User talk:JocularJellyfish/Archives/2018/March

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Pic's to be added
Bill Wehrum https://www.epa.gov/aboutepa/about-assistant-administrator-epas-office-air-and-radiation - (I know this guy's pic is small and bad qualty)

Eddie Joe Williams http://www.sseb.org/members/board-members/ (Just go down when you see Federal Representative) - (I know this guy pic is copywrite. Plus I am in the middle of asking him if we can use his picture or if he can take his fed pic.)

So I you can try to add the Pictures here on down that would be nice. Dave Ross: https://www.epa.gov/aboutepa/about-assistant-administrator-epas-office-water

BROCK BIERMAN: https://www.usaid.gov/who-we-are/organization/brock-bierman

Lance Leggitt's picture. https://54.227.174.36/about/leadership/lance-leggitt/index.html

Susan Bodine: https://www.epa.gov/aboutepa/about-assistant-administrator-epas-office-enforcement-and-compliance-assurance

Neil Romano Picture https://ncd.gov/council_and_staff/ncd_council_members

Dr.Bertha Madras Picture. http://www.mcleanhospital.org/biography/bertha-madras

Dr. John Zangardi Picture https://www.dhs.gov/person/dr-john-zangardi

Mark A. Klaassen: https://www.justice.gov/usao-wy/meet-us-attorney

David J. Freed: https://www.justice.gov/usao/biographies/Freed

Richard W. Moore: https://www.justice.gov/usao/biographies/RichardMoore

Louis V. Franklin, Sr.: https://www.justice.gov/usao/biographies/Franklin

Peter E. Deegan, Jr.: https://www.justice.gov/usao/biographies/Deegan

Stephen R. McAllister: https://www.justice.gov/usao/biographies/McAllister

R. Andrew Murray: https://www.justice.gov/usao-wdnc/meet-us-attorney

Donald Q. Cochran: https://www.justice.gov/usao/biographies/Cochran

Erin Nealy Cox: https://www.justice.gov/usao-ndtx/meet-us-attorney

Bart M. Davis: https://www.justice.gov/usao-id/meet-us-attorney

That's all I can find. Thanks.96.36.68.29 (talk) 16:17, 5 March 2018 (UTC)


 * Would you consider creating your own account and uploading these pictures? I'm not versed in the file upload process. Anyway, nice work! – JocularJellyfish TalkContribs 18:46, 5 March 2018 (UTC)

Re: Scholer

 * As of right now (5:39PM EST) they just finished calling the roll but Senators aren't even in the chamber to vote. Yes, she'll be confirmed but it hasn't officially happened yet. You need to slow down.... Snickers2686 (talk) 22:40, 5 March 2018 (UTC)
 * As of 5:50PM her nomination has crossed the 60-vote majority threshold, so your edits will stand, but it doesn't hurt to hold off until the vote actually occurs. Snickers2686 (talk) 22:51, 5 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Acknowledged. – JocularJellyfish TalkContribs 23:00, 5 March 2018 (UTC)

Predictions section of election articles
Hello JocularJellyfish... I noticed that in Dec 2017 you created an election article with a section heading titled "predictions". There was no text under the empty heading. I'm an experienced wikipedian but new to election articles. The way the prediction section has been used in 2018 is odd and I have been unable to find examples from earlier elections. I reverted one such section on one such article, and an IP protested saying these sections are routine on election articles. Can you shed light? And in particular, can you point to any prior discussions or examples from earlier years? Thanks NewsAndEventsGuy (talk) 11:09, 6 March 2018 (UTC)


 * I was not aware of when this practice began as I only joined en.wiki in April of last year. When I created that article, I simply copy-pasted everything from another Senate election into that page and changed the state and the pertinent information. I personally think that the information is valuable to have but if you think that this is wrong, please take it up with a wikiproject to get project consensus. – JocularJellyfish TalkContribs 18:35, 6 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Yes, I noticed the copy paste as a template; No problem there, I do the same thing. I did start a thread at talk page for WP:NOTCYRSTALBALL.  Others seem to not have a problem with it. NewsAndEventsGuy (talk) 18:38, 6 March 2018 (UTC)
 * I added a comment to the discussion. – JocularJellyfish TalkContribs 18:40, 6 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Great, I'll look for it. I think we're done here.  Thanks for the constructive talk.  Caio NewsAndEventsGuy (talk) 18:44, 6 March 2018 (UTC)

