shortest answer since I don't get stress very often; I always enjoy being in Wikipedia. NHRHS2010  Talk  02:22, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
 * It looks like my RfA is going to fail. Too many opposes. A few more opposes, and I will withdraw my RfA. NHRHS2010  Talk  14:08, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
 * I have withdrawn my RfA, due to too many opposes. NHRHS2010  Talk  15:02, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

MascotGuy report to WP:AIV
While I'm familiar with MascotGuy, and have no doubt that's him, remember not everyone is. You may wish to link to the abuse report in the text of any report to AIV so that whoever reviews it can check if it's a clear enough sock to block immediately. Also, while I'm sure you're trying to be helpful, please don't place the confirmed sockpuppet tag (the one that states the user is blocked indef) until the user actually is blocked, as this can be confusing to people. (If you want to put a suspected sock tag, that's fine, but if it's going to AIV it's going to happen enough that's probably unnecessary.) Just a couple suggestions, and in no way to disparage your work chasing down vandal socks, keep up the good work! Seraphimblade Talk to me 05:44, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

RE: Your comments at my talk page
Hi there, no that wasn't me - I have cleared it up with a wikinews administrator.  Ben hello! 00:39, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
 * My (ex) flatmate :-P -- Ben hello! 00:41, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

Talk page guidelines
JetLover, do you mind if I tweak the formatting on your talk page guidelines?  Cheers, Lig  hts  01:51, 30 August 2007 (UTC)


 * I posted it at Wikipedia talk:Sandbox. If it get's deleted, you can view it here.  Cheers, Lig  hts  02:03, 30 August 2007 (UTC)


 * A list of some of the articles I created can be found here. I do not wish to become administrator right now, but thanks for asking :)  Cheers, Lights  02:27, 30 August 2007 (UTC)


 * Btw, I fixed your guidelines. Feel free to revert.  Cheers, Lig  hts  02:31, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

Mmbabies
Please understand that I was not being critical (and I am sure Picaroon was not either) when we commented on your request for arbitration. The problem you pointed out is a serious one, and if you have any suggestions for addressing it they will be appreciated. It's just that we figured that there wasn't much that the Arbitration Committee could add to solving the issue. Once a user is community-banned indefinitely, there really isn't anything more of a sanction that can be imposed. Regards, Newyorkbrad 00:43, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

Thank you!
Thank you for the pretty, shiny thing on my talk page! I am very grateful! Cheers, Ne ra n e i   (talk)  22:37, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Oh, thanks! I appreciate it. Come to think of it, the template is on the CSD notice. Thanks! Ne ra n e i   (talk)  23:38, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

Re:User talk:85.141.134.236

 * I thought I had reverted it, so I proceeded to warning him. I guess we tried to revert it at the same time but you were slightly faster. AngelOfSadness  talk  23:02, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

RE:Giggy
Yes, there are several reasons, but the main one isn't the cabal thing. I suggest we respect his privacy and let him go. Happy editing! -- Boricua  e  ddie  02:11, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

Sockpuppets
Do you think sockpuppets ? Oysterguitarist 02:21, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Seeing as what I do I wouldn't be able to think of anyone, maybe Taotrac? Oysterguitarist 02:44, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Definitely seems like somebody who would do that. Oysterguitarist 02:49, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I guess we wait now. Oysterguitarist 03:07, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

There's an autoblock on Skullfux81(#610784) if you check the Blocked IP addresses at 1:55 UTC Oysterguitarist 03:20, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

Talk white people
Hi. I have made an RfC on this page for the proposed disambig page. I just wanted to say that you seem to be supporting a "long" disambig page rather than a "short" disambig page. This seems to be in contradiction to your statement "We just can't have an article called "white people!" You might like to go back and have a look at what you are actually voting for. Cheers. Alun 06:55, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

Warring message
Thanks for the advice. Truth is, it's always the really stupid things I get caught on. It's just those kind of edits that make you forget that no matter how obviously against style it is, it's still not vandalism. — Someguy0830 (T | C) 07:27, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

