User talk:Joaopais/archive1

olá
João, existe uma wikipedia em português participa lá, mas aprende o espirito de comunidade :) pt.wikipédia.org Participa, escrevendo claro :P. Tu vieste a atacar, meteste logo tudo o que é relacionado com lusofonia para featured article. é um maluco. E, inventaste essa da historia. Ai, ai! Abração. -Pedro 23:08, 29 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Manual of style
Hi, I noticed you've been adding several new articles. You probably should take a look at Manual of style to familiarize yourself with a few things that are standard across articles. Especially note that the first occurence of the title in the article should be bolded, as should the first occurence any alternate names for the title. &mdash; siro &chi;  o  02:10, Aug 31, 2004 (UTC)


 * tks--Joao Campos 02:12, 31 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Response to WikiAwards proposal
Hi Joaopais, from the looks of Wikipedia talk:WikiProject WikiAwards, it looks like you've met the opposition that I alluded to earlier. For your sake, I'm sorry that it went this way, but in truth this is probably for the best. (In all honesty, I'm disappointed at the general tone of the response, which I would have expected to be a bit more civil. Responses like this can sour people to Wikipedia, but I encourage you to stick around -- you're definitely a worthwhile editor, and your contributions are very much appreciated.) If you still want to pursue the offsite WikiAwards idea, just let me know and I can help you get started. Best wishes, Diberri | Talk 20:04, Sep 1, 2004 (UTC)


 * Thanks Diberri. I gave up the idea some days ago. By now I'm not interested in the project, perhaps later I'll try the offsite alternative. If you want start it yourself, it is not a copyrighted idea, be free to do so. And don't worry, I'm sure I'm going to stick around for many years. --Joao Campos 03:21, 6 Sep 2004 (UTC)


 * You're very welcome. Glad you decided to stick around :-) Best, Diberri | Talk 05:58, Sep 6, 2004 (UTC)

Template for deletion - Template:Portuguese former colonies
Hello Joaopais. This template on former colonies of Portugal has been listed at Wikipedia:Templates for deletion by Jiang for some time. There is a discussion on whether templates of such kind should be removed. Your comment would be very helpful to the discussion. You may also be interested to have a look on the vfd of Template:Former British colonies. &mdash; Instantnood 16:35, Feb 10 2005 (UTC)

Image:Ferro Coutinho.jpg
Thank you for uploading Image:Ferro Coutinho.jpg. Its copyright status is unclear, so it may have to be deleted. Please leave a note on the image page about the source of the image. Thank you. --Kevin McManus 21:43, Jun 17, 2005 (UTC)

John III of Portugal on FAC/Peer review
Hi, Joaopais. I see you've now put John III of Portugal on peer review, I hope you get good input there. I've removed the article from FAC for now, as it's not supposed to be in both places at once. I hope you don't mind, and whenever you feel it's ready for FAC, do please just put it back. Best wishes, Bishonen | talk 10:14, 12 July 2005 (UTC).

Hi, Gameiro. Thank you for your nomination on WP:IDRIVE. I hope it wins, but if it fails, you can then list it at the Biography Collaboration of the Week. (Right now the biography page is full of nominations, so I would wait.) You have also asked for help in proofreading the translation, so I wanted to point you to a page where you can list articles that you may have translated and want proofread: Translations into English has a section on the bottom, where you can list any translated article to be read and corrected. Best wishes, --Fenice 08:52, 13 July 2005 (UTC)


 * Thanks. I'm really decided to make it a featured article. --Gameiro 12:31, 13 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Não estou com muito tempo disponível. E, confesso não ter muito interesse em figuras individuais. Estou mais interessado em história de forma alargada, ou seja, em épocas. Mas vou ver o que posso fazer. No entanto, vi que o artigo está interessante, com relações euro-africanas e euro-asiáticas. A ideia que eu tenho de uma biografia, é que é uma fofoca dea vida de uma pessoa. --Pedro 12:29, 15 July 2005 (UTC)

TfD nomination of Template:Football_in_Portugal
Template:Football_in_Portugal has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at Templates for deletion. Thank you. wS;✉ 01:39, 9 August 2005 (UTC)

