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Tech News: 2021-37
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Cumbre Vieja tsunami hazard
Seems like |Tarrare the last five days have seen a steep increase in readership numbers on that article. Wonder what's been driving it and if the article as-is is providing good service to readers... Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 12:25, 17 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks again for the DYK review! I was actually just reading that article, and looking at who wrote it, to find it was you. The reason is that there is currently potential volcanic activity in the area - currently only an increase in earthquakes (up to 3.3 or so), and about a 10cm rising of the land in the area, no magma reaching the surface. For an example news report, see or . I've been watching this because I live on the next island over (Tenerife), and I'm probably going to be visiting La Palma in a few weeks time...
 * With the article, I think it over-describes the dramatic part of the analysis, and doesn't present the counter-views clearly enough, particularly in the lead. That's true both for the main article, and Cumbre Vieja (which has too much weight on the tsunami risk - most of that should be moved into the specific article). I think it's particularly important if the volcanic activity develops further, as then there would be a *lot* more attention on the article, as there would be a lot more media attention (there's already been some...). I'll try to help a bit with this soon. Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 19:17, 17 September 2021 (UTC)
 * I would probably not move anything from Cumbre Vieja to Cumbre Vieja tsunami hazard, myself - it seems like it's mostly the same information as already in our article but more poorly written. I've taken an initial stab at emphasizing the critique in the lead section but I wonder if a better structure would help in the rest of the article at achieving the same goal - I am not sure the current format is the ideal one. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 09:25, 18 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Expect a lot more attention on this over the next few days - it erupted this afternoon. Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 15:01, 19 September 2021 (UTC)
 * I see, thanks for noting this. Say,, is there something like an official volcano observatory that deals with Cumbre Vieja? I can't find it on a quick search. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 15:20, 19 September 2021 (UTC)
 * INVOLCAN. Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 15:22, 19 September 2021 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

 * Um, thanks, but I am pretty sure I have never designed any graphics here... Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 08:42, 17 September 2021 (UTC)
 * I wanted to give a barnstar, I never noticed which class it is. :) leave it. Rahul SomanDiscussions - contribs 21:56, 19 September 2021 (UTC)

(For talk page readers) Featured article candidacy input request
El Tatio has been nominated as a Featured article candidate here to see if it satisfies these criteria; feel free to comment as the nomination will be archived if it gets no input. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 07:26, 20 September 2021 (UTC)

Tech News: 2021-38
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 * Growth features are now deployed to almost all Wikipedias. For the majority of small Wikipedias, the features are only available for experienced users, to test the features and configure them. Features will be available for newcomers starting on 20 September 2021.
 * MediaWiki had a feature that would highlight local links to short articles in a different style. Each user could pick the size at which "stubs" would be highlighted. This feature was very bad for performance, and following a consultation, has been removed.
 * A technical change was made to the MonoBook skin to allow for easier maintenance and upkeep. This has resulted in some minor changes to HTML that make MonoBook's HTML consistent with other skins. Efforts have been made to minimize the impact on editors, but please ping Jon (WMF) on wiki or in phabricator if any problems are reported.

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18:30, 20 September 2021 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Yonaguni Knoll IV
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Your GA nomination of Yonaguni Knoll IV
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Tech News: 2021-39
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 * iOS 15 has a new function called Private Relay (Apple website). This can hide the user's IP when they use Safari browser. This is like using a VPN in that we see another IP address instead. It is opt-in and only for those who pay extra for iCloud. It will come to Safari users on OSX later. There is a technical discussion about what this means for the Wikimedia wikis.

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22:20, 27 September 2021 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Lake San Agustín
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Sustainable energy
Hiya. I don't know whether you're interested in renewables more generally, but if you are, can I tempt you to review sustainable energy at Featured article candidates/Sustainable energy/archive1? FemkeMilene (talk) 19:33, 1 October 2021 (UTC)

