User talk:JiggleJog

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Again, welcome. Thanks, SqueakBox 14:58, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your thoughts. I see nothing which I have copyedited as justifying this patronizing display of material.  If you have a specific problem with a specific sentence which I have copyedited, then by all means discuss that specific sentence. JiggleJog (talk) 15:14, 20 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Err, you what? I give this useful feedback to all new editors who cross my path, and if you are so stuck up or paranoid or whatever perhaps you should seek out another hobby as your hostility at a friendly gesture indicates you don't have the temperament for when things get rough here, see WP:AGF, if you can't hack that don't stay around to make life unpleasant for others. Thanks, SqueakBox 16:01, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Bull. Your note above was a direct attempt to intimidate me.  It was  discourteous and patronizing, and far from being a "friendly gesture".  A more thoughtful "gesture" would have been to be polite, simply ask a short question, and then be specific about whatever problem you had encountered by my copyediting.  Once again, I ask you to state specifically what caused you to be so rude to cite the lengthy list above: no one "welcoming a newcomer" throws the entire book as a welcome.  If you do this to others, you should be ashamed.  I have never seen before a more egotistical, self-centered display of opinion anywhere here in Wikipedia.


 * Just as a note, the welcome message is pretty standard. The list of links is custom, and perhaps that is what put you off, but the rest of it is pretty boilerplate for the normal custom of welcoming contributors. Avruch  T 18:46, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Avruch, I appreciate your sentiment and thought. Yes, the "length, the customization, and the manner" in which all was conveyed was uncalled for.  A close examination of my copyediting on the Giovanni Di Stefano page, plus my contributions elsewhere, ought to have shown this-Squeakbox-person, that my copyeditiing was not "a hobby", nor "vandalism", nor "inappropriate", nor unprofessional.  His list continues with items such as (paraphrased): do not disrupt, verify, Notice of Administrators...; and blocks.  Over the course of the last year, I have had ample opportunity to witness other "pretty standard" welcoming messages (which are best illustrated by the sentiment discussed here). Squeakbox's message was not "pretty boilerplate for the normal custom of welcoming contributors".  If it were, I suspect that I would have seen other "new comers" react to such haughtiness as I have done.  Also, over the same period of time, I have witnessed how Squeakbox has "disrupted", supplied "unverified material", and caused the Giovanni Di Stefano article to undergo several reviews by Administrators.  Perhaps Squeakbox should read through his own list.  Lastly, if you will notice, he directs me to a Civility article yet among his first words from his mouth: "...if you are so stuck up or paranoid or whatever..."  Hardly civil if you ask me.  But...no one likes ugly battles, or tensions over things like this, so I will drop the subject, and move on, and ignore the little pipsqueak.