User talk:Jfactor.in

Welcome to Wikipedia. Because we have a policy against usernames that give the impression that the account represents a group, organization or website, I have blocked this account; please take a moment to create a new account with a username that represents only yourself as an individual and which complies with our username policy. You should also read our conflict of interest guideline and be aware that promotional editing is not acceptable regardless of the username you choose. If your username does not represent a group, organization or website, you may appeal this username block by adding the text below this notice. You may simply create a new account, but you may prefer to change your username to one that complies with our username policy, so that your past contributions are associated with your new username. If you would prefer to change your username, you may appeal this username block by adding the text below this notice. Thank you. JohnCD (talk) 13:00, 2 December 2013 (UTC)

Contested deletion
Dear Editor,

This page is not unambiguously promotional, because... we have only used neutral language to describe the presence of the website/business and not to use this channel for marketing. We have not used any promotional or marketing language that seems to promote the website, instead we have kept it to encyclopedic nature where we just provided the real and correct information about the company, establishment, products category, ownership and Launch News from PR.

We positively hope that this will help remove the undeserving Spam Mark from our page.

Best Regards, Jfactor.in (talk) 13:01, 2 December 2013 (UTC)


 * I apologise that we do not make it clearer at sign-up time, but:
 * Wikipedia accounts must be for individuals only, who are personally responsible for them, and accounts whose usernames are the names of groups or organizations are not permitted.
 * Wikipedia is a project to build an encyclopedia. Itis not for advertising or promotion of any kind, and is not a place for companies to tell the world about themselves. Even with an individual account, before making any edits to do with your company or its products you should read the Plain and simple conflict of interest guide.
 * JohnCD (talk) 13:09, 2 December 2013 (UTC)

Ok John, I now got your point us that the user accounts are for individuals only. Sorry as I didn't know it before I have created the company page. But as I have invested a lot of time in creating this page. Can You please let me have a copy of the matter exactly as I have created it as I would now prefer to submit it as Article to wikipedia. Your help in the matter will be highly appreciated. Regards, Jfactor.in (talk) 13:26, 2 December 2013 (UTC)


 * I have emailed you a copy of the text. Wait for more advice from me on this page, maybe tomorrow, before you submit it. You will need more independent references: Wikipedia has an inclusion criterion called WP:Notability, which requires showing references to significant coverage in reliable, independent secondary sources. Press releases do not count; the test is whether people not connected with the subject have thought it important or significant enough to write substantial comment about. JohnCD (talk) 13:57, 2 December 2013 (UTC)


 * Received your email, Thank You for your kind help John. I understand "your point of references"... I will definitely wait to submit Article, till I hear from you. Thanks again:-)
 * Best Regards,
 * 122.161.188.12 (talk) 05:41, 3 December 2013 (UTC)

You will need to make a new account as an individual. Your username can be based on your real name, or not, as you choose (see WP:REALNAME for some considerations), but it should not be the name of another living person or of any group or organization. A name of the form "James at Jfactor" is quite acceptable.

You have two problems to overcome, which stem from the fact that Wikipedia is a project to build an encyclopedia, not a business listing directory or a "notice-board" site for people or companies to tell the world about themselves.


 * Because you are connected with the company, you have from Wikipedia's point of view a WP:Conflict of interest. Your interest is to boost your company; ours is to have a neutral encyclopedia. Please read Plain and simple conflict of interest guide carefully. The way round this problem is:
 * Don't write an article directly. Click on Help:userspace draft and input the title: that will make a draft page for you to work on, with a link "Submit the page" which will send it, when it is ready, to WP:Articles for creation where an experienced user will look at it and either accept it or give you feedback.
 * When you write, take great care not to be promotional. Do not write as the company addressing potential customers. (So, for instance, "One can make the purchase through Online Banking, Credit Card /Debit Card" is not appropriate). You are not writing for the company: you are writing for Wikipedia about the company, from outside.
 * Read WP:Your first article for advice.


 * A more difficult problem is WP:Notability. That is how Wikipedia decides what to include, and is not a matter of opinion but has to be demonstrated by references that show "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject." Significant means more than just listing-type mentions; reliable excludes Myspace, Facebook, blogs, places where anyone can post anything; independent excludes the subject's own website, affiliated ones and anything based on press releases. The test is, have people not connected with the subject thought it significant enough to write substantial comment about? See also WP:Notability (summary) and WP:Notability (organizations and companies.
 * That is quite a hard test to pass, and many worthy companies, particularly new ones, cannot pass it. That is not to their discredit, but it means they are not suitable subjects for an encyclopedia. Think hard about notability before you put much effort into this, because if a subject is not notable, no amount of editing or rewriting will make it notable.

Regards, JohnCD (talk) 22:42, 3 December 2013 (UTC)

Thank You again, John, for your extended help on the Topic. For "Notability" I think we need to wait for some more time to get few independent reliable references. I have got your point that there is no use of writing an article (no-matter how encyclopedic it may be in nature), the Notability test is very important to pass. So better to wait for now rather to waste mines and Wikipedia's editors time. Thanks again for making things so clear. :-) Regards, 122.161.162.11 (talk) 06:16, 4 December 2013 (UTC)