User talk:Joehanncsad2717

December 2009
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See also Appealing a block for more information. -- Orange Mike  &#x007C;   Talk  17:35, 21 December 2009 (UTC)

Deleted Article 'ALPINE BeMo Tunnelling'
I intended to write this on your talk page, but as I'm blocked, I wasn't able to.

'This page has been deleted. The deletion and move log for the page are provided below for reference. 17:34, 21 December 2009 Orangemike (talk | contribs) deleted "ALPINE BeMo Tunnelling" ‎ (G11: Unambiguous advertising or promotion)'

You were quite quick deleting the article I wrote on ALPINE BeMo Tunnelling (formerly 'Beton- und Monierbau'). You didn't give me much time and hardly any chance to correct anything you might think, was 'unambiguous advertising or promotion'. If you had a look on other construction companies, you might have seen, that those articles were very similar to the one I wrote.

Selfcriticism: Maybe the 'Activities'-Section was too much from your point of view? But: This could have been deleted instead of the whole article.

The company clearly fulfills one of the criteria for inclusion in Wikipedia with a revenue in 2008 of above 100 mio and will exceed this limit clearly in 2009! Yes, I am an employee of this company (COI), but writing this article I relied on the structure of other construction companies' articles here on wikipedia to write from a neutral point and relied on audited accounts and commercial register certificates. I like my job and my company and decided to spend my Sunday afternoon (!!!) to write an article on Wikipedia, because I thought, it was worth mentioning ALPINE BeMo Tunnelling here (>100 Mio revenue from tunnelling only!). As our name was changed recently (Dec 17), there are certainly few others who might be able to contribute to this article with current information.

Could you please explain explain your action. What can I do to re-include the article? What can I do to un-block my account? Thanks in advance Merry Christmas --joehanncsad2717 (talk) 01:31, 23 December 2009 (UTC)

Now that I had a look into some of the FAQs-Sections I am a bit wiser (perhaps)...

I am inexperienced in writing article on Wikipedia. Please help a noob :)

1. ALPINE BeMo Tunnelling (formerly 'Beton- und Monierbau' or 'BeMo' earlier even 'BuM' 'you may understand with the abbreviation 'BuM' was changed') is notable enough to deserve an article and was mentioned in may articles and books published by e.g. client we built tunnels and other underground structures for, tunnelling associations, tunnelling magazines (T&T, NCE, etc.)

Articles on 'BeMo' now 'ABT':

NCE magazine on Crossrail in London

Austrian newspaper on the purchase of BeMo by ALPINE

BeMo in BBMV JV

Article on Pfaendertunnel by ASFINAG (client)

and there are even more examples, if you want...

2. Independent Editor: Maybe I should request, that an independent editor creates an article like stated somewhere in the FAQs, but who? Could you forward the page to an editor or to me so that I can forward the article (no I have no copies - all my work is lost - nevertheless I'm not going to start to swear here using 4-letter-words) myself as soon as I have found an editor.

3. I just read about the 'requested article' and want to try it there as soon as I'm unlocked.

''1. On your user page, disclose your relationship to the organization. 2. Go to Wikipedia:Requested articles and find a category under which to list your request. 3. Describe the very basics of what your company is, no more than a couple of lines, and avoid puffery. Be up-front about your conflict of interest by mentioning it in the request. 4. Find at least two independent reliable sources that have substantial information about the topic, and provide links to them in the request. ...''

--joehanncsad2717 (talk) 01:31, 23 December 2009 (UTC)

I put a request for article in at Wikipedia:Requested articles/Business and Economics/Businesses and Organizations. That original, on the other hand, was still an advertisement. -- Orange Mike  &#x007C;   Talk  14:00, 23 December 2009 (UTC)

Thanks, btw: What are the next steps until I'm unblocked? --joehanncsad2717 (talk) 10:53, 25 December 2009 (UTC)