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Edits made to !votes
Please look at these five diffs:      I believe that these are improper edits. You closed one of the AfDs, so you are a logical administrator to review these. Thank you, Unscintillating (talk) 14:01, 1 October 2017 (UTC)
 * All of these !votes were made by which was blocked for AfD spamming per this ANI report. I don't dabble in vandalism management but for the record none of these !votes appears to be grounded in policy or even guideline. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 14:09, 1 October 2017 (UTC)

redirected article
Hey, first of all thank you for reviewing my page Nancy Ajram: Greatest Hits. I saw that you have redirected it to Nancy Ajram. The article was about an official "Greatest Hits" album by the singer and I provided reliable sources to it. I have read the policy and still don't understand why it has been redirected to the singer's main article. Can you please return it back as an article and I will fix it to fit Wikipedia policy? Thank you so much. (NAOFC (talk) 09:21, 2 October 2017 (UTC))
 * Greetings, . People here thought that there aren't enough sources talking about the album to justify an article. Such sources would have to be a) reliable (not user generated, for one thing) and b) somewhat substantial. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 14:49, 2 October 2017 (UTC)

Taciana Davidson
Hi Jo-Jo, thank you for reviewing the page User:Raymarkadamos/Taciana Davidson. can you move this back to my draft since I will be editing it adding more liable sources. I dont wanna start from scratch again.. thank you.Raymarkadamos (talk) 09:07, 2 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Done, but I strongly recommend that you either remove or source all the unsourced text in the draft right away. We heavily frown on such material in biographies of living people. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 14:49, 2 October 2017 (UTC)

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Oriental Empires
[] Hi I want to make this page again, it was deleted in January. The game has been in Early Access for a while and was recently released and it significant attention following its release - I think it is noticeable enough to have its own page now. — Preceding unsigned comment added by WikiNiels13 (talk • contribs)
 * Greetings. Does "significant attention" mean that multiple sources with a reputation for fact checking and accuracy are reporting on the game now? Because that is the requirement for it to have an article (Notability (video games) might also help) Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 14:59, 3 October 2017 (UTC)

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Page Deletion Mike Shaikh
Further to our previous discussion, currently Mike Shaikh is legally elected senator. His current title is Senator Elect. I am advocating on his behalf with his permission. Please restore his page or advise as to how we may proceed with the restoration. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Conquesttraining (talk • contribs) 20:35, 4 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Um, I don't see anything in the news about their status changing. Are they now formally appointed and seated? Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 21:27, 4 October 2017 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Revolutionary Communist Party, USA
There were no !votes for deletion here, so am I right to assume that your "delete" close is a technical error of some sort? Best, --Arxiloxos (talk) 20:53, 4 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Huh - I am fairly sure that I clicked "keep" and the page was in fact kept. I've backed out the close and implanted the correct one. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 21:25, 4 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Slight matter of the talk page history? thanks -- zzuuzz (talk) 21:28, 4 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Got that too as well as a couple of redirects. Need to get into the habit of re-reading the AfD log after a close... Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 21:33, 4 October 2017 (UTC)

WikiProject Women in Red/The World Contest
Hi. Thankyou for your participation in the challenge series or/and contests. In November The Women in Red World Contest is being held to try to produce new articles for as many countries worldwide and occupations as possible. There will be over $4000 in prizes to win, including Amazon vouchers and paid subscriptions. If this would appeal to you and you think you'd be interested in contributing new articles on women during this month for your region or wherever please sign up in the participants section. The articles done may also count towards the ongoing challenge. If you're not interested in prize money yourself but are willing to participate and raise money to buy books about women for others to use, this is also fine. Help would also be appreciated in drawing up the lists of missing articles. If you think of any missing articles please add them to the sub lists by continent at Missing articles. Thankyou, and if taking part, good luck!♦ Dr. Blofeld  08:50, 5 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks, but I really do not work on biographies. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 14:48, 5 October 2017 (UTC)

Deletion of page : Ritam Banerjee
Hello Jo-Jo,

This is in reference to the deleted page for Ritam Banerjee. I am interested in reviving it with valid citations and updated content from the last 1 year since it was deleted. Would like to know if you can help in providing some exact reasons for deletion.

