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Landing at Anzac Cove
I am sure you are familiar with the Landing at Anzac Cove, even if only taking part in commemorations. I have a plan to get the article to GA class, and then as a new GA article it can be entered at DYK. If we time it right it can be on the front page on Anzac Day. To that end I have just reworked the article and its currently waiting for a B Class assessment. Any help or advice in achieving that is appreciated. I have left a TB message at several Australian and New Zealand MILHIST members talk pages. Jim Sweeney (talk) 14:53, 6 February 2014 (UTC)


 * I've added a couple of references to the talk page from OH G I & II and can look for more if desired.Keith-264 (talk) 18:10, 6 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks Jim Sweeney (talk) 18:40, 6 February 2014 (UTC)
 * There's some pretty good photos and maps here https://archive.org/search.php?query=times%20history%20of%20the%20war too. (vol 5 on)[User:Keith-264|Keith-264]] (talk) 21:31, 6 February 2014 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Wellington Mounted Rifles Regiment
The article Wellington Mounted Rifles Regiment you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Wellington Mounted Rifles Regiment for comments about the article. Well done! Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Sturmvogel 66 -- 01:02, 6 February 2014 (UTC)

Lots of ideas, here...

... that the Wellington Mounted Rifles Regiment had an establishment of 549 men, but suffered 640 casualties in the fighting at Gallipoli?

... that the Wellington Mounted Rifles Regiment found itself in such a serious situation in the Battle of Romani, that the regiment's clerks were ordered to burn their papers?

... that in the fighting for Gaza, the Wellington Mounted Rifles Regiment encountered enemy camel and aircraft patrols in fog, attacked across a lagoon, captured a field ambulance and artillery, cut through a cactus hedge, attacked a defensive position in a cemetary, and carried out several bayonet charges?

More to follow. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 05:54, 9 February 2014 (UTC) ... that in the fighting for Gaza, the Wellington Mounted Rifles Regiment attacked a cemetery? Jim Sweeney (talk) 11:15, 9 February 2014 (UTC)
 * I think the first one is more impressive or a play on the third


 * Thanks. I have gone with the first, now at Template:Did you know nominations/Wellington Mounted Rifles Regiment. I did worry a little about mentioning casualty figures too often in hooks, but I guess it's an important point and some may see only one of these hooks. Incidentally, the hooks thus far are getting between 3000 and 6000 clicks while on the main page (the other linked articles will be getting additional clicks) which is not stellar but certainly very respectable. (I think an Indian politician I did an article on got about 500 clicks.)


 * License tags for images are problematic; my understanding is that File:Powles p.119 saddled horse.jpg couldn't be used on the main page because of its license tags, but the machine gun team image can be used (maybe...?), even though they are from the same book! Maybe one or the other is wrong.


 * While thinking of hooks, I also thought of the subtle pun that the Wellingtons formed a crescent-shaped defensive position against the Ottomans; too subtle for some, perhaps, and not easy to fit into a hook. I greatly like the tale of Russell being told "use your own judgement[, man!]", about orders to carry out a near-suicidal and pointless attack, and his thus doing so: "promptly called it off". Couldn't work out how to get that into a hook either though. (Such a hook would have had to explain Russell's relationship to the regiment, etc., so would have ended up far too ungainly.) --Demiurge1000 (talk) 21:18, 11 February 2014 (UTC)

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 * Thank you - I had no idea it was that many, don't tell the wife. Jim Sweeney (talk) 16:15, 12 February 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Wellington Mounted Rifles Regiment
Thanks from the DYK project and me Victuallers (talk) 15:58, 15 February 2014 (UTC)

copyedit complete - Landing at Anzac Cove
Hi Jim, the copyedit of Landing at Anzac Cove is now complete. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 22:35, 15 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks once again - see above a bit of a juggling act now, submit for GA too early and it may not get at DYK for the anniversary. Wait to long and it may not get reviewed in time. Jim Sweeney (talk) 15:34, 16 February 2014 (UTC)

Italian divisions
Hi Jim,

noted that he does not believe the following divisions were motorized (17th Motorised Division Pavia, 25th Motorised Division Bologna, and 27th Motorised Division Brescia). Per his argument, I have done a quick search and found little in the way to support the titles either. I note that you have previously discussed this subject several years ago, and it is possible you have additional info that could be brought to the debate. If you have the time, would you like to pop over to the various talkpages and input? RegardsEnigmaMcmxc (talk) 06:09, 17 February 2014 (UTC)


 * Not really a reliable source(!), but from memory, R.T. Smith's 1980s computer strategy games had the Pavia, Bologna, and Brescia divisions specifically as non-motorised infantry divisions. (By contrast he has the Trieste division as motorised of course.)


