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Beyoncé Knowles discography
Hi. I have kept the expanded intro that you placed here, but reverted changes to the tables. This is a heavy-traffic high-profile artist so please discuss on the talk page first before any major overhauls. The method you're implementing ("align="center" on every line) adds a lot of extra code to the article and greatly expands the size of the page, which is why that formatting was removed a while back. - eo (talk) 14:36, 26 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Sure. In discographies for artists who have a lot of singles (as Beyoncé does) it works out better to center the entire table (and left-align the song titles) rather than the other way around.  For example:


 *  {|class="wikitable" ← if you leave it this way, the entire table will automatically be left-aligned. Therefore, each and every chart position needs "align=center" through the entire thing.  However, if you do this instead:
 *  {|class="wikitable" style=text-align:center; ← now, the entire table is center-aligned. You will need to add "align=left" in front of all the song titles.
 * There is also no need for things like  scope="col" , etc.
 * For an artist like Beyoncé, there are far fewer lines with song titles than lines with chart positions (each song title alone has 10 lines of chart positions attached to it). So by forcing the song titles to the left, you use a lot less code than you would if you had to force-center every chart position.  This greatly reduces the overall size of the article (I'm sure you've seen pages that have the warning at the top about the size, when you edit).  Kelly Rowland's discography may still have things set up the old way, but it would not hurt to change that around.  It just makes more sense.  The less characters used on a page, the less code used, the smaller the article, the quicker the article will load in readers' browsers, the easier it is to manage.  And the best part is, the article looks exactly the same either way... so you may as well use the formatting that uses less characters and code. - eo (talk) 20:16, 26 September 2010 (UTC)

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Thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia. Before saving your changes to an article, please provide an edit summary, which you forgot to do before saving your recent edit to Beyoncé Knowles discography. Doing so helps everyone to understand the intention of your edit (and prevents legitimate edits from being mistaken for vandalism). It is also helpful to users reading the edit history of the page. Thank you. Yvesnimmo (talk) 02:26, 2 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Why aren't you using this? In your past five hundred edits, there are less than fifteen usages, aside from the automatically generated one. Yvesnimmo (talk) 02:26, 2 October 2010 (UTC)

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 * Hi there. Please, please use the preview button to avoid mistakes. Thanks! Yvesnimmo (talk) 05:34, 5 October 2010 (UTC)
 * No problem! Yvesnimmo (talk) 05:38, 5 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Please please please use the preview button. Thanks. Yves (talk) 06:36, 9 October 2010 (UTC)
 * And leave edit summaries so people know what you are doing. Otherwise it is very difficult to navigate the thick swamp that is the page history. Yves (talk) 06:38, 9 October 2010 (UTC)

Beyonce Discography
Hi, i hope you are doing very well. I am currently having exams. Yet, i managed to find some time and greatly improved the Discography of Beyonce article. I just want you to see it (Nothing to do about nominating it for GA right now) and tell me what you think about it???????? Jivesh boodhun (talk) 06:40, 9 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Perhaps the next week, for now I'm a little busy with 1st Academy Awards. But one thing, discographies go through FL per WP:GA?. Tb hotch Ta lk C. 06:51, 9 October 2010 (UTC)
 * I've just started the second year of university. So I am also quite busy, however I will point out that we don't take discographies through GA... they go through WP:FL instead. I very recently made Kelly Rowland discography an FL. I suggest take ideas from Kelly Rowland's discog. Also ensure that the discography follows the new format at WP:DISCOGSTYLE otherwise it will fail! --  Lil_℧niquℇ №1 &#124;  talk2me  15:02, 9 October 2010 (UTC)

Beyoncé
No, I do not think this is the right time. Those albums all have confirmed release dates and confirmed titles, while we do not know this information for this album. Reading WP:NALBUMS, maybe when more details are released, it will be more appropriate. Yves (talk) 05:42, 11 October 2010 (UTC)
 * No problem! :) Yves (talk) 05:45, 11 October 2010 (UTC)

Beyonce
Hey im replying to you for wat you put on my talk page I would love to help you with Beyonce articles, I am from Chicago and anything You need help with i'll help you out. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Teman13 (talk • contribs) 18:04, 12 October 2010 (UTC)

Comments
Hi! You asked me a weeks ago to review Beyoncé's discography. I reviewed it (not sources only the info) and here are some issues.

