User talk:Joaquin Murietta

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Feliz Año Nuevo
Hello, Bandit. I hope you had a good New Year and holiday season. Thanks for the props on the Estela Ruiz article. I just rounded it out a bit more, adding notes like in your Teatro Campesino article. I hope you don't mind if I used the example--I am still just figuring those things out. I'd also like to add the footnotes into the Ricardo Cruz article, but I'm still struggling on how. I got a lot of the info from primary sources, info that makes up entire paragraphs. I'm thinking, maybe I should at least just cite references on the quotes?

And about the Teatro Campesino article. I've been wanting to start digging in the archives for more info (because there is a lot) to fill it out more, like on Carlos Almaraz and Comisión Femenil Mexicana Nacional, but they are closed, and I don't want to get in trouble. I hear LV is kinda touchy about people writing about him. So maybe we could just try to expand it from the Yolanda Broyles-Gonzalez book. She probably deserves an article of her own--I hear she is in Arizona now, maybe Antonio can get a photo?

So anyways, what do you think about the way the project is going? I think it is ok, but it seems to me to be highly focused on biographies, and not so big on objects, phenomena, and "bigger picture" type questions. I am also a little disappointed that we have left a lot of stubs floating around, but as an ongoing project, we still have time to fill them out. But other than those concerns, I think it is going pretty well. Was there any part of the Chicano Movement article in particular that you wanted to write?

I just wanted to touch base with you and ask you some of these questions. Espero que todo esté bien contigo. Sale, pues, Rockero 07:13, 5 January 2006 (UTC)

Feliz Día de Reyes


''' I would like to wish you a "Happy Dia de Reyes", a celebration that we still celebrate in Puerto Rico every January 6. The night before the children of the island fill a little box with grass for the kings camel and place it under the Christmas tree. When they wake up the following day, they find the box empty and gifts left by the kings Joaquin thanks for the Barnstar, you made my day, your friend Tony the Marine 06:20, 6 January 2006 (UTC)

Mexifornia
If I didn't take the bus every day, I don't know when I'd find the time to do my "pleasure" reading. Not that I don't derive pleasure from the reading I do for the project, but I take those reads a bit more seriously since I'll eventually be held responsible for any errors or faults in they articles that come from them. But I'm actually enjoying Mexifornia. It is a very critical look at illegal immigration, but it refrains from descending into the "invasionist" rhetoric that you see so much of on the ALIPAC, VDARE, and SOS websites (and in my opinion, makes them unpalatable). I also appreciate that its examination is nuanced enough to account for the complexity of the problems associated with illegal immigration. And it goes into pretty much all aspects of the debate--the political, economic, cultural, historic, educational, social, health issues, etc., which is one of the big reasons that I am fascinated by the debate--the issue is all-encompassing and provides windows into larger problems in American and global society.

It is written by a man named Victor Davis Hanson, a classics professor at CSU Fresno. He is a third-generation resident of the San Joaquín Valley (Selma, to be precise), and has been personally involved in agriculture and farm labor there. He has seen and been involved in the changes to his community, so the story he tells is personal. I appreciate his openness and the way it bridges the gap between author and subject, rather than the distance from which most academics. It is not a scholarly work, but there are scholarly aspects to it. I'm about halfway through, so I haven't formed a complete opinion yet. But I think everyone who is interested in the illegal immigration question should read it, regardless of which side of the fence they're on.--Rockero 17:54, 6 January 2006 (UTC)

Yo Joaquin!
Hey Joaquin! I just wnated to thank you for your friendship with my dad, and let you know Im involved in the election here as a candidate.

Well, Drop me a line! Thanks, and God bless you!

