User talk:Jimsmallman

List of people that follow a straight edge lifestyle
Hi Jim. Do you have a better reference that you are straight edge? For the article List of people that follow a straight edge lifestyle. Whilst self published sources, such as your homepage, can be used as references for non-controversial statements (such as that you are in fact straight edge) your homepage doesn't seem to back this statement up, and neither does your 'about' section. If you want to be able to provide a acceptable reference for the article I suggest you add a brief sentence regarding you being straight edge to your 'about' section, or, preferably, find a reliable source (such as a review of one of your gigs or an interview with you from a source that satisfies WP:RS) commenting on this fact. Established sources that are not published by the claimant are always considered more reliable; however, I believe your personal website will be acceptable if it clearly and directly states on it somewhere that you are straight edge. Freikorp (talk) 01:31, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

Hi there - thanks for getting in touch. I thought my own web page did cite my straight edge lifestyle, have now amended that (on the about page) and re-edited the posting to make sure it points to the correct page. Many thanks for pointing it out!

Hi - want tips on how to keep the neutral point of view on my own entry - Jim Smallman. I didn't list it myself to begin with and made some edits to the initial listing, and have made sure all points are referenced. Unlike my own website, I've tried to keep hyperbole to the minimum - so not mentioning too many review quotes etc to make it look like an advert. Would like the warning at the top of the page to be removed, willing to do whatever neccessary to get it taken down and ensure the article is as accurate and neutral as can be. I am at least honest and editing my own page, rather than getting an agent or underling to do it! Thanks for your help. Jimsmallman (talk) 13:32, 11 June 2013 (UTC)


 * OK, I reviewed the entire article and removed the tag. Things to note:


 * Have a quick read of Conflict of interest, Autobiography, WP:SELFPUB and WP:PROMO. Editing an article about yourself is allowed, but discouraged. If you wish to continue editing the article about yourself (other than to correct errors), I strongly suggest you also edit other articles, especially ones where you are not affiliated with the subject, so you cannot be accused of being here purely to promote yourself, or of being a single-purpose account.


 * As per the 'Conflict of Interest' link above, whilst you can site your own sources (such as your website), you can do so only "if it is relevant, conforms to the content policies, including WP:SELFPUB, and is not excessive". Currently 4 of the 9 references in the article come from your own sources, if the ratio goes above 50% I would consider that excessive, but other editors may consider it excessive already. Non-primary references are always preferred. I have removed the statement that you received favourable reviews which cited your collection of favourable press comments on your website for this reason. Cite the source directly (Add a link to the actual article review, you can cite offline sources such as a newspaper article, just list the name of the newspaper, the date and the page number the review appears on). Stating you received favourable reviews by offering a collection of comments hosted on your official website is a bit biased, as you are probably not going to add any negative reviews to your list. Also be aware that as wikipedia is a neutral encyclopaedia, if somebody does find a negative review of you and adds it to the article there's not much you can do about it.


 * I have removed the references to your twitter account as the reference just linked to your general account, rather that the individual tweet that would have backed up the claim. If you wish to use twitter as a reference please link to the specific tweet, not your general account. Your tweets are, of course, self-published sources, so keep in mind my comments above.


 * Some of the wording in the article was a little promotional (but certainly not excessively, i've seen much, much worse). Have a read of Manual of Style/Words to watch.


 * Hope this helps. Freikorp (talk) 08:11, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

Hi - thank you so much for taking the time to help me with this. I will of course, as a keen Wikipedia user, try to edit any other, non-related articles that I can in the future. Really appreciate you helping with this, it's excellent of you to do so.Jimsmallman (talk) 10:50, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

You're welcome :) Freikorp (talk) 10:54, 12 June 2013 (UTC)