Note to self...
Hat-tip goes to at WP:ANI In terms of byte-size, African humid period clocks in at a mere 0.45MB, between 's and 's talk pages and actually less than Wikipedia's 0.61MB. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 20:46, 2 October 2021 (UTC)
 * I'm wearily familiar with delivering that particular explanation, following the wars over User talk:EEng. The amount of text on a page is virtually irrelevant when it comes to server/browser load; even the most antiquated laptop can download and format an entire novel without any difficulty. What causes problems is fancy templates that invoke a ton of markup, and images (particularly gif files as Mediawiki doesn't automatically resize them but instead sends the full-size image to your browser and tells your cmputer to reformat it locally). Running pages through whatdoesmysitecost is often an eye-opening experience—because most Wikipedia editors are working on fixed, unlimited connections, it's easy to forget that graphic-and-formatting-heavy pages like Israel can be a significant expense to readers. (This is going to become an increasing issue for en-wiki, as Brexit has meant the return of roaming data charges for UK-based readers accessing Wikipedia from the EU/EEA.) &#8209; Iridescent 08:58, 3 October 2021 (UTC)
 * What I found eye-opening - and in light of my firm opposition to splitting African humid period, good - is that AHP despite being slightly longer than Wikipedia and having twice as many references in raw prose size consumes less bandwidth. Wonder why that is. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 11:29, 3 October 2021 (UTC)
 * If you drill down into the details page on the 'full results' tab, (African Humid Period, Wikipedia; the link from the main results page isnt obvious and is buried under "Want to make things better?") you can see what's actually causing the server and processor load. Unsurprisingly, it's the number of images that makes Wikipedia such a drain. &#8209; Iridescent 12:51, 3 October 2021 (UTC)
 * If you drill down into the details page on the 'full results' tab, (African Humid Period, Wikipedia; the link from the main results page isnt obvious and is buried under "Want to make things better?") you can see what's actually causing the server and processor load. Unsurprisingly, it's the number of images that makes Wikipedia such a drain. &#8209; Iridescent 12:51, 3 October 2021 (UTC)
 * If you drill down into the details page on the 'full results' tab, (African Humid Period, Wikipedia; the link from the main results page isnt obvious and is buried under "Want to make things better?") you can see what's actually causing the server and processor load. Unsurprisingly, it's the number of images that makes Wikipedia such a drain. &#8209; Iridescent 12:51, 3 October 2021 (UTC)

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DYK for Yonaguni Knoll IV
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 * Your hook got 20,505 views (854 per hour), making it one of the most viewed hooks of October 2021—keep up the great work! theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (they/them) 03:14, 7 October 2021 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Salar Ignorado
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DYK for Rodwell–Hoskins mechanism
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Your GA nomination of Salar Ignorado
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RfA 2021 review update
Thanks so much for participating in Phase 1 of the RfA 2021 review. 8 out of the 21 issues discussed were found to have consensus. Thanks to our closers of Phase 1, and.

The following had consensus support of participating editors:
 * 1) Corrosive RfA atmosphere
 * The atmosphere at RfA is deeply unpleasant. This makes it so fewer candidates wish to run and also means that some members of our community don't comment/vote.
 * 1) Level of scrutiny
 * Many editors believe it would be unpleasant to have so much attention focused on them. This includes being indirectly a part of watchlists and editors going through your edit history with the chance that some event, possibly a relatively trivial event, becomes the focus of editor discussion for up to a week.
 * 1) Standards needed to pass keep rising
 * It used to be far easier to pass RfA however the standards necessary to pass have continued to rise such that only "perfect" candidates will pass now.
 * 1) Too few candidates
 * There are too few candidates. This not only limits the number of new admin we get but also makes it harder to identify other RfA issues because we have such a small sample size.
 * 1) "No need for the tools" is a poor reason as we can find work for new admins

The following issues had a rough consensus of support from editors: 1. Lifetime tenure (high stakes atmosphere) Because RfA carries with it lifetime tenure, granting any given editor sysop feels incredibly important. This creates a risk adverse and high stakes atmosphere.

2. Admin permissions and unbundling There is a large gap between the permissions an editor can obtain and the admin toolset. This brings increased scrutiny for RFA candidates, as editors evaluate their feasibility in lots of areas.

