User talk:Jlanglang

March 2012
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Sorry! I don't know how to do citations properly yet. Here are a couple of articles about the Red and Black that mention the cop thing but are about buying the building and developing a low income housing co-op upstairs.

http://blogtown.portlandmercury.com/BlogtownPDX/archives/2011/01/27/red-and-black-cafe-aims-for-takeover "Also of note: Look what photo Red and Black is sending out with the press releases! It's the Anarchist Press Conference band shot!"

http://www.wweek.com/portland/blog-26312-red_and_black_cafe_aims_to_buy_a_building%E2%80%94.html "...with the Red and Black’s anarchist reputation..."

This is about the anarchist symbolism of the name 'Red and Black.' http://www.anarchism.net/symbol_bf.htm: "Another symbol commonly used in certain parts of the anarchist movement, and bearing strong resemblance with the black flag, is the black-and-red flag. It is a construction by anarcho-syndicalists used for the first time in the anarchist movement during the Spanish Revolution and the Civil War. It was originally used by the CNT (Confederación Nacional del Trabajo) in Spain and is based upon the black flag of anarchism and the red flag of working class rebellion.   The red thus symbolizes the material equality or principle “from each according to his or her ability, to each according to his or her need” of communism, while the black is for anarchism and hence social freedom, the freedom of each individual to do as they please so long as their actions do not cause harm to others. The red-and-black is a symbol mainly of libertarian communism and anarcho-syndicalism, i.e. anarchism together with the labor movement. The red and black of the libertarian communist or anarcho-syndicalist flag are divided diagonally across the flag from the bottom left to upper right corners with the red labor movement flag on top of the black anarchist ditto. It is said to be divided diagonally to negate nationalism and symbolize a reaffirmation of internationalism."

There's also this: General piece about the unique management structure at the Red & Black http://kboo.fm/node/33058 Program about the monthly Music For the Working Class event held at the Red & Black. http://kboo.fm/node/32836

Listing the Red and Black Cafe as an anarchist organization is consistent with the current listing of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jura_Books, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhizome_Collective, or http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cincinnati_Time_Store. All of these spaces share these characteristics: run on anarchist principles but were also 'businesses' in the sense of having a physical location. Also Wikipedia's definition of 'organization' includes businesses of different types.