User talk:Jms green

Copyright violation at Steve Lehman
As last edited by you, the article on Steve Lehman said:


 * Steve Lehman is an American born conceptual artist and Founder and Person in Charge of WillyNilly™, a digital lifestyle company. He is considered an important artist because he successfully merged fine art, journalism and anthropology[1]. His work is distinct because of his ability to “sample” other artists and weave together many types of art [2].


 * He has been exhibited in major museums [3] and recently had a bootleg show at the Whitney Museum of American Art [4]. Steve Lehman’s current work is about artists forging a direct relationship with their audience and explores the worlds of reality and dreams.

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This page at 6goldstaraward.us tells the world:


 * Steve Lehman is a conceptual artist and Founder and Person in Charge of WillyNilly™, a digital lifestyle company. He has been exhibited in major museums and recently had a bootleg show at the Whitney Museum of American Art. Steve’s current work is about artists forging a direct relationship with their audience and explores the worlds of reality and dreams. He is considered an important artist because he successfully merged fine art and journalism.

etc etc. It also says:


 * ©Steve Lehman. All rights Reserved.
 * WillyNilly™, LLC
 * This site is owned and operated by WillyNilly™, LLC. All of the content shown on this site, including, but not limited to photographs, video, images, text are the exclusive intellectual property of Steve Lehman, WillyNilly™, LLC, and/or its content providers. The Content is protected by U. S. and international copyrights and trademarks. No Content may be downloaded, copied, reproduced, republished, manipulated, altered, transmitted, or distributed in any way, without Steve Lehman’s written permission and/or a payment of a fee or other arrangement.
 * This site is owned and operated by WillyNilly™, LLC. All of the content shown on this site, including, but not limited to photographs, video, images, text are the exclusive intellectual property of Steve Lehman, WillyNilly™, LLC, and/or its content providers. The Content is protected by U. S. and international copyrights and trademarks. No Content may be downloaded, copied, reproduced, republished, manipulated, altered, transmitted, or distributed in any way, without Steve Lehman’s written permission and/or a payment of a fee or other arrangement.

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When you added this material to Wikipedia, you did so within a box immediately under which was written Content that violates any copyrights will be deleted. Addition of this material violates copyright and I am therefore deleting it. -- Hoary (talk) 02:51, 17 October 2009 (UTC)

Good Points! I'm a firm advocate of copyright law. I like you are on top things. However, I did get permission from Steve Lehman/ WillyNilly™. Jms green (talk)

Ok, hoary. Let's resolve this. This is an important artist/person who needs to be on wikipedia. I want you to put the page back up. --Jms green 11:28pm est 10/16/09


 * Please see Contact us/Permit. But if that were okayed then we'd have Steve Lehman writing about Steve Lehman; please see Autobiography. If Lehman is an important person, surely there are unrelated reliable sources on which you can draw for an article in your own words. You're free to draft such an article here; if the result is good, it can be moved to the expected place. -- Hoary (talk) 03:50, 17 October 2009 (UTC)

I will check out Contact us/Permit. I already found great sources, that are very relaible, everything in the article was very well documented. 12:08 AM Jms green 10/17/09 --Jms green


 * Simplest would be to skip Contact us/Permit and write your own article based on those sources. Otherwise the article, even if otherwise successful, will sport a conspicuous autobiography warning at the top. -- Hoary (talk) 04:17, 17 October 2009 (UTC)

Sounds good. ---JMS Green

Hey Hoary, Rather than "lock down" the Steve Lehman page. I think it would be more prudent to create a stub. He's played a significant role in art and media and should be in wikipedia. I believe he is more notable than any of the artist/photographers who's pages you started. --File.folders —Preceding unsigned comment added by File.folders (talk • contribs) 12:19, 19 October 2009 (UTC)

You should look at his book, it's really amazing and considered ground breaking. See --File.folders


 * I don't claim he's less notable than any of the photographers whose articles I started. I do claim that there's been a pattern of copyright violation in attempts here to create an article about him.


 * I don't know why you are raising this on Jms green's page, but anyway Jms green wrote above that the idea of starting an article on him in his [Jms green's] own userspace and then having the result moved "Sounds good".


 * And as for notability, the question isn't of whether his work amazes me, it's instead of whether his work has brought critical attention from museums, photography critics, in books, etc. -- Hoary (talk) 13:59, 19 October 2009 (UTC)