User talk:Joeconnick

This is a good start. Are you planning to insert this contribution into the article on Wallace Wilkerson? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wallace_Wilkerson I suggest a couple of things. First, make clear at the start what you're writing about and why it's important. If it's the court case where execution was ruled constitutional then state that at the outset. As it's written, it could also Wallace Wilkerson that's important. I'd like to know more about why the case is important, what factors did the court use to decide that shooting someone was not cruel and unusual punishment, especially in light of the fact that the guy didn't die right away. What was the make up of the Supreme Court at the time? Why was the case eventually overturned? Did the case influence state laws elsewhere? The article could also use more citations, an outline, and maybe even some visuals like photographs or a chart showing how many times the case was cited in other court cases. I made a couple of grammar-related changed. You might spend some additional time proofreading the article - removing unnecessary words, writing in an active voice, and paying attention to capitalization and grammar. Mcassell04 (talk) 13:28, 15 October 2017 (UTC)

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Hi Joe,, the reason that you're seeing the old version tag come up is most likely because multiple people are trying to edit the page and aren't refreshing between saves. Also, do you have VisualEditor enabled? You can enable it by following the directions here.

In any case, I was curious - is this a new article or something that will be added to an existing one? It's an interesting topic! In any case, if it's a new article you may want to look at naming the case after the person who was killed or after the trial name (if available) rather than after the person who allegedly committed the crime (ie, Death of William Baxter or Murder of William Baxter), although this does depend on the amount of coverage. If most of the coverage is about the trial and the accused, then it would be fine to have the article under his name. I didn't know if you'd gotten that far in the planning process or not, so I wanted to ask about this.

Also, be careful of the word "fair trial" since that term is a little loaded, so to speak. It would likely be better to say something like "He was taken to trial on (insert date), where he was found not guilty of murder of the first degree." This gives a little more leeway. Also, I noted that the draft says that he was not guilty, but then says that he was sentenced to death by public execution, which is contradictory.

I'm interested in seeing how this draft develops - I love American history and I've worked on a few articles on murder trials. (Murder of Laurie Show,Murder of Karyn Hearn Slover) Shalor (Wiki Ed) (talk) 19:15, 5 October 2017 (UTC)

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This is pretty good - I made a slight tweak to the contributions at Wilkerson_v._Utah for flow, but this was well done. The main thing I want to point out is that I noticed that Wikipedia was used as a source in the article. Make sure to be more careful about this in the future, as Wikipedia cannot be used as a reliable source as it's something anyone can edit - meaning that it's a very dynamic source and it's pretty much impossible to give the site the type of editorial oversight and verification processes needed to make it one. (In other words, Wikipedia cannot even source itself.) I'm also tagging and. I also agree with your professor in that if any of this is missing in Wilkerson's article, you should look into adding it there so it's more complete. :) Shalor (Wiki Ed) (talk) 16:09, 27 October 2017 (UTC)