 * Not quite clear where he got his info from though... --Demiurge1000 (talk) 22:20, 18 February 2014 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue XCV, February 2014
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British First World War cavalry generals
Jim, I have spotted another potential entry for British First World War cavalry generals. Br-Gen M.D. Little assigned to command 2/1st Welsh Border Mounted Brigade on 20 January 1915, according to Becke Part 2A, page 2. Unfortunately, I do not know anything more about him - not even a first name which makes searching the London Gazette impossible. Do you know anything about him? Hamish59 (talk) 21:22, 18 February 2014 (UTC)
 * There was a Brigadier-Gereral M O (Malcolm Orme Little) Little 9th Lancers during the Boer War. May be the same person with a typo. Jim Sweeney (talk) 21:40, 18 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Seems he was a colonel brigade commander in January 1915 then retired Jim Sweeney (talk) 21:48, 18 February 2014 (UTC)
 * This could be the man. Becke is consistent: on page 51 of Part 2B, he says 2/1st Welsh Border Mounted Brigade was commanded by Br-Gen M.D. Little when attached to 63rd (2nd Northumberland) Division.  I have have a go at the LG for various combinations of Malcolm Orme Little.  Cheers, Jim.  Hamish59 (talk) 09:04, 19 February 2014 (UTC)
 * I think that this is the right chap. I have been doing a bit of searching - results here: User:Hamish59/Malcolm Orme Little.  I cannot find anything that definitely says he commanded Welsh Border, though it is highly unlikely that M.D.Little and M.O.Little were not the same person [and I cannot seem to track down his CBE]  Problem is, I do not think he was notable enough for an article.  What do you think?  Hamish59 (talk) 10:56, 20 February 2014 (UTC)
 * As he commanded a brigade in South Africa he is deemed notable. Jim Sweeney (talk) 11:44, 20 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Fair enough. I will put something together over the next few days.  Hamish59 (talk) 11:57, 20 February 2014 (UTC)
 * OK, I have added Malcolm Orme Little to British First World War cavalry generals. I had to wedge him in as sort number 090a.  I hope this is OK.  Hamish59 (talk) 13:13, 22 February 2014 (UTC)
 * ...which has been nominated for a DYK Template:Did you know nominations/Malcolm Orme Little. Do you know what I need to do next?  Hamish59 (talk) 13:46, 23 February 2014 (UTC)


 * It needs a reference for the third retirement and you need to review a DYK nomination, if this is your first five DYK noms that requirement is dropped. But I would add a line saying how many nominations you have had and apart from that it looks good. Jim Sweeney (talk) 14:04, 23 February 2014 (UTC)
 * I cannot find a direct cite for him retiring three times. Perhaps "was promoted to Brigadier General three times" (local in South Africa, temporary in WWI and honorary post WW1) or "was Lt-Col, Colonel and Brigadier General simultaneously." (substantive, brevet and local, respectively).
 * I have only done one DYK - Manfred von Richthofen (general)

Your GA nomination of Landing at Anzac Cove
The article Landing at Anzac Cove you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Landing at Anzac Cove for comments about the article. Well done! Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Seabuckthorn -- 22:52, 22 February 2014 (UTC)


 * Thanks Seabuckthorn! That's great news.


 * Jim, under the circumstances, I will create a DYK entry for Landing at Anzac Cove five days from now, and I will also ask for it to be held until the appropriate date. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 23:11, 22 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Great thanks Jim Sweeney (talk) 01:05, 23 February 2014 (UTC)

Ideas...


 * ... that the landing at Anzac Cove was carried out by rowing boats towed by small steamboats?


 * ... that the first wave of the landing at Anzac Cove was 36 rowing boats towed by 12 steamboats?


 * ... that the senior officers of the landing at Anzac Cove requested a withdrawal by sea at the end of the first day ashore, but the force ultimately stayed for 8 months?


 * ... that Turkish forces initially could not be sent against the landing at Anzac Cove because its location was not marked on their maps?


 * ... that the landing at Anzac Cove was faced by a division commanded by Mustafa Kemal, "the most imaginative, most successful officer to fight on either side" in the Gallipoli campaign?


 * ... that the landing at Anzac Cove is marked on 25th April each year by a service at the cove, in 2005 attended by an estimated 20,000 people?