Assistance.
Hello Jetlover,

I wanted to know if there are any specific guidlines to posting a company profile, like google's or yahoo on Wikipedia, and where do i go to do so. I dont knpthat this might now be your speciality, i went through everypage i can and nothing is clear. Any help or guideline you can provide is grealty appreciated. PS: Where do i go to check your reply? Btalk Btalk 20:32, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks
Thanks for protecting my user page from vandals; I emigrated across the Atlantic recently so don't have much time on the Internet at the moment! Mark Grant 16:45, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

MascotGuy barnstar
Thanks. It actually wasn't that bad, just dumping lists into a text editor and massaging them a bit, but I'm still glad you think it's useful. :) &mdash;tregoweth (talk) 20:10, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

Introducing myself/clarifications
Hello JETLOVER, THIS IS VASCO AMARAL FROM PORTUGAL...

I appreciate your remark, only adding that is does not mean that i am shouting (and some people really deserve it) just for writing in capitals. Sometimes it is there by mistake and i don't change it because the words are what matter to me, not their size or font. Other times i just want to stress something.

ANYWAY, THANK YOU (AT LEAST YOU DID NOT CALL ME A VANDAL, SOMETHING I AM NOT AND HAVE BEEN ACCUSED OF) AND I HOPE TO WIKI-SEE YOU SOON...

VASCO AMARAL,--217.129.67.28 20:59, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

User talk:DAVIDCREWS
He can blank his user talk page if he wants--this is pretty well established legite Wikipedia. I do it all the time, and so can you, should you desire. KP Botany 00:30, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Gold Plated Fish Stick‎
How come you told GPFS she was blocked when she wasn't?--  Max  Talk [ (+)] 01:33, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Ooops, I was checking the wrong log. Sorry about that.--  Max   Talk [ (+)] 01:39, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Pointless
Hello I was wandering about all those jets you love and I can't see the F-15, even though it's still quite the best fighter plane in existence. o_O  Peace keeper II  nobody but me 09:12, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Sure
I would love to be adopted--Blue-Eyes Gold Dragon 02:40, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

That template
Thanks for the template names, I would be considered a new editor by most of the users here, but I think I've got this place figured out while I was an IP user. I didn't make more than a few edits though, mostly surfing. Is that comment on Twinkle? Or should I jot it down? --Yamakiri on Firefox 21:38, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

Thank!
Hey Jetlover, Thank you for the assistance. I did upload the company profile today. You can find it under MyCarBiz.com or just MyCarBiz. The weird thing though is when i search for it, it does not show in the search results. Do you know why? Please let me know if you have any input as i want to insure that this follows the guidelines everyone follows. Thanks again! Btalk 23:04, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

Tina Tang AfD
I tagged the page for speedy deletion and it was deleted, thought i would let you know. Tiptoety 23:08, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

OK
Thank again. I would really appreciate that. And the company is fairly new, so they do not have much credability yet, but we are serious about our business but with a short history there is still a lot to do before we are known.

Btalk 23:23, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks
Hi, thanks for the vandalism revert that you made on my user page. —Jeremy (talk) 01:14, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

How....
How do you make your signature different colors?--Blue-Eyes Gold Dragon 07:57, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

KZ and KZ2
I put in a request for semi protection of Killzone and Killzone 2. ICAPTCHA 21:55, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

User talk:71.180.252.251
Hiya, thanks for the message. I'm aware that I deleted Cluebot's warning, and I did do so deliberately, rather than accidentally - given the nature of the edits concerned (pure vandalism on the initial edits of an IP user) I thought it was relatively reasonable to not assume good faith, and to assume that the edit was therefore vandalism. I didn't think it would be appropriate to leave Cluebot's warning in place afterwards, as it would undermine the seriousness of the warning that I was placing. If that's the wrong way of doing things, then so be it, and I apologise. Giles Bennett (Talk, Contribs) 22:27, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

