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Family Home Entertainment
Last month, you redirected the Family Home Entertainment page to Artisan Entertainment and locked it because someone stupidly decided that the company isn't notable, but it is notable because it was a big name for VHS and a lot of its VHS's are collected by buffs. Most of the reliable sources found for the article came from Google Books, mainly the Billboard magazines, so it barely has reliable news sources. But here are more sources: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Family_Home_Entertainment#More_references 89.11.210.35 (talk) 22:29, 15 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Well, "big name for VHS" and "a lot of its VHS's are collected by buffs" are not by default an indicator of notability. Openly editable wikis are not usually acceptable as sources so I recommend you remove them from the draft. I'll have to look at the draft tomorrow. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 22:45, 15 October 2016 (UTC)
 * But I'm trying to prove it with those Google Books sources, why did you ask me to remove them? Can't you read them? 95.59.202.157 (talk) 22:47, 15 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Um, "openly editable wikis". Not "Google Books". It's late here so I am not going to read the latter immediately, but the former are not OK as sources. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 22:48, 15 October 2016 (UTC)
 * I'm not saying the link to the draft is a source itself, I said I added more source links in the "More references" section, and you can just take the more reliable ones and add them. Look again if you don't believe me: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Family_Home_Entertainment#More_references 95.59.202.157 (talk) 22:50, 15 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Again with not being clear. The draft has links to openly editable wikis such as Wikia in the "more references" section. These need to go, as they are not reliable sources and you cannot establish notability with them. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 22:52, 15 October 2016 (UTC)
 * I removed the wiki links now, but I wish you know what Family Home Entertainment is, like most VHS fans and people aware of it. 95.59.202.157 (talk) 22:56, 15 October 2016 (UTC)

I took a look at the sources, none of them jump out as clear cut. I wonder what the people who recommended deletion have to say: Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 09:37, 16 October 2016 (UTC)
 * I am concerned the IP editor invested in this article has no understanding of what trivial mentions are and why none of the references are particularly convincing in terms of notability, particularly the notability guidelines for corporations. My 2 cents: this is a pretty clear case of citation overkill masking non-notability. The sourcing of the present draft is provided by Billboard listings and movie reviews which credit FHE as the producer of the movie and never mention its name again; the draft article reflects the sourcing, as a bulky, list-obsessed mess with the only substantial content being unsourced (e.g. the properties list). Veni, Vidi, Video: The Hollywood Empire and the VCR is the closest to something which actually substantially covers the company, but that's still one paragraph, a terrible indicator of notability overall. The sourcing provided under "More references" is a mixed bag composed of questionable sources which still barely refer to the company at all. I've tried to search for some good sourcing myself but what I can find largely refers to it in the context of Artisan Entertainment, which just reinforces my earlier perceptions.  —0xF8E8 (talk) 11:26, 16 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Exactly. A whole lot of them are trivial mentions. More importantly, I see that quite a lot of the information already exists on Wikipedia. For example at List_of_Artisan_Entertainment_video_releases and Artisan_Entertainment. I would suggest improving the target pages, instead of creating a new page and duplicating content. --Lemongirl942 (talk) 11:30, 16 October 2016 (UTC)
 * I agree with the two above comments, which is essentially what I said at Articles for deletion/Family Home Entertainment. Every mention in the linked sources is trivial. The editor attempting to create this article should read (or re-read) WP:GNG, specifically "'Significant coverage' addresses the topic directly and in detail, so that no original research is needed to extract the content. Significant coverage is more than a trivial mention, but it does not need to be the main topic of the source material." (emphasis added by me)


 * And remove the link to a student essay uploaded to coursehero.com, an apparent academic-cheating-promotion site. – Jonesey95 (talk) 13:56, 16 October 2016 (UTC)