... any preferences? --Demiurge1000 (talk) 21:28, 26 February 2014 (UTC)
 * I think the last one with the date in. Jim Sweeney (talk) 07:18, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Hi Jim, sounds good, but which ref does the 20,000 come from? After skimming the three refs quickly, I can't find it. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 19:56, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Its 186 this one Jim Sweeney (talk) 20:51, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Ah, thanks, hadn't looked in the side box thing. Now updated with a note about that at Template:Did you know nominations/Landing at Anzac Cove. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 21:02, 27 February 2014 (UTC)

WikiCup 2014 February newsletter
And so ends the most competitive first round we have ever seen, with 38 points required to qualify for round 2. Last year, 19 points secured a place; before that, 11 (2012) or 8 (2011) were enough. This is both a blessing and a curse. While it shows the vigourous good health of the competition, it also means that we have already lost many worthy competitors. Our top three scorers were:


 * , a WikiCup newcomer whose high-quality scans of rare banknotes represent an unusual, interesting and valuable contribution to Wikipedia. Most of Godot's points this round have come from a large set of pictures used in Treasury Note (1890–91).
 * , a WikiCup veteran and a finalist last year, Adam is also a featured picture specialist, focusing on the restoration of historical images. This month's promotions have included a carefully restored set of artist William Russell Flint's work.
 * , another WikiCup newcomer. WikiRedactor has claimed points for good article reviews and good articles relating to pop music, many of which were awarded bonus points. Articles include Sky Ferreira, Hannah Montana 2: Meet Miley Cyrus and "Wrecking Ball" (Miley Cyrus song).

Other competitors of note include:


 * , who helped take Thirty Flights of Loving through good article candidates and featured article candidates, claiming the first first featured article of the competition.
 * , who claimed the first featured list of the competition with Natalia Kills discography.
 * , who takes the title of the contributor awarded the highest bonus point multiplier (resulting in the highest scoring article) of the competition so far. Her high-importance salamander, now a good article, scored 108 points.

After such a competitive first round, expect the second round to also be fiercely fought. Remember that any content promoted after the end of round 1 but before the start of round 2 can be claimed in round 2, but please do not update your submission page until March (UTC). Invitations for collaborative writing efforts or any other discussion of potentially interesting work is always welcome on the WikiCup talk page. Remember, if two or more WikiCup competitors have done significant work on an article, all can claim points equally.

If you are concerned that your nomination—whether it is at good article candidates, a featured process, or anywhere else—will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on WikiCup/Reviews. If you want to help out with the WikiCup, please do your bit to help keep down the review backlogs! Questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup, and the judges are reachable on their talk pages or by email. Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. J Milburn (talk • email), The ed17 (talk • email) and Miyagawa (talk • email) 00:01, 1 March 2014 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue XCVI, March 2014
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Nomination for deletion of Template:RAF Typhoon squadrons
Template:RAF Typhoon squadrons has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. MilborneOne (talk) 10:06, 29 March 2014 (UTC)

WikiCup 2014 March newsletter
A quick update as we are half way through round two of this year's competition. WikiCup newcomer (Pool E) leads, having produced a massive set of featured pictures for Silver certificate (United States), an article also brought to featured list status. Former finalist (Pool G) is in second, which he owes mostly to his work with historical images, including a number of images from Urania's Mirror, an article also brought to good status. 2010 champion (Pool C) is third overall, thanks to contributions relating to naval history, including the newly featured Japanese battleship Nagato. , who currently leads Pool A and is sixth overall, takes the title for the highest scoring individual article of the competition so far, with the top importance featured article Ian Smith.