Re:Adminship
Hello Jetlover, nice to see you again! I have had two other offers of noms, would you mind emailing me to discuss this further? I am completely flattered and honored. Love, Ne ra n e i   (talk)  22:37, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Well, as I said, I've had some other offers, and there would be some timing issues to discuss. (That's not a "no" by the way! [[Image:face-grin.svg|25px]]) Love, Ne ra n e i   (talk)  23:30, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Could you please email me? It'd make this easier...there are some other people who may have decided or may have not decided to be involved, and I don't want to name them and lock them into something. I'd really appreciate it! By the way, I'm very flattered to have an offer [[Image:face-grin.svg|25px]]! Love always, Ne ra n e i   (talk)  23:58, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

Re: Thanks
Re your message: No problem. I had deleted it twice before. This time I got the deletion reason right. =) The editor was getting a little frustrated, but it was still a copy/paste job from the company media center. -- Gogo Dodo 04:25, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

Killzone 2
Some of the fanboys have old accounts, and they are changing tiny words again.

real-time gameplay -> pre rendered, etc.

Maybe go into full protect mode? At least it's manageable now. ICAPTCHA 11:49, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

typo
Hope you don't mind that I took the liberty to adjust a little typo here. —AldeBaer 19:15, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks!
Wow, I've been using the uw templates for probably well over a year…nobody ever pointed out they're supposed to be substed! Much appreciate the correction, I'll do that in the future. -Pete 05:13, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

But
God is an important article and there has been vandalism. Don't believe me gohere--Angel David 00:33, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

Err...
Well... Can you help me overcome my vadalism? I have a firey hatred of Charter Communications as you can see here: That was from before I was a Wikipedian. I would like to put all that behind me and become a productive citizen. Thank you! Lord Spase Peepole 20:27, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

RE:Question
I didn't know you made the revert. I use Twinkle, and when I see vandalism, I click revert and then it automatically reverts and opens the user talk page that did the vandalism, so that a warning can be placed. We both did it at the same time. Notice the times (25 minutes after). - Rjd0060 23:30, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Are you really so terribly concerned about it that you need to ask about it? - Rjd0060 23:40, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Yeah, sorry. I understand that.  Feel the same way.  I have a little bit slower of a connection so I think thats why that happens sometimes. - Rjd0060 23:44, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

CHQ
Hey its because of people like you that trusted me that it passed so you have my sincerest thanks for supprting me :) having an alternate account is within policy as long as it isn't used in a disruptive manner, however I would recomend that if you create an alternate account you add a template informing of this (like Eddie did here) just to avoid any sockpuppetry accusation. -  Ca ri bb e a  n ~ H. Q.  23:42, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

RE:Congrats on adminship!
Well, I'm not Caribbean H.Q., but I think I can answer your question. Alternate accounts are indeed permitted; see WP:SOCK. --Boricuaeddie is now  Ag ü  eybaná  23:38, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

Okay
Fine. You got me! :) As you say, cheers! --Angel David 00:14, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

Dude! You are awesome!
Thank you so much for giving me a second chance! Your vandal reforming program is great. Thak you! Sincereley, Lord Spase Peepole 18:08, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

User '71.166.10.31'
The page feminazi is a crying example of the kind of irritating non-NPOV that fuels criticism of Wikipedia. Calling user 71.166.10.31's edits 'vandalism' just because they do not confrom to the slant of the rest of the page is entirely unfair Revolutionaryluddite 18:54, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

Re: 65.94.216.47
It's pretty bad, yes, but it's a DSL IP address, so it may or may not be dynamic. I'm usually wary of giving longish blocks to those IPs as a first recourse. If the user comes back with the same vitriol tomorrow, we can assume that the IP address is relatively stable and can revisit the idea of a longer block at that time. But maybe the user will have become bored by that time. — TKD::Talk 22:18, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

Abuse report on Mmbabies
Thanks for filing an abuse report. However, it's been rejected as there was only one new IP on your list that hasn't already reported to AT&T. Let's give them a few days to take action, and if the abuse continues past say today or tomorrow, then either file a new report or an addition to your current report (if you do that, remove the ARA template I added and re-list it on the main page) with some new IPs or a note that the ones already listed have re-vandalized. --Darkwind (talk) 03:52, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