Thanks and Regards, Dev — Preceding unsigned comment added by Devleenas (talk • contribs) 14:31, 8 October 2017 (UTC)


 * Greetings. Since you evidently find out that it was me who deleted Ritam Banerjee you may have noticed a link to this page where a number of people argued that too many sources that discuss the topic are a) self-published or b) unreliable. We cannot have articles without sources that are reliable. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 14:38, 8 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Edited previous post as it was completely wrong. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 18:30, 8 October 2017 (UTC)

Request
Hello, Jo-jo! I was wondering if you would like to give the common loon's FAC an image review. Thank you very much in either cases, and have a great day! :D Adityavagarwal (talk) 17:57, 8 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Greetings! So done. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 19:28, 8 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks a lot buddy! Have a great day. :D Adityavagarwal (talk) 02:19, 9 October 2017 (UTC)

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Deletion and incoming links
Hello! I saw you deleted an article about Scott Winkler. Would you please also remove all incoming links, as the article will never merit recreation. (This should be done by the deleter in general.) I took down a handful. Geschichte (talk) 18:02, 9 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Greetings. I am reticent on removing links as it's never clear when a link will be useful or not - for all we know the topic will become notable in the future. (I take that this is about Scott Winkler (ice hockey)). Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 18:26, 9 October 2017 (UTC)

March (territorial entity)
Hello, Jo-Jo Eumerus – I noticed  to March (territorial entity). Do these need a source? – Corinne (talk) 15:15, 9 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Greetings. Given WP:UNSOURCED I'd say that it doesn't need to unless there is legit doubt that these polities can be described as "marches". Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 15:27, 9 October 2017 (UTC)
 * O.K. Thanks! – Corinne (talk) 21:11, 9 October 2017 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Lascar (volcano)
The article Lascar (volcano) you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Lascar (volcano) for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already been on the main page as an "In the news" or "Did you know" item, you can nominate it to appear in Did you know. AdA&D 14:01, 11 October 2017 (UTC)

List of video game console launch games - Didn't get deleted
XFD Closer didn't work right on this one: List of video game console launch games. Zero Serenity (talk - contributions) 19:54, 11 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Yay. Did it manually now. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 20:04, 11 October 2017 (UTC)

Deletion of article for Günter Bechly
Hi Jo-Jo, There's an article circulating on the Internet complaining that you deleted the page for Günter Bechly. He seems to be a reputable paleontologist with a considerable following. Was there a particular problem that you found with the article? Jerry — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:306:80c5:93f0:5125:8f5d:fa88:1d60 (talk • contribs)
 * Greetings, 2602:306:80c5:93f0:5125:8f5d:fa88:1d60. A number of people on this page had concerns that the criteria we require article topics to satisfy were not met. For a person to have an article, multiple independent reliable sources need to exist which talk specifically about this person. It seems like we couldn't find any for Mr. Bechly, and having a number of species named after oneself is not a substitute. I personally have no opinion about the topic, but under policy if such concerns are raised and the article proposed for deletion, they must be addressed or the article will be removed. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 20:43, 11 October 2017 (UTC)

Maybe it's because you were looking for Mr. Bechly when it's actually Dr Bechly, a notable paleontologist. I would like the information restored with links to his scholarly articles please.

This may help: https://scholar.google.com/citations?user=byMvnWsAAAAJ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2605:a000:bd43:ce00:40ac:e859:eebd:5a89 (talk • contribs)
 * No, that won't help. The sources need to be about him not by him. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 15:03, 12 October 2017 (UTC)