Your friend always, Antonio Latino Vaquero Mertin

E=mc2
Why did you put this link in the E=mc2 -article? Hogne 01:06, 15 January 2006 (UTC)

ArbCom
I want to thank everyone who took the time to vote on my ArbCom candidacy. I have placed some thoughts on this matter on my user page and would welcome your thoughts. --Edivorce 02:14, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

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Help
Here goes another anon who has no knowlege of how Wiki works and has posted a good article for deletion. It's about Norma Candal, please vote here: [] and help fight this injustice. Thank you Tony the Marine 04:52, 12 February 2006 (UTC)

Mex-Am/Chicano template
Hey Bandit, ¿Cómo está todo? I see you added the Userbox....nice!

I have been thinking about the template for our Chicano articles, and as I see it, it suffers from two problems:
 * 1) It competes for space on the right hand side of the article with images, and
 * 2) It often causes an article's page to be far longer than is necessary, creating a lot of blank space

These problems are just aesthetic, but they affect the quality of the articles composing the project.

My proposed solution is a footer to go at the end of each article. I copied and adapted it, but since I'm still a novice with these tables, etc., there is plenty of room for improvement.

Would you take a look at it and tell me what you think? It's at User:Rockero/Mex-Am-Chicano-Template.

BTW, my latest article, Mario Arturo Moreno Ivanova, is up for deletion. He is Cantinflas' son, and I wrote the article as part of the effort to get Cantinflas to FA status. Apparently, some editors don't think he's notable enough. Would you read it and see if you agree, and then vote accordingly? I think it's been mostly Anglos voting, so far.

Gracias, compa, y que te vaya bien.--Rockero 03:03, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

Thanks and USMC Portal info
Thanks for the barnstar. There is so much that needs to be done with the portal I don't even no where to start at times. What I am doing now is standardizing everything we have so far as far as layout and infoboxes are concerned, then move on to create articles for all generals and active units down to the Bn/Sqn level, then go after the deactivated units and then start working on units and HQs in Washington D.C. The big Daddy of them all though will be a "History of the USMC". After that will be MOH winners, also trying to update from www.usmc.mil for individual units when able, etc...... As you can see, everytime you clear one thing off the plate 3 more get created. Any help you can give is more than appreciated. Thanks again for the award. It may sound corny but it's a pretty good feeling to open a message and see one of them. Cheers--Looper5920 04:55, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

Changes in DYK updation process
Hi, thanks for your message on my talkpage. There have been some changes in the DYK updation process, as can be seen here. Sorry about that. However, I know and most other DYK aficionados know that you are a DYK hero, so the surprise in the form of the medal. --Gurubrahma 16:47, 16 March 2006 (UTC)



Hello again
Hello again Joaquin, long time no see. It's nice to hear from you as well :-) I am disappointed to hear that you consider my remarks were racist, because they were not, and that was never my intention, so I am sorry if they were able to be misconstrued. I am not a racist, but I was genuinely confused by the cryptic nature of your first messages to me and trying to establish some understanding. Well done for helping create WikiProject Mexican-Americans/Chicanos, but I really don't think I deserve any credit for spurring you on to do this.

As I said to you on many occasions in the past, I was merely trying to resolve the dispute that you seemed to have with Geo Swan. At the time I commended you for your contributions and the work you were doing in creating new articles. I am pleased to see that this has continued. I also made the observation that WP is a large enough place that we can all co-exist amicably and contribute in our own areas productively.

Bizarrely, it can also be a small world here: check out this link (I nearly choked on my porridge to find you in the history immediately preceding my addition of the image...) I have still never figured out your comment to me regarding Scottish fiddlers, perhaps you could enlighten me after all this time? I sincerely hope that this "coming together" of us 3 parties does not rekindle more negative disagreement which is long in the past. We have all been on "new pages" for some time.