With 26 people having already scored over 100 points, it is likely that well over 100 points will be needed to secure a place in round 3. Recent years have required 123 (2013), 65 (2012), 41 (2011) and 100 (2010). Remember that only 64 will progress to round 3 at the end of April. Invitations for collaborative writing efforts or any other discussion of potentially interesting work is always welcome on the WikiCup talk page; if two or more WikiCup competitors have done significant work on an article, all can claim points equally. If you are concerned that your nomination—whether it is at good article candidates, a featured process, or anywhere else—will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on WikiCup/Reviews. If you want to help out with the WikiCup, please do your bit to help keep down the review backlogs! Questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup, and the judges are reachable on their talk pages or by email. Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. J Milburn (talk • email), The ed17 (talk • email) and Miyagawa (talk • email) 22:55, 31 March 2014 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue XCVII, April 2014
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DYK for Landing at Anzac Cove
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WikiCup 2014 April newsletter
Round 3 of the 2014 WikiCup has just begun; 32 competitors remain. Pool G's was Round 2's highest scorer, with a large number of featured picture credits. In March/April, he restored star charts from Urania's Mirror, lithographs of various warships (such as SMS Gefion) and assorted other historical media. Second overall was Pool E's, whose featured list Silver certificate (United States) contains dozens of scans of banknotes recently promoted to featured picture status. Third was Pool G's who has produced a large number of good articles, many, including Falkner Island, on Connecticut-related topics. Other successful participants included, who saw three articles (including the top-importance Ian Smith) through featured article candidacies, and , who saw three lists (including the beautifully-illustrated list of plantations in West Virginia) through featured list candidacies. High-importance good articles promoted this round include narwhal from, tiger from and The Lion King from. We also saw our first featured topic points of the competition, awarded to and  for their work on the Sega Genesis topic. No points have been claimed so far for good topics or featured portals.

192 was our lowest qualifying score, again showing that this WikiCup is the most competitive ever. In previous years, 123 (2013), 65 (2012), 41 (2011) or 100 (2010) secured a place in Round 3. Pool H was the strongest performer, with all but one of its members advancing, while only the two highest scorers in Pools G and F advanced. At the end of June, 16 users will advance into the semi-finals. If you are concerned that your nomination—whether it is at good article candidates, a featured process, or anywhere else—will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on WikiCup/Reviews. If you want to help out with the WikiCup, please do your bit to help keep down the review backlogs! Questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup, and the judges are reachable on their talk pages or by email. Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. J Milburn (talk • email), The ed17 (talk • email) and Miyagawa (talk • email) 17:56, 4 May 2014 (UTC)

6th Airborne Division (United Kingdom)
Hi Jim. Do you have enough sources to improve 6th Airborne Division (United Kingdom) to GA at some point?

Incidentally, I was at the Overlord commemoration at HMS Belfast today, although it was a little limited; the advertised fly-past was limited to a single Lancaster that I could see. And the ship itself bears no resemblance to how it looked during Overlord of course. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 18:41, 20 May 2014 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue XCVIII, May 2014
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Redirection of Zielfahrzeug 68 to Panzer 68
Hello Jim. I would like to ask you for your opinien (or help). I am working most in the part of swiss military aviatc but also on swiss military vehicles and tanks. I do this in the german wikipeda, and also in the english wikipedia. I know english is not my native language and so there are some errors in my text. I createt a few pages about swiss military hardware some found use in service, others exists only as prototype. Some Exampels are the RSE Kriens (Missile) Ground- air missile, the FLORIDA Airspace monitoring and management system. I created a few pages about Saurer Miltary vehicles like the Saurer 10DM or the Nahkampfkanone 1, and a few vehicles from Mowag like the Mowag Shark or the Mowag Trojan infantry fighting vehicle. How ever I worked on the derivative vehicles of the Panzer 68, Like the Entpannungspanzer 65. But since quite a time a other wikipedia user (YSSYguy) says that my article about the Zielfahrzeug 68 is not important  enough to be as  own page, he always redirect it to the Panzer 68. I have to say that I had in the past some disagreement about some informations in  pages relatet to swiss military aviatic topics. How ever he works a lot on aviatic topics (I have respect for this work). but his only work in the field of military vehicles on the ground is to redirect this Zielfahrzeug 68 page to the Panzer 68 page. Please notice  also that the redirection of this was also made again from differend un insgned  IPs.. if you have a closer look at this IPs (for eg. 217.165.74.28) they often "worked" only on the same 3-4 pages. so I think this was always him who had done this. Well may I am wrong and the Zielfahrzeug 68 should stay redirected. But if it is not that important should then the AT-T page not also redirectet to the T-54/55page? So I would be thankfull if someone (like you) can have a look at the Zielfahrzeug 68 (not the rediredtion, at the page I had writen) Is it worth to keep it? Thank you FFA P-16 (talk) 13:04, 5 June 2014 (UTC)

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The Bugle: Issue XCIX, June 2014
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WikiCup 2014 June newsletter
After an extremely close race, Round 3 is over. 244 points secured a place in Round 4, which is comparable to previous years- 321 was required in 2013, while 243 points were needed in 2012. Pool C's was the round's highest scorer, mostly due to a 32 featured pictures, including both scans and photographs. Also from Pool C, finished second overall, claiming three featured articles, including the high-importance Grus (constellation). Third place was Pool B's, whose contributions included featured articles Russian battleship Poltava (1894) and Russian battleship Peresvet. Pool C saw the highest number of participants advance, with six out of eight making it to the next round.