FJC Bio
Hey, I'm just curious, how do you find the numerical value for a judge on the FJC Bio website? I've been trying to figure it out and it's driving me nuts. Any tips? Snickers2686 (talk)


 * Go to the FJC bio for the judge and then "inspect element" and search for this string: s. The NID will be a bunch of numbers and then you can add it to the template like this: . Hope this helps. – JocularJellyfish TalkContribs 04:28, 7 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Much appreciated! I tried it out on one article and it worked, now I can work on the MAJOR backlog of switching over the templates. Thanks again! Snickers2686 (talk) 04:40, 7 March 2018 (UTC)
 * No problem. Is there a list of backlogged articles? I can help. It would be nice to remove the old code from the template completely. – JocularJellyfish TalkContribs 04:42, 7 March 2018 (UTC)
 * No, there isn't a backlog list per se. Unfortunately, I think we just have to manually check each article one-by-one. My initial idea is to do it by appointing President starting with Obama and working my way backwards (Obama to Washington). I'm not sure who created the original template, but I agree, the change would be a big help if it could be implemented. Snickers2686 (talk) 04:47, 7 March 2018 (UTC)
 * I'll probably start with Washington and go down to Obama, and we can meet somewhere in the middle. – JocularJellyfish TalkContribs 04:49, 7 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Sounds like a plan! lol Or the other method is you could do it by court, i.e. circuit vs. district vs. Article I, etc. That's the only other option I see. In any event, with the two of us working on, hopefully they'll all be switched over in a few weeks or so. Snickers2686 (talk) 04:52, 7 March 2018 (UTC)

Re: Stephen Dillard Wikipedia profile
Thank you for cleaning up my Wikipedia page, which, until recently, was a bit dated. I noticed that you've identified my political party as 'Republican" in my profile. In Georgia, appellate judges run in nonpartisan elections and we are not affiliated with partisan political parties. See https://ballotpedia.org/Georgia_Court_of_Appeals If you would consider revising my profile to make that clear, I would certainly appreciate it. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sladillard (talk • contribs) 14:08, 7 March 2018 (UTC)


 * Judge Dillard, I've removed your party affiliation pending a accurate citation. – JocularJellyfish TalkContribs 16:01, 7 March 2018 (UTC)

Will this work? http://www.judicialselection.us/judicial_selection/methods/selection_of_judges.cfm?state=GA Thanks again. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sladillard (talk • contribs) 17:20, 7 March 2018 (UTC)


 * I didn't phrase that properly. If you go to your page, your political affiliation has already been removed by me. I don't need a citation to do that. Assuming there is some future source that lists your political affiliation, it may be added then. – JocularJellyfish TalkContribs 17:59, 7 March 2018 (UTC)

Ah. I understand. Thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sladillard (talk • contribs) 18:10, 7 March 2018 (UTC)

List of federal judges appointed by Jimmy Carter
I notice you undid my edits regarding the end of active service for judges appointed to the Fifth Circuit and transferred to the Eleventh. In my opinion, the table as reverted by you is incomplete/misleading. The column is headed "Ended active service". The judges didn't end active service, they were simply moved to a different circuit from the one to which they were appointed. This is a list of all federal judges appointed by Carter along with details of their service. Putting it the way you have does not correctly record the service of these judges by suggesting that they ceased active service on date which they did not. The not accompanying that is insufficient. Shadow007 (talk) 00:29, 12 March 2018 (UTC)


 * I disagree. Each of the appointees has a footnote indicating that they were reassigned to the Eleventh Circuit. A statute led to their appointment to the Eleventh; Carter was no longer president and thus he did not have any decision in the matter. – JocularJellyfish TalkContribs 00:32, 12 March 2018 (UTC)


 * That makes no sense. They were appointed by Carter and re-assigned, not re-appointed, by legislation. For the life of their service they owed their appointment to the federal judiciary to Carter, no-one else. Leaving aside arguments of logic, the list as it relates to Carter is inconsistent with other lists, e.g. Chester Arthur and James Garfield in relation to judges who were appointed to the United States circuit courts and had their appointments transferred by Congress to the United States Courts of Appeals. Those list correctly (in my opinion) list their active service by reference to when they finished service on the Courts of Appeals, not when the Circuit Courts were abolished. Shadow007 (talk) 00:47, 12 March 2018 (UTC)


 * I'll be completely honest with you. I don't know enough about this to further comment. I'll ping for their opinion on the matter, since they've been working on these list articles for a long time. – JocularJellyfish TalkContribs 00:52, 12 March 2018 (UTC)