 * Seriously, all of you, I'm TRYING to PROVE the company's existence with those dang sources, so it HAS to deserve a separate article! 85.196.227.118 (talk) 22:05, 16 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Please see WP:ITEXISTS. Merely existing is not enough to have an article here. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 05:39, 17 October 2016 (UTC)
 * I don't care! It doesn't MERELY exist, it just EXISTS! There are LOTS of VHS's and others released by the COMPANY ITSELF up until 2005! If you keep saying that it's "not notable", then just get someone else like Ryanasaurus0077 to do the bloody research! 5.151.220.5 (talk) 15:55, 17 October 2016 (UTC)
 * What I and numerous others have attempted to communicate to you is that we have guidelines for inclusion that this subject simply does not meet. We do not have an article on a subject because it exists, but rather because it meets those guidelines; you have advanced no argument for its inclusion based on those guidelines, but rather deflected your own responsibility to demonstrate that and wasted numerous' others time insulting them. It's not rocket science; an article needs significant coverage in reliable sources, not a bunch of movie reviews and Billboard listings which barely mention the company at all. You are welcome to add material to the numerous other areas where movie listings and such are already covered, like List of Artisan Entertainment video releases. The VHS collectors you keep mentioning would be aided substantially more by contributions there rather than trying to cram it into a lengthy section of poorly sourced prose. —0xF8E8 (talk) 19:54, 17 October 2016 (UTC)

I agree with leaving this company but Jo-Jo deletes away! JO JO- get a grip. You clearly know nothing of 1990s home video boom. If you did you woulndnt have deleted Tina-Desiree Berg or the 3 others. You are not contributing in a constructive means whatsover.45.48.175.180 (talk) 15:58, 21 October 2016 (UTC)
 * I know enough to say that none of these things make either article notable by default. Other people here and in the deletion review have explained what would need to happen for them to become notable, badly spelled offtopic rants won't. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 16:50, 21 October 2016 (UTC)

WRONG! IF you have NO knowledge on the topic you should not be commenting or deleting. PERIOD. Is veracity not the goal here? The Tina-Desiree Berg article was heavily cited. At least 22 independant references. Yet- your response is "what part of closed do you not understand". Absurd. And the other actors with fewer credits and close to no references you leave untouched? Really? Again- no logical explanation from you. If we are to apply your standard both here and with the Tina-Desiree Berg article- you should have also deleted Jason Johnson and JJ North. Zero consistency. Zero credibility. And clearly its with several articles. Stop involving yourself with topics you are not an expert in. Let those that are decide. And be consistent with your qualifications if you want respect. And if you had any honor at this point you would undo the delete45.48.175.180 (talk) 21:00, 21 October 2016 (UTC)Will
 * Nope. First, it was not me who told you that discussion was closed. Secondhandly, "independant references" are not by default proof of notability and you have consistently ignored the points made about this by other editors above - the sources in the article I deleted are either only mentioning the name of the subject, are not independent or are unreliable. Third, administrators need to assess the consensus established by other editors, they do not need to be experts in a given subject as one's own personal opinion on a subject is not a valid reason for deletion (or keeping), and other good or bad pages exist, they don't affect the standing of this one. If you feel the need to contest this close some more please do so at WP:DRV or WP:ANI. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 09:16, 22 October 2016 (UTC)

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Help required - as a neutral party
Hi Jo-jo, I hope you are well. You recently removed a number of diffs from an old talk page of mine (User talk:Nordic Dragon) which had a personal telephone number on it. It has since been moved, for speedying - I am now being accused that it was from my current talk page. Can I kindly ask you, as a neutral party, that you confirm that you completed those actions via ANI. Thank you. The topic for discussion is here. Many thanks Nordic   Nightfury  14:23, 25 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Seems like the issue has moved on in the meantime. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 15:54, 25 October 2016 (UTC)

WP:Village pump (policy)
"CYA" means "cover your ass". Glrx (talk) 21:32, 26 October 2016 (UTC)
 *  More meaningless Internet acronyms... Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 21:46, 26 October 2016 (UTC)
 * It predates the Internet. Glrx (talk) 22:35, 26 October 2016 (UTC)

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Wrongful deletion of page JON ASHER
You have speedied a deletion on an article of a working songwriter with major credits. This is looked at seriously and we ask that you restore the deletion before we take further action. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Keyofgemini (talk • contribs) 00:11, 1 November 2016 (UTC)
 * If you mean Jon Asher, the folks at Articles for deletion/Jon Asher decided that the page was written in an overly promotional manner and was a topic that does not meet our WP:N guidelines, see also WP:GNG. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 06:44, 1 November 2016 (UTC)

Removing backlinks after deletion
Hi, thank you for your work on the encyclopedia. I noticed that after deleting TripHobo, links to that page from various other articles remained in place; I have removed them now.