Page Deletion Mike Shaikh
Mr. Shaikh's elected position is Senator-Elect. Next year when an Alberta Senate seat becomes available he will be appointed Senator. Conquesttraining (talk) 04:40, 12 October 2017 (UTC)
 * As I recommended, writing an article then might be a better idea. I am not well versed with Canadian politics and the AfD suggests that not all senators-elect go on to become actual senators (c.f ). Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 15:08, 12 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your advice. I dont believe I meet Wikipedias criteria for posting an article.  Is it possible to repost the previous article so that I may provide edits.  As I stated earlier, I have resources to support the facts.  Conquesttraining (talk) 20:03, 12 October 2017 (UTC)
 * I've merged this header into the previous one, as you don't need to write a new header for each post. I'll drafify the text to Draft:Mike Shaikh. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 20:19, 12 October 2017 (UTC)

new article of elnaz golrokh
hi there, hope you are doing well please check my sand box and if it's possible for you confirm this new article i can provide more refrences and add more content if you accept this thank you so much dear Melody.nabavi (talk) 19:33, 14 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Greetings, The references look better than what was there before but I can't say I can easily gauge how reliable they are. Perhaps a trip through Articles for creation would be warranted. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 09:11, 15 October 2017 (UTC)

Shahid Buttar
Why did you delete my article on Shahid Buttar? Were the seventeen sources I provided not enough to establish notability? Benjamin (talk) 06:20, 15 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Greetings, People here evidently didn't think so. Apparently a number of these were unreliable sources. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 09:08, 15 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Which ones, and why? Benjamin (talk) 09:09, 15 October 2017 (UTC)
 * can probably answer the questions better. However, too many of the sources appear to be self-published (Twitter, the subject's own website etc.) or appear to merely record the statements by Mr. Buttar without talking much about him. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 09:22, 15 October 2017 (UTC)

Bowie Seamount
I just restored information you deleted in this article. I suggest you find sources to back up the text instead of just deleting it.  Volcano guy  13:31, 15 October 2017 (UTC)
 * I did not find anything to support these statements. Maybe you have more luck/more access to sources than I do but you cannot expect other people to have the same source access as you. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 14:02, 15 October 2017 (UTC)

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Message
Just letting you know:. — JudeccaXIII (talk) 05:11, 13 October 2017 (UTC)
 * It does illustrate that the word "notability" is not clear to many, seems like. And I am astonished that someone who has a number of species named after them isn't notable. JoJo Eumerus mobile (talk) 07:02, 13 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Adding: Talk:Günter Bechly was recreated (only the talk page, to ask what was up, I'm not sure if I should tag it for deletion or with a previous AfD template and leave it there)... Thanks, — Paleo  Neonate  – 15:24, 13 October 2017 (UTC)
 * I think tagging it for G8 deletion is the way to go. It isn't that urgent, either. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 15:27, 13 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Thank you, someone else just G8 tagged it before I got to it (I wanted to wait a day or so because of the message's reply). — Paleo  Neonate  – 07:47, 14 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Hey, I wonder where I could find the changelog and talk page for the now deleted article? I see you wrote that the talk page was recreated, but all I see is the deleted one. My interest in the changelog and talk page is purely academic and none of the instructions I found for accessing deleted pages seem to work Wikigenstein (talk) 14:20, 16 October 2017 (UTC)
 * I presume you could ask on WP:REFUND. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 14:55, 16 October 2017 (UTC)
 * yes the recreated talk page was a new page so had no relation to the previous one and its history (and may have itself already have been deleted too when you visited its address). — Paleo  Neonate  – 16:13, 16 October 2017 (UTC)

Lee Dae-yeol
Hello, yesterday you deleted Lee Dae-yeol per Articles for deletion/Lee Dae-yeol and I just want to make you aware that it has immediately been created again. Abdotorg (talk) 12:26, 20 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Greetings, I see someone already tagged it for deletion as a repost. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 15:50, 20 October 2017 (UTC)

Jacob barnett
Hi Jo-Jo! I see you closed Articles for deletion/Jacob Barnett (4th nomination), and thought you might be interested in the new Jacob barnett article (note the lower case last name). Thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 20:32, 20 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Content is completely different, but it doesn't seem like the concerns in the AFD have been resolved. Imma tag for deletion as G4. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 20:37, 20 October 2017 (UTC)

