User talk:Jlwoodwa

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Bare references
Why are you adding this template to the articles where there is no such citation. If you continue, your edits would be problematic for you Egeymi (talk) 09:54, 5 June 2023 (UTC) WP:BURL also describes URLs that have additional information, but not enough to be a full citation, as still being "bare".
 * Are you talking about ? If so, notice that webarchive states: "This template is intended for external links. It is not designed for use as a citation template."
 * If you still disagree about the applicability of this template, then I think we should move this discussion to either Template talk:Bare URL inline or Wikipedia talk:Bare URLs. Regardless, I hope we can remain civil, and remember that both of us just want to improve Wikipedia. jlwoodwa (talk) 21:55, 5 June 2023 (UTC)

June 2023
Hello. Thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia. I noticed that your recent edit to Talk:Kim Kardashian/Archive 1 did not have an edit summary. You can use the edit summary field to explain your reasoning for an edit, or to provide a description of what the edit changes. Summaries save time for other editors and reduce the chances that your edit will be misunderstood. For some edits, an adequate summary may be quite brief.

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Please provide an edit summary for every edit you make. With a Wikipedia account you can give yourself a reminder to add an edit summary by setting, and then click the "Save" button. '' And don't mess with other's signatures in your copyediting unless something is specifically broken on the page. Thank you.'' Zinnober9 (talk) 21:14, 6 June 2023 (UTC)


 * I think I know what went wrong with the signatures – I must have pressed on an older revision of that page, prior to User:MalnadachBot's linting. Sorry, and I'll be more careful to avoid this mistake in the future. jlwoodwa (talk) 21:33, 6 June 2023 (UTC)

Historical top 20 companies by market capitalisation
Hello, I'm a student, who is currently writing a mathematics paper on the stock market, and finding an "optimal" strategy to beat the market consistently. To do this I need the exact same information that's in the Wikipedia article, "List of public corporations by market capitalization", but instead of the top 10 from every year, I need the top 20. I figured I'd ask you seen as you seem to have edited the article more than anyone else. Where would I find this information?

Thanks and sorry if I've done this wrong I don't know how Wikipedia really works. FinstaWiki (talk) 10:39, 9 June 2023 (UTC)

Gabrieli Pessanha moved to draftspace
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Tagging pages for speedy deletion
Hello, Jlwoodwa,

We have hundreds of thousands of old User pages and 99.99% of them are not eligible for CSD G13 deletion. Please review WP:G13 so you understand what features have to exist for a User or Draft page to be eligible for CSD G13.

We have bots that publish daily lists of pages that are G13 eligible so it is very unlikely that you will come across a page that the bots haven't listed. Actually, if you intend to do more deletion tagging, please become familiar with all criteria at WP:CSD. Some of them are a little tricky but they are all very specific and limited. Some of the criteria only cover main space pages while others only cover other pages like Redirects or Categories.

If you have any questions, please bring them to the Teahouse. Thank you for your contributions. Liz Read! Talk! 20:52, 10 June 2023 (UTC)


 * Also, you will find it very useful to start to use Twinkle to tag pages for deletion. It has a lot of very helpful features that allow you to report vandalism, tag an article for PROD, open an AFD discussion, post notices to User pages. Just be sure to set up your Twinkle Preferences to "Notify page creators" so that any time you tag a page for deletion, the page creator is notified. This is an important step in the deletion process. Try it out! Liz Read! Talk! 20:57, 10 June 2023 (UTC)
 * If someone makes a draft and then blanks it, doesn't it become "Userspace with no content", meaning db-blankdraft (WP:G13) would apply? Normally I would use db-blanked (WP:G7), but that doesn't apply to userspace. jlwoodwa (talk) 21:04, 10 June 2023 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:Piped link
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Moving pages
Hello, Jlwoodwa,

Please do not be moving other editor's User pages around. You made some pretty obvious mistakes. And you are still an inexperienced editors, learning about Wikipedia policies and practices. Above all, I'm sure you wouldn't appreciate another editor coming into your User space, messing around with your pages. This is true even if an editor isn't currently active. There are just so many other, more productive uses of your time, becoming a better editor, than going through other editors' User pages. Please stick with improving articles or learning about counter-vandalism. Thank you. Liz Read! Talk! 04:42, 15 June 2023 (UTC)


 * Also, you really need to use Twinkle to tag pages for deletion. Especialy for reasons like G13, page creators need to know that they have made a copyright violation. Half of your work as an editor is educating other editor's about Wikipedia policies. Posting takl pages notices is a way of a letting other editors know that they have created pages with problems. Please start leaving these notifications every time you tag a page for deletion, if you don't use Twinkle, which will do this for you, then leave a personal note that you've written or find an appropriate template. Thank you. Liz Read! Talk! 04:58, 15 June 2023 (UTC)

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Advice about redirect categorization and R cat shell on its own
Hey, I saw you added R cat shell on its own at Milton Sirotta, with the edit summary of "+rcat shell". Unless your goal was to leave it for another editor to categorize, this shouldn't be done; redirect pages don't need to be categorized or have R cat shell. In general, if you're going to add it to more articles, I would recommend actually trying to categorize the articles yourself first before placing it and leaving it in Category:Miscellaneous redirects, as most aren't that hard to categorize (WP:TMR is extremely helpful for this). If you don't think there's a suitable category, don't add the template. Cheers. Skarmory  (talk •   contribs)  07:23, 19 June 2023 (UTC)

"William Herbert Hobbs Distinguished Professor of Geography" listed at Redirects for discussion
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Changes to Erik Olssen article
Hi there, thanks for the changes you made to the Olssen article. I am confused as to why or how you linked all authors, so now many of them show as red in the references because they don't have wikipedia pages. Are you able to look at this please.Realitylink (talk) 01:11, 30 June 2023 (UTC)

County town
Just a question as I do not understand it. Why is the hatnote about American county seats inappropriate at County town? The Banner talk 09:40, 6 July 2023 (UTC)

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July 2023
You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war. This means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be although other editors disagree. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus, rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement.

Points to note: If you find yourself in an editing dispute, use the article's talk page to discuss controversial changes and work towards a version that represents consensus among editors. You can post a request for help at an appropriate noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, it may be appropriate to request temporary page protection. If you engage in an edit war, you may be blocked from editing. Hemiauchenia (talk) 22:20, 12 July 2023 (UTC)
 * 1) Edit warring is disruptive regardless of how many reverts you have made;
 * 2) Do not edit war even if you believe you are right.