The round saw this year's first featured portal, with taking Portal:Literature to featured status. The round also saw the first good topic points, thanks to and the 2013 Atlantic hurricane season. This means that all content types have been claimed this year. Other contributions of note this round include a featured topic on Maya Angelou's autobiographies from, a good article on the noted Czech footballer Tomáš Rosický from and a now-featured video game screenshot, freely released due to the efforts of.

The judges would like to remind participants to update submission pages promptly. This means that content can be checked, and allows those following the competition (including those participating) to keep track of scores effectively. This round has seen discussion about various aspects of the WikiCup's rules and procedures. Those interested in the competition can be assured that formal discussions about how next year's competition will work will be opened shortly, and all are welcome to voice their views then. If you are concerned that your nomination—whether it is at good article candidates, a featured process, or anywhere else—will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews. If you want to help out with the WikiCup, please do your bit to help keep down the review backlogs! Questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup, and the judges are reachable on their talk pages or by email. Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. and 18:48, 30 June 2014 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue C, July 2014
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Op Frankton
For Mr Sweeney

A number of interested parties are concerned that the Wikipedia entry for Operation Frankton is not accurate while also not decently reflecting the importance of this operation. The current entry is lightweight and not wholly correct  – much against the ideals of Wikipedia I would have thought.

One question that is being passed around those of us who care passionately about the memory of Raikes and his sailors and Hasler and his marines is by what authority do you comment on what are the well-established facts? In addition to Lucas Philips and S-Tailyour I also knew Raikes and Hasler and over the years  corresponded with Bull. Consequently I have been an almost life-long student of the Frankton story. Ashdown, Lyman and Rees did not have the privilege of knowing these men – especially Rees who by default allows his readers to assume that he interviewed Raikes whereas  he has simply lifted material from the book Blondie; much without accreditation.

In that regard you should know that the Royal Marines Historical Society has produced five pages of errors, examples of copyright infringement and plagiarism in Rees’s book. Yet, reading Wikipedia it would appear that Rees’s book is the only publication worthy of being quoted on Wikipedia. Ashdown and Lyman have, between them, produced first-rate, learned works that more than do justice to the operation and, as such, they will have to appear in the entry in due course as reliable sources. For Rees’s book, with its inaccuracies and plagiarisms, to have the monopoly of quotes is not good.

You say that the submarine’s log, as prime research material,  is not admissible. I can point you to many Wikipedia entries where such formal, official documents are the sole source of accurate information. Southby-Tailyour quotes direct from Tuna’s log  (and I can verify that this is correct) and while Ashdown  and Lyman do not quote the log directly their timings are well within an acceptable timescale. Nowhere (other than from Rees) is the time of 1730 mentioned - and it wouldn't be for this would have been be far too close to sunset which on 7 December at Bordeaux was roughly 1721 (local). It is simply not credible that ‘other sources’ differing by two hours can be quoted and particularly so as the footnote links this error to Tailyour’s  account which I don’t suppose will please him  too much.

George Meadows (talk) 10:54, 2 August 2014 (UTC)G. Meadows


 * Wikipedia does not use primary sources, suggest you read Identifying reliable sources for articles and your conversations with Tom Dick and Harry bear no weight. I do not have any authority and neither does anyone else, Wikipedia does not work like that. You keep saying Rees is unreliable but have failed to provide any evidence. Instead of edit warring why have you failed to take your concerns to the talk page as has been suggested by more than one editor. If you can improve the article, using reliable sources, go ahead. Jim Sweeney (talk) 16:56, 2 August 2014 (UTC)

Invitation to participate in an interview
Hi Jim, I'd like to invite you to participate in a group interview in the upcoming August issue of the Military History Wikiproject's newsletter, The Bugle, with editors who work on articles concerning World War I. We're conducting this interview to mark the centenary of the war, and it forms part of a semi-regular series of interviews on thematic topics. If you're able to participate, I'd be grateful if you could post responses to the questions at WikiProject Military history/News/August 2014/Interview by next Sunday 17 July. Please let me know if you have any questions about this. Regards, Nick-D (talk) 10:23, 2 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I meant 10 August, not 17 July. I shouldn't be typing anything with a heavy cold! Nick-D (talk) 01:18, 3 August 2014 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue CI, August 2014
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WikiCup 2014 August newsletter
The final of the 2014 WikiCup begins in a few short minutes! Our eight finalists are listed below, along with their placement in Round 4:


 * , a WikiCup newcomer, finished top of Pool A and was the round's highest scorer. Godot is a featured picture specialist, claiming large numbers of points due to high-quality scans of historical documents, especially banknotes.
 * 1) is a WikiCup veteran, having been a finalist every year since 2010. In the semi-final, he was Pool B's highest scorer. Cas's points primarily come from articles on the natural sciences.
 * 2) was Pool A's runner-up. Czar's points come mostly from content related to independent video games, including both articles and topics.
 * 3) was Pool B's runner-up. Another featured picture specialist, many of Adam's points come from the restoration of historical media. He has been a WikiCup finalist twice before.
 * 4) won the WikiCup in 2012 and 2013, and enters this final as the first wildcard. She focuses on biology-related articles, and has worked on several high-importance articles.
 * 5) is the second wildcard. George's points come primarily from meteorology-related articles. This year and last year, George was the first person in the competition to score.
 * , the third wildcard, was the 2010 champion and a finalist last year. His writes mostly on military history, especially naval history.
 * , the fourth and final wildcard, has participated in previous WikiCups, but not reached any finals. Bloom's points are mostly thanks to did you knows, featured lists and good articles related to sport and national symbols.

We say goodbye to this year's semi-finalists. ,, , , , and  have all performed well to reach this stage of the competition, and we hope they will all be joining us again next year.

There are two upcoming competitions unrelated to the WikiCup which may be of interest to those who receive this newsletter. The Stub Contest will run through September, and revolves around expanding stub articles, especially high-importance or old stubs. In addition, a proposal has been made for a new competition, the GA Cup, which the organisers plan to run next year. This competition is based on the WikiCup and aims to reduce the good article review backlog.

There is now a thread for brainstorming on how next year's WikiCup competition should work. Please come along and share your thoughts- What works? What doesn't work? What needs changing? Signups for next year's competition will be open soon; we will be in touch. If, at this stage of the competition, you are keen to help the with the WikiCup, please do what you can to participate in review processes. Our finalists will find things much easier if the backlogs at good article candidates, featured article candidates, featured picture candidates and the rest are kept at a minimum. As ever, questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup, and the judges are reachable on their talk pages or by email. Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. and 22:09, 31 August 2014 (UTC)

Co-ordinator election
G'day, Jim, not sure if you are keen, but have you thought about running in the Milhist co-ordinator election? We need a few more bodies in the line if we are going to complete our frontage this year, and with your experience I think you would be a good candidate. Nominations close at the end of 14 September, so if you are keen you would need to nominate soon. The nomination page is here: WikiProject Military history/Coordinators/September 2014. Cheers and have a great weekend. Regards, AustralianRupert (talk) 07:53, 13 September 2014 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue CII, September 2014
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WikiProject Military history coordinator election
Greetings from WikiProject Military history! As a member of the project, you are invited to take part in our annual project coordinator election, which will determine our coordinators for the next twelve months. If you wish to cast a vote, please do so on the election page by 23:59 (UTC) on 28 September! Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 22:06, 23 September 2014 (UTC)

WikiCup 2014 September newsletter
In one month's time, we will know our WikiCup 2014 champion. Newcomer has taken a strong lead with a featured list (historical coats of arms of the U.S. states from 1876) and a raft of featured pictures. Reigning champion is in second place with a number of high-importance biology articles, including new FA Isopoda and new GA least weasel. , who is in his fifth WikiCup final, is in third, with featured articles Pictor and Epacris impressa.

Signups for the 2015 WikiCup are open. All Wikipedians, new and experienced, are warmly invited to sign up for the competition. Wikipedians interested in friendly competition may also like to sign up for the GA Cup, a new WikiCup-inspired competition which revolves around completing good article reviews. As ever, questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup, and the judges are reachable on their talk pages or by email. Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. and 22:11, 30 September 2014 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue CIII, October 2014
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The Bugle: Issue CIII, October 2014, Redux
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WikiCup 2014: The results
The 2014 WikiCup champion is, who flew the flag of the Smithsonian Institution. This was Godot13's first WikiCup competition and, over the 10 months of the competition, he has produced (among other contributions) two featured lists and an incredible 292 featured pictures, including architectural photographs and scans of historical documents. , 2012 and 2013 WikiCup champion, came in second, having written a large number of biology-related articles. , WikiCup finalist every year since 2010, finished in third.