Articles for deletion/Woodward Camp
Could you undelete the redirect Camp Woodward? Thanks. WikiOriginal-9 (talk) 17:55, 20 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Might make more sense to ask as they did perform the second deletion. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 19:17, 20 October 2017 (UTC)
 * I assume that this was deleted as a part of the deletion of the now restored Woodward Camp. It isn't protected and there was never anything at that page other than the redirect, so you should be good to recreate it.  Lankiveil (speak to me) 23:56, 20 October 2017 (UTC).
 * I was mainly requesting undeletion to save the history. WikiOriginal-9 (talk) 00:32, 21 October 2017 (UTC)
 * There really isn't any history. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 11:13, 21 October 2017 (UTC)

DYK for Lascar (volcano)
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Quick comment
I don't have a problem with https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/List_of_schools_in_Jamaica_(2nd_nomination) which was nothing like the page envisaged when I started the article 12 years ago but I think perhaps you should have insisted that they looked at all the "Lists of Schools in" pages, of which there were hundreds, per WP:Lists, if that still exists as a policy

--BozMo talk 13:52, 23 October 2017 (UTC)
 * I do not generally think of other articles that aren't in scope of a given AfD but are worth discussing anyway when closing it; pinging who may be interested however. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 14:56, 23 October 2017 (UTC)

The company behind me/we
Jo Jo, I read that you deleted an article about Sgrouples Inc., the company behind me/we. Can you tell me where I might learn more about this company? Page Notes (talk) 14:15, 23 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Aye, it was deleted per this discussion. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 14:54, 23 October 2017 (UTC)
 * If you are asking about the company, the website might be a good start. As for Wikipedia's article, people in the discussion noted there is apparently no indication that sufficient reliable independent third-party coverage exists to justify an article. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 15:27, 23 October 2017 (UTC)

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Additional sources to use for Lascar
And in addition, the Google News search for is useful. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 16:55, 24 October 2017 (UTC)
 * http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0377027316303614
 * http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/2016JB013320/abstract
 * https://arxiv.org/abs/1605.07889 (mind that it's essentially self published)
 * http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0377027317303748
 * http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S037702731630066X
 * http://bibliotecadigital.ciren.cl/handle/123456789/26184
 * http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0273117716300527
 * https://volcano.si.edu/volcano.cfm?vn=355100

Page Deletion explanation?
Hi Jo-Jo, I am following the steps in the deletion review "please attempt to discuss the matter with the closing admin as this could resolve the matter more quickly". Forgive me if I'm in the wrong place I am new to messaging via Wikipedia. The article page Essential Beauty was deleted this month, I am trying to understand why? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Essential_Beauty 22:49, 23 October 2017 (UTC)EssentialBeauty (talk)
 * Greetings, . As people noted in the discussion you linked nobody seems to be talking about the group the page was about, which makes it not notable in Wikipedia's terms. Incidentally, it's not a good idea to pick an username that is the same as the name of an organization. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 15:25, 24 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your tip on the username, I've fixed it. can you tell me what it would take for a group (company) with over 25 years history and employing hundreds of people across 70+ locations throughout Australia to be notable in the eyes of Wikipedia? We've been active on Wikipedia for a long time and use this space to share our history, achievements and progress, it was so disappointing to see it all deleted. Am I able to retrieve our old article content to use as a potential starting point for a re-write? Thanks in advance! JonD(AUS) (talk) 22:54, 24 October 2017 (UTC)
 * WP:NCORP explains some of the criteria. To make it brief, if other people with a reputation for accuracy (say, a major newspaper) who are not connected with your company have written substantial text about you, then an article is acceptable. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 14:49, 25 October 2017 (UTC)

DYK for Arago hotspot
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Reason for deletion of my wikipedia page
Hi Jo-Jo Eumerus,

I would like to know the reason why a wikipedia page has been deleted - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rizwan_Koita.

It was active for a long time until it was deleted recently. Please let me know how do I get this page back up.

