User talk:Jmillsfun

Stephen Lambdin
Can you help me understand why you are removing the AUTOBIO tag from Stephen Lambdin. This article was clearly created by the subject. Thanks  7  04:43, 14 October 2009 (UTC)

While I will accept the fact that you tagged that it had possible "bias" opinions, this is specifically why i requested a friend finish and RE-cite the sources "properly", as I am in fact the subject's cousin it therefore cannot be a "autobiography." He created a page for someone he looks up to recently in our sport, and as for the fact that I too compete in the sport and look up to a well established athlete as he, I choose to build one out of tribute. I'm already aware how being a cousin will be taken as bias, but if "non-scholars" only filled information about people that they have never met this database would be a little more empty. Is there a criteria that establishes how distant of a relationship from the subject you must be? Are you allowed to know the person? have met? be distantly related? How far is far enough and vice versa how close is to close?

I am in town from Toronto and was using HIS computer. I was unaware that I was on HIS email account. This mistake wont happen again I can assure you. I however did make the mistake in not knowing that there were places that you could hammer out layout etc. without saving it, as this was my first article. While I now very am aware that there are tutorials, realistically if I had not filled out the page and saved it using his screen name I wouldn't have been bombarded with accusations of being the said person, and I would have been given a little more time as to hammer things out. Now I am sure that it is a full time job to keep kids and young adults off of this site filling out pages about there friends, and would have tagged this page hopefully as quickly as you and your peers did for which you have my kudos, I am not sure what I need to do establish that I AM NOT STEPHEN LAMBDIN.

As for the comment "clearly created by the subject," I can see how I, over zealously, added "opinion" to the site and for that you have my apologies. However, now as you can see there is nothing listed on the site that cannot be found on the internet (taking away the "bias,") and since I am in fact not stephen lambdin and I will happily message you from my computer in Toronto with the different IP address (Im not sure how they work, computers are not my speciality) but was bought in Canada and has never even left Toronto. I am unaware of how IP addresses work, or even if you can see where I am based on it, but would be happy to message you when I get home.

I believe I have cited my sources properly, if not I will happily get them to your standard. Hopefully this can be resolved.


 * It's fine to reply right here - thanks for your answer. As his cousin are you familiar with our conflict of interest and neutral point of view policies?  Thanks.   7  07:13, 14 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Can I also politely suggest that you may also want to review Citing sources - because the current links to homepages of websites do not allow for a reader to quickly and easily verify the fact that you are citing. I will try to provide an example of a proper citation for you.   7  07:16, 14 October 2009 (UTC)

I figured this might help both our sides a little:


 * 1.1 Examples of COI

o 1.1.1 Citing oneself

Self explanitory

o 1.1.2 Financial

Self explanitory

o 1.1.3 Legal antagonists

not in a legal battle, that i know of haha

o 1.1.4 Autobiography

Self explanitory

o 1.1.5 Self-promotion

no product, non biographical anymore, not obscure individual is a USA National Team member and world medalist

o 1.1.6 Promotional article production on behalf of clients

No client/money involved

o 1.1.7 Campaigning

Possible to say campagning on first draft, not anymore

o 1.1.8 Close relationships

''"Closeness to a subject does not mean you're incapable of being neutral, but it may incline you towards some bias. Be guided by the advice of other editors. If editors on a talk page suggest in good faith that you may have a conflict of interest, try to identify and minimize your biases, and consider withdrawing from editing the article."

''

From that quote on your policies, what needs to be changed on the page to reduce conflict of interest? As of now i feel that there is no opinion on the page and only fact.

''"The definition of "too close" in this context is governed by common sense. An article about a little-known band should preferably not be written by the band's manager or a band member's spouse. However, an expert on trees is welcome to contribute to articles on that subject, even if that editor is deeply committed to the subject." ''

I hardly feel that growing up 6 years apart and in separate countries defines me as too close to the individual. Being that we are both competitors on different teams I feel that will draw in some more neutrality. The fact that i am his cousin, in my opinion and in most cases, wouldnt even qualify as a close friend. At this point though this just become debate on opinions.

If it would help, on the page I will happily state who I am and declare that I have "interest" in the subject as suggested by your policies?

I understand what you are saying about the citations and I will happily change the errors today when we get back.