User talk:Jet ltp/Streamline draft

Proposal
Topic: why should this be a Wikipedia article? Even though Adobe Streamline is discontinued, it is always good to have a traceable history of software in a similar manner that we still appreciate and know about tools and other technologies of the past that allow us to use the tools and technologies today.


 * To what degree was this software influential before it was discontinued that it merits expanding its article? Is this a piece of software that designers remember to be powerful and useful?  Are there known designs that were created with this software?  Does the software have a rich and interesting history?  How do features in new tools for tracing rely on what was in this software?  I suggest you reconsider why this is a notable topic that merits its own article - if this software is being discontinued by Adobe and is becoming obsolete, then you need a strong justification on why there is a need to describe its features, versions, etc.  You also need to be careful that the article will not appear to be promotional. LeshedInstructor (talk) 18:14, 21 September 2012 (UTC)

Article sections: What sections are you planning to write? How do you make sure the article is comprehensive and feasible within the time frame and resources you have?

Many application articles have a similar layout that includes sections such as History, Versions of the Program, Compatibility, Tools, Techniques, etc. Mimicking one of these, or an average of these layouts will allow the article to fit the style of this particular type of article.


 * In addition to the structure of what the sections will be, you need to provide an initial idea of what will be included in each section and where you will get the information for each section from. LeshedInstructor (talk) 18:14, 21 September 2012 (UTC)

[ Observer feedback: I suggest an article section on why the product was discontinued and what types of products have replaced the Adobe Streamline.] Maggie Remsen Mvr24 (talk) 18:12, 27 September 2012 (UTC)

[ Observer feedback: This page seems to talk about Streamline and why it was discontinued and what replaced it. It's been replaced by Adobe Illustrator. Maybe there can be a section that discuss the difference between the two, and why it made more sense to incorporate Streamline into Illustrator instead of continue Streamline as a separate piece of software.] Nguyen102 (talk) 18:23, 30 September 2012 (UTC)

Other article elements: What other elements are you going to put in the article - side box, images,etc.?

Screenshots from inside of the application itself are always beneficial, as describing programs with words alone does not give the reader a full understanding of what the program actually is. There are also a series of videos on Youtube detailing how to actually use the program which may be very informative to the reader.

Where are you going to obtain the images or information for the side box?

As mentioned before, images can be obtained via screen capture in the program itself, as well as from promotional materials released by Adobe.


 * You need to ensure that these materials are not copyrighted or that you have permission to use them under the Creative Commons license. Screenshots and promotional materials typically belong to the owner and are not open for use. Gabriel Mugar could help you with this. LeshedInstructor (talk) 18:14, 21 September 2012 (UTC)

References: initial list of 5 different sources for your article (e.g., not all from the same website)

http://www.tcs.org/ioport/strmlnrv.htm

http://designer-info.com/Draw/adobe_streamline_4.htm

http://www.adobe.com/se/products/streamline/pdfs/str4nfh.pdf

http://www.guidebookgallery.org/splashes/streamline

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grov_Y4s2gk


 * You also need more sources that link to the contents you want to develop. LeshedInstructor (talk) 18:14, 21 September 2012 (UTC)

Situating the article within the Wikipedia community: what other articles does it link to/from? Is it part of a WikiProject? Are there specific individuals in Wikipedia you will seek help from on this article?

Currently no articles link to Adobe Streamline, but the article itself links to Adobe Illustrator CS2 and Adobe Systems. IT is currently in the Wikiproject Computing/ Software. Currently the talk page is not active at all, so finding specific wikipedians might be difficult at this early stage. Perhaps we could seek help from other members in the same WikiPRoject?


 * This means this article is an orphan, and once you decide to improve and expand this article, you will need to consider contributing to Wikipedia by putting in links to this article from other relevant pages. Actually, there is a link to this article from Adobe Illustrator. You could request help from those who edit the Adobe Illustrator page. LeshedInstructor (talk) 18:14, 21 September 2012 (UTC)

Division of labor: what will each group member do?

Between the 3 of us, each member could be in charge of one or two sections completely, and then we could combine the work in a final stage OR we could split the work in such a way that one person is in charge of gathering and sorting through sources, another person could decide which information belongs where, and the 3rd person could fill in the article and style it appropriately.


 * Please be more specific -- who will be in charge of which sections, who will be in charge of sources, images, structure, styling, etc. LeshedInstructor (talk) 18:14, 21 September 2012 (UTC)

=Instructor's Feedback= This is a good start. My main concern is the notability of this article, which you might want to reconsider whether it merits expanding and improving. A good way to find out is to contact editors of the Adobe Illustrator page and discuss this with them. Specific comments appear above on your proposal itself.

Finally, putting more structure in your responses (e.g., section headings, bold fonts, etc.) would improve the readability of your proposal and could help you learn the Wikipedia format and style markup language as a way to practice toward writing the article itself. See an example in another group project here.

Good luck! LeshedInstructor (talk) 18:14, 21 September 2012 (UTC)

Observer Feedback
I think this is a really good article. I think one of your issues is linking certain articles to this page. I found in my article that lots of things that I ended up writing about had Wikipedia pages. Make sure you check on this as many of the items you will mention in this article will definitely have existing Wikipedia pages. This will be helpful in enhancing visibility for your article and more traffic/observer feedback. Mvr24 (talk) 18:16, 27 September 2012 (UTC)