I Am... World Tour
Hi, I think the standard edition tracklisting is not needed on the article. It's already been mentioned in the DVD tracklisting. I own a copy of the standard edition and "Forever Young" does not appear to be on the DVD. ozurbanmusic (talk) 06:46, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

Yeah I've noticed you've added a whole heap of information on the article and I applaud you for that. But maybe the Walmart website got it wrong? I don't think Beyonce performed "Forever Young" at all of the concerts for her I Am... Tour. Her official website has the tracklisting for both the CD and DVD and it doesn't have "Forever Young". http://www.beyonceonline.com/au/node/84790 Yes it would be great to work together! Thanks. ozurbanmusic (talk) 11:37, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

Hey this is the link to Beyonce's official website - http://www.beyonceonline.com/au/node/84790 and it has the official tracklisting for the I Am... World Tour DVD. So does that mean the standard edition section can be removed now? because "Forever Young" is not there. ozurbanmusic (talk) 21:43, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

Hi Jivesh, thanks for inviting me to join in on the discussions. Sorry I can't right now because I am busy at the moment doing research on two articles that need fixing. But it looks like you've got a lot of backup there. Hope it all works out! ozurbanmusic (talk) 11:53, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

Radio / Beyoncé
First of all I have issues with using a cover sourced from chart websites. The reason is looking at this listing for Fight for This Love. They claim all three covers to be official yet only the third one is actually official. Since a cover was not released officially on her website etc. it begs the question who made the cover official? Additionally a search of iTunes shows that song was never actually released. It was just used during commercials therefore there is no support or evidence that the cover is official.

In fact the song is not even a promotional single. Its just a song that was used in a commercial and thus charted. A song only becomes a single when it is pushed and promoted as one. Finally you went ahead and undid my edit which removed unsourced genres... why? All information on wikipedia needs to be reliably sourced. --  Lil_℧niquℇ №1 &#124;  talk2me  11:34, 2 December 2010 (UTC)


 * No problem. I've cleaned it up a bit too... it was only used to promote one radio station. etc. See what you think...? You could try and make it a GA if you want? It doesn't need much work.... just copy editing, a music sample and then just a more informative composition section. See Fight for This Love (you can use Musicnotes.com to read the chord progression). --  Lil_℧niquℇ №1 &#124;  talk2me  11:48, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
 * No the message is simply telling you the file will be deleted if its not used soon. Its an automated response. Not approval for use on wikipedia. As i've said look at it logically... the song wasn't actually released. --  Lil_℧niquℇ №1 &#124;  talk2me  14:16, 4 December 2010 (UTC)

Radio by beyonce
Can yopu please upload a 30 second music sample of "Radio"? Please, i need your help. Jivesh boodhun (talk) 18:05, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
 * So sorry, but that won't be possible right now. My computer crashed the other day (with all my pictures and all my music&mdash; luckily, I still have my songs on my iTouch), and I haven't gotten around to buy a new computer as yet. I'm borrowing my Dad's computer whenever I'm on here. Oran e   (talk)  22:14, 3 December 2010 (UTC)

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RE: I Am...Sasha Fierce
It's quite all right. Don't sweat it. Dan56 (talk) 18:21, 4 December 2010 (UTC)

RE:
Sure! I'll help you fix it up for GA status. And yes, although it is a double album some parts are a bit extensive. I'll try to start later today! Candy o32  12:46, 5 December 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm kind of busier than I thought, so I may not be able to help you until later on in the week, if that's ok. Also, I echo Legolas' sentiments about the Beyonce discog. If you could wait a little longer also, I could help you on that. Candy  o32  20:12, 5 December 2010 (UTC)

Beyonce discography
Omg what did you do? Beyonce discography is supposed to be nominated for Featured list, not Featured article. Withdraw immediately. — Legolas ( talk 2 me ) 14:18, 5 December 2010 (UTC)
 * And I would recommend not even trying to nominate it now. It will be failed immediately. There are such outstanding issues and discrepancies in the article that I dont know where to start. I donot want to de-motivate you, but if you don't want it to quick fail, then please dont nominate now. — Legolas ( talk 2 me ) 14:24, 5 December 2010 (UTC)

