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Please help me with... Hi I've tried to add Frank L Ridley to the cast of the 2021 film Don't look Up wiki page. I included a source but more importantly, I personally know he was in it. In the role of Flight Director Anderson. How do I add to the cast w/o it being automatically deleted? Thanks. There are no other online sources online except imdb etc. Jhowardcripes (talk) 02:45, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
 * You have to use reliable sources to back up any claims like this. Ⓩⓟⓟⓘⓧ Talk 03:35, 26 February 2021 (UTC)


 * Hi Jhowardcripes, I understand you know personally that Frank L. Ridley is going to be in Don't Look Up (2021 film) as Flight Director Anderson, but it's best to ensure all material added is verifiable in a reliable source. Despite its many flaws, we try to ensure that Wikipedia is a reliable reference encyclopedia. Wikipedia policy is to avoid adding information that you know but is unpublished, which is considered original research.


 * I know rules can be frustrating, but bear with me. Looking at the citations situation here, you've mentioned IMDb, on which there is specific guidance. Citing IMDb recommends avoiding IMDb for material relevant to living persons, for which a more stringent standard applies, as well as movies still in development or production. If you can't find any other source, my recommendation might be to cite Frank's website, which would be a primary self-published source about the person themself, though it might fall over the line of being self-serving (see guidelines in last link). Some editors might want to hold out for an official announcement or the final credits once the film premieres. It looks like a couple of other people have already added/removed the mention of Frank, so differing opinions exist.


 * It might be frustrating, but sometimes even if you know things are true they might not belong on Wikipedia. A minor part by a non-notable actor might not warrant inclusion under the WP:Scope of the article. It's also ok for things to be missing temporarily before more information is published. These things are related, since if no journalist or other source has made mention of it, maybe it's not important enough to include. --Anon423 (talk) 03:44, 26 February 2021 (UTC)