 * I think it's rude for one of the participants in an edit war to uw-ew the other, but I'll assume you're just trying to start the conversation.
 * Preservation potential and preservation bias are significant, non-trivial, frequently-invoked and -discussed concepts relevant to several historical sciences, including historical geology, archaeology, and paleontology. Currently Preservation bias is a redirect to, but as the concept is used outside paleontology, there should properly be an article about the general concept rather than its application to paleontology alone. A discussion of preservation potential/bias could give context such as survival bias. Per WP:REDYES: Create red links whenever a non-existent article with more information would help a reader understand the content of the article in which the red link will appear. An easy example is a technical term that merits a treatment beyond its dictionary definition, to help support its role for its existing context. jlwoodwa (talk) 22:36, 12 July 2023 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:Initials
Template:Initials has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the entry on the Templates for discussion page. * Pppery * it has begun... 16:54, 16 July 2023 (UTC)

Please document new templates
When you create a new template like Nbhairsp, please add a documentation page with information about the template, including a Category for the template. Thanks. – Jonesey95 (talk) 19:04, 18 July 2023 (UTC)
 * And again, with They're. Please provide documentation and a category. – Jonesey95 (talk) 03:43, 7 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Also Redirect-for-distinguish. This is becoming somewhat disruptive. You are making work for other editors. – Jonesey95 (talk) 04:01, 7 August 2023 (UTC)
 * I've added documentation for they're. jlwoodwa (talk) 02:30, 8 August 2023 (UTC)
 * And now Weren't and more. Please stop this disruption. – Jonesey95 (talk) 12:51, 8 August 2023 (UTC)

Prods
Jlwoodwa, you're proding quite a lot of articles for obviously notable subjects that haven't/hadn't been sourced, e.g. Frederick Dunlap (American football). A more productive approach be to post of list of such BLP articles missing references at a relevant WikiProject, e.g. Wikipedia talk:WikiProject College football. I'd appreciate if you could slow down with the prods so we can catch up and get these articles sourced before any get deleted. Thanks, Jweiss11 (talk) 23:18, 21 July 2023 (UTC)


 * Please stop nominating articles for WP:BLPPROD in such quantity. Today alone, you have nominated around 400 articles (!!!). Many of these articles have had sources that were removed through vandalism, and some aren't even BLPs! Curbon7 (talk) 04:41, 22 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Wait, which weren't BLPs? I thought I'd been very careful to avoid articles about bands and such. jlwoodwa (talk) 04:43, 22 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Victor-François, 8th duc de Broglie is dead, for one. As I stated, many of these articles were also at one time sourced, but the sources were removed through vandalism. For clarification, the issue with nominating such a huge number of articles at once is that it becomes physically impossible to check each article for sources, undermining the entire point of BLPPROD. Curbon7 (talk) 04:47, 22 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Oh, I thought WP:BDP implied that people born after 1908 needed a reliable source to be established as exempt from WP:BLP (hence the existing tag) and by extension WP:BLPPROD. But [i]f there is any doubt to the applicability of this procedure to the article, then it is preferable to use another deletion process, so mea culpa.
 * As for the point of BLPPROD, I thought it was that it's better to have than a wholly unsourced article about a living person. jlwoodwa (talk) 04:55, 22 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Regarding your second paragraph, I'm not debating BLP and BLPPROD: that's all good and dandy, and we're on the same page. What I'm trying to say is that by nominating 400 articles at the same time, you are making the whole PROD system approach critical mass. Besides the fact that the articles are not deleted automatically by a robot (a physical admin has to check each article and click delete every time), a number of these article were at one point sourced (a small sample: Anosh Ekka, Quinten Burg, Spencer Collier, C. S. Puttaraju). Most of these nominations seems fine on paper, but it is simply the mass of them that is an issue. Curbon7 (talk) 05:05, 22 July 2023 (UTC)
 * I don't see how a slower tagging rate would help administrators (they can take their time if they want to!), but I agree that some of those BLPPRODs needed more examination before submitting. I'm done for now (emptied out the wholly unsourced articles from ), but if it comes up again I'll be slower/more careful. Thanks for clarifying. jlwoodwa (talk) 05:23, 22 July 2023 (UTC)
 * No worries; it was a little frustrating when I first saw it, but it's not a huge deal (for example, on Ashok Uike and Radek Vondráček, it was easy enough to revert back to the last clean version). Sorry if I came across a little rude at first! Curbon7 (talk) 05:29, 22 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Also, for what it's worth, I also plan to help find sources! I just thought it was best to tag first. jlwoodwa (talk) 05:26, 22 July 2023 (UTC)
 * I appreciate your enthusiasm but never again mass-nominate articles for any kind of deletion (CSD, PROD, AFD/RFD/TFD/MFD/etc.). It's easy with a click to tag an article for deletion but each one has to be reviewed by at least one administrator and often other editors review them as well. What can take you a few minutes to tag can take other editors hours to address. There are editors with years of experience who have done the same thing as you and have suffered a backlash for doing mass nominations so it is very murky waters for a new editor to plunge in and mass-nominate articles. Editors have gotten blocked from participating in AFDs for doing things like this
 * There is no hurry to delete these articles, most of them have been on the project for years, so please, don't nominate more than a dozen or so articles per day using any system of deletion we have. I don't say this as a policy guideline but as an administrator who spends most of my time on the project reviewing pages tagged for deletion. Luckily, many other editors have worked on these articles you have tagged and located sources but a week is not much time to deal with hundreds of articles. We still have 95 articles that due to be reviewed for PROD tomorrow. Please do not do this again. Thank you. Liz Read! Talk! 13:31, 27 July 2023 (UTC)

A few notes about WP:CITEVAR and other unnecessary or undesirable changes to articles
Amidst some helpful changes to H. G. Wells, your edits changed DMY dates to YMD dates, which is contrary to the Use dmy dates template that was in place, and contrary to WP:CITEVAR. The change also didn't modify the dates displayed in the article, so it was pointless. Equally pointless were your changes of page ranges in citation templates to use improper hyphens instead of the dashes that were present, per MOS:RANGE, and your lower-casing of template names. Please make changes that conform with WP:MOS and avoid making changes that are out of line with Wikipedia guidelines. There is a lot to learn here; please take some time to browse through MOS if you are going to make style-related changes. Happy editing! – Jonesey95 (talk) 05:14, 24 July 2023 (UTC)


 * Don't these guidelines mean that, if citations in an article use a mixture of DMY, MDY, and YMD, it's encouraged to make them consistent – and that this need not be the same as the body's date format? (I'm not arguing, but clarifying and hoping to clear up any misconceptions I have.) jlwoodwa (talk) 08:51, 25 July 2023 (UTC)
 * There is more to that guideline, about the first date format used in the history of the article and about gaining consensus on the article's talk page. In any event, take a look at the citation that includes "What the War of the Worlds means now" before and after your edit. You will see that your changes to the dates did not modify the rendering of the citation dates. I recommend learning more about how citation dates work and more about MOS:DATEUNIFY before you make mass edits like this. – Jonesey95 (talk) 14:14, 25 July 2023 (UTC)
 * There is more to that guideline, about the first date format used in the history of the article and about gaining consensus on the article's talk page. In any event, take a look at the citation that includes "What the War of the Worlds means now" before and after your edit. You will see that your changes to the dates did not modify the rendering of the citation dates. I recommend learning more about how citation dates work and more about MOS:DATEUNIFY before you make mass edits like this. – Jonesey95 (talk) 14:14, 25 July 2023 (UTC)

List of skeletal muscles of the human body - Historical perspectives and Links
Mr. Jlwoodwa  would you elaborate why you find that the timeframe in which the observation of the muslces are irrelevant to the article? and why it is irrelevent for people to meet the concept: that what muscles we have have changed over time and will change over time, in a list of human muscles?