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15:29, 11 October 2021 (UTC)

Gabbro question
Jo-Jo, I'm hoping you can answer a geology question for me. I just stubbed British Neolithic pottery, including a comment about one group of pots coming from an area of gabbroic clay in Cornwall. Looking at our article on gabbro I can make no sense of this -- gabbro is a hard rock. Does gabbroic in this sort of context mean that there are tiny fragments of rock in clay that can be identified as gabbro? That would mean that the pots can be section and the rock identified under a microscope, so I could see that making sense. The pots all come from a particular area, so presumably the gabbro involved has to be unique in some way so other sources of the clay can be discounted. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 17:40, 11 October 2021 (UTC)

Close location
Hi Jo-Jo! I recently came across your close here. Writing just A closure statement will be posted on the talk page makes it very difficult to find the actual closure statement and separates it from the discussion it is actually closing. Could you please at least add a link to the statement? (This is coming up because there's a new related discussion, and I can't tell whether it's valid or just churning up a settled debate without reading the past discussion.) Cheers, &#123;{u&#124; Sdkb  }&#125;  talk 17:50, 11 October 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Fixed anvil temperature hypothesis
Cwmhiraeth (talk) 00:02, 12 October 2021 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Lake San Agustín
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Deletion review for Round World version of the Silmarillion
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Uturuncu scheduled for TFA
This is to let you know that the above article has been scheduled as today's featured article for 24 November 2021. Please check that the article needs no amendments. Feel free to comment on the draft blurb at TFA. I suggest that you watchlist Main Page/Errors from the day before this appears on Main Page. Thanks and congratulations on your work. Gog the Mild (talk) 17:15, 16 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Er, where is the draft blurb? Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 08:24, 17 October 2021 (UTC)
 * it's at Today's featured article/November 24, 2021. Cheers &mdash; Amakuru (talk) 08:44, 17 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks, it seems good to me. Note that I do the yearly update of all my articles including Uturuncu during/after the Christmas holidays, so it may be slightly out of date in November. I don't think there is any date that has specific importance for Uturuncu so I have no opinion on the exact day. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 09:00, 17 October 2021 (UTC)

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20:52, 18 October 2021 (UTC)

Tommaso Besozzi image
So, after more than 11 years since I uploaded this image File:Tommaso Besozzi.jpg, you have decided to delete it. I don't know why you decided to do so and I am not even going to bother to challenge it, because I am going to lose that battle anyway, given that you have already decided that this non-free image is a terrible crime. You probably have followed all the bureaucratically right procedures and whatever I say will be dismissed. Fine, you won ...

The question is do the people who consider Wikipedia a reliable source of knowledge also win? I don't think so, because, and in particular with his image, an image gives readers something extra, and in this particular image that does reflect something of the despair that in the end led to the Mr Besozzi to commit suicide, they gain something extra. That said, you probably did not even bother to read the article ...

So, go ahead, just delete the image and pretend to feel you have contributed to Wikipedia. Frankly, I happen to disagree. You could also have decided to just ignore the obvious copy-right violations, and look the other way. In the past 11 years did anyone ever had a problem with this image, did anyone ever legally challenged it? I doubt that, but, please, prove me wrong. So, delete the image, no one is going to be upset if you do, and you have won your easy victory. Congratulations. And you can simply delete this message on your talk page, anyway ... User:DonCalo
 * Uh, what? I didn't delete it, I proposed it for deletion. Not the same thing. And the reason the image is up for deletion is because we already have commons:File:Tommaso Besozzi.jpg which will automagically appear if the local version under the same name is deleted. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 07:07, 20 October 2021 (UTC)


 * Sorry, my apologies, I did not understand that the same image was available at Wikicommons, so indeed it makes sense to delete it from Wikpedia. Once again, sorry for the misunderstanding. DonCalo (talk) 14:14, 20 October 2021 (UTC)

Disambiguation link notification for October 24
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 * That's done, bot. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 09:07, 24 October 2021 (UTC)

Merger discussion for Fumarole mineral
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Tech News: 2021-43
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 * The Coolest Tool Award 2021 is looking for nominations. You can recommend tools until 27 October.

Changes later this week
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from . It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from . It will be on all wikis from (calendar).

Future changes
 * Diff pages will have an improved copy and pasting experience. The changes will allow the text in the diff for before and after to be treated as separate columns and will remove any unwanted syntax.
 * The version of the Liberation fonts used in SVG files will be upgraded. Only new thumbnails will be affected. Liberation Sans Narrow will not change.

Meetings
 * You can join a meeting about the Community Wishlist Survey. News about the disambiguation and the real-time preview wishes will be shown. The event will take place on Wednesday, 27 October at 14:30 UTC. See how to join.

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