User talk:Jisbell2

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Welcome!
Hello, Jisbell2, and welcome to Wikipedia! My name is Shalor and I work with the Wiki Education Foundation; I help support students who are editing as part of a class assignment.

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Cat senses
Remember to leave an edit summary. Dr Aaij (talk) 17:25, 29 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Now this was a useful edit., Jisbell is a new editor who ran into cat whiskers and will work on improving the article for a freshman composition class. Meow! Dr Aaij (talk) 17:30, 29 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Found the kitty show addition. Dr Aaij (talk) 17:32, 29 August 2018 (UTC)

Ordeman-Shaw House
Hi! I really love the topic you chose - historic buildings have quite a few interesting stories to tell of the people who lived and walked within their walls. One thing that I'd recommend, however, is that you expand this to include the entire Ordeman-Shaw Historic District, since that district doesn't have an article at present and to show notability for a specific house you'd have to show where the individual home has received a great deal of coverage. You can give this specific house a substantial subsection in the article about the district as a whole.

Something to look into as well - you may want to go and take pictures of some of the homes in the district for the article. I know that Commons has a few, but there are bound to be other houses that could be photographed. Shalor (Wiki Ed) (talk) 16:07, 27 September 2018 (UTC)

New article
Hi! I wanted to give you a few notes:

I fixed the header for the plot section and added a category.

Since it looks like you're creating this from scratch, I've moved this to your userspace for the time being. The reason for this is that this will give you more time to work on the article, whereas when you create a new article live there's a lot more urgency to add sourcing and content immediately. You can find the article at User:Jisbell2/The Man Who Came Uptown. I know that you'd marked it as being in progress, however it looks like your last edit was a few hours ago, so I moved it just in case. Left incomplete there's a risk of someone either deleting the article or making extensive contributions. I can move it back if this bothers you, but those two possibilities will still be a concern. Shalor (Wiki Ed) (talk) 19:36, 8 October 2018 (UTC)

Ways to improve The Man Who Came Uptown
Hi, I'm Bennv3771. Jisbell2, thanks for creating The Man Who Came Uptown!

I've just tagged the page, using our page curation tools, as having some issues to fix. Article is entirely a plot summary. You can consider expanding the article with sections on publication history, themes, critical reception etc. Do also try citing more sources instead of relying on just one.

The tags can be removed by you or another editor once the issues they mention are addressed. If you have questions, you can leave a comment on my talk page. Or, for more editing help, talk to the volunteers at the Teahouse.

Bennv3771 (talk) 06:46, 9 October 2018 (UTC)

Points
Right now the grade is still in the balance, oddly enough--DYK, Evaluation (see note I made in your sandbox), Vandalism... Dr Aaij (talk) 17:30, 30 November 2018 (UTC)

DYK
Hi, I wanted to give you a few notes.


 * Make sure that the sourcing explicitly backs up the claims made in the article. If the sourcing doesn't back up the claim, then the claim shouldn't be in the article. I had to replace a few of your sourcing because of this.
 * Also, keep in mind that not all sourcing is usable. For example, you can use Goodreads to back up the Goodreads Choice Award, however it can't be used for other information because its content can be edited pretty easily by random people. What you need are things like reviews and other coverage of the book. You should also avoid anything that is self-published, is often criticized as a source, or where it's unclear as to whether or not the site has a good editorial oversight. You should also avoid student run newspapers, as these are traditionally not seen as reliable sources on Wikipedia unless they're very well known as a reliable source (ie, multiple awards, repeatedly cited as a reliable source in academic and scholarly sources, etc).
 * In the reception section you mentioned the controversy surrounding instapoetry, however the problem here is that the controversy isn't about this specific book and in order to connect it to the book in specific you'd need to have reviews and coverage that focuses on the controversy and this book. The Bustle source mentions this, but it looks like the author was commenting on this controversy in general, as opposed to people specifically saying that her book doesn't count as "real poetry". One of the sources doesn't mention the book at all. Other sources do, but wouldn't be seen as reliable per Wikipedia's guidelines. In specific, one is a student led newspaper and Odyssey is problematic because it looks like anyone can submit content and it's unclear what type of editorial oversight and verification processes they have, if any, and how well those processes work.
 * This needs to be gone over for grammar and spelling typos and errors.

With sourcing, you need things like this. Bustle is usable, but it's also not always seen as the strongest source on Wikipedia and I've run into at least one editor who doesn't view it as usable. Something like this is a bit borderline but may be usable. I'm a little concerned that there isn't really enough out there for the book. The award will give a little notability, but not enough to really establish notability on its own. My recommendation would be to create a section about the series and a sub-section under that for each book. The author's page is pretty slim, so this wouldn't stretch the page out badly.

I'm going to tag your instructor for his input. Shalor (Wiki Ed) (talk) 20:13, 10 December 2018 (UTC)
 * This is a little general as far as guides about book articles go, but it will cover what you need to have in the article and what to look for. Shalor (Wiki Ed) (talk) 20:38, 10 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Jisbell2, there's some notes at the DYK nomination as well. Thank you Shalor! Dr Aaij (talk) 22:02, 10 December 2018 (UTC)

DYK for The Princess Saves Herself in This One
— Maile (talk) 12:02, 6 March 2019 (UTC)