A full list of our prize-winners follows:


 * wins the prize for first place and the FP prize for 181 featured pictures in the final round.
 * wins the prize for second place and the DYK prize for 65 did you knows in the final round.
 * wins the prize for third place and the FA prize for four featured articles in the final round.
 * wins the prize for fourth place
 * wins a final 8 prize.
 * wins a final 8 prize.
 * wins a final 8 prize.
 * wins the GA prize for 27 good articles in round 2 and the review prize for 28 good article reviews in round 1.
 * wins the FL prize for three featured lists in round 2.
 * wins the FPo prize his work on featured portals.
 * wins the topic prize for a nine-article featured topic in round 3.
 * wins the news prize for 28 in the news articles in round 3.

Congratulations to everyone who has been successful in this year's WikiCup, whether you made it to the final rounds or not, and a particular congratulations to the newcomers to the WikiCup who have participated this year. We warmly invite all of you to sign up for next year's competition. Discussions and polls concerning potential rules changes are also open, and all are welcome to participate. The WikiCup judges will be back in touch over the coming months, and we hope to see you all in the 2014 competition. Until then, it only remains to once again congratulate our worthy winners, and thank all participants for their involvement! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. and 22:51, 4 November 2014 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue CIV, November 2014
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Nominations for the Military history Wikiproject's Historian and Newcomer of the Year Awards are now open!
The Military history Wikiproject has opened nominations for the Military historian of the year and Military history newcomer of the year. Nominations will be accepted until 13 December at 23:59 GMT, with voting to begin at 0:00 GMT 14 December. The voting will conclude on 21 December. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 01:35, 7 December 2014 (UTC)

Nominations for the Military history Wikiproject's Historian and Newcomer of the Year Awards are now open!
The Military history Wikiproject has opened nominations for the Military historian of the year and Military history newcomer of the year. Nominations will be accepted until 13 December at 23:59 GMT, with voting to begin at 0:00 GMT 14 December. The voting will conclude on 21 December. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 08:41, 7 December 2014 (UTC)

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WikiCup 2015 is just around the corner...
Hello everyone, and may we wish you all a happy holiday season. As you will probably already know, the 2015 WikiCup begins in the new year; there is still time to sign up. We have a few important announcements concerning the future of the WikiCup.


 * We would like to announce that Josh (J Milburn) and Ed (The ed17), who have been WikiCup judges since 2009 and 2010 respectively, are stepping down. This decision has been made for a number of reasons, but the main one is time. Both Josh and Ed have found that, over the previous year, they have been unable to devote the time necessary to the WikiCup, and it is not likely that they will be able to do this in the near future. Furthermore, new people at the helm can only help to invigorate the WikiCup and keep it dynamic. Josh and Ed will still be around, and will likely be participating in the Cup this following year as competitors, which is where both started out.
 * In a similar vein, we hope you will all join us in welcoming Jason (Sturmvogel 66) and Christine (Figureskatingfan), who are joining Brian (Miyagawa) to form the 2015 WikiCup judging team. Jason is a WikiCup veteran, having won in 2010 and finishing in fifth this year. Christine has participated in two WikiCups, reaching the semi-finals in both, and is responsible for the GA Cup, which she now co-runs.
 * The discussions/polls concerning the next competition's rules will be closed soon, and rules changes will be made clear on WikiCup/Scoring and talk pages. While it may be impossible to please everyone, the judges will make every effort to ensure that the new rules are both fair and in the best interests of the competition, which is, first and foremost, about improving Wikipedia.

If you have any questions or concerns, the judges can be reached on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup, on their talk pages, or by email. We hope you will all join us in trying to make the 2015 WikiCup the most productive and enjoyable yet. You are receiving this message because you are listed on WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. J Milburn (talk), The ed17 (talk), Miyagawa (talk), Sturmvogel 66 (talk) and Figureskatingfan (talk) 18:53, 7 December 2014 (UTC)

Voting for the Military historian and Military newcomer of the year now open!
Nominations for the military historian of the year and military newcomer of the year have now closed, and voting for the candidates has officially opened. All project members are invited to cast there votes for the Military historian and Military newcomer of the year candidates before the elections close at 23:59 December 21st. For the coordinators,

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Merry Merry
To you and yours FWiW  Bzuk (talk) 14:33, 22 December 2014 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue CV, December 2014
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WikiCup 2015 launch newsletter
Round one of the 2015 WikiCup has begun! So far we've had around 80 signups, which close on February 5. If you have not already signed up and want to do so, then you can add your name here. There have been changes to to several of the points scores for various categories, and the addition of Peer Reviews for the first time. These will work in the same manner as Good Article Reviews, and all of the changes are summarised here.

