User talk:Jobjeremiah

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Jobjeremiah, good luck, and have fun. Hoary (talk) 09:42, 30 November 2017 (UTC)

maxwellhalsted.uic.edu
Hello; you seem very keen to add links to maxwellhalsted.uic.edu. This seems a worthy little website in its way; and it doesn't seem to be selling anything. Despite these observations, adding links to a website willy-nilly is what Wikipedia regards as spamming.

As this says, repeatedly adding links will in most cases result in all of them being removed. And Wikipedia can go further: Putting maxwellhalsted.uic.edu on a blacklist, so that nobody can add (or even retain) any link to it, ever.

In order to regain other editors' good will toward both maxwellhalsted.uic.edu and yourself, I suggest that you go through your list of contributions, and for most of these contributions click "diff" and undo your addition of the link.

If you don't remove the links yourself, you can be sure that others will. -- Hoary (talk) 06:51, 27 November 2017 (UTC)


 * Because you didn't remove them, I removed them. Do not readd them. -- Hoary (talk) 22:41, 28 November 2017 (UTC)

Hello: I regret your decisions as editors for Wikipedia. I am a professor of history at the University of Illinois at Chicago. With the institution's support, including a series of Chicago and Illinois humanities foundations (see the Credits), I directed this website based on original library documents and special collections specifically for students to have access to primary sources and informed evidence based interpretations as an introduction to research.

The first place we send students is to Wikipedia for an introduction to a subject, and for them to have personal access to the original material on the Maxwell-Halsted website, and its historical significance, is what I believed Wikipedia's objective to be. "Spam" is an inappropriate designation failing to appreciate the comprehensiveness of this project. I have only made an effort to direct students on Wikipedia to areas on this large University of Illinois at Chicago website they would find useful in pursuit of their research and knowledge interests.

I respect your enthusiasm, but would ask you to reconsider your editorial judgments to delete links to subjects and areas of serious professional interest to students in humanistic studies. I would consider perhaps altering some of the links to your satisfaction but will not spend any more time with Wikipedia before hearing from you. Regards, Burton J. Bledstein Jobjeremiah (talk) 21:23, 29 November 2017 (UTC)


 * Thank you. No, spamming refers to the way the links are added. It does not imply that what's linked to is junk. (Sites so linked to often are junk. Your site is not junk.) Wikipedia's guide to the provision of external links is prolix but pretty clear. You say that you "made an effort to direct students on Wikipedia to areas on this large University of Illinois at Chicago website they would find useful in pursuit of their research and knowledge interests" but, as that guide says, efforts to direct readers to any particular website are unwanted.


 * I have never visited Chicago and though I've consumed a few books on it (most memorably Algren's Chicago: City on the Make and Wayne Miller's Chicago's South Side) I do not claim to know much about it. I don't claim to be able to evaluate your website. But let me be blunt: if the website is yours, you're not best qualified to evaluate it either. You suppose it's good, you hope it's good, it probably is good; you are welcome to suggest that Wikipedia editors make use of it. (A good place for such a suggestion would be Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Chicago, another would be Talk:West Side, Chicago. But I advise you not to advertise it in more than two places.) You should then step back and let these other editors use it or not use it.


 * You are also very welcome to help to improve Wikipedia's coverage of Chicago or anything else. (I generally avoid my own area of [moderate] expertise -- which I get quite enough of at work -- and edit elsewhere.) When you do so, cite reliable sources created by others. Notoriously, Wikipedia is edited by bored teenagers, nutters, and the simply unread. However, you'll soon realize that it's also edited by a lot of people with relevant doctorates. You're welcome to describe yourself and your qualifications on your "user page". (Here's possible inspiration.)


 * I hope you enjoy editing Wikipedia. -- Hoary (talk) 22:25, 30 November 2017 (UTC)