User talk:Jkidner

Thanks for your help. I definitely will need some more of this if you can (Jkidner (talk) 10:34, 3 July 2012 (UTC)) {{help me]] I'm still not sure about the coding for the references and I am not sure why the text under columns in my article is going off the page I can't seem to correct this and are the pink boxes for quotaitons only please?

Anna Frodesiak (talk) 09:40, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

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Hey, instead of leaving a message on Anna's talk page, which is where you'd contact her, you left it on her user page instead. I've moved your questions for you: You can now find them here. Good luck and welcome to Wikipedia! wctaiwan (talk) 14:44, 5 July 2012 (UTC)

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In response to your feedback
Hi Jkidner, and thank you for leaving feedback. To prevent vandalism, Wikipedia does not allow new users to upload images until their account is autoconfimed - this happens after four days and ten edits. There are, nevertheless, three ways you can upload your image. I hope this helps; if you have any questions please feel free to contact me on my talkpage or ask at the helpdesk.
 * You can make a request at this page to get your account confirmed early.
 * If the image is free from copyright or released under a CC-BY-SA license, you can upload it to Wikimedia Commons, a site for free images from which Wikipedia can draw content.
 * You can wait a few days and do a bit of editing, thus getting upload permissions automatically.

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File permission problem with File:Michael Kidner in his studio.jpg
Thanks for uploading File:Michael Kidner in his studio.jpg. I noticed that while you provided a valid copyright licensing tag, there is no proof that the creator of the file agreed to license it under the given license.

If you created this media entirely yourself but have previously published it elsewhere (especially online), please either
 * make a note permitting reuse under the CC-BY-SA or another acceptable free license (see this list) at the site of the original publication; or
 * Send an email from an address associated with the original publication to , stating your ownership of the material and your intention to publish it under a free license. You can find a sample permission letter here. If you take this step, add OTRS pending to the file description page to prevent premature deletion.

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Jkidner (talk) 08:09, 18 July 2012 (UTC)]] hi incase anyone is watching this its just to say that I'm trying to forward a permission email relating to copywright to the address Stefan2 gave me but it says that it is undeliverable I would be grateful for any advice on this pleaseJkidner (talk) 08:09, 18 July 2012 (UTC)]] undefined


 * Hi. Sure I can help, I think. I've just had a crash course on OTRS permission. You say undeliverable, do you mean the address permissions-commonswikimedia.org? (I'm on IRC, by the way) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 09:50, 18 July 2012 (UTC)
 * See also new comment on my talk page. Note that the address is with an @ sign, not without an @ sign. If the @ sign is missing, the e-mail will be undeliverable. --Stefan2 (talk) 10:01, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

Jkidner 10:52, 18 July 2012 (UTC)]]


 * Sorry. My mistake. Copy pasting the email address from http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/OTRS#Declaration_of_consent_for_all_enquiries causes the "@" to be replaced with a "-". I actually just sent this form to somebody giving them the incorrect address. Discovering this help request has been good luck. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 10:31, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

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thank you for your help everyone I think I managed to send the email anyway I sussed out that the @ was replaced by an a. However I still have another query. I now have all the images I need to upload to my article. I have sent the permission email, the next issue is can I upload images once permission has been given using the instructions given into the sandbox article or should I put the article onto the user page and then do it. Will it be straight forward to upload the images. I have changed the resolution. Will I be able to just upload the images or will I have to keep applying for permission for each image ? Sorry there are so many questions but I just want to try and cut to the chase.Jkidner (talk)

You need to apply for permission for each image seperately, to the best of my knowledge. Mdann52 (talk) 15:52, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

helpme can anyone tell me why the website references in my article don't show up as the actual websites please Jkidner (talk) 07:57, 20 July 2012 (UTC)]
 * I take it you are referring to the external links you placed in the external links section and not "references", which URLs placed in external links sections specifically are not interpreted as. The reason each of those is showing up with the text "A website you can describe by replacing this text" is because you didn't replace that text with a description of the website. The URL in the link tells the software where to link to. The text tells the software what to display for the link. The words in the sentence: "A website you can describe by replacing this text" are instructions: replace it with the display you want! To make it very clear provided a link to Google that looks like this: . The same link in the form Name provides the same link but displays as Name. If you wanted it to say "Google", you would change "Name" to "Google": Google Best regards--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 08:41, 20 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Hi Jkidner. I assume you're referring to the article in your sandbox? If so, you have two issue to cover. Firstly, you need to cite your references in the text. To do this, follow the following instructions:
 * Open the edit window for the page.
 * Scroll down to your list of references.
 * Copy (ctrl+C) the first reference (Collings Matthew Modern Painters Magazine "Patterns R Us" 2008).
 * Find the place in the text where the citation needs to go. For example, if the Collings reference shows that Kidner was born in Kettering in 1917, you'd want to place the citation immediately after that sentence.
 * In the place where you want the citation, paste the reference between tags, like this:
 * Do the same for the rest of the references.
 * Now go back to your References section. Remove all the text in it (the bullet-point list of refs) and replace it with the text . This is a template that works with the tags to automatically create a list of citation.
 * Save the page.
 * That sorts the citations. However, you also want your list of External links to look right - all you need to do here is replace the text "A website you can describe by replacing this text" in each one with the name of the site. Thus,  will create a link to the webpage that looks like this: Flowers Gallery. Don't forget to leave a space between the URL and the title you want to use, and don't forget to put   in front of the address.
 * Hope that helps, feel free to ask on my talkpage if you need more help. Yunshui 雲&zwj;水 08:49, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

