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Talk page protocol
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This is me making a comment. :Mm, interesting comment. This is me replying to your comment. ::You both raise good points, thanks for your comments, but have you considered what the Posse Commentatus people have to say on the matter? :::I read their stuff, but frankly it didn't strike me as particularly encyclopædic, so I didn't include it. Can we get any corroboration?

which results in the following display: This is me making a comment.


 * Mm, interesting comment. This is me replying to your comment.


 * You both raise good points, thanks for your comments, but have you considered what the Posse Commentatus people have to say on the matter?


 * I read their stuff, but frankly it didn't strike me as particularly encyclopædic, so I didn't include it. Can we get any corroboration?

If the discussion grows very long (see e.g. NHTSA's talk page), you can "reset" the indenting by commenting without any colon, so s/he who responds to you will add one colon, the next commentor will add two, etc. --Scheinwerfermann 16:09, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

Edit summary protocol
Greetings again, Jimad. A couple notes on edit summaries: There's no need to do the four tildes after your comments in an edit summary, because Wikipedia automatically indicates who has made every particular change to an article. The four tildes are only used when signing your comments in an article's talk page. Also, it's best to reserve strident comments in edit summaries (and everywhere else, for that matter) for those few situations in which they're actually called for. Your comment in NHTSA reads Sorry, but its not that if you import an ECE you will become a criminal, rather NHTSA denies you import license so you cannot import it in the 1st place. You're correct that "blocking" is a more accurate noun than "criminalizing", but there was no need for your initial Sorry, but. You're not in an argument with anyone over this word choice, but when you use argumentative language like this, you're likely to start needless fights. Occasionally you'll run into someone who's willfully not following Wikipedia policies, and persists in damaging compliant work you've done. In a case like that, sometimes a bit of a sterner tone is warranted, though edit wars are not allowed and generally it's best to go through proper resolution channels rather than engage in a debate via edit summaries. And, you probably won't encounter such a situation until you're a little farther along the wikipedia learning curve. It'd've been better in this particular case to summarize your edit as It's not that if you import an ECE vehicle you will become a criminal, rather NHTSA denies you import license so you cannot import it in the 1st place. --Scheinwerfermann 16:09, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

*tap tap tap* Hello? This thing on?
Jimad, it's good to see you heeding the advice being provided here to help you along the learning curve as a Wikipedia editor, but you're kinda being a little silent, eh? The same principles apply to communications here as in the real world; it's considered good form to respond to comments on your talk page, or at least acknowledge them. Best of all is to engage in dialogue. If you have questions or want something clarified, ask! --Scheinwerfermann 14:59, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

Assume good faith
Jimad, you recent edits at the the CAFE talk page says that my edits, "seemd intended to replace a discussion of liberal vs. conservative balanced references to the subject with a purely conservative position." The general rule of the wikipedia is to assume good faith, and I'd appreciate it if you focused on the content of the article in the talk page rather than the views of the editors, which are frankly irrelevant in a great page. Pdbailey 02:01, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

CAFE
Jimad, I know you are a strong proponent of CAFE...and that's a bit of a problem. Not because I'm some kind of CAFE opponent, but because as a core policy of Wikipedia, we strive to maintain the neutral point of view in articles here. Ideally, it should be impossible to discern the personal opinions and preferences of any particular editor by the content of his edits. Wikipedia is an encyclopædia, not a soapbox or a venue for press releases, so it's incumbent upon all of us to be mindful of our personal biases and points of view, and not let them creep into our edits. You've added a lot of high-quality references to this article, and that's a real help. But long pull quotes from cited sources that happen to agree with your own opinion, the use of verbs like "claim" rather than more neutral ones like "say", "assert", or "state", and other such tactics don't help the coöperative group effort to improve this (or any other) article to the maximum possible extent. We trust our readers to process the information we provide and come to a logical conclusion; advocacy for any particular conclusion or position is not in line with what Wikipedia is or how it works. Please keep your opinions and biases in mind when you edit. Thanks for being a coöperative Wikipedian. —Scheinwerfermann (talk) 22:05, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

Jimad, before you accuse someone of deleting text, it's a good idea to read the article carefully to make sure the text you have in mind is actually gone. If you'll take a look at CAFE, you'll see the "twice as high" text is safe and sound at the end of the very first paragraph, which has not been modified in quite some time — least of all by me. —Scheinwerfermann (talk) 22:52, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

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Talk:Corporate Average Fuel Economy
Hi there. Please try to remain civil when talking with other editors, especially when discussing what goes into an article - a talk page is for civilly discussing what will be put into the article, not for unnecessary arguments. As for the ref, please do not insert it into the article if it is not verifiable by anyone else. We cannot rely on your word and it is not about "how lazy Scheinwerfermann is". Thanks.  jj137  (talk)  18:49, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

Corporate Average Fuel Economy figure
Hey, why don't you just give me a ref for the new CAFE numbers and I will put them into the existing plot. If you really want to make the plot yourself, please include the properly deflated prices, since this is referenced in the text. PDBailey (talk) 18:07, 19 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Hey, I added a comment at Talk:Corporate_Average_Fuel_Economy basically asking you to give references. I think since this regards that page, it would be best to have the conversation there. PDBailey (talk) 19:02, 19 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Hi, File:CAFE_vs_Gas_Price_2008.png does not cite any sources, I can make one that does if you don't have time. PDBailey (talk) 12:44, 23 May 2009 (UTC)

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