As well as why a

List of distinct cell types in the adult human body(as muscles are made from Cells)
 * List of organs of the human body (as muscles are an organ)


 * List of human microbiota(as your microbiome effect is believed to affect muscle growth https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6933299/)

Will likely not be of relevance to people looking at a list of muscles in the human body? Claes Lindhardt (talk) 21:51, 29 July 2023 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:IPAb
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Messing with other editor's posts
...as you did with mine here is a breach of WP:TPO. Don't do it. I see you messed with a number of posts on that noticeboard not just mine and an editor has reverted you on all of them. If you do it again it will be a fast way to get blocked. DeCausa (talk) 23:50, 7 August 2023 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:Nbhairsp
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"Please check ISBN" template
Hi – because you recently added Please check ISBN to a number of pages, I thought you might have something to contribute in this discussion I just started. Joriki (talk) 20:35, 17 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Please note that when I added the reference, I placed the peculiar ISBN in double parentheses. This means that it has been double checked already. Thanks,  Mr.choppers &#124;   ✎  02:14, 18 August 2023 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:Have
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Nomination for deletion of Template:Weren't
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WPBS ratings
When you add a rating to WPBS (e.g. ), please could you remove the ratings from each individual banner? &mdash; Martin (MSGJ · talk) 11:19, 10 November 2023 (UTC)

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Prelude to Presents.
The R from avoided redirect reads, "This is a redirect from an alternative title for I Am Become Christmas, another redirect to the same title . Because double redirects are disallowed, both pages currently point to Lemon Demon." My underlining. As Prelude to Presents is not an alternative title to I Am Become Christmas then the template is not to used in this instance. Perhaps you'd like to see Category:Avoided double redirects to see which of us is supported in our opinions.

I have no intention of reverting you at this stage, and have earlier today given a pass to other examples while I think about it. Perhaps you'd also like to think about it, perhaps ask the opinions of other editors. Let's see if we can agree. Thanks Richhoncho (talk) 23:17, 18 December 2023 (UTC)


