User talk:Jgutierrez52

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Suicide in college
Hi! I realized that I tagged the article and didn't explain why I'd given it those tags. The article had two major issues: it came across as an essay and it didn't take a global perspective.

For the global perspective, what this means is that the article really only focused on colleges in the United States, as the sourcing looks to be very focused on college suicides in the USA. While some of the fundamentals of suicide are global (depression, anxiety, hopelessness), each country and culture is different in what can contribute to the student considering suicide and can also greatly differ in what resources they offer students - if they offer any at all. It's something to take into consideration with the article. Writing from a global perspective can be difficult since it can be hard to find sourcing that deals with the topic in other countries, especially if those countries do not put out a lot of research on the topic or give it a lot of attention - which I would pretty much imagine to be the case with suicide in college. I wouldn't worry about this too much - that sort of tag is more of a bookmark for people to add more global content to the article over time.

The other is that the article did read a bit like an essay. What this means is that the article looks to be written more like a reflective essay on the topic and contains original research - conclusions you came to on your own. It's an excellent essay and is very compassionately written, however it's not really for the format Wikipedia uses. I feel a little bad writing that considering that your passion and interest in the topic really came through well, but encyclopedia articles and essays are almost completely different in how they're written. The main thing to keep in mind when writing an encyclopedia article is that it should be "just the facts". I can help you with this if you like - this is something that takes a while to get used to. I know that when I first started editing it took me a while to really get used to that.

Now all of that aside, I do like the sourcing you've used in the article. While sure, it focuses on the USA, the sourcing is from very reliable sources and looks to be perfect for the article. I'm especially impressed that you were able to find multiple sources that specifically deal with suicide in college. It's something that could be hard to find sourcing for, as I can see many academics and writers lumping college students in with general adolescents and/or only briefly mentioning suicide in passing in relation to overall college topics. You definitely did well with this. Shalor (Wiki Ed) (talk) 17:51, 8 August 2017 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Suicide in College


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Nomination of Suicide in College for deletion
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