(Jkidner (talk) 08:59, 20 July 2012 (UTC)) Thanks for these very comprehensive instructions. I will give it a go. I want to make this article go live quite soon. I need to put some images in it as well. Although I have been helped on this matter it would help me if you could give me more comprehensive instructions about how to do this. I have tried unsuccessfully to upload some files to wiki images using image wizard but have not been successful so far. I have a permission letter in terms of the copywright from the owner and I need to be talked through the process of this. Presumably I need to upload them before I can put them in my article.Jkidner (talk) 08:59, 20 July 2012 (UTC)]
 * I've replied about this on my talkpage, but I'll just reiterate here: the pictures must be freely licenced, that is, the copyright holder must have released them for reuse and alteration in any environment, and not just said, "yes, you can use these on Wikipedia". If that's the case, and you can prove it if required, you're good to go.
 * If you;re having problems with the upload wizard, please could you be specific about what's happening? It's a fairly simple step-by-step process, so I'm assuming you're encountering some sort of technical problem, but without more information it's hard to say what that might be. Yunshui 雲&zwj;水 13:09, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

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September 2012
Hello, I'm Darkwind. I noticed that you recently removed some content from File:Orange Blue and Green 1964.jpg without explaining why. In the future, it would be helpful to others if you described your changes to Wikipedia with an edit summary. If this was a mistake, don't worry, the removed content has been restored. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thanks, &mdash;Darkwind (talk) 14:05, 26 September 2012 (UTC)

Hello, Jkidner. We welcome your contributions to Wikipedia, but if you are affiliated with some of the people, places or things you have written about in the article Michael James Kidner RA, you may need to consider our guidance on conflicts of interest.

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For information on how to contribute to Wikipedia when you have a conflict of interest, please see our frequently asked questions for organizations. Thank you. JamesBWatson (talk) 14:27, 26 September 2012 (UTC)

Also, once a copyright owner has licensed material under a Creative Commons license, they have given permanent permission for use, and cannot revoke the licensing permission. JamesBWatson (talk) 14:33, 26 September 2012 (UTC) {{no one sent a permission letter for the share alike because we were not sure what category at the time to put it in. I have been in consultation with Flowers Gallery in London who represent Michael's work. I have been asked by our company to represent Michael on wikipedia. I believe I am stating what is accurate it is not a partial account of his life and work but is backed up by many different independent and reputable sources, if you look in the references and bibliography you will see this for yourself. I have been working on this article for sometime now and just want to put up the images. I have had plenty of obstacles and not much help on this front in regards to images. I think wikipedia should be helping new contrributors not going out of its way to obstruct the process. I beleive just by changing the legal status of the copyright I am fulfilling the wishes of the gallery and what is right for the artists work. I did not know Michael personally so I don't have an axe to grind. {{User:JKidner}} PS did you move alot of the content because it has all been rearranged. I think you should consult me before you do that


 * See WP:OWN. JamesBWatson (talk) 15:38, 26 September 2012 (UTC) By the way isnt WP;OWN]] an opaque acronym? I feel suitably dismissed good job!!
 * Sorry. I did not intend to be dismissive. Unlike many Wikipedians, I do not normally use such acronyms unless I know I am dealing with someone I am certain will know what it means. On this occasion, though, it was meant not so much as an acronym for you to read as a link to a page which would give you more information, and I thought readability of the link was not important. Even so, I suppose it would have been better to have written something like "See this page".
 * On a separate issue, I have replied to your message on my talk page. You can read my reply there, but the gist of it is that it wasn't me that changed the article around.
 * On yet another question, when you post a message to a talk page, you should finish it with four tildes, i.e ~. This will be automatically converted into a signature, complete with a link back to your talk page. JamesBWatson (talk) 19:35, 26 September 2012 (UTC)

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