John III of Portugal
I have renominated John III of Portugal at the Biography Collaboration, so it gets the (mainly linguistic) attention needed to become featured quality. This collaboration does not get as much attention as the WP:IDRIVE but maybe someone will help copyedit. Vote can for this article here. --Fenice 12:06, 14 August 2005 (UTC)

Convite
Olá Joaopais! Não quererás participar nas discussões em curso em Talk:Timeline of the Muslim Occupation of Spain e Talk:Roman Spain? A questão que aí se coloca, como poderás ver, é a da utilização da palavra "Spain", com todo o que isso implica, para designar toda a Península Ibérica em qualquer momento da sua história. Participa como te aprover! The Ogre 11:14, 19 August 2005 (UTC)

User pages
Glad to be of service! I do wonder sometimes if my football index is worth all the bother of keeping it updated, but if people find it useful, then I'm sure I can keep it going for a bit longer :) sjorford &rarr;&bull;&larr; 21:39, 21 August 2005 (UTC)

Map of Portuguese Empire
Hello João Pais! You have messages in Talk:Portuguese Empire. Excellent user pages. Keep up the good work! The Ogre 16:38, 23 August 2005 (UTC)

Island name
I notice that recently you edited the Fernão do Pó article, and chose to put back some material that I had removed. I guess this was inappropriate on my part; I was thinking that, in such a small article about this person, detailed information about the name of an island he discovered should be put elsewhere.

Putting that aside, however, I can't find the name Flôr Formosa as the original name of the island (Bioko) in any of the references I have consulted; the original name they give is simply Formosa. Could you share the name of the reference work that gives Flôr Formosa? Thanks, S. Neuman 03:55, 29 August 2005 (UTC)


 * I believe you're right about the name. Formosa (Beautiful) seems to be the first name of the island and not Flôr Formosa (Beautiful Flower). It was not me who added that info in the first place. I just put the names back because I think Fernão do Pó is strictly connected with the names. Formosa was the name chosen by him and then the island was named Fernão do Pó after him. The only reference I can find is the Wikipedia article Equatorial Guinea but in a google search in Portuguese one can only find Formosa. I'm going to change both Fernão do Pó and Equatorial Guinea. Thanks for understanding. Gameiro 16:22, 29 August 2005 (UTC)

BioCOTW Project
You voted for  Pope Shenouda III of Alexandria, this weeks' Biography Collaboration of the weeks. Please come and help them become a featured-standard article.--Falphin 21:14, 6 September 2005 (UTC)

Vasco da Gama
Thanks for head's-up about this article. But if I manage get any time to work on the da Gama's it will be creating an article about one of his more famous sons -- Christopher da Gama, who led the Portuguese Expeditionary force that freed Ethiopia from Ahmad Gragn (circa 1541-1543). Most of the research is done: now I just to have write it. -- llywrch 18:21, 31 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep up the good work. I'm willing to read more about C. da Gama. Gameiro 03:03, 1 September 2005 (UTC)

Princesses of Brazil
Please explain how two princesses born in the Brazilian Imperial Family and who did not marry into the Portuguese royals are part of the Portuguese royalty. Don't let the family names deceive you. The Brazilian and the Portuguese Royal/Imperial families are not one and the same, having been separated since the abdication of Peter I &mdash; even though he reigned briefly as Peter IV of Portugal, this has no effect on the Brazilian Imperial family. No members of the Brazilian Imperial Family are considered to be "also" members of the Portuguese royals, unless they married into it (notable exception to Maria II da Glória, but that is a completely odd case), being that the House of Bragança was "split in two" by his abdication and the creation of the Brazilian Imperial Family, separate from the Portuguese House of Bragança reigning in Portugal (and Peter I's children, with the exception of Maria II da Glória, are part of the Brazilian royals, not the Portuguese, AFAIK). If you do not provide a valid reason, I will re-revert the articles again. Incidentally, please try to use edit summaries and talk pages to justify your reasons. It makes everybody else's lives much easier, and it prevents your edits from being mistaken for vandalism on occasion. Thanks, Redux 23:31, 25 November 2005 (UTC)


