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Notability of Anatole Krasnyansky
A tag has been placed on Anatole Krasnyansky requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done because the article appears to be about a real person, organization (band, club, company, etc.), or web content, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is notable: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, articles that do not indicate the subject's importance or significance may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable. If this is the first page that you have created, then you should read the guide to writing your first article.

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For guidelines on specific types of articles, you may want to check out our criteria for biographies, for web sites, for bands, or for companies. Feel free to leave a note on my talk page if you have any questions about this. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 01:31, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

Park West Gallery-related edits
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Reference: --A. B. (talk • contribs) 00:58, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
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July 2008
Please stop. If you continue to vandalize pages by deliberately introducing incorrect information, you will be blocked from editing Wikipedia. &rArr;  SWAT Jester    Son of the Defender  03:03, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

Blocked
You have been blocked indefinitely for your extensive harassment of other editors across several articles related to capri pants and their inventors. It is entirely unacceptable to add factually incorrect information to perpetuate an unverifiable claim, remove sourced information that counters the claim, and mark the articles edited by people who oppose you as hoaxes. You've been following editors around Wikipedia destroying their work, and that is unacceptable here. We've had several email complaints about your actions, and accordingly I am blocking you from editing.

Note to reviewing admins: Do not unblock without first contacting User talk:Swatjester and receiving a response. &rArr;  SWAT Jester    Son of the Defender  03:07, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

Response to administrator
Factually incorrect information? How many articles from reputable sources do you want that Emilio Pucci created Capri pants? Here are just a few:

http://dlxs.lib.wayne.edu/d/dhhcc/bios/pucci.html

http://dept.kent.edu/museum/exhibit/pucci/pucci2.html

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/08/26/style/tmagazine/26pucci.html

http://www.ultimateitaly.com/fashion/emilio-pucci.html

http://www.handbags-online.us/emilio-pucci.html

http://www.fashionmodeldirectory.com/designers/Emilio+Pucci/

http://reviews.ebay.com/Emilio-Pucci-A-Guide-to-Emilio-Pucci-amp-Fashion_W0QQugidZ10000000001022967

http://www.poandpo.com/design-art-and-nice-stuff/puccis-coloured-swirls/

The unverifiable claims were the ones that I set out to remove from Wikipedia - the claims that a heretofore unheard-of Sonja de Lennart, who was completely unknown on Google until December 2007, created Capri pants.

Originally there was one site given as a source for the Sonja de Lennart claims - www.sonjadelennart.com, a site owned by Eleonora de Lennart and created in February 2008. A simple glance at this website will show that it is not a reputable source. Instead, it was fabricated for the sole purpose of fooling Wikipedia. Unfortunately, the Wikipedia hoax was not detected before answers.com and other websites picked up the false claim of authorship and it was included in an Associated Press article that was widely syndicated. The success of the hoax in tricking a reporter is now being used to give the hoax legitimacy.

Users Pchip and Delennart have had no other purpose on Wikipedia than to spread the false stories about Capri pants. Your actions in supporting their claims and in blocking the attempt to undo their persistent vandalism are damaging Wikipedia. JimRicefortheHall (talk) 08:26, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

Response
On behalf of the de Lennart family, you must stop with your defamation. Even if false information is being spread by some companies (including offshore/phantom companies which you mentioned as a reliable source, whose "company's seat" is a letterbox at the Mayfair House in England) doesn't change the fact that Sonja de Lennart is the inventor and original designer of the Capri Collection.

In 1945, Sonja de Lennart gave the collection [which includes the skirt, belt, blouse, hat, and pants] the Capri name (see original pictures from 1948 of the model wearing the Capri Collection with the "Capri" poster in the background). This occurred at a time when Emilio Pucci began to only design his sport skiwear [an editor asked Pucci to design skiwear for a story on European Winter Fashion, which ran in the 1948 winter issue of Harper’s Bazaar] and then he “presented in 1949 his (still) totally black and white sport collection”, (quote Professor Mueller/University Zuerich). There were no Capri Pants involved—a name only given by Sonja de Lennart. All his designs carried his own logo "Emilio." Only decades later did his company call them Pucci Pants.

It was much later, by the end of the 1950s, that Pucci copied/sold the Capri Pants like so many other designers. He used and annexed himself to the fame of the Capri Collection—fame created by Edith Head, who used Sonja de Lennart's complete Capri Collection for her movies— by selling the meanwhile well-known Capri Pants in his boutique "Emilio."

This doesn't make him the original designer and this doesn’t give you the right to defame a renowned designer. This lady, Sonja de Lennart, is 88 years old. She was born in 1920 and worked until the 1970s. There is a great amount of documentation that was never placed on the Internet as it was not as prevalent in Europe to do so.

You are not entitled to smear the well-deserved comeback of a designer who invented the Capri Pants and who influenced a whole generation of designers, including Emilio Pucci—as his use of Sonja de Lennart's creation of the Capri Pants proves (without even changing the name to Emilio Pants).

And keep in mind: If your claim was true and Emilio Pucci was, indeed, the original designer of the Capri Pants, he would never have accepted that Edith Head was accepting an Oscar for "his" alleged work without mentioning his name {and he would have probably if not definitely called them "Emilio Pants," or at least Pucci Pants, as his company did decades later] because Emilio Pucci was at that time already media-savvy—by contrast to Sonja de Lennart, who has hundreds of publications in local newspapers and magazines, but did not know how to handle international press. Furthermore, if your claim were true, Hubert de Givenchy, who also used Sonja de Lennart's Capri Pants but without EVER claiming to be the designer, would certainly have referred to Emilio Pucci while using Sonja de Lennart's Capri Pants for the movie Sabrina.

Do you think Emilio Pucci would have applauded that "his" work conquered Hollywood and earned somebody an Oscar ("took the world by storm") without giving him proper credit?

Did you not think that the de Lennart family would take care and make sure that their mother would benefit from her very own invention and pioneering work after WWII? Of course they would. And this, too, is their right! But your defamation and character assassination is not only based on utterly false information, it is serious and unlawful. Pchip (talk) 16:11, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

Nomination of Anatole Krasnyansky for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Anatole Krasnyansky is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Articles for deletion/Anatole Krasnyansky until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article..-- Toddy1 (talk) 14:04, 31 October 2015 (UTC)