My RfA
Thanks for supporting my recent successful RfA. I easing into adminship with a couple of blocks and deletions! I'll try to get to your editor review in the next few days. Let me know if I can help you with anything. Cheers! -- Flyguy649 talk contribs 04:22, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

Worthless?
On Wiktionary, someone is calling my contributions there "worthless". :'( Angie Y. 18:19, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

ban of User:Tajik
Please take a look at this. Thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.83.130.20 (talk) 18:47, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

subst'ing
Ah, good catch. I know that subst'ing is important, I leave a lot of user warnings and almost always remember to do so. But that was a goof on that one page. Thanks for noticing and fixing it (and the personal attack...). Georgewilliamherbert 22:06, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

User 194.82.255.248
Thanks for your comments. Someone else who reverted some of this IP address's vandalism today had already put a warning on their talk page, so I didn't bother with another one. I just felt that vandalising a page three times in one day, combined with their track record of vandalism as evidenced by their talk page (including a previous block) warranted more serious action. Sidefall 22:58, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

my talk page
hot damn, you're good! Thirty seconds to revert that nonsense on my page...thanks. Really, a big ugly vandalism warning is NOT what I needed to see right now. :) Your vigilance is much appreciated. :) K. Lásztocska 03:39, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

User: 58.168.70.208
Please dont revert notices of vandalism. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.248.185.43 (talk) 03:53, 15 September 2007 (UTC)
 * I have replied to you.  Cheers,JetLover (Report a mistake)  03:56, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

September 2007
Please stop. If you continue to blank out (or delete portions of) page content, templates or other materials from Wikipedia, as you did to user talk page 58.168.70.208, you will be blocked from editing. 77.248.185.43 03:56, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

I am not deleting anything, I am reveting your bad edits.  Cheers,JetLover (Report a mistake)  03:57, 15 September 2007 (UTC)


 * I have told you half a dozen times to stop putting vandalism on user talk pages. I have put the correct warnings. Hardly vandalism.  Cheers,JetLover (Report a mistake)  03:59, 15 September 2007 (UTC)


 * If 77.248.185.43 does this again, report to WP:AIV and my talk page. If I'm online, I'll block him.Rlevse 15:42, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

vandal report on AN/I
take it to WP:AIV, you'll get a faster response. Also, consder putting a link to your talk page in your signature. ThuranX 04:34, 15 September 2007 (UTC) it's the little 't' in the middle of his name. took me a while to find it myself. 86.137.28.211 15:52, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

Reversion of disambiguation page
"Welcome to Wikipedia. Although everyone is welcome to make constructive contributions to Wikipedia, at least one of your recent edits, such as the one you made to Allied invasion of Italy, did not appear to be constructive and has been reverted or removed. Please use the sandbox for any test edits you would like to make, and take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. Thank you. Cheers,JetLover (Report a mistake) 02:18, 10 September 2007 (UTC)"

Why did you feel this was non-constructive? By directing the search for "Operation Avalanche" to the Allied invasion of Italy page, you've made the search for other uses of the term impossible.

Nevermind, I see what you did. The comment above still applies, but it's been handled differently now. 67.172.101.18 21:43, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

The Wikipedia Signpost
Hello. I saw from R's talk page that you wish to receive the weekly edition of the Wikipedia Signpost. Just add your name here, and you'll be set! Happy editing! -- Ag ü  eybaná  02:19, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

Reply
See my talk. -- (Review Me) R Parlate Contribs@ (Let's Go Yankees!) 02:19, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

RfA thanks
Thank you very much for your support at my RfA. Regards, Jogers (talk) 09:40, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

Circulator
Hi, I fear that 216.70.xxx.xxx may be provoked in to an edit/revert war on circulator. Maybe we could hammer out a compromise on the talk page? --catslash 16:25, 17 September 2007 (UTC) Apologies: I now see that the last revert wasn't by you, but to your last version. Sorry. --catslash 19:42, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

Sorry
Sorry, I'm using WP:TW and it keeps sending out the message before I can cancel. It doesn't stop when it detects that a tag has already been placed. Laaabaseball 22:10, 17 September 2007 (UTC)