User talk:Jj1973

Moore of Mandy
I dont want to come off as a cunt. But your site has yet to be validated as official. Futhermore if you desire us not to link you that is fine since you are not cosidered a reliable source by wikipedia. The images of Moore are not copywritten by you so that is also not a worry. You can't throw your weight around since you are not the owner of the images, music, news, or information involving Mandy Moore or anyone else for that manner. Parys 04:40, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

First off, you do not have knowledge of the officiality of my site to any regard. Secondly, I ASKED for a link on your site. Third, if you do not consider my site a reliable source for information, then why use my links from my pages, on your site, also the track listing, which was in fact OFFICIAL information that came DIRECTLY from the FIRM for MY SITE??? I cannot claim officiality of my site without permission from the Firm, without their knowledge or concent. THEREFORE, I have their knowledge, approval, and concent as the official FAN site. SO that would make ME a reliable source for information regardless of what YOU may think. If you cannot be considerate enough to add my link as an EXTERNAL link (which I do not think is too much to ask), then do not continue to use anything, whether it is news, photos, or content from my site. Although I may not own copyrights to some of the material on there, I have permission to use much of it. Such as the music, photos, etc. There are SOME things on that site that I CAN throw my weight around, and actually you cant throw your weight around on nothing since your site cannot claim any copyrights either. Since you rely on other sites for information. And I DO obtain OFFICIAL info that comes DIRECTLY from the FIRM which I HAVE permission and the right to have. UNLIKE you, that you use. So...If it is such a problem to link my website, as one of her official sources, then remove ALL LINKS from my site, including the track listing from Wild Hope, that you got from my page as well. ALSO, if people are not allowed to add information and links to pages on your site, then why make that an option for people to do?? Cut that option off so people are not allowed to add such features. Other than that, it is redundant. So you have NO CLUE about official sources yourself. If you did, you would KNOW my site was the approved official fansite by the Firm. I am aware of a fake official website out there, and my collaboration with Mandy Moore's label is in fact, authentic. And I do not recall anyone from your page, asking me for permission to put the Wild Hope track listing on your page. And in fact, it says on there, that it came from the official fansite. I do have the right, however, to ask you to remove that, as it was intented to be released on my fansite ONLY, and I DO have the RIGHT to say where it goes on the net.

THANK YOU
 * You and your site is not a reliable source until Mandy Moore's official site, myspace or The Firm site endourses you. WHich they have not. You can ask to remove the entire mandy moore page, but we wont do it. Now we can remove the link to your site with no problem. And the songs have been clear already most of which can be found on Mandy Moore's myspace. So to say the track listing came from your site is wrong. Parys 04:23, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

First of all, I do not recall being nasty when I asked for the link to remain on the site. I do not know why you felt the need to contact me in haste about it. Obviously, you have some kind of problem with my site in general. I have looked at other listings on here, and you have fan related sites listed in the external link categories all the time. I do not see what the problem is with my site being listed, especially when it was once listed before. I think it is the considerate thing to do, to add a quality fan related site, for visitors to use as a linkable refrence. As for officiality, regardless of what you think, my site IS approved by THE FIRM, and it does not have to show endorsement on their site, or her myspace page. Her official site at www.mandymoore.com has not been launched yet, when it is, the official fansite will be linked. I cannot, and will not claim officiality, unless I have the permission and approval to do so. In all reality, you actually do not have legal permission to post the stuff on your site that you have posted. But I have legal right and permission, to post up OFFICIAL information that comes DIRECTLY from The Firm. Which if you look at the site, how is it that I have her magazine schedule, official photos, AND the track listing with EACH description of the songs?? Do you see that info elsewhere??? Nope. So that would pretty much tell you that The Firm has approved my site as official, and uses it to release officially released information to the online public. And about the track listing, look at the Wild Hope portion of the Wikipedia page. It clearly states that the tracklisting came from her official fansite. Which is mooreofmandy.com.

Please do not confuse me with the fake site, as I know many have, at mandymooremusic.com as Mandy Moore has NO affiliation with them, and neither does The Firm. I would appreciate an external link, even if it was just a fan site. I do not see why that is such a problem. Regardless, my site is a reliable source for official news from The Firm, and even if the site was not an official source, the fansite is still releasing up to date, and accurate information. Which should be good enough, to be featured as an external link on the site anyway. Below is the track listing, that shows at the bottom, that my site was mentioned of where the source came from. So I am not wrong in that regard. And I have not been wrong this whole time, and I will be damned if I allow people to accuse me of being a liar about something they know NOTHING about. I even included the other missing writing credits of the songs, which ended up removed. If people are not allowed to add on information, why allow it to be edited????

"Extraordinary" (Mandy Moore, the Weepies) 2:58

"All Good Things" (Mandy Moore, the Weepies)

"Slummin' In Paradise"

"Most of Me" (Mandy Moore, Lori McKenna)

"Looking Forward to Looking Back" (Mandy Moore, the Weepies)

"Few Days Down"

"Nothing That You Are" 4:28

"Wild Hope" (Mandy Moore, the Weepies)

"Latest Mistake"

"Can't You Just Adore Her?" (Mandy Moore, Lori McKenna)

"Ladies Choice" (Mandy Moore, Rachael Yamagata)

"Gardenia" (Mandy Moore, Chantal Kreviazuk)

This is the final tracklist according to a song-by-song review written by Mandy herself which was published on her official fansite

Jj1973 04:59, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
 * That's all fine and dandy but do you have a link, a source supporting your claim?Parys 14:06, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

Here is the page that has the track listing, where it was mentioned that it was taken from her official fansite.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wild_Hope

What verification do you need that shows that my fansite has been approved?? I cannot verify when her official website will be launched on the net. As they are working on completion.I do have written documentation from The Firm declaring my fansite as being official.

Jj1973 17:54, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
 * A link from The Firm or Moore's OFFICIAL something support your claimes. Parys 19:52, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

I do not have a link, I have it through email. And I do not want to post it on a place where EVERYONE will see it. And I want it to go to an admin of this website. You were not listed as an admin. If you can give me an admin, or the email to one, I will be more than glad to give the provided information. 21:53, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

You are asking me to support my claims, but yet, you cannot give me the information I am asking for. You are not an admin, or have not been listed as one. Since you have demanded I give you my proof, then I demand that you give me something to back your claims of who you are, and to give me some information on who to reach regarding having my link put up. I am not going to give out any proof of anything until I know who it is I am speaking with, what role they have in this site, etc. Jj1973 01:15, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

So you just proved to me that you cant back up YOUR claims. BTW, I suggest removing the release date of her new CD from your system since you stole that info from my site. If you cant link my site, then do not take news from it. And dont ask me for my sources when you cant back up yours. Jj1973 22:05, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

So.. you make your demands about proving, but for some reason, you have kept your mouth totally shut. Whats the matter??? Cat got your tongue?? You realized how wrong you are and cannot stand up about it??? I suggest you check her myspace for that proof you were looking for. And an apology for your wrongness would be nice, AND a link to my site. THANKS. Jj1973 18:56, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

Extraordinay
You are talking to the wrong person about that. Parys 04:19, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

Man, can you be nice about anything?? Sheesh, I was just making a response. For people who rely on other internet sources for information, you sure cannot act in a friendly manner to people. Jj1973 05:49, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
 * I was just telling you what it was. You shouldn't be telling me because i believe you. You should tell that to those who are trying to delete the article.b Parys 21:08, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

I am not totally used to this system and how to respond fully. 22:56, 21 February 2007 (UTC)