WP:AFDAI encourages us to clean up redlinks after deletion. If you normally do this and overlooked it on this occasion, please pardon my interruption. Otherwise, I hope this is helpful. Best wishes – Fayenatic  L ondon 14:15, 1 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Greetings. Generally speaking I do not remove backlinks by default, as most AfDs are not "this isn't going to be suitable for an article, ever" closes and I don't have a crystal ball to predict otherwise. Especially that one where the deletion arguments emphasize that they apply mainly to the current state of the topic. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 16:26, 1 November 2016 (UTC)
 * I don't read that particular AfD that way; nor the guidance at WP:AFDAI. The links in this case were bare entries under the "See also" heading of articles for other companies in the same sector, and such links are not desirable as redlinks. Thanks anyway for taking the trouble to reply. – Fayenatic  L ondon 21:29, 1 November 2016 (UTC)

Deletion of Article about Lancom Systems GmbH
Hi Jo-jo. I am a German newbee in the US wikipedia. The article about Lancom Systems GmbH was deleted after a discussion: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Lancom_Systems_GmbH. Things did change during the last few weeks. There are many articles on Lancom not only in German press, abut also in international media. Here ist just a short list:


 * silicon.de, Rohde & Schwarz beteiligt sich an Lancom, http://www.silicon.de/41636004/rohde-schwarz-beteiligt-sich-an-lancom/


 * computable (netherlands), Rohde & Schwarz stapt in Lancom Systems, https://www.computable.nl/artikel/nieuws/netwerken/5868514/250449/rohde-schwarz-stapt-in-lancom-systems.html


 * finanzen.net, LANCOM Systems gewinnt Rohde & Schwarz als strategischen Partner, http://www.finanzen.net/nachricht/aktien/LANCOM-Systems-gewinnt-Rohde-amp-Schwarz-als-strategischen-Partner-5161213


 * Channelobserver, Lancom bringt Netzwerk-Management in die Cloud, http://www.channelobserver.de/artikel/lancom-bringt-netzwerk-management-in-die-cloud-6327/


 * TASS (Russia), LANCOM Systems привлекает Rohde & Schwarz в качестве стратегического партнера, http://tass.ru/press-relizy/3751227


 * Le Lezard (France), LANCOM Systems intègre Rohde & Schwarz comme partenaire stratégique, http://www.lelezard.com/communique-11773132.html


 * funkschau, Lancom Systems on Tour, http://www.funkschau.de/channelxpert/artikel/128751/


 * IT BUSINESS, LANCOM startet Hotspot-Offensive, http://www.it-business.de/offenes-wlan-aber-sicher-v-36567-12634/


 * Internet World, Freies WLAN: Das Drahtlos-Dilemma, http://www.internetworld.de/mobile/wlan/freies-wlan-drahtlos-dilemma-1113139.html


 * Computer Resell News, Lancom-Router für All-IP-Einsatz, http://www.crn.de/telekommunikation/artikel-109636.html


 * Handelsblatt (leading German business daily), Mit diesen 50 Unternehmen müssen Sie rechnen, http://www.handelsblatt.com/unternehmen/beruf-und-buero/buero-special/technology-fast-50-award-2015-mit-diesen-50-unternehmen-muessen-sie-rechnen/12518104.html


 * Wirtschaftswoche (leading German business weekly), Koenzens Netzauge, http://www.wiwo.de/ralf-koenzen/10971016.html

This is just a short list. Ralf Koenzen, the CEO of Lancom Systems GmbH is writing a regular clumn in the German business weekly Wirtschaftswoche. Lancom Systems is number 2 among the manufacturers of b2b-network hardware in Germany (after Cisco). I do believe the decision for delete should be revoked. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mikausch (talk • contribs) 10:20, 2 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Greetings, . Many of these sources seem like offhand mentions which don't support notability. Of these which don't, I don't know whether they are reliable and independent. I'd try to send the article to Articles for creation. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 19:32, 2 November 2016 (UTC)

deleted Simone Ahuja
My name is Carissa. I was updating the Wikipedia info For Simone Ahuja. She is an author of Jugaad and her links were posted from HBR.org.

The entire description of Simone Ahuja has been deleted.

If you can help me restore her page, I'd appreciate this so much. Even if you put it back up with the original posts prior to Sept 2016.