Thanks, Edgar Stephens — Preceding unsigned comment added by Edgarjstephens (talk • contribs)
 * Greetings, Mr. Stephens. People in this discussion claimed there is not enough written about Koita to justify an article on them. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 15:56, 26 October 2017 (UTC)

Path Solutions Deletion
Hi Jo-Jo, hope you're having a good Friday morning. I am new to Wikipedia so I am sorry if this is the wrong way to reach you or inappropriate. I was asked by someone I know to look at the page for a company they work at that got deleted. I make websites so apparently they think I know about Wikipedia too! I finally found the place the deletion was mentioned which had your name by it as the person doing the deletion: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Path_Solutions From what I understand, they had a bunch of content on there that was kind of spammy like an advertisement, and a lack of references. I think they were in the process of changing that with better sources and content and the page got deleted, then they had someone else try to make a new page this week and that one got deleted because of this original deletion. However in looking at the people who suggested it be deleted, they actually referenced a different company by a similar name at this website: https://www.pathsolutions.com/company/news/ But the Path Solutions page that got deleted is based in Kuwait and working in Europe/Middle East/African countries, and isn't the same company, their website is here: http://www.path-solutions.com/ So it seems they may not have gotten a fair review since the reviewer was looking at the wrong company! They haven't given me money (I saw on Wikipedia I have to disclose that) and I don't plan to ask for any to help (which is why this is a Friday project during some end of week free time!), right now I am wanting to understand better how Wikipedia works and thought it'd be a good chance to try with this one before trying to help on other articles on WikiPedia. If it is possible to restore this page because of that error from the recommender let me know, I was trying to find out the process on Wikipedia and it said to talk to the admin who deleted it first.

Thanks again!

- Dan

Prospectiveperspectives (talk) 12:09, 27 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Greetings, . First off, contacting other people on Wikipedia is what "User talk" pages are for, so you are on the right path here. Now for the article, the problem I see is that even if the participants in the deletion discussion you referenced got the company wrong, that does not automatically means it can be recreated; the article that was deleted (minus a bunch of copyright violations) was essentially an unsourced lead sentence plus a fairly spammy list. I think it may be better to recreate the article from scratch, using Articles for creation. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 14:56, 27 October 2017 (UTC)


 * Thanks I think you are right, recreating that one would be better. Sounds like a good weekend project! Once I try to publish it, do I need to put a notice on there that it is a new page to replace one that was deleted before, so it doesn't end up being deleted as a duplicate of a page that was deleted before? I saw that the G4 criteria could apply to this particular page. Thanks! Prospectiveperspectives (talk) 16:32, 27 October 2017 (UTC)


 * That's why I suggest that you use the Articles for creation process. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 16:35, 27 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Got it, I will start there. Thanks much!

Prospectiveperspectives (talk) 21:10, 27 October 2017 (UTC)

An article mentioning you
I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but I thought you should know EvolutionNews.org is bashing you. I think they're trying to prove some point about Wikipedia users' immaturity. It's a poorly written article with poor research. Sorry about that. You seem like a nice guy. Eucalyptine (talk) 23:10, 27 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Fortunately, that's only propaganda from an unreliable source. — Paleo  Neonate  – 01:25, 28 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Second time that article's been mentioned here. They certainly got my background right but a) the job of a closing admin is to assess the consensus in the discussion and not the merits of the article topic, and any human being of any education can perform this duty, b) deleting a Wikipedia article is not "erasing" someone and c) that source needs to spend more time reading Notability and less time fishing around in people's backgrounds for stuff that doesn't affect the article's standing in one way or another.
 * The only point I could see here is that using the name "notability" for our inclusion guidelines is ambiguous - certainly if Mr. Bechly has that many species named after him he is "notable" within the sense a number of people would use, just not in Wikipedia's terms. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 09:01, 28 October 2017 (UTC)

Thanking you for the info
Hi, thanks for the info you have given me. Was the Death of Aisling Symes deleted because of a lack of sources? Davidgoodheart (talk) 06:03, 28 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Greetings. No, it was deleted (not by me) because it was judged to be too much newspaper like. Wikipedia does not aim to record every accidental death and this one was one. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 09:03, 28 October 2017 (UTC)