 * I think "alternative title" is just another word for "redirect". states:
 * Some redirects should target other redirects, but that is not allowed by Wikipedia software. A redirect that targets another redirect is called a "double redirect". This redirect category (rcat) template may be used to tag redirects from alternative forms (abbreviations, disambiguated titles, etc.) of titles that are themselves redirects to broader-topic articles (whether or not marked as redirects with possibilities).  To avoid a double redirect, any alternative-title redirect must also target the same broader article, and must be updated if the redirect from the more specific title is converted to a separate article.
 * The song would normally redirect to its album, but the latter is itself a redirect to Lemon Demon. This is precisely the use-case of a2r. jlwoodwa (talk) 23:23, 18 December 2023 (UTC)
 * You say I think "alternative title" is just another word for "redirect"  but that ignores all the the other redirect templates which are for wikipedia maintenance, i.e. from other caps, unnecessary disambiguation, to/from diacritic, other punctuation etc.
 * You also ignore all the other avoided redirects being added which do not follow your example, 2000+ added in the last 5 weeks, some directed to the artist or discography because no album exists, but not with the r from avoided redirect added.
 * As far as I have seen only redirects to Lemon Demon have been categorised in the way you think is correct. Rather than a long-winded and ultimately futile discussion, would you like to take this discussion elsewhere where we might get a resolution? Richhoncho (talk) 23:48, 18 December 2023 (UTC)
 * I'm not ignoring anything. a2r is also for Wikipedia maintenance: for instance, if is created as an article,  will automatically be placed in the maintenance category . This is good, since  (if it existed) would be a better target for . That is the entire purpose of a2r. Even if other editors are not using it, I don't think their omission constitutes WP:CONSENSUS to remove a2r from existing redirects. If you think there  be broad support for that, feel free to bring it up at Template talk:R avoided double redirect or propose its deletion at WP:TFD. jlwoodwa (talk) 00:03, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
 * OK. I have been adding and using R from song for the past 10 years+ and this is the first time I have had a problem where I have done nothing wrong. I could quite easily find editors to agree with me. So, as a solution that meets both our POV I will add the albums and the song titles back into the main article tomorrow and remove the r from redirects where appropriate from the redirects. Pls confirm this is acceptable. Thanks. Richhoncho (talk) 00:11, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
 * PS. I also note you are changing R from song, to r to album, on Christmas Will Be Soon which cannot be right as there is NO album. I assume typo, but nonetheless... Richhoncho (talk) 00:15, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
 * I created the redirect with r to album. You changed it to r from song at the same time as you removed a2r. When I undid your edit, it reverted to r to album.
 * This is relatively unimportant, as r to album is merely a redirect to r from song.
 * Still, I think r to album is correct here. is conceptually a redirect to ; for technical reasons, it must redirect to Lemon Demon, which is why a2r is used, but it is still conceptually a redirect to an album.
 * jlwoodwa (talk) 01:57, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
 * No, a2r would still belong on, until and unless is made into an article. You are not required to add a2r to redirects you create, but you should not remove it from redirects. jlwoodwa (talk) 02:00, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
 * I cannot fathom your dislike of my suggestion, especially case, for example, Christmas Will Be Soon should be listed for deletion as there is no mention whatsover on the target page, or redirected to a more useful destination. IOW the redirect leads nowhere. All very pointless. If you don't like my suggestion, then the alternative would be to list all appropriate songs as unwanted redirects. This you can simply do as  and I can fully support such action. Richhoncho (talk) 07:10, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
 * I don't dislike your suggestion. Please, go ahead and improve Lemon Demon. But a2r will still belong on, as per its documentation. jlwoodwa (talk) 07:13, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
 * They wouldn't be A2r if mentioned in the article. As we do not appear to be making any progress on this I am now considering something I have been advised, not being mentioned in the article I believe falls under R, Richhoncho (talk) 19:13, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
 * still be a2r,, since would be a better target for that redirect . This is the clearly-stated purpose of a2r. Please do not delete contentious redirects just to make a WP:POINT. jlwoodwa (talk) 19:35, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
 * I have offered 3 alternative solutions, taken advice from a third party and I am the one making WP:POINT? Richhoncho (talk) 22:35, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
 * I notice that you also removed a2r from . Are you WP:FOLLOWING me around? jlwoodwa (talk) 23:54, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Because it was in direct contradiction of your arguments above. Richhoncho (talk) 00:47, 20 December 2023 (UTC)
 * How was it in direct contradiction? jlwoodwa (talk) 01:59, 20 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Let’s start again, Category:Avoided double redirects reads, inter alia, '''‘This is a maintenance category, used  for maintenance of the Wikipedia project. It is not part of the encyclopedia  and contains non-article pages, or groups articles by status rather than  subject. Do not include this category in content categories.
 * This is a tracking category. It builds and maintains a list of pages primarily for the sake of the list itself. They  are not part of the encyclopedia's categorization scheme.'''
 * In other words, only errors, mistakes, miscaps etc should be included and no redirects should ever be created to be  included in this category.
 * Although my knowledge of Jurassic prawns is precisely zero, I suspect that the categories used for the redirect Cancrinos claviger are more in keeping for what is required for Rauna (genus).  Hopefully they will give you more clues to more suitable catting of the  redirect than you have been intent upon. I look forward to you finding better categorisation on this issue.
 * You will note on the Cancrinos claviger redirect there is an option for ‘printable’ which goes back to the days when a printed version of the encyclopedia was mooted. Song titles are by default  all unprintable, because, ultimately 99% of them are clutter, unlike, I  think, rauna (genus).
 * When we have a consensus on this, perhaps we can find a consensus on those song titles. Richhoncho (talk) 09:26, 20 December 2023 (UTC)
 * What part of that category description says only errors, mistakes, miscaps etc should be included? jlwoodwa (talk) 18:26, 20 December 2023 (UTC)
 * The fact that is is admininistration category and not part of the encyclopedia. Richhoncho (talk) 18:45, 20 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Administrative categories are often placed on pages with encyclopedic content. jlwoodwa (talk) 19:07, 20 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Exaample? Richhoncho (talk) 19:10, 20 December 2023 (UTC)
 * A brief sample of :
 * Despite containing article pages, these are, because they group articles by status rather than subject. jlwoodwa (talk) 20:06, 20 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Also, as I described in on, please review . The latter redirect holds the categories  and . In general, each taxon should have a single canonical location for its categories. If a taxon doesn't have an article of its own, the best-named redirect should be considered canonical, and any alternative title for that taxon should be marked with a2r: both because the redirect should be changed if the taxon is given its own article, and as a beneficial side effect, to guide editors to the canonical redirect. jlwoodwa (talk) 20:16, 20 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Examples. I did mean redirects, which is all we have been talking about in this long thread. I am pleased to see the correct removal of A2r on your Raunu (genus), and happy to accept you have chosen the correct new cats. Richhoncho (talk) 20:33, 20 December 2023 (UTC)
 * PS. You have not explained clearly why a song by artist must be a direct from an album of that artist. There are 1000s of article where that is not the case. Richhoncho (talk) 22:53, 20 December 2023 (UTC)
 * None of these are errors, mistakes, or miscapitalizations. All of these are maintenance categories. I could continue down R template index, but I got bored after 23.
 * As for, note that it still possesses a2r, and that the correct categories were already on before you started this conversation. jlwoodwa (talk) 22:54, 20 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Despite containing article pages, these are, because they group articles by status rather than subject. jlwoodwa (talk) 20:06, 20 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Also, as I described in on, please review . The latter redirect holds the categories  and . In general, each taxon should have a single canonical location for its categories. If a taxon doesn't have an article of its own, the best-named redirect should be considered canonical, and any alternative title for that taxon should be marked with a2r: both because the redirect should be changed if the taxon is given its own article, and as a beneficial side effect, to guide editors to the canonical redirect. jlwoodwa (talk) 20:16, 20 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Examples. I did mean redirects, which is all we have been talking about in this long thread. I am pleased to see the correct removal of A2r on your Raunu (genus), and happy to accept you have chosen the correct new cats. Richhoncho (talk) 20:33, 20 December 2023 (UTC)
 * PS. You have not explained clearly why a song by artist must be a direct from an album of that artist. There are 1000s of article where that is not the case. Richhoncho (talk) 22:53, 20 December 2023 (UTC)
 * None of these are errors, mistakes, or miscapitalizations. All of these are maintenance categories. I could continue down R template index, but I got bored after 23.
 * As for, note that it still possesses a2r, and that the correct categories were already on before you started this conversation. jlwoodwa (talk) 22:54, 20 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Despite containing article pages, these are, because they group articles by status rather than subject. jlwoodwa (talk) 20:06, 20 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Also, as I described in on, please review . The latter redirect holds the categories  and . In general, each taxon should have a single canonical location for its categories. If a taxon doesn't have an article of its own, the best-named redirect should be considered canonical, and any alternative title for that taxon should be marked with a2r: both because the redirect should be changed if the taxon is given its own article, and as a beneficial side effect, to guide editors to the canonical redirect. jlwoodwa (talk) 20:16, 20 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Examples. I did mean redirects, which is all we have been talking about in this long thread. I am pleased to see the correct removal of A2r on your Raunu (genus), and happy to accept you have chosen the correct new cats. Richhoncho (talk) 20:33, 20 December 2023 (UTC)
 * PS. You have not explained clearly why a song by artist must be a direct from an album of that artist. There are 1000s of article where that is not the case. Richhoncho (talk) 22:53, 20 December 2023 (UTC)
 * None of these are errors, mistakes, or miscapitalizations. All of these are maintenance categories. I could continue down R template index, but I got bored after 23.
 * As for, note that it still possesses a2r, and that the correct categories were already on before you started this conversation. jlwoodwa (talk) 22:54, 20 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Despite containing article pages, these are, because they group articles by status rather than subject. jlwoodwa (talk) 20:06, 20 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Also, as I described in on, please review . The latter redirect holds the categories  and . In general, each taxon should have a single canonical location for its categories. If a taxon doesn't have an article of its own, the best-named redirect should be considered canonical, and any alternative title for that taxon should be marked with a2r: both because the redirect should be changed if the taxon is given its own article, and as a beneficial side effect, to guide editors to the canonical redirect. jlwoodwa (talk) 20:16, 20 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Examples. I did mean redirects, which is all we have been talking about in this long thread. I am pleased to see the correct removal of A2r on your Raunu (genus), and happy to accept you have chosen the correct new cats. Richhoncho (talk) 20:33, 20 December 2023 (UTC)
 * PS. You have not explained clearly why a song by artist must be a direct from an album of that artist. There are 1000s of article where that is not the case. Richhoncho (talk) 22:53, 20 December 2023 (UTC)
 * None of these are errors, mistakes, or miscapitalizations. All of these are maintenance categories. I could continue down R template index, but I got bored after 23.
 * As for, note that it still possesses a2r, and that the correct categories were already on before you started this conversation. jlwoodwa (talk) 22:54, 20 December 2023 (UTC)
 * None of these are errors, mistakes, or miscapitalizations. All of these are maintenance categories. I could continue down R template index, but I got bored after 23.
 * As for, note that it still possesses a2r, and that the correct categories were already on before you started this conversation. jlwoodwa (talk) 22:54, 20 December 2023 (UTC)
 * None of these are errors, mistakes, or miscapitalizations. All of these are maintenance categories. I could continue down R template index, but I got bored after 23.
 * As for, note that it still possesses a2r, and that the correct categories were already on before you started this conversation. jlwoodwa (talk) 22:54, 20 December 2023 (UTC)
 * None of these are errors, mistakes, or miscapitalizations. All of these are maintenance categories. I could continue down R template index, but I got bored after 23.
 * As for, note that it still possesses a2r, and that the correct categories were already on before you started this conversation. jlwoodwa (talk) 22:54, 20 December 2023 (UTC)
 * None of these are errors, mistakes, or miscapitalizations. All of these are maintenance categories. I could continue down R template index, but I got bored after 23.
 * As for, note that it still possesses a2r, and that the correct categories were already on before you started this conversation. jlwoodwa (talk) 22:54, 20 December 2023 (UTC)
 * None of these are errors, mistakes, or miscapitalizations. All of these are maintenance categories. I could continue down R template index, but I got bored after 23.
 * As for, note that it still possesses a2r, and that the correct categories were already on before you started this conversation. jlwoodwa (talk) 22:54, 20 December 2023 (UTC)
 * None of these are errors, mistakes, or miscapitalizations. All of these are maintenance categories. I could continue down R template index, but I got bored after 23.
 * As for, note that it still possesses a2r, and that the correct categories were already on before you started this conversation. jlwoodwa (talk) 22:54, 20 December 2023 (UTC)
 * None of these are errors, mistakes, or miscapitalizations. All of these are maintenance categories. I could continue down R template index, but I got bored after 23.
 * As for, note that it still possesses a2r, and that the correct categories were already on before you started this conversation. jlwoodwa (talk) 22:54, 20 December 2023 (UTC)
 * None of these are errors, mistakes, or miscapitalizations. All of these are maintenance categories. I could continue down R template index, but I got bored after 23.
 * As for, note that it still possesses a2r, and that the correct categories were already on before you started this conversation. jlwoodwa (talk) 22:54, 20 December 2023 (UTC)
 * None of these are errors, mistakes, or miscapitalizations. All of these are maintenance categories. I could continue down R template index, but I got bored after 23.
 * As for, note that it still possesses a2r, and that the correct categories were already on before you started this conversation. jlwoodwa (talk) 22:54, 20 December 2023 (UTC)
 * None of these are errors, mistakes, or miscapitalizations. All of these are maintenance categories. I could continue down R template index, but I got bored after 23.
 * As for, note that it still possesses a2r, and that the correct categories were already on before you started this conversation. jlwoodwa (talk) 22:54, 20 December 2023 (UTC)
 * None of these are errors, mistakes, or miscapitalizations. All of these are maintenance categories. I could continue down R template index, but I got bored after 23.
 * As for, note that it still possesses a2r, and that the correct categories were already on before you started this conversation. jlwoodwa (talk) 22:54, 20 December 2023 (UTC)
 * None of these are errors, mistakes, or miscapitalizations. All of these are maintenance categories. I could continue down R template index, but I got bored after 23.
 * As for, note that it still possesses a2r, and that the correct categories were already on before you started this conversation. jlwoodwa (talk) 22:54, 20 December 2023 (UTC)
 * None of these are errors, mistakes, or miscapitalizations. All of these are maintenance categories. I could continue down R template index, but I got bored after 23.
 * As for, note that it still possesses a2r, and that the correct categories were already on before you started this conversation. jlwoodwa (talk) 22:54, 20 December 2023 (UTC)
 * As for, note that it still possesses a2r, and that the correct categories were already on before you started this conversation. jlwoodwa (talk) 22:54, 20 December 2023 (UTC)