I am not sure why she was deleted off Wikipedia.

Thank you for your help. Sincerely, Carissa — Preceding unsigned comment added by Buckrun10 (talk • contribs) 12:46, 3 November 2016 (UTC)


 * This dicussion here led to the deletion of the article you ask about- the administator was carrying out the wishes of the community. The discussion indicates it was deleted as being effectively an advertisment: please note that Wikipedia is not a place to promote people. Hope this helps, Muffled Pocketed  13:06, 3 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Probably best if you go through Articles for creation for now. Remember, it's generally best if the sources you use are reliable (see WP:RS), substantial and independent from the subject. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 16:20, 3 November 2016 (UTC)

Recovery

 * Greetings, . Seems like Mr. Pustelnik hasn't had enough written about them for us to properly source an article from. Especially articles on living people need to have impeccable sources; WP:GNG enumerates some conditions. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 16:23, 3 November 2016 (UTC)

Recovery

 * Probably best if you submit a draft to Articles for creation, keeping in mind the notes about sources I gave above. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 17:51, 3 November 2016 (UTC)

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Dr Archika Didi's page deletion
Hi Jo-Jo

Just found out that Dr Archika Didi page was deleted. Although I tried to put all reliable sources available, I am not sure why the page got deleted? Appreciate if I can get answers for the reason of deletion the page.

Thanks

Inder — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tiwanainder (talk • contribs) 15:14, 6 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Greetings, . The folks at Articles for deletion/Dr Archika Didi decided that there simply isn't enough coverage to write an article with. Not all sources that one can find about a subject are good; for example, the sources need to go somewhat in-depth and they need to have a reputation for fact-checking and accuracy. It doesn't seem like either source in the article was enough. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 15:23, 6 November 2016 (UTC)

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Löschung von Lancom Systems GmbH
Hallo,

Ich versuche es mal auf deutsch, da du dies ja offensichtlich sprichst. Ich habe gerade mit Verwunderung festgestellt dass die von mir erstellte Seite Lancom Systems GmbH gelöscht wurde. Leider wurde ich nie darüber informiert, dass es damit Probleme gab, was ich nicht sehr rücksichtsvoll finde. Leider kann ich es Rückwirkend auch nicht mehr nachvollziehen, da die Seite nicht mehr existiert. Articles for deletion/Lancom Systems GmbH hilft mir auch nicht weiter. Ich verstehe nur, dass offenbar fehlende Quellen bemängelt wurden, aber die Seite war mit vielen Quellen ausgestattet, als ich sie das letzte Mal besucht habe. Ich hoffe du kannst mir helfen, Licht ins dunkle zu bringen.--Trockennasenaffe (talk) 14:34, 8 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Hallo, . Dieselbe Frage ist bereits in gestellt worden; zuviele der Quellen erwähnen Lancom nur nebenbei oder sind nicht zuverlässig oder unabhängig von Lancom. Unsere Relevanzkriterien fragen nach substantiellen Quellen, die zuverlässig und von Lancom unabhängig sind. Für eine Neuanlage des Artikels würde ich mein Glück in Articles for creation versuchen. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 16:12, 8 November 2016 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jon Asher (2nd nomination)
Hi Jo-Jo Eumerous. Just wondering if Jon Asher needs to go through another AfD or if it could simply be tagged for speedy per WP:G4. The first AfD was only a few weeks ago and from the reading the comments of that AfD it does not seem that the article has been significantly improved or that the prior issues have been addressed. I am also a tad bit concerned by the article's creators use of the word "we" in their user talk page posts such as here, here and here. It could be nothing, but in combination with this it might indicate a problem per WP:NOSHARE. There is a big gap in the edit history of Keyofgemini from September 23 to November 1 and I'm guessing that is because the edits during that time span were made to the previously deleted version of "Jon Asher". -- Marchjuly (talk) 05:45, 9 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Sorry,, but between the outcome of the election over in the 'States and sleep deprivation I won't be able to comment intelligently for a while. Maybe later today. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 06:51, 9 November 2016 (UTC)
 * No problem and thanks for the reply. FWIW, it looks like the second AfD is heading towards a delete consensus so probably it will be all sorted out fairly soon. -- Marchjuly (talk) 07:48, 9 November 2016 (UTC)