Remember that only the top 64 scoring competitors will make it through to the second round, and one of the new changes this year is that all scores must be claimed within two weeks of an article's promotion or appearance, so don't forget to add them to your submissions pages! If you are concerned that your nomination will not receive the necessary reviews, and you hope to get it promoted before the end of the round, please list it on WikiCup/Reviews. However, please remember to continue to offer reviews at GAN, FAC and all the other pages that require them to prevent any backlogs which could otherwise be caused by the Cup. As ever, questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup and the judges are reachable on their talk pages. Good luck! , and

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The Bugle: Issue CVI, January 2015
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The Bugle: Issue CVII, February 2015
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Italian Infantry/Motorized Divisions in North Africa
Hi Jim, we spoke briefly about this last year. I have made requests to have the following articles moved 17th Motorised Division Pavia, 25th Motorised Division Bologna, and 27th Motorised Division Brescia. If you would like to comment, please see their talk pages.EnigmaMcmxc (talk) 16:17, 21 February 2015 (UTC)

WikiCup 2015 March newsletter
That's it, the first round is done, sign-ups are closed and we're into round 2. 64 competitors made it into this round, and are now broken into eight groups of eight. The top two of each group will go through to round 3, and then the top scoring 16 "wildcards" across all groups. Round 1 saw some interesting work on some very important articles, with the round leader owing most of his 622 points scored to a Featured Article on the 2001 film Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within which qualified for a times-two multiplier. This is a higher score than in previous years, as had 500 points in 2014 at the end of round 1, and our very own judge,  led round 1 with 601 points in 2013.

In addition to Freikorp's work, some other important articles and pictures were improved during round one, here's a snapshot of a few of them:
 * took Bumblebee, a level-4 vital article, to Good Article;
 * worked-up the Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 article, also to Good Article status;
 * developed an extremely timely article to Good Article, taking Magna Carta there some 800 years after it was first sealed;
 * And last but not least, worked up a number of Featured Pictures during round 1, including the 1948 one Deutsche Mark (pictured right), receiving the maximum bonus due to the number of Wikis that the related article appears in.

You may also wish to know that The Core Contest is running through the month of March. Head there for further details - they even have actual prizes!

If you are concerned that your nomination—whether it is at good article candidates, a featured process, or anywhere else—will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on WikiCup/Reviews. Questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup, and the judges are reachable on their talk pages or by email. Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. , and

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The Bugle: Issue CVIII, March 2015
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The Bugle: Issue CIX, April 2015
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Eugene Vaulot
Hey! I'd like to know where did you find the picture of Eugène Vaulot, a frenchman who died in Berlin at the very end of the war against the russians. It's kind of weird cause he seems to have a russian uniform whereas he was int the wehrmacht....Are you sure it is really Eugène on the pic ?

Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 176.179.109.79 (talk) 09:49, 2 May 2015 (UTC)

WikiCup 2015 May newsletter
The second round one has all wrapped up, and round three has now begun! Congratulations to the 34 contestants who have made it through, but well done and thank you to all contestants who took part in our second round. Leading the way overall was in Group B with a total of 777 points for a variety of contributions including Good Articles on Corona Borealis and Microscopium - both of which received the maximum bonus. Special credit must be given to a number of high importance articles improved during the second round.
 * was one of several users who worked on improving Ulysses S. Grant. Remember, you do not need to work on an article on your own - as long as each person has completed significant work on the article during 2015, multiple competitors can claim the same article.
 * took Dragonfly to Good Article for a 3x bonus - and if that wasn't enough, they also took Damselfly there as well for a 2x bonus.
 * worked up Alexander Hamilton to Good Article for the maximum bonus. Hamilton was one of the founding fathers of the United States and is a level 4 vital article.

The points varied across groups, with the lowest score required to gain automatic qualification was 68 in Group A - meanwhile the second place score in Group H was 404, which would have been high enough to win all but one of the other Groups! As well as the top two of each group automatically going through to the third round, a minimum score of 55 was required for a wildcard competitor to go through. We had a three-way tie at 55 points and all three have qualified for the next round, in the spirit of fairness. The third round ends on June 28, with the top two in each group progressing automatically while the remaining 16 highest scorers across all four groups go through as wildcards. Good luck to all competitors for the third round! , and  16:51, 4 May 2015 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue CX, May 2015
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The Bugle: Issue CXIII, August 2015
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