Anyway, as I said to Geo, if you need any administrative assistance I would be delighted to help out, just let me know. Best wishes. -- Cactus.man  &#9997;  15:25, 17 March 2006 (UTC)

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Carolyn Wood
Hi Joaquin, how you been? I received your message and this is what I posted '''"*I would like to express my opinion and my sincere intentions are not to offend anyone (especially GeoSwan whom I consider a very talented editor) because I recognize the effort made in this article. I agree with JM's point of view in that this article does not meet the standards of a bio.  The article is supposed to be about the life of Carolyn Wood and not only about one part of her life.  The fact that it doesn't contain any information about her early life nor about what became of her after the trails, leads me to believe that there is a political agenda to it.  It is a well researched article and the sources stated seem to be reliable, however we must remember that there are many newspaper articles which are biased (with the exception of official records).  It seems to me that the research is focused only on the accusations against her and not on her life in general. Wheather the article sould be renamed or not, I don't know, however from my observations on this talk page and realizing that the topic is a little heated, I suggest that the topic be taken up with the arbitration committee. Just my two cents, Tony the Marine 16:08, 20 March 2006 (UTC)"'''. I hope that the issue does not become a war.  Anyway take care, Tony the Marine 16:08, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

DYK

 * Hello Joaquin, thanks for making the changes to this one, very nice. Congrats on making it to the main page! Johntex\talk 15:05, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

Chat
Joaquin, how you doing? If you are interested in having an arbritator look at the Carolyn Woods case, I would like to recommend two honest and open mined members of the Arb Comm. These are User:Mindspillage and User:Linuxbeak. Let them know about the situation and follow their recommendations. Your friend, Tony the Marine 04:09, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

Uriah Levy
Thanks for the star. ALways nice to log on to one of those. Just some notes on the Uriah Levy page. I saw you put it up to get looked at. My intitial thoughts were that some interesting topics were broached but not explained. What form did the anti-semitism take on? What/who were the causes of the 6 court martials? Any more info on his time as a POW? The intro mostly explains the great things he did during his military career but the body of the article concentrates on his civilian life and just touches on the wavetops of his military career. The two should marry up. If you really go digging in the navy archives you can find alot of junk. Just my thoughts I am sure other editors could be a lot more specific. Again, thanks for the barnstar.--Looper5920 07:29, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

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Re: Barnstar
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Bautista Rael
Nice. I did a quick copyedit and fixed the captions. I'm not sure if his name belongs on the list of notable Chicanos, though. A lot of NM Hispanos are descendents of Spanish and New Spanish settlers and therefore don't identify as Chicanos. That's why I put him in Category:Hispanic Americans as opposed to some other one. I was just thinking that I should add Spanish-Americans (another term NM Hispanos like to use) to the project page, since they make up such a big part of Chicano history. Of course if he has identified himself as a Chicano, then by all means leave him. Just a suggestion, --Rockero 00:51, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

Chicano template on Latino
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Carolyn Wood Request for Mediation
Hello Joaquin, yes I was aware of the RfM. I haven't had time yet to determine whether or not your request has enough merit to allow me to agree to mediation or not. However, I will post a decision either way before the 14 day limit expires. -- Cactus.man  &#9997;  20:35, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

Thx
Hey there bandit. Thanks for voting in my favor. If there's ever anything I can do to help, you know where to get me. Boycott May 1, --Rockero 00:18, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

Don Pedro Dimas
No, thank you for starting the article. I am not Tarascan. The reason I am interested in el maestro is because I got to meet him. I danced folklórico for seven or eight years, and one year, he and his group were playing a festival/workshop/conference I was at with my group. He has a booth where he was selling his music, so I went up to him and talked to him, telling him that I had heard about him and I loved the way the music sounds. When I asked him if he was Don Pedro Dimas, he answered, "A sus órdenes". It was amazing. The guest folklorico group was from Patzcuaro, too, and their maestro had written a pamphlet about the dance that I was able to get my hands on, but I couldn't afford a CD of the music 8(. It was still a really cool experience. ¿Boicot mañana?--Rockero 10:06, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

Juan Bautista Rael
Hello Joaquin. I just read your article on Rael, and wanted to just say "good article." My focus on wiki so far has been on Northern New Mexico, and I've noticed several good contributions from you. In the future, I hope you don't mind if I give you a heads up when I write a new one. Hasta la victoria siempre. . . Murcielago 20:16, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