Your proposed merge of Portuguese man o' war and Physalia
When 2 or more articles have to be merged together, the editor who proposes the merge has to start a discussion about the merge on the talk page of at least one of the articles. Not doing so may delay the merge or lead to rejection of the proposal.

I have started the discussion on both the articles' talk pages.

Please always use WP:TWINKLE to create merge proposals, since it automatically starts the discussion, gives a textbox to add your reasons for the merge, and also gives an option to add the discussion to talk pages of some or all of the articles. &mdash; CrafterNova  [ TALK ] [ CONT ] 11:12, 20 December 2023 (UTC)


 * Oh, I didn't realize that Twinkle had a merge option. I figured it would be in XfD, like RM is, but it's actually in Tag. Thanks for letting me know. jlwoodwa (talk) 19:08, 20 December 2023 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:Redirect-for-distinguish
Template:Redirect-for-distinguish has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the entry on the Templates for discussion page. – Jonesey95 (talk) 14:00, 8 January 2024 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:They're
Template:They're has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the entry on the Templates for discussion page. – Jonesey95 (talk) 14:01, 8 January 2024 (UTC)

Stale UAA accounts
Hey - I just processed a few of your recent reports at UAA. They weren't invalid - they were all policy violations - but I wanted to drop you a note about productive ways to spend your time. The accounts I looked at hadn't edited for months, even years. All their promotional contributions had already been deleted, they appeared to have given up, and in all likelihood they would never have edited again. In essence, I don't really know how you came across these accounts, but if you were spending time looking for them, please be advised that there isn't really any benefit to the project in chasing them down - your time is probably better spent elsewhere. Please take this in the spirit it is intended - I appreciate the efforts you've gone to, I'm just not sure that it's necessary here. Best wishes, Girth Summit  (blether)  21:30, 11 January 2024 (UTC)


 * I came to make the same comment, Jlwoodwa, about tagging User pages CSD U5 when the editors have stopped editing years ago. I'm sure these User pages are out there but this is not an urgent need for action. There are more productive uses of your time than going through old User pages. We could use your talent in other areas. Thank you. Liz Read! Talk! 07:17, 16 January 2024 (UTC)

