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/* Warner Bros. Recreational Enterprises ‎ */
I don't really know how to write the messages, but anyways. Warner Bros. theme parks was a tag a came up with because I couldn't find the name of their official division name the way Disney has Walt Disney Parks and Resorts. On the Warner Bros. Recreational Enterprises page there are a couple of references that I did find that have the name specifically mentioned. I can't find an official Warner Brothers site for it unfortunately. But anyways since I created the tag "Warner Bros. theme parks" I figured it'd just be best to change them all to the proper name being "Warner Bros. Recreational Enterprises" If you could help me find more about the company division it would be appreciated. As of now the page has been nominated for deletion and I really don't want to see that happen.Chrisisreed (talk) 21:42, 10 August 2018 (UTC)


 * I don't know if this link is going to work, but here is an attempt. It's a forty minute recording of the conversation between myself and former Warner Bros. Recreational Enterprises President Nicholas Winslow. https://drive.google.com/file/d/1v72wab3BvftFixkk31w3cTw3k1ZMMbSM/view?usp=sharing Chrisisreed (talk) 05:47, 11 August 2018 (UTC)

Fury vs Red Force
What about Tower of Terror II, which is in the giga territory between Red Force and Superman EfK, and has been open for about 20 years now? That's where all this gets really weird. -- McDoob AU93  15:09, 26 September 2018 (UTC)


 * Thought I would chime in. Shuttle coasters have long been shunned from giga and strata categorizations, which only cover complete-circuit coasters. There are two sources cited on this at Roller coaster. Superman: Escape from Krypton and ToT2 are still included at List of roller coaster rankings, but it would be a stretch into OR territory to categorize either as a giga or strata. --GoneIn60 (talk) 17:46, 26 September 2018 (UTC)


 * Yes, it does get weird, which is why I hate the entire Mega, Hyper, Giga, Strata classification system that the enthusiast community has bought into. However, there is a listing of Gigas and Stratas on the Roller coaster web page and Red Force is currently listed as the tallest. I was just trying to keep everything consistent.— JlACEer ( talk ) 14:33, 30 September 2018 (UTC)


 * Thank you both for your edits to Fury 325 but I fear you will have a difficult time maintaining that page. Fanboys and unregistered IP editors will likely want to toss the term "giga" in the lead.— JlACEer ( talk ) 14:40, 30 September 2018 (UTC)


 * Yeah, I know we've been in several discussions over the years about these terms. Generally, I feel that it's OK to recognize giga or strata when referring to height classifications of any complete-circuit coaster. They should be used sparingly and carefully, however, so not to confuse a B&M Hyper model with the classification. I'm actually OK with it being in the Fury 325 lead if carefully worded, but obviously it has no place in the infobox where we usually see hyper getting incorrectly changed to giga. --GoneIn60 (talk) 12:31, 2 October 2018 (UTC)


 * Leviathan is an example of it being used properly, although the lead should probably be changed to emphasize that this is in fact a Hyper model from B&M. --GoneIn60 (talk) 12:35, 2 October 2018 (UTC)

Cedar Point does have 18 coasters
There website does confirm that there is indeed 18 coasters. DreamWarrior145 (talk) 20:13, 28 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Discuss it on Cedar Point's talk page Talk:Cedar Point, not on my personal page.— JlACEer ( talk ) 22:11, 28 November 2018 (UTC)

Steel Vengeance.
Hello. I just wanted to let you know that I am not affiliated in any way with the vandals who have been messing around with the Steel Vengeance page, ok? I'm trying to revert what is being vandalized, & it gets frustrating when you go back to check a page, only to see that it's been (immaturely) changed yet again. Just wondering why you added my name to that Check User page? Please let me know? I assure you, I am on the side of fostering a positive atmosphere on Wikipedia. SummeRStorM79 (talk) 18:33, 3 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Sorry, that was an error. Don't worry about it, the admins who check this will see that your edits are legitimate. I do recommend that you at least put something on your user page so it doesn't look like an account that was hastily created.— JlACEer ( talk ) 19:47, 3 December 2018 (UTC)

No problem. Thank you for the advice. Keep up the good work! :) SummeRStorM79 (talk) 20:36, 3 December 2018 (UTC)

