User talk:Jo-anna

Welcome!
WELCOME!! Hello, ! I want to personally welcome you on behalf of the Wikipedia community. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. If you haven't already, you can put yourself new user log and list of users so you can be properly introduced to everyone. Don't forget to be bold, and don't be afraid of hungry Wikipedians...there's a rule about not biting newcomers. Some other good links are the tutorial, how to edit a page, or if you're really stuck, see the help pages. If you have any questions, feel free to drop me a ♪ at my talk page (by clicking the plus sign (+) next to the tab at the top that says "edit this page")...and again, welcome!-- Violin Girl ♪ 16:40, 13 December 2005 (UTC)

P.S. I forgot to mention! It would be really helpful if you would sign your name on talk pages, so people can get back to you quickly. It's easy to do this by clicking the button (next to the one with the "W" crossed out) one from the end on the left. (It looks like some scribble marks.) If that's confusing, feel free to shout at me for help! See you around!

Deletion
Sorry, but I have proposed your autobio for deletion. See the Autobiography page for why autobiographies can be a problem. You may want to print out a copy for yourself before it's gone. I believe the general guideline for academics is that they must be approximately as notable as a university professor. However, even if your article is deleted, you can still make your mark on Wikipedia by contributing to the articles that interest you. I encourage you not to be disappointed, and to keep on Wiki-ing. --Unforgettableid | talk to me 07:52, 15 December 2005 (UTC)


 * Hi. This is pretty rude. Being a graduate student usually entails being an instructor. I am currently a research assistant - teaching assistant was an option I turned down in favour of this. I will remake my page when I have my PhD, when I am considered "notable" by your judgment! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jo-anna (talk • contribs) 13:21, 18 December 2005


 * Whoa. The message you left me is quite strongly written. (I did not delete your autobiographical article. Two Wikipedia administrators did.) I know that it's harsh, having a page which you worked hard to write suddenly be deleted. I also now realize that it was rude and tactless of me to mention the PhD guideline from the WP:NN page. All I can do is apologize and try to explain. Ever since the John Siegenthaler Sr. article brouhaha that got in the NY Times, CNN, etc., we've had to be more careful about what goes up on Wikipedia. If a page is left alone and nobody visits it, it can have subtle vandalism added, getting us in trouble. As well, Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, and it is difficult to verify biographical articles on most people. The WP:NN guidelines are arbitrary, but they are used to say: "OK, if you're a professor, you can get an encyclopedia article on you, b/c it'll get enough traffic to be verified." But grad students (I'm good friends with a grad student in Toronto going for his PhD) are cut off by the guidelines. I know, it's frustrating, and there's nothing I can say other than that Wikipedia is an encyclopedia and I have nothing against you personally -- I don't know you -- I'm just trying to make sure that what belongs in an online encyclopedia because it is verifiable, belongs, and other articles, sadly, are often deleted. --Unforgettableid | talk to me 15:50, 19 December 2005 (UTC)