Don Allison
You deleted Don Allison with a !supervote, please restore it. If you want to !vote, please !vote. If you want to close, tally the !votes. --Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) (talk) 13:21, 9 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Oi. Must have misread "keep" as "delete"; I've backed out deletion and closure. That'll teach me to handle AfD while in post-election despondence. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 16:07, 9 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks! I will tell T that you are one of the good ones, and to not send you to a FEMA detention camp for reeducation. --Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) (talk) 16:14, 9 November 2016 (UTC)

2016 Tennessee vs. Georgia football game
Hi Jo-Jo Eumerus, I just wanted to let you know that when you deleted 2016 Tennessee vs. Georgia football game you must have forgotten to actually close the AfD. Sarahj2107 (talk) 15:43, 10 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Now it is closed. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 16:32, 10 November 2016 (UTC)

DYK for Lake Minchin
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Asghar Adam Ali
Perfume Creator / Founder & Chairman Nabeel Perfumes Asghar Adam Ali had a Wiki Page. Please would you let us know why it was deleted and what we can do in order to have it reinstated? Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Asghar Adam Ali wiki (talk • contribs) 03:20, 11 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Greetings, . First, Asghar Adam Ali was deleted because it was usually written like an advert. Also, if you are connected to the subject, you should be wary of editing the article yourself - better to write a draft at Draft:Asghar Adam Ali, send it through Articles for creation and if it's accepted ask for edits on the talk page by adding  and an explanation of what you want changed. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 10:22, 12 November 2016 (UTC)

Hello
Hello Jo-Jo Eumerus, I was actually patrolling on wikipedia, It seems this article DJ Kaywise was deleted previously due to its promotional tune. Can it be created? so that i can add that as one of my draft, looking forward to your response. Have a nice day -- Music Boy (talk to me) 20:26, 11 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Greetings, . Most of the concerns were about the article author being a COI editor, but there were also concerns about lack of notability. You'd need to demonstrate notability to recreate the article. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 10:24, 12 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your response. I will look into that with the used of Google -- Music Boy (talk to me) 10:52, 12 November 2016 (UTC)

User:InternetArchiveBot/Dead-links.js
Hi, thanks for the edit! You forgot a comma after "" -- Green  C  19:57, 12 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Now no longer. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 19:59, 12 November 2016 (UTC)

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OTRS?
Hi Jo-Jo. I recall that you ran on a platform of being one of the four or so editors on this project that understand how files work. Would you be at all interested in helping out with the permissions queues on the Volunteer Response Team? We badly need competent editors who either understand copyright or are willing to learn about it to help process incoming emails. Personally, I find it to be a fun diversion from more standard work on the project, and it's immensely important to properly process the emails from individuals considering donating media for use on the English Wikipedia or the Wikimedia Commons. Please let me know if you'd be interested. ~ Rob 13 Talk 01:31, 13 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Um, to be honest while this is probably a more fun job than deleting images, I suspect it will consume an inordinate amount of time to handle such requests. Real life doesn't suck up that much time but there is still only some time left for writing articles, and I have a long queue there. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 10:24, 13 November 2016 (UTC)

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A new user right for New Page Patrollers
Hi.

A new user group, New Page Reviewer, has been created in a move to greatly improve the standard of new page patrolling. The user right can be granted by any admin at PERM. It is highly recommended that admins look beyond the simple numerical threshold and satisfy themselves that the candidates have the required skills of communication and an advanced knowledge of notability and deletion. Admins are automatically included in this user right.

It is anticipated that this user right will significantly reduce the work load of admins who patrol the performance of the patrollers. However,due to the complexity of the rollout, some rights may have been accorded that may later need to be withdrawn, so some help will still be needed to some extent when discovering wrongly applied deletion tags or inappropriate pages that escape the attention of less experienced reviewers, and above all, hasty and bitey tagging for maintenance. User warnings are available here but very often a friendly custom message works best.

If you have any questions about this user right, don't hesitate to join us at WT:NPR. (Sent to all admins) .MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 13:47, 15 November 2016 (UTC)

Deletion review for Independent Music Awards
User:Themusicwang has asked for a deletion review of Independent Music Awards. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. —Cryptic 22:10, 16 November 2016 (UTC)
 * So seen. I may comment tomorrow. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 22:54, 16 November 2016 (UTC)