User talk:Jistis

Single-purpose account
Hi Jistis, I just glanced over your edits some more, and it appears to me that an extremely high number of your edits revolve around IJDH topics, often with a promotional tone. Even when writing about people more tangentially linked to IJDH, you often add IJDH links to articles, as here, or here,, or add references to IJDH in the text of their articles.

The edits of yours that I've looked at clearly are intended to support BAI or IJDH's side in any given case--(for example,, , )--while you never appear to have added counterarguments or "negative" information about these cases. It therefore appears to me that you're a single-purpose account for the specific purpose of promoting these groups. Given your self-identification as a human rights lawyer specializing in Haiti, I urge that you review our guidelines on conflict of interest. -- Khazar2 (talk) 14:23, 18 October 2012 (UTC)


 * Thanks Khazar2. It had been a while since I had looked at the guidelines, and I agree with you that I should have included more information in my COI disclosure, which I have done. You are right that most of my edits involve IJDH/BAI cases. That is for two reasons. First, that is the material I know well enough to add responsible edits. Second, the human rights crises that Haiti keeps generating leave me with limited time for Wikipedia efforts, so I focus on areas where my input can provide balance to existing texts, as with my comments regarding the Pulitzer Center opinion in Mario Joseph's page. I do try to be careful about including neutral sources for my edits, and to ensure that the information itself is highly credible. That being said, I agree with you that I can do better about including counterarguments, and will endeavor to do so.


 * I do include a lot of links to IJDH's website, but that is because IJDH invests a lot of effort in including a broad array of information about human rights in Haiti on its site, including information from organizations that do not collaborate with IJDH, or are critical of IJDH's work. The Yvon Neptune page that you mentioned is a good example. IJDH assembled a lot of information about Yvon Neptune's case, some it our materials (we were his lawyers, so we have a lot), but more of it from other sources. If there was a similar collection of information elsewhere on the web, I would have linked to it, but there is not. Where possible I try to link to another source on Wikipedia, but often (as with news articles) the original link is ephemeral.


 * I do not believe that these links are really promotional in the sense that they drive traffic to IJDH's website from people who later become involved in the advocacy or otherwise supportive of the organization. Obviously having one Wikipedia link to IJDH helps with SEO, but it is my understanding that the subsequent links do not (I could be wrong). I haven't looked at the analytics of Wikipedia links- how long people who come to our site from Wikipedia stay on our website stay on the site, whether they click more links sign up for our newsletter, etc. But in general the vast majority of people who click into our site look at a single article and move on, and it is very rare that anyone comes onto the site from an informational article and signs up for our mailing list. We wish it were otherwise, but we are happy to be a source of information for people even if they don't get involved in future work.
 * Thanks, very sincerely, for being so upfront and understanding. The way I'd suggest you proceed in the future would be to post a note to an article's talk page when a link to IJDH seems appropriate--I agree that in many cases it will be, particularly if IJDH is representing one party in a dispute. Then an uninvolved editor can make the call on whether and how to include the information. And while we haven't agreed on everything in the form of how info should be added to Mario Joseph, for example, the sources you've provided have made it a better article--covering the cholera lawsuit is great. So I don't mean to discourage you from editing generally; I just ask that you doublecheck these additions on organizations you're affiliated with with other editors. You can always ask at an article's talk page, WP:WikiProject Haiti, or WP:COIN when you need another pair of eyes.
 * And let me add again that I'm a big admirer of your organization's work. I know it may seem on your end like I've been giving your organization a hard time today, but really the opposite is true; I want to make sure we get high-quality articles on BAI and IJDH and related topics because I think that it's such an important topic. So feel free to ping me at any point in the future if I can lend a hand. All the best, Khazar2 (talk) 15:12, 18 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Digging into these articles more, I notice that a lot of the articles related to IJDH, such as Raboteau Massacre, are written in what seems to me a clearly one-sided way, in large part by accounts similar to your own: single-purpose accounts that edit only IJDH-related articles in a way that clearly supports and praises IJDH, its members, and its positions on cases. (One obvious example: User:Kirby.ijdh). I don't know if IJDH has a standing policy to edit Wikipedia content related to its cases, or if this is all just an unfortunate coincidence. If the former is the case, however, I'd appreciate it if you could make your colleagues aware of our policies on both neutrality and COI. Thanks for your help, -- Khazar2 (talk) 17:19, 18 October 2012 (UTC)

WikiProject Haiti
Hi Jistis, I noticed your interests in Haiti and thought I'd extend the invite to a completely revamped WikiProject Haiti. Cheers! Savvyjack23 (talk) 05:28, 23 April 2015 (UTC)



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