"+wpbs" edits
Hi, My watchlist is flowing over with your edits to talk pages marked "+wpbs". I take it that you are not aware that is busy adding these "WikiProject banner shell" templates, so you don't have to waste time on that. However, at the same time you've been changing assessments. In one case, you re-assessed an article with an image, an infobox, multiple sections, 13 references, and one external link from "C-class" to stub, also adding a stub template to the article itself. I started going through your edits and reverted some, but there are way too many and would take me hours, so please have a look at our assessment criteria and then clean up this mess. Thanks! --Randykitty (talk) 15:13, 24 January 2024 (UTC)

"Luigi board" listed at Redirects for discussion
The redirect [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Luigi_board&redirect=no Luigi board] has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Anyone, including you, is welcome to comment on this redirect at  until a consensus is reached. 2601:883:C383:6120:0:0:0:A59B (talk) 02:06, 13 February 2024 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:IPAs
Template:IPAs has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the entry on the Templates for discussion page. Nardog (talk) 09:39, 4 March 2024 (UTC)

Tagging pages for speedy deletion
Hello, jlwoodwa,

You are tagging pages for "vandalism" that aren't obviously vandalism so I have reverted your edits. Please review WP:CSD, carefully, so you understand the criteria, intimately, when they apply and to which namespaces they apply to. Thank you. Liz Read! Talk! 06:55, 18 March 2024 (UTC)


 * Are you really saying that creating a new page with "hi. the answer is pi 75...WOOO" does not count as ? And WP:G3 applies to every namespace. jlwoodwa (talk) 16:11, 18 March 2024 (UTC)

Overtagging
Hi, how does This article includes a list of references, related reading, or external links, but its sources remain unclear because it lacks inline citations not cover unreferenced ? The eternal links can be considered as references Atlantic306 (talk) 21:33, 26 March 2024 (UTC)


 * Lacking sources entirely is a more specific problem than merely lacking inline citations to those sources. jlwoodwa (talk) 21:36, 26 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Its not lacking sources entirely as the external links can count as references such as the two reviews Atlantic306 (talk) 21:38, 26 March 2024 (UTC)
 * (I hadn't seen your revision.)
 * In that case, I agree. I suppose I should check, when I come across an apparently-unreferenced article with no footnotes, that the external links are not in fact suitable references. Thanks for explaining. jlwoodwa (talk) 21:50, 26 March 2024 (UTC)
 * I came by to say that I just replaced an unref tag that you added a while ago with and .  If there's a URL on the page that seems at all relevant, then it's not 100% unsourced (it's just poorly sourced).  I particularly wanted to recommend   to you, as I think it encourages editors to add sources that have a chance at demonstrating notability and promoting a neutral article.  A lot of shorter articles could be cited to a business's own website, but that's not really what we want. WhatamIdoing (talk) 22:44, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Would be a good case for third-party over unref? Thanks for the recommendation. jlwoodwa (talk) 00:07, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Yes, I think it would. WhatamIdoing (talk) 03:03, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Yes, I think it would. WhatamIdoing (talk) 03:03, 28 April 2024 (UTC)

More overtagging April 22, 2024
What is the utility to the Wikipedia project of putting "Old prod" templates onto talk pages? Especially for a decade-old discussion, already identified as a "prod" on the talk page. This is usueless page clutter and makes talk pages harder to read; it is as bad as all the bot chatter that used to litter talk pages. Heven forfend someone has a useful comment ona talk page, it wil be buried under all the pretty templates. Useless Wikwanking, I think. --Wtshymanski (talk) 23:47, 22 April 2024 (UTC)


 * @Wtshymanski, that template helps a couple of scripts, including Twinkle, work correctly. The scripts can't understand ordinary discussions, but if Template:Old prod is on the talk page, they'll prevent an editor from mistakenly re-prodding the article.  Although this may look like useless clutter, it is actually useful. WhatamIdoing (talk) 22:39, 27 April 2024 (UTC)

I don't understand why you are adding "pp|small=y"
...to user pages, article talk pages, user talk, user talk archives, etc. Perhaps I am mistaken but I thought this was an action reserved for admins. Please explain if you don't mind. - Shearonink (talk) 01:41, 1 May 2024 (UTC)


 * doesn't protect pages. It adds a, inobtrusive badge to mark the page as protected, and adds the page to a category. Every page I added pp to was already protected -- if it hadn't been, it would have been automatically placed in  instead. jlwoodwa (talk) 01:47, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
 * See I knew there had to be a good reason. Thanks for your reply - Shearonink (talk) 01:49, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Came here to ask the same thing about this edit. Edit summaries prevent other editors from having to waste their time figuring out what you're doing. Valereee (talk) 20:14, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
 * What's wrong with the edit summary +pp? It uses the common abbreviation + to mean "adding" and pp to mean pp. jlwoodwa (talk) 22:06, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
 * People sometimes add edit warnings if they're trying to keep others away. When I saw the badge go on, I thought it might be something like that and took a look. Maybe 'add badge to protected page' or something?
 * Is this something a bot missed? Valereee (talk) 22:24, 1 May 2024 (UTC)

Ayten Gökçer
One of my mistakes writing the Ayten Gökçer article was peacock language. Subsequently you added a template message saying so. I have tried to correct these mistakes and was wondering if you could take that specific template about subjective matter off. Although I have probably left a word or so that still deserves the template so if you encounter any please reply stating the words so I can edit them. Thanks, Fewsnake Fewsnake (talk) 00:25, 15 May 2024 (UTC)

Fourth wall
I am bothered by your addition of hatnotes about Wikipedia's internals. But in the case of Tilde, I see that all you did was change what was already there from Self-reference to for. As I've always understood policy, it should never have been there in the first place. The documentation for Template:Self-reference says explicitly "In most cases, references to the Wikipedia project are discouraged, and the valid uses for this template are rare. Consultation of the list of Self-references to avoid is advisable." Your conversion to for doesn't change the principle that it is largely deprecated practice. So what confuses me is that you have spent time doing so many, no doubt in good faith and for good reasons. Have I missed a change in attitude to "breaching the fourth wall"? Something else? 𝕁𝕄𝔽 (talk) 21:36, 15 May 2024 (UTC)