 * I think I can explain this situation with an example. For instance, Januária, Princess Imperial of Brazil was born into the Portuguese Royal family on March 11, 1822, so she belonged to the Portuguese family until September 7 of the same year, when her father Portuguese prince Peter declared the independence of Brazil. When he did so a new branch of the Braganza family was created, the Imperial Family of Brazil. When Peter I of Brazil inherited the throne of Portugal in 1926, his children became automatically members of the Portuguese Royal Family until his abdication. That's the reason for my edits. And sorry for the lack of summaries. Gameiro 23:53, 25 November 2005 (UTC)
 * That's what I was thinking about yesterday. Although Francisca, having been born in 1824, would not fit in this example.  I believe the key situation is the fact that Peter I only abdicated formally to the Throne of Portugal following his father's death, in 1826 (thus when both had already been born).  If we are to take into account the establishment of the Brazilian Imperial Family in 1822, however, then Francisca, born in 1824 (two years later), would never have been a member of the Portuguese Royal Family.  If Peter's abdication is to be taken into account, then we might say that both were once part of the Portuguese royals.  I still wonder if it would be correct to use boards and specific stubs for the Portuguese Royal Family in their articles, being that their "main" affiliation was, undoubtedly, to the Brazilian Imperial Family (at least until they married into the French and Italian royals).  Regards, Redux 16:27, 26 November 2005 (UTC)
 * I think we could stick to the Portuguese and Brazilian Royal Families together. After all although they were undoubtly members of the Brazilian Royal Family they were Princesses of Portugal also. I'm going to add the template for the Brazilian Royals by the way. Thanks for the clarifying. Gameiro 16:37, 26 November 2005 (UTC)

World Map with Football Confederations image
Good work with this map in the FIFA article - very illustrative and far superior to the original! Erath 14:28, 27 November 2005 (UTC)

Bioproject
Thanks for updating the page. I have unfortunately been extremely busy and the only edits I have been making are to Extraordinary Rendition on the talk. I hope I will have time but with my current health issues its doubtful. I'm appalled at myself for letting the BCOTW project go like this again. Thanks for updating though. Falphin 03:17, 1 December 2005 (UTC)
 * On the Portguese Insistnace, I really have no problem with it. Wheever support from the project comes the greatest it should be exploited. :) Have a good day. Falphin 23:46, 1 December 2005 (UTC)

Image Tagging Image:Pinheiro de Azevedo.jpg
Thanks for uploading Image:Pinheiro de Azevedo.jpg. I notice the image page currently doesn't specify who created the image, so the copyright status is therefore unclear. If you have not created the image yourself then you need to argue that we have the right to use the image on Wikipedia (see copyright tagging below). If you have not created the image yourself then you should also specify where you found it, i.e., in most cases link to the website where you got it, and the terms of use for content from that page.

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 * The same applies to Palma Carlos.jpg: images must have source information; just sticking a tag on asserting they are in the public domain isn't enough, as this can't be verified by other people. Cheers --Pak21 00:00, 16 December 2005 (UTC)

Image:Vasco Gonçalves.jpg
Hi, please add a source who can verify that this photo is public domain. Thuresson 23:27, 21 December 2005 (UTC)

Image:Nobre da Costa.gif
Hi, please add a source who can verify that this photo is public domain. Thuresson 23:45, 21 December 2005 (UTC)

Image:Mota Pinto.gif
Hi, please add a source who can verify that this photo is public domain. Thuresson 23:50, 21 December 2005 (UTC)

Image:Palma Carlos.jpg has been listed as a possibly unfree image
I am nominating this photo for deletion since you have been asked earlier to provide a source but has failed to do so. Thuresson 23:37, 21 December 2005 (UTC)

Map of participants of WWII
USA also entered after attack on Pearl Harbor.--Nixer 01:15, 22 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Sorry :-/--Nixer 01:23, 22 December 2005 (UTC)

Oops
Não sei "falar" nesta coisa. Já não mexo mais nas gaffes, pronto. Também não gosto do homem, por isso não me faz muita diferença. Só não pareçe coisa de enciclopédia.