 * No worries. I've only recently become interested in editing articles on this and related topics so very happy for other input and opinion. Thanks. Shadow007 (talk) 00:58, 12 March 2018 (UTC)


 * As I have long been doing it, the chart should reflect active (and senior if applicable) service on the court to which the person has been appointed. There should be a reference note in all cases where service changed due to operation of law. There are many examples of this. Board of appraisers to customs court to trade court. 5th to 11. 8th to 10th. And the many cases in which states were split into smaller districts or where a judge serving on multiple districts was reassigned to a single district. In all these cases, the main chart should reflect only the service on the original court to which appointed. Footnotes should be used to reflect reassignments due to operation of law. Safiel (talk) 01:20, 12 March 2018 (UTC)
 * In case you're not watching the page. – JocularJellyfish TalkContribs 01:21, 12 March 2018 (UTC)
 * It may have always been that way (although it clearly is not in respect of pages for Presidents in the era of the change from Circuit Courts to Courts of Appeals), but what is the reason for it? Shadow007 (talk) 01:43, 12 March 2018 (UTC)


 * Specifically to JJ I noted you fixed the issue on the Gerald Ford list, thanks. Safiel (talk) 01:22, 12 March 2018 (UTC)
 * No problem. – JocularJellyfish TalkContribs 01:23, 12 March 2018 (UTC)


 * Let me quote from FJC Bio (quotation is from the entry for Robert Smith Vance):


 * Federal Judicial Service:
 * Judge, U.S. Court of Appeals for the Fifth Circuit
 * Nominated by Jimmy Carter on November 4, 1977, to a seat vacated by Walter Pettus Gewin. Confirmed by the Senate on December 15, 1977, and received commission on December 15, 1977. Service terminated on October 1, 1981, due to reassignment.


 * Judge, U.S. Court of Appeals for the Eleventh Circuit
 * Reassigned on October 1, 1981, to a new seat authorized by 94 Stat. 1994. Service terminated on December 16, 1989, due to death.


 * Smith's service on the 5th Circuit legally terminated on the day he was reassigned to the 11th Circuit. The chart should reflect the date of his legal termination of service, since the chart gives his 5th Circuit service. He was serving in a legally distinct role (11th Circuit) starting October 1, 1981. The best way I have seen to handle this problem is to give the termination date as we currently do and use footnotes to indicate subsequent service. I should note that I am in the middle of a major cleanup of all the Presidential lists, changing them to reflect this usage. Safiel (talk) 03:35, 12 March 2018 (UTC)


 * Thanks. I still think it makes the lists somewhat less valuable to readers than they could be (e.g. it does not indicate easily from simply looking at the list whether a judge is or is not still on the federal judiciary - you have to go to each individual article page to check) but seeing as it follows terminology used by the most reliable source on the subject I am happy with that explanation even though I would not actually put the lists together in that way. I won't make any edits as I did on the Carter page. Shadow007 (talk) 06:47, 12 March 2018 (UTC)

Courtney Simmons Elwood
Thanks for your link to Courtney Simmons Elwood. I adjusted the format of her name on the List of law clerks of the Supreme Court of the United States to read Courtney Simmons (Elwood) to denote her married name. Not a satisfactory format, but done in an effort to know all the names.Bjhillis (talk) 21:08, 13 March 2018 (UTC)


 * Noted. – JocularJellyfish TalkContribs 21:42, 13 March 2018 (UTC)

PA 18
Please revert or black out your edits indicating that Conor Lamb is already a member of Congress. This is, at the very least, not *yet* accurate. The race has not been decided. And you do not become a member of Congress (and therefore you don't go on the seniority list) until you have actually been sworn in. People keep jumping this gun every single time there's a special election. Thanks. JTRH (talk) 12:49, 14 March 2018 (UTC)


 * I'll hide my edits pending the AP or the Board of Elections calling it (even though NBC already has). But I'm not sure about your assertion that you don't become a Member of Congress until you are sworn in. That may be true for people who were elected to new terms beginning on January 3, but for special elections their tenure begins the day of the election. – JocularJellyfish TalkContribs 12:52, 14 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks. They're separated by a couple of hundred votes and it's not clear whether there will be a recount. Under the Constitution, you are not a member until you take the oath of office, whenever that happens. Let's say you get elected on the 13th and sworn in on the 20th. You're not on the list until the 20th, but then your seniority date is retroactive to the 13th (day of election in the House and day after in the Senate). JTRH (talk) 13:04, 14 March 2018 (UTC)

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