 * From :
 * From :
 * Since some people who go to the page Tilde are looking for the explanation at Signatures, I think it's good that we mention that with the other hatnotes. On the other hand, we don't put a hatnote on Two Wrongs Don't Make a Right leading to Two wrongs don't make a right, and we definitely shouldn't put a hatnote on Transformers leading to WikiProject Transformers. I don't think there's a good essay laying out the criteria, but this feels right to me.
 * Regardless, I'm not adding hatnotes about Wikipedia's internals at all – I'm just converting suitable uses of selfref into for, about, and redirect. This actually helps with WP:SRTA, I think! Anything that can't be converted like this is less likely to be a good selfref. For instance, the first article in Special:WhatLinksHere/Template:Self-reference is now Outline of biology, whose looks very dubious indeed:
 * This doesn't serve to disambiguate anything, so the self-reference is unnecessary – it should probably be converted into non-selfref lead text, or else deleted. jlwoodwa (talk) 22:18, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Regardless, I'm not adding hatnotes about Wikipedia's internals at all – I'm just converting suitable uses of selfref into for, about, and redirect. This actually helps with WP:SRTA, I think! Anything that can't be converted like this is less likely to be a good selfref. For instance, the first article in Special:WhatLinksHere/Template:Self-reference is now Outline of biology, whose looks very dubious indeed:
 * This doesn't serve to disambiguate anything, so the self-reference is unnecessary – it should probably be converted into non-selfref lead text, or else deleted. jlwoodwa (talk) 22:18, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
 * This doesn't serve to disambiguate anything, so the self-reference is unnecessary – it should probably be converted into non-selfref lead text, or else deleted. jlwoodwa (talk) 22:18, 15 May 2024 (UTC)

G7 and userspace pages
Hello. I noticed that you've tagged quite a few userspace pages under G7 because they were blanked. Please note that the "blanking = deletion request" custom does not apply in userspace. Thanks, Sdrqaz (talk) 02:48, 26 May 2024 (UTC)


 * I see. Thanks for letting me know. Sorry for the bother, and I'll untag those pages. jlwoodwa (talk) 02:57, 26 May 2024 (UTC)

Article Tag Question
Hello! I Noticed that you have marked my article, Draft:Fuller GT Magnet Elementary as dead. I personally think that this is not dead yet, and I am asking on how I can remove this tag.

Thanks, cooldudeseven7 Cooldudeseven7 (talk) 16:36, 26 May 2024 (UTC)


 * It's not the draft that's dead, it's the link in the second reference. If you control-f for "dead" on the draft, you'll see "[dead link]" in superscript after the second reference, which links to Link rot to explain the issue. jlwoodwa (talk) 20:16, 26 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Oh, Thank you! I will fix this link when I get the time, As I do know where it is supposed to lead to/ redirect Cooldudeseven7 (talk) 01:42, 28 May 2024 (UTC)

Davidmartinbluffton
Hi jlwoodwa, this POA's userpage had already been deleted by the time you commented on my report at UAA, but from the userpage it was clear that it refers to a law firm named David & Martin from the city of Bluffton. Best, Air on White (talk) 07:11, 27 May 2024 (UTC) edited Air on White (talk) 07:11, 27 May 2024 (UTC)

Medical Submissions
I think that you and I started reviewing the submissions in user space at the same time. I moved two of them to draft space, and tried to move two more of them to draft space, but the titles were already in use in draft space because you had moved them. I have given them Student welcomes.

I will be asking the educational noticeboard whether they are familiar with this class project. Robert McClenon (talk) 17:28, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

Arnold Eugen Reimann
Could you please move Arnold Eugen Reimann back to the old title (or another one) since Arnold Eugen Reimann should be a disambiguation page? As mentioned in the article,  Arnold Eugen Reimann (bank manager) has the same name, but you had already moved the article before I had time to create the disambiguation page and now I can't move it back.Ramblersen2 (talk) 02:03, 31 May 2024 (UTC)


 * You actually spelled it Arnold Wigen Reimann (bank manager) – if that's correct, then "Arnold Eugen Reimann" is unambiguous. Or was that just a typo? jlwoodwa (talk) 02:06, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
 * His name is Arnold Eugen Reimann (bank manager) as you would have seen if you had checked for other people by the same name. Ramblersen2 (talk) 02:10, 31 May 2024 (UTC)

Draft: Hinagahime
I saw you declined my draft and asked wether she was real or not. She was a legendary figure from Japanese mythology. For future reference ask before you decline an article. Camillz (talk) 21:20, 6 June 2024 (UTC)


 * My decline didn't depend on your answer, though. The draft simply doesn't demonstrate notability or provide sufficient context. I asked the question because the way to improve the draft depends on whether its subject is fictional or not. jlwoodwa (talk) 21:29, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Ah alright, apologies. Camillz (talk) 21:30, 6 June 2024 (UTC)

Deletion of nonmetal (physics)
Nice one, champ. This article has been deleted even though I submitted a contested deletion. Makes a nonsense of the contested deletion process if articles are deleted before the creating author has a reasonable amount of time to to contest the deletion. Could you please undo the deletion for the reasons set out in the contested deletion? And next time how about giving the creating author a reasonable amount of time to to contest the deletion? The only thing the deletion has achieved is to disrupt an FAC development process. --- Sandbh (talk) 02:29, 10 June 2024 (UTC)


 * I initially tagged it as WP:A10, but I realized that this did not apply, as Nonmetal (physics) is a plausible redirect to Nonmetal. Therefore, I took down the CSD tag and did a WP:BLAR instead. This is not a deletion, and can be easily reverted by anyone. jlwoodwa (talk) 02:39, 10 June 2024 (UTC)

Confusing edit
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Mayday_(Myriam_Gendron_album)&diff=next&oldid=1228359429 How in principle could these categories be improved? ―Justin ( koa v f ) ❤T☮C☺M☯ 20:40, 10 June 2024 (UTC)


 * Same here: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Utopia_Now!&diff=next&oldid=1228246718 ―Justin ( koa v f ) ❤T☮C☺M☯ 20:41, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
 * See the subcategories of . jlwoodwa (talk) 20:43, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
 * I made most of them. Which categories are these two articles supposed to be added to? What are you talking about? ―Justin ( koa v f ) ❤T☮C☺M☯ 20:45, 10 June 2024 (UTC)

Please see WikiProject_Albums/Album_article_style_advice and don't place spurious tags like this. ―Justin ( koa v f ) ❤T☮C☺M☯ 20:49, 10 June 2024 (UTC)


 * Thanks, I see now that there's general consensus not to directly categorize most albums by genre, etc. I'll assume that you meant "spurious" in the sense of "unnecessary" rather than "disingenuous". Most new articles with only two categories are undercategorized (except for subtopics like Economic history of Canada). My general procedure is to tag such articles with improve cats if I see anything in the infobox or text which isn't reflected in the categories. I'll keep in mind that albums also have a "natural subtopic" structure. jlwoodwa (talk) 21:06, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
 * I do not think you were being disingenuous, no. And Mayday (Myriam Gendron album) has 4 categories. ―Justin ( koa v f ) ❤T☮C☺M☯ 21:09, 10 June 2024 (UTC)