Margaridas 00:53, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

Pictures
I am looking for good quality PHOTOS of the Portuguese presidents:

António Óscar de Fragoso Carmona, Francisco Higino Craveiro Lopes, Américo de Deus Rodrigues Tomás

I need them for adding to a portal www.archontology.org, where PORTUGAL is one of the sections. Unfortunately, the Internet is full of either PAINTED portraits, which I consider inferior to real photos, or bad quality pics. I hope you would agree that Portugal history is worth of wide exposure in the format of the Heads of State record and would appreciate any help. You may reach me at editor@archontology.org. Thanks.

IPA transcription for a Portuguese name
Hi Joaopais! In the German Wikipedia, a user has requested an IPA transcription of Maria das Graças Meneghel’s (de) nickname “Xuxa”. As you are a Portuguese native-speaker and have provided transcriptions of a couple of Portuguese names, I decided bothering you with that. The transcription I suggest is []. Is that correct or, if not, could you write a proper one? In case you have a few minutes, a transcription for Xuxa’s birth name would be neat. Thanks a lot in advance! Christopher ♒ 22:58, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

Reminder
Hi! Excuse me for addressing you again. You seem to have overlooked my request for help concerning the IPA transcription of Xuxa. Never mind! I’d be grateful for any early answer, even if it was that you cannot—for whatever reasons—help me with the transcription. Thank you! Christopher ♒ 13:33, 18 January 2006 (UTC)


 * Thank you! Christopher ♒ 18:56, 18 January 2006 (UTC)

Associação Naval 1º Maio and C.F. Estrela da Amadora
If you know about these clubs, could you please work with me together to expand these pages??

Pages to expand:

Associação Naval 1º Maio

C.F. Estrela da Amadora

Rakuten06 19:38, 6 January 2006 (UTC)


 * Thanks!! Could you help with searching for the nationalities of the players in the both of the clubs?? if you do, I'll appreciate it if you put it aside Players' name

Rakuten06 23:03, 8 January 2006 (UTC)

Another IPA request
Hi Joaopais, would you be gracious enough to supply an IPA pronunciation for Alijó? Thanks in advance! Kaldari 08:16, 8 January 2006 (UTC)

Zenha vs Veloso
Para evitar uma guerra de versões eu entendo que é melhor discutir o assunto contigo. Escrevi uma explicação na conversa do artigo, se quiseres lê. Continua o bom trabalho, um abraço! Afonso Silva 16:26, 11 January 2006 (UTC)

List of Prime Ministers of Portugal
In this edit, you have added that some "Prime Ministers before de Constitutional Monarchy". Where did you got that info, if you remember? It happens that it may not be accurate. --Bigs slb 10:24, 13 January 2006 (UTC)


 * Well, i'm not an expert in that, but i noticed some facts to say that "it may not be accurate".
 * In the portuguese wikipedia an anonymous has changed the info of the period "1750 - 1785" with this edit.
 * As you can see here (in portuguese) Aires de Sá e Melo and Luís da Cunha Manuel had the occupation of "Secretário de Estado dos Negócios da Guerra" (Secretary of State of the subject of the war, similar to the actual U.S. Secretary of defence) in the periods said as they were Prime Ministers (Secretário de Estado, Secretary of State, in that time, as said in the PT:WP). They could be in both charges, but can it be?
 * Said so what is true? This has to be investigated. (You can talk to me in portuguese, in the PT:WP, seeing the interwikis of my user page, but i used english here, 'cause we're in the EN:WP). --Bigs slb 17:43, 14 January 2006 (UTC)

Portuguese monarchs family tree
Regarding your comment in List of family trees, apparently, the article was deleted: Articles for deletion/Portuguese monarchs family tree. I don't know what condition it was in, but I certainly do not subscribe to the general position that family trees are not Wikipedia-worthy (I might be partial, though -- I made Image:Vasa.png myself). -- Jao 21:48, 18 January 2006 (UTC)

Image:Lisbon 16thcentury.jpg listed for deletion
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Image Tagging Image:Ramalho Eanes.jpg
Thanks for uploading Image:Ramalho Eanes.jpg. I notice the image page currently doesn't specify who created the image, so the copyright status is therefore unclear. If you have not created the image yourself then you need to argue that we have the right to use the image on Wikipedia (see copyright tagging below). If you have not created the image yourself then you should also specify where you found it, i.e., in most cases link to the website where you got it, and the terms of use for content from that page.

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