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Looking for advice
Hey JlACEer, you're about the only active one left in the project I thought to ask. When you get a chance, have a look at User talk:Parsecboy. It's not so much about whether you agree with it, but I'm trying to determine the best way forward at this point. For wing coasters and possibly floorless coasters, the move I think makes sense overall. For dive coasters, I'm not so sure. Looking at that article, I'm not seeing similar types of coasters from other manufacturers. Makes rewriting the article a bit difficult, unlike what I started to do at wing coaster. Ideas or thoughts on how we should proceed at this point to make the move work? --GoneIn60 (talk) 18:10, 24 February 2020 (UTC)
 * I reverted Floorless and Dive mostly due to the fact that the moves not been discussed before taking action. I also left a message on Parsecboy's talk page. I suppose that also makes me guilty of WP:BOLD. I'm undecided on Wing Coaster, but leaning towards reverting that as well. Even though other manufacturers make this style of coaster, they each have a unique name for the model: Wing Rider, 4th Dimension, 4D Free Spin. And then, of course, we have Intamin who has a Wing Coaster model that is nothing like the B&M model.— JlACEer ( talk ) 01:46, 25 February 2020 (UTC)
 * I just replied there as well. I agree that a discussion is likely needed for the other two, and I get where you're coming from about wing coasters. My concern though is that there is limited coverage, barely enough to fill an article. Since it can fit together nicely after being rewritten/reorganized, it may be beneficial in the long run to have the article focus on the class as opposed to one manufacturer's specific model. Discussion should have still happened, however, and the work needed to modify the article should have happened around the same time. The horse shouldn't have followed the cart. --GoneIn60 (talk) 01:58, 25 February 2020 (UTC)

Hyper vs. Giga vs. Strata
While different manufacturers have different names, the categorization still stands as Hyper (200-299, Giga (300-399), Strata (400+). Millennium Force and Steel Dragon have always been considered gigacoasters, never hypercoasters.  Same thing with Kingda Ka and Top Thrill Dragster, always stratacoaster, never refered to as Gigacoasters.  I understand you apparently work for a trade journal in the amusement industry, so you should know these things.  Please ask any roller coaster enthusiast what they consider Fury 325, Orion, or Leviathan.  While they are considered a B&M Hyper Coaster model, all are considered B&M Gigacoasters within the community.  Please stop editing my edits without sourcing your information for undoing my revisions.  Thanks.,  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.100.98.116 (talk) 17:48, 8 April 2020 (UTC)


 * Enthusiast jargon is not encyclopedic. What I do know is that my fellow journalists and I all agree — and I know several; none of us use the term "Giga" coaster to refer to anything other than the two built by Intamin. This isn't my personal opinion or something I made up on my own. Is the industry standard. Now that may change over time and I have seen jargon infiltrate common usage, but as of now, Morgan and B&M do not make Giga coasters.— JlACEer ( talk ) 21:18, 8 April 2020 (UTC)


 * Yes, any time we're talking about the model, it should always be referred to as Hyper Coaster. No question. Now in running text if you are describing the ride as belonging to the classification giga or strata, then yes you can mention that and link it. The terms giga coaster and strata coaster have dedicated sections and are often used in reliable sources to describe the height class of these rides. However, they should NEVER be used in a way that would confuse them with the model Hyper Coaster. --GoneIn60 (talk) 23:56, 8 April 2020 (UTC)

My edits to Millennium Force
Thank you for pointing this out to me regarding my edits to Millennium Force! Now that I know, I'll never classify Intamin's Strata coasters as Giga coasters. 208.59.132.152 (talk) 18:40, 14 July 2020 (UTC)

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A discussion on the Six Flags talk page

 * I would like to invite you to take a look at the recent edits of the main Six Flags page, including the ones from Dyll222. To an prevent the event of a edit war, I made a discussion at the Talk:Six Flags page to which, the user continues to revert the edits without any comments to the talk page, to back up his claims. Thanks. --Jpp858 (talk) 04:57, 13 July 2020 (UTC)

Commas on dates
Thanks for letting me know that I need to put a comma only when the date is specified. 208.59.132.152 (talk) 18:39, 14 July 2020 (UTC)

Fury 325 trains
I wish to know what the source is, and why this particular coaster runs eight-car trains as opposed to seven or nine that we see on other B&M hypers, please? 208.59.132.152 (talk) 19:49, 14 July 2020 (UTC)

Isaacwshearer
Unfortunately, I'm not an expert in the roller coasters and amusement parks area, so I'm not the best equipped person to determine whether their work is salvageable or junk — given what I've already seen them do on articles related to Drag Race, I can't say your concerns surprise me much, but I'm not the best person to actually evaluate the roller coaster edits as I have almost no knowledge in that subject area at all. Could you maybe raise your concerns with Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Amusement Parks, and/or the Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents, so that somebody with more expertise can look into them? Thanks. Bearcat (talk) 18:55, 18 August 2020 (UTC)

AstroWorld
Hey, I think perhaps we got off on the wrong foot, and maybe I went about overhauling the article a bit too aggressively, but I really do mean well and I very much welcome your article improvements. I have no problem acknowledging you're much more familiar with the subject (and parks and rides in general) than myself, but I'm trying to improve the article's integrity using reputable sourcing. I understand sources are not always right, and I definitely invite you to identify problems and help fill in gaps. Good article status is my ultimate goal here (whether I or someone else submits the nomination), so I'm just trying to make the page as Wikipedia-compliant as possible. Anyways, just wanted to say, I mean well and hope we can help make a beautiful AstroWorld article together. Born and raised Houstonian here who spent many wonderful summer days at the park, so this is very nostalgic for me as well. Thanks again for your talk page contributions and article improvements. Happy editing! --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 15:39, 28 August 2020 (UTC)

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