Help! "Grito de Lares"
We now have somebody who wishes to change the name of The Grito de Lares to Lares Outcry. Please express your opinion here: Talk:Grito de Lares (The Cry of Lares). Thank you. Tony the Marine 00:14, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

De Nada
Also, in case you're interested, Padre Martinez and Manuel Armijo are up. I mention Padre Martinez because the "priest he drew into his orbit" was from Arroyo Hondo, Rael's hometown. - Murcielago 05:27, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

Historic "Chicanos"
Órale, JM. I was thinking there should be a list/category/template/something about proto-Chicanos, like your namesake Joaquin Murietta, Padre Martinez, Gregorio Cortez, Manuel Chaves, etc. If you go to the "Notable Hispanic" lists, it redirects to "Famous Hispanics", which in my opinion is a little different (is Padre Martinez famous at all outside of New Mexico?). Nevertheless, their rhetoric and actions have inspired Chicanos for over a century now. What are your thoughts? `` Murcielago 06:06, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

Hey Vato
...glad to see you're back. I think you're right about needing some new templates. We could use a little bit more organization. We definitely need to discuss some ideas. For one, there is the new Latino, which JuanMuslim really wants to implement. I think it would actually be better to have a more comprehensive template for all Latinos for the broad topics like African American topics sidebar. Then we could have more specialized templates like pre-Movement figures, movement figures, art figures, etc., or whatever we decide. With you away, it's just been me and the Bat holding it down, with a few small contributions from other users here and there. PAZ Bandit, --Rockero 06:54, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

Peralta
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Wikiproject name commentary
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Chicano Article, Line 17
Hey noticed you deleted the writing from ip 69.160.145.133 on line 17, it was back on there again, i removed it. The information doesn't seem very valid, it seems more like useless information. ChicanoJ 08:03, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

Requesting your opinion
I wrote the article Dr. Jose Celso Barbosa Post Office Building Designation Act, the first bill in history that contains an article from Wikipedia. It appeared on DYK and right away somebody "tags" it for deletion. I inviteyou to express yourself here:Articles for deletion/Dr. Jose Celso Barbosa Post Office Building Designation Act. Thank you Tony the Marine 16:18, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

1493
Spanish mission start? On a couple of the Mission pages, I believe that you are the original editor to write "Since 1493, the Kingdom of Spain had maintained a number of missions throughout Nueva España..." Isn't 1493 a very early date for this? BruceHallman 20:28, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

Historical Association/Temp
This replicated page has now been deleted. Regards, (aeropa gitica) 09:35, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

Carolyn Wood
See my reply on WP:BLPN. I didn't really see any violations, probably due to the work you have been doing there. "Keep it up" is all I can tell you. Crockspot 23:20, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

HMV
Hey Bandit, I just wanted you to have a look at the latest version of the Helena María Viramontes article. I think you may like it. Hope everything is cool with you. PAZ, --Rockero 21:43, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

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Joaquin
Que pasa? I thought that I would drop you a note to let you know that I've dedicated the last two weeks to writing the bios of every Mexican-American Medal of Honor recipient in the List of Hispanic Medal of Honor recipients. Take a look at these guys and feel the pride: David M. Gonzales, Alejandro R. Ruiz, Rodolfo P. Hernandez, Louis R. Rocco, plus much more. Tu hermano Boricua, Tony the Marine 19:46, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

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Latino stuff
Would you mind commenting on this?
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Que Pasa?
Where were you? Tell me what have you been doing? Well, brother it's good to see you back. Let's keep in touch. Tony the Marine 22:40, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

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Shalom Rav,

Y a-t-il eu à votre connaissance une proposition de créer une wikipédia en araméen talmudique, où seraient développés des sougyot, des halakhot, etc. ?

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Busy
Teaching, taking classes, and of course, community activism. I'm looking forward to some wiki time this summer though. Maybe even over spring break. Gusto en ver que sigues vivo. 8)--Rockero 21:25, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

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