Moving to draft
Hi @Jlwoodwa, While reviewing new pages especially lists, do not speedily move them to draft because of sources as you did here]. Now the article you requested the redirect deletion has been restored into 2024 African Fencing Championships by the author. While we usually wait is to give the editor time as the article may still be in creation. Pls next time wait at least an hour (60 minutes) before tagging as unreferenced or thereabout. Then after a day or more, feel free to move it to draft. Thanks. Safari Scribe Edits! Talk! 16:47, 11 June 2024 (UTC)


 * Thanks for letting me know. In retrospect I agree that draftifying didn't help here. I see plenty of other editors draftifying after less than 24 hours, though. Is the difference that this article had no other issues beyond being unreferenced (e.g. notability, BLP, COI)? jlwoodwa (talk) 17:25, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
 * In a case like that, you can speedily tag for deletion, a copyright work, an observable non notable article or purely advertisement. While if the article seems like an important one, then wait for the creator at least an hour before tagging (like no source, uncategorized, orphan, etc). After this, wait for a day or more and if you see the article still doesn't make sense, take a great lump and quicky draftify it. Cheers! Safari Scribe Edits! Talk! 17:35, 11 June 2024 (UTC)

"Close connection with its subject"
Hi Jlwoodwa, thank you for reviewing my article about Lycée français de Séville. Since you mentioned that "a major contributor to this article appears to have a close connection with its subject", we removed with my students several things to maintain the neutrality of the article. Can you please review it again and tell me what we need to do to get the message removed. This is my first contribution on Wikipedia, I appreciate the advice. Clara953 (talk) 08:51, 25 June 2024 (UTC)

Surprised with a user requesting a speedy deletion
Good evening, Jlwoodwa. Currently an article I wrote is being nominated for speedy deletion. OK, maybe I did not write it correctly, or whatever. But I am surprised with a fact: there is the user:CarmenNozal64, who seems to have appeared on Wikipedia with the only purpose of contesting this article (and another related to it). Further, CarmenNozal64 placed not one, but three templates requesting deletion, including one "as hoax" (which I consider excessive). And I would like to have some extra time to edit/rewrite. Please, could you be so kind and take a look at it? Thanks in advance. Regards, Fadesga (talk) 22:34, 29 June 2024 (UTC)


 * My most cordial greeting, the reason why I placed the promotional ad and deleted the page is because according to what I researched on Google about "Carlos Javier Jarquin" it is objectively seen that he is not a relevant and encyclopedic character, logically, the article is promotional, and I refer to the following tests:
 * 1. The media in which Jarquin collaborates advertise his "works" with excessive promotional language.
 * 2. All articles published in virtual media about Jarquin are made by friends of Jarquin (see Google)
 * 3. Jarquin's books are self-published by Amazon.
 * 4. Holding a virtual event on poetry is not considered of encyclopedic relevance, and then if so, can everyone who makes a couple of self-publications on Amazon and disseminates them in virtual media where they collaborate already appear on Wikipedia? I think that goes against Wikipedia's relevance principles.
 * 5. Please read the discussion about the article, there I highlight an investigation that I did where the same user who created the article "Carlos Javier Jarquin" is a poet and is a friend of Jarquin and has been published by him in the media where he collaborates (you can search on Google).
 * In short, I do not do it with the intention of affecting Jarquin or anyone but with the intention of maintaining that encyclopedic principle of Wikipedia. If the person who created the article wants a page for his friend, he can make a web page without necessarily having to host his friend's biography on Wikipedia.
 * Kind regards. CarmenNozal64 (talk) 22:54, 29 June 2024 (UTC)

"Close connection with its subject"
Hi @Jlwoodwa, thank you for reviewing my article about Lycée français de Séville. Since you mentioned that "a major contributor to this article appears to have a close connection with its subject", we removed with my students several things to maintain the neutrality of the article. Can you please review it again and tell me what we need to do to get the message removed. This is my first contribution on Wikipedia, I appreciate the advice. Thanks! Clara953 (talk) 11:38, 2 July 2024 (UTC)

Thanks!
Pichpich (talk) 21:41, 10 July 2024 (UTC)

You deleted my sandbox that I created an hour ago...Why? Let me learn

 * That was insanely crazy and weird. I just created the account about an hour ago and I am reading and learning as I go along in the "sandbox" environment. Why would you delete my "sandbox" where I am supposed to learn as I read the articles and learn what to do? I just learned how to make a heading and paragraph. Give me a moment to learn. Enigmainkwell (talk) 02:49, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[ reply]


 * This page was last edited on 12 July 2024, at 02:49.

Enigmainkwell (talk) 02:58, 12 July 2024 (UTC)


 * I responded at . jlwoodwa (talk) 03:22, 12 July 2024 (UTC)

Can you stop with the script based "link unpiping"?
Some of these are okay, but many are not appropriate. It's often quite deliberate to link to a specific page title that is different from the link text, even when the link text, taken as a title, happens to incidentally redirect to the same place. Page titles and targets of redirects change regularly, and wiki authors should intentionally point their links at the title which is most clearly relevant to the intention of the link, which is not always the same as visible link text. Scripts should not be automatically second-guessing those choices without human attention.

If you want to make this kind of change it should be done deliberately with careful human checking and thought about each one. Just automatically converting these does more harm than good. –jacobolus (t) 10:08, 13 July 2024 (UTC)

Duplicated citations
Hello! How did you know which articles to tag with Duplicated citations? I was trying to find a bot that did that task. Thanks, Polygnotus (talk) 21:41, 14 July 2024 (UTC)


 * I just notice them as I read Wikipedia. I fix it myself when I can, of course, but it's pretty hard on mobile. jlwoodwa (talk) 22:07, 14 July 2024 (UTC)

Speedy deletion of User talk:Fergus Group


Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia. The page User talk:Fergus Group has been speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This was done under section U5 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page appeared to consist of writings, information, discussions, and/or activities not closely related to Wikipedia's goals. Please note that Wikipedia is not a free web hosting service. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such pages may be deleted at any time.

Please do not recreate the material without addressing these concerns, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If you think this page should not have been deleted for this reason, or you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, then please contact the, or if you have already done so, you can place a request here. Pickersgill-Cunliffe (talk) 14:50, 16 July 2024 (UTC)

User:Daftar hermes69
I reported them to UAA, you declined it. I don't understand why. The account was making promotional edits (in a different language), and translated to that language the name is:Register for Hermes69. How is that not an issue? Me Da Wikipedian (talk) 02:06, 22 July 2024 (UTC)


 * I didn't decline it. I'm not an admin, and only admins should decline UAA reports (except false-positive bot reports). I just commented on the report, and later removed it.
 * With the new information you provided about the username, I agree that it violates the username policy. Since the report didn't stay up for very long, I think it would be alright if you make the report again – this time, including that context. Admins don't always take the time to "dig around" for reports like these (and I don't think they should have to). jlwoodwa (talk) 02:31, 22 July 2024 (UTC)