I Am World Tour review
Hi there, I was wandering if reviews from overseas count in the critical reception on the I Am World Tour article? if so, heres one from New Zealand - http://www.nzherald.co.nz/music/news/article.cfm?c_id=264&objectid=10692473 ozurbanmusic (talk) 06:01, 6 December 2010 (UTC)

Thanks! I'll add it. ozurbanmusic (talk) 06:08, 6 December 2010 (UTC)

Hey Jivesh. Yes I am fine. But good question. So my guess is that the gold cert it received doesn't mean how much was sold. Maybe Sony shipped 35,000 copies. And Shipped is different to sold. The gold cert might not mean anything to Beyonce at the moment. ozurbanmusic (talk) 05:56, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

haha thanks. oops I meant Sony shipped 7500 copies. Sorry I got mixed up with the singles gold cert amount which is 35,000. lol


 * You might wanna add this review to the article from Seattle Post-Intelligencer. ozurbanmusic (talk) 23:54, 13 December 2010 (UTC)

Lol yes i forgive you. Ok cool! I am busy at the moment too working on Keri Hilson articles. Are you are a fan of Keri Hilson? Lol ozurbanmusic (talk) 14:04, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

Radio and Ave Maria
Hey I've noticed in the Beyonce discography Radio and Ave Maria are listed in the promotional and soundtrack section. Shouldn't there be a section for 'Other charted songs'? I thought promotional singles get a music video. Did Ave Maria and Radio get music videos? ozurbanmusic (talk) 06:40, 6 December 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for that! I think Dangerously in Love 2 needs to be moved there too. It wasn't released as a single either. ozurbanmusic (talk) 06:53, 6 December 2010 (UTC)

Oops my bad. lol Aw thanks! Yeah it seems like it is. Debuted at number six on the DVD charts and went gold. ozurbanmusic (talk) 07:03, 6 December 2010 (UTC)

Beyoncé discography
Its easy. Just add to the talkpage, and later click the red initiate the nomination. After the click, you should give a short reason why you are nominating it for FLC. Then go to WP:FLC and edit "Nominations"; then add above the lastest nomination (Santana discography) and that's all. Good look. Tbh®tch Talk © Happy Holidays 18:34, 6 December 2010 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Radio (Beyoncé Knowles song)
The article Radio (Beyonce Knowles song) you nominated as a good article has been placed on hold. The article is close to meeting the good article criteria, but there are some minor changes or clarifications needed to be addressed. If these are fixed within seven days, the article will pass, otherwise it will fail. See Talk:Radio (Beyoncé Knowles song) for things which need to be addressed. No vice 7 Talk  05:42, 7 December 2010 (UTC)


 * Jivesh, also change all Beyonce (except quoted ones) to Knowles. No vice 7  Talk  06:59, 7 December 2010 (UTC)


 * According to Wikipedia conventions, it is preferred to use people's second name in the context rather than their first name. Beyonce's full name is Beyonce Knowles. So, Knowles should be used in the article (not title or infobox). Hope it's clear. No vice 7  Talk  07:14, 7 December 2010 (UTC)


 * You're welcome :) No vice 7  Talk  07:16, 7 December 2010 (UTC)


 * Also, you may want to correct the disambiguation links to Valentine and Richard Butler. Correct the writers and producers names. That's all. I will be passing it. No vice 7  Talk  07:19, 7 December 2010 (UTC)


 * Congratulations! The article has passed! No vice 7  Talk  07:41, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

RE:
Well the discog is not that bad, but considering FL standards, it would get terrorized at the nomination. The lead needs a good, thorough rewrite, and some refs need cleaning up, among other stuff. I see you want to revamp "Ego" also. I could collaborate with you on that too. So which would you like to begin first, I Am...Sasha Fierce, Beyonce discography, or Ego? I also was planning on doing "Diva" in the future too, if you were going to do that one also. Candy o32  21:01, 7 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Okay, Ego and Diva can hold of to next week. I'll begin fixing the album article and tell you when I'm done. Candy  o